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cricket
01-19-15, 11:21 PM
I didn't like Beauty and the Beast nearly as much as I had hoped. I want to try it again.
Beauty and the Beast was my Number 7!
My favorite film of the Disney Rennasisance era, and I think it's a climax of the period that will never be achieved ever again, even through something very similar.
There is a timeless magic that makes the unbelievable love story of a beauty and a beast in to something more believable than reality. It is achievable by great writing and characters and a magical and enchanting atmosphere. I can't choose a scene where I wasn't blown away.
Speaking of characters one of the favorite parts of the movie may be the supporting guys. They are waaaay beyond comic relief and an excuse for musical numbers, in fact they drove the film to levels that the leading two would never create. Not only them, but everything works together to create one of my favorite animated films.
Most importantly, the film teaches a lesson about looks aren't everything, which always is a huge relief regardless of when I saw it, first time many years ago and even now. :D
Miss Vicky
01-20-15, 11:08 AM
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The Incredibles
(Brad Bird, 2004)
Rank: 11 / Score: 484 points
http://i.imgur.com/TLhM4Wp.jpg (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317705/) http://i.imgur.com/o7E6o1m.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incredibles)
Miss Vicky
01-20-15, 11:08 AM
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11. The Incredibles - Voting Stats
Total Points: 484
Part of a Numeric Tie? No.
34 Votes: 1st Place (25 pts.), 3rd Place (23 pts.), Three 4th Place (22 pts. each), Two 5th Place (21 pts. each), Two 6th Place (20 pts. each), Three 7th Place (19 pts. each), Four 9th Place (17 pts. each), 10th Place (16 pts.), 11th Place (15 pts.), Two 12th Place (14 pts. each), 13th Place (13 pts.), 14th Place (12 pts.), 15th Place (11 pts.), 16th Place (10 pts.), Two 17th Place (9 pts. each), Two 18th Place (8 pts. each), Two 20th Place (6 pts. each), 22nd Place (4 pts.), Two 23rd Place (3 pts. each), 24th Place (2 pts.)
Interesting. I would've thought this would be #6 or something. Don't mind it here, though.
Miss Vicky
01-20-15, 11:15 AM
Interesting. I would've thought this would be #6 or something. Don't mind it here, though.
Well it certainly wasn't lacking in points.
On that note, as we head into the top ten keep an eye on those point totals. They get really, really insane. (ETA: Apparently not quite as insane as the point totals for the top films in the 70s list, but for a list that so many people tried to dismiss as "too niche," it's pretty crazy.)
I didn't vote for The Incredibles, but I do love it. I'm sure most of its fans get a big kick out of the action scenes, but my favorite parts of the film are at the beginning where we see Mr. Incredible struggling to cope as an insurance agent. The interaction between him and his boss is hysterical. I also absolutely adore the scenes with Edna Mode, my favorite Incredibles character.
For Beauty and the Beast, I haven't seen it since childhood but I didn't care much for it back then so I've no real desire to revisit it.
I had Grave of the Fireflies at number NINE overall, and The Nightmare Before Christmas at number TWENTY-FOUR overall.
I have never seen Beauty and the Beast! (I know, I know...)
I had The Incredibles at number EIGHTEEN overall.
Holden Pike
01-20-15, 12:02 PM
I had The Incredibles as my number sixteen pick, and I kinda expected it to be top five material on the group list, but eleven is certainly more than respectable. Chalk it up to too many great PIXARs to choose from, I reckon. That makes nineteen of mine. All I wanna know, now, is WHERE IS MY SUPER-SUIT?!?
1. Waltz with Bashir (#26)
2. Fantastic Mr. Fox (#17)
3. beyond improbable
4. The Wrong Trousers (#35)
5. A Town Called Panic (#76)
6. The Lego Movie (#32)
7. The Illusionist (#60)
8. Alice in Wonderland (#33)
9. Persepolis (#28)
10 Akira (#29)
11. not a fu*kin' prayer
12. Coraline (#36)
13. Animal Farm (#89)
14. abs-oh-frickin'-loot-lee
15. Yellow Submarine (#62)
16. The Incredibles (#11)
17. t'would appear not
18. shamefully, not gonna make it
19. Watership Down (#75)
20. Waking Life (#41)
21. South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut (#25)
22. How to Train Your Dragon (#19)
23. Sleeping Beauty (#54)
24. "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" (#42)
25. Hugo the Hippo (DNP)
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gbgoodies
01-20-15, 01:15 PM
I love The Incredibles, but it didn't make my list because I tried to keep my Disney and Pixar picks to a minimum, and there are a couple of Pixar movies that I love even more.
On the surface, it kind of felt like a ripoff of The Fantastic Four, but better. My favorite character is Edna "No Capes!" Mode. I even have a little plastic figure of her on my desk.
I'm glad to see that it made it this high on the list without my help.
MovieMeditation
01-20-15, 01:37 PM
The Incredibles is great, but the way it handles its message comes up a bit short beside other Pixar outings.
Nevertheless I love to throw it in the Blu-ray player, and it's solid entertainment material mosr defiantly... Didn't have it on my list though.
The Incredibles is my #1. I'll just quote my mafo MoFo Top 100.
The Incredibles (Brad Bird, 2004)
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I love everything about this movie. I realize that, first off, most people think of it as just a Pixar film or an animated film or a super hero film, but I think those tags for it miss the point of what I believe the film to be. It certainly tells a good story, not only in the context of a "family film" or the greatest James Bond film never made, but also in its overall creative presentation. The Incredibles displays sparkling wit and invention on almost every level: character animation, vocal expression, art direction/set design, the yummy musical score which sounds like it's from a '60s spy movie, only much cooler, and the use of both old-style "newsreels" and modern technology to make the plot more-complex and put the entire thing into larger satirical focus. This doesn't even mention the incredibly fast pace of both the editing and the verbal/visual humor.
A normal movie about super heroes wouldn't dig this deep into all the hassles inherent in being a super hero inside when the world won't allow you to express it on the outside. It also presents a family dynamic which is realistic in that it is so full of contradictions. The males in the Incredible family really want to express their super powers, while mom (Holly Hunter) knows it's better for the family (in more ways than one) to stifle them, just as the legal system and government have deemed necessary. The daughter is at the age where she's getting interested in boys but is very shy about this normal process and is able to use her power to help her get through it. The son just wants to be able to show off in sports once in awhile. The baby, well, we don't know about the baby...
Before I start sounding too serious and pompous about what I consider one of the most exhilaratingly FUN movies ever made, let me mention the "Incredible" supporting characters. Mr. Incredible's (Craig T. Nelson's) best friend Frozone (Samuel L. Jackson) is one bad mutha, Jason Lee is a riot as a science/tech geek who wants to be Mr. Incredible's sidekick, and perhaps best of all, director/screenwriter Brad Bird plays Edna E. Mode, the costime designer to the super heroes, as a sort of cross between Edith Head and Linda Hunt.
All the gibberish above can just be ignored if you like, while I cut to the heart and soul of how I feel when watching The Incredibles. I feel like the giddy kid I was in the 1960s who fell in love with movies and cartoons. The main difference today is that I can love this film because it reminds me of so many other terrific films which are a part of me, yet it feels newer and more intense than almost all of them. Another thing I think about when I'm watching this movie is that it's a great FILM. I certainly don't think I'm watching a cartoon because these characters are real to me. I'm just glad that the technology is available so that a film classicist of the stature of Brad Bird can share this story with all of us.
hello101
01-20-15, 03:01 PM
I'm sure I had The Incredibles on my list, it's a great film and beats out most live action superhero movies.
Mr. Incredible is an awesome character.
Cobpyth
01-20-15, 03:29 PM
The Incredibles was number 17 on my list. It's my second favorite Pixar film and probably my all time favorite superhero film. The reason for that is probably (besides all the other qualities of the film of course) that '60s feeling Mark describes in his Mafo post. The Incredibles gives the sensation of old-fashioned fun with some satirical cleverness between the lines.
I saw this film in the theater when it came out as a 10 year old boy and I still love it just as much as a 21 year old!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZUHlrir4Og
Miss Vicky
01-20-15, 05:26 PM
I'm sure I had The Incredibles on my list, it's a great film and beats out most live action superhero movies.
Mr. Incredible is an awesome character.
You had it at #10.
The Incredibles was my #12. It's the only film i really regret not rewatching for the list, watching it drop from 5 to 12 while compiling my list was sad, not having watched it in about 3-4 years makes it difficult to add anything but when i first watched it was top 10. Basically add a year to Cobpyths last sentence and that was me :cool: (still 21 though) .
Beauty and the Beast is another family favourite that i really liked when i was younger, but have no idea how i'd feel about it now.
Watched - 63/90
My List - 12/25
2.Fantastic Mr.Fox
6.Waltz With Bashir
7.Persepolis
8.The Wrong Trousers
11.Duck Amuck
12.The Incredibles
14.South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut
16.Allegro No Troppo - Bolero
19.Howls Moving Castle
20.Pinocchio
22.Watership Down
25.Millenium Actress
Top 10 guess:
1.Up
2.Wall-E
3.Toy Story
4.Spirited Away
5.The Lion King
6.Monster Inc
7.Toy Story 3
8.Princess Mononoke
9.Ratatouille
10.Finding Nemo
Wait until Nemo isn't 10 tomorrow to tell me i'm wrong this time MV :p .
Miss Vicky
01-20-15, 06:04 PM
Top 10 guess:
1.Up
2.Wall-E
3.Toy Story
4.Spirited Away
5.The Lion King
6.Monster Inc
7.Toy Story 3
8.Princess Mononoke
9.Ratatouille
10.Finding Nemo
Wait until Nemo isn't 10 tomorrow to tell me i'm wrong this time MV :p .
Well those are the top ten, I won't say if you got them in the right order though.
Anybody else want to take a crack at the order?
The Gunslinger45
01-20-15, 09:01 PM
Did not vote for it, but I should have. Shocked it was not in the top 10.
Daniel M
01-20-15, 09:19 PM
I like The Incredibles a lot, I thought it was very good when I watched it, but it's been a while.
Sexy Celebrity
01-20-15, 09:26 PM
I had The Incredibles at #17.
MY LIST:
1. Alice in Wonderland (1951)
2. Sleeping Beauty (1959)
3. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
4. The Little Mermaid (1989)
5. A Scanner Darkly (2006)
6. Yellow Submarine (1968)
7. not gonna make it
8. All Dogs Go To Heaven (1989)
9. 101 Dalmatians (1961)
10. The Jungle Book (1967)
11. Beauty and the Beast (1991)
12. will make it
13. Lady and the Tramp (1955)
14. Fantasia (1940)
15. will make it
16. South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut (1999)
17. The Incredibles (2004)
18. Kiki's Delivery Service (1989)
19. not gonna make it
20. Wreck It Ralph (2012)
21. Pinocchio (1940)
22. Waltz with Bashir (2008)
23. Toy Story 2 (1999)
24. Bambi (1942)
25. Grace (1986) - one pointer
Damn. Only three from my list won't make it. One was a one pointer.
cricket
01-20-15, 10:03 PM
I might not have even participated in this countdown if it wasn't for The Incredibles. It was about a year ago when I decided to watch everything I hadn't seen in Mark's top 10. I had zero interest in animation and it had been many years since I had seen one. I hesitantly watched The Incredibles, and it showed me that animation could still be awesome at my age. I had it at #12.
My list-
3. Rango
4. How to Train Your Dragon
5. Persepolis
6. Grave of the Fireflies
7. Animal Farm
8. Wreck-It Ralph
9. Fantastic Mr. Fox
10. Waltz with Bashir
11. The Plague Dogs
12. The Incredibles
13. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
14. Mary and Max
16. The Wind Rises
17. Pinocchio
18. Charlotte's Web
19. Kung Fu Panda
20. A Town Called Panic
21. Fantastic Planet
24. The Adventures of Prince Achmed (Near miss)
25. How the Grinch Stole Christmas
The Incredibles was my Number 9.
Now, this is a proper superhero movie. Fast pacing, amazing action scenes even for a movie that's rated the safe PG, and a great story. I really liked that Pixar wasn't afraid of having adult violence in it. As Pixar always is, it was new and daring, and pulled it off to be successful and influence many others, such as Rango, another animated film which I love for the same reason.
rauldc14
01-20-15, 11:23 PM
My top 10 prediction
1. Up
2. Toy Story
3. Spirited Away
4. Wall E
5. Toy Story 3
6. Finding Nemo
7. Ratatouille
8. Princess Mononoke
9. Lion King
10. Monsters Inc.
I didn't know there were so many Monsters Inc. fans. So at this rate it will probably be something like 5.
Thursday Next
01-21-15, 06:03 AM
Beauty and the Beast is the best thing Disney have ever done. Beautiful animation of one of my favourite fairy tales.
I've seen The Incredibles a couple of times, and while there are good aspects, I've never really felt that it was, well, incredible, the way most other people seem to.
Holden Pike
01-21-15, 08:51 AM
Well those are the top ten, I won't say if you got them in the right order, though. Anybody else want to take a crack at the order?
Oh, what they hey...
1. Up
2. Finding Nemo
3. WALL·E
4. The Lion King
5. Toy Story 3
6. Spirited Away
7. Ratatouille
8. Toy Story
9. Monsters, Inc.
10. Princess Mononoke
TheUsualSuspect
01-21-15, 08:57 AM
The Incredibles was one of the first 'date' movies Michelle and I watched.
Miss Vicky
01-21-15, 11:06 AM
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Toy Story 3
(Lee Unkrich, 2010)
Rank: 10 / Score: 489 points
http://i.imgur.com/TLhM4Wp.jpg (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0435761/) http://i.imgur.com/o7E6o1m.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_Story_3)
Miss Vicky
01-21-15, 11:06 AM
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10. Toy Story 3 - Voting Stats
Total Points: 489
Part of a Numeric Tie? No.
33 Votes: Two 1st Place (25 pts. each) 2nd Place (24 pts.), Two 3rd Place (23 pts. each), Three 4th Place (22 pts. each), Four 5th Place (21 pts. each), Two 7th Place (19 pts. each), 8th Place (18 pts.), 9th Place (17 pts.), 10th Place (16 pts.), Three 12th Place (14 pts. each), Two 14th Place (12 pts. each), 15th Place (11 pts.), 16th Place (10 pts.), 17th Place (9 pts.), 19th Place (7 pts.), 20th Place (6 pts.), Two 21st Place (5 pts. each), 22nd Place (4 pts.), 23rd Place (3 pts.), Two 24th Place (2 pts. each)
Miss Vicky
01-21-15, 11:13 AM
If I had voted for any of the Toy Story movies, this would've been the one to make my ballot. The animation is far superior to the original and I found myself far more engaged with the story of Toy Story 3 than in either of its predecessors.
TheUsualSuspect
01-21-15, 11:16 AM
Well...almost 20 years later, I would hope the animation is superior.
Miss Vicky
01-21-15, 11:18 AM
Well...almost 20 years later, I would hope the animation is superior.
Yes, but some of the animation in the original film is downright bad. Sid's dog in particular was not well done at all and it bugs the **** out of me every time I watch it. Slinky makes a more convincing dog than that thing.
MovieMeditation
01-21-15, 11:21 AM
Toy Story 3 was #24 on my list. I love the entire trilogy, but I felt that the nostalgia really took this one home, expect for the amazing third act. Everything was just good, but nothing that amazing. But again all 3 films are great fun and I love them all.
I really should sit down and watch a Toy Story movie sometime... :D
Cobpyth
01-21-15, 12:17 PM
Toy Story 3 is my favorite part of the trilogy. I even consider it as one of my favorite films of all time. It works on every level. This is what I wrote about it in my Top 101 thread:
*SPOILER ALERT*
http://brianorndorf.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ee7b64288330134849a8b32970c-500wi
Pixar made some of the best American animated movies of all time during the 1995-2010 era and I bet everyone has his/her personal favorite one. Toy Story 3 is mine.
This film manages to be wildly entertaining and is full of great comedy and exciting plotlines, while still maintaining a certain overarching depth to the story that's being told.
The whole trilogy is one of the best and most original stories about the transience of existence, in my opinion, but this last entry tackles the topic in the darkest and most profound manner in the form of its villain, Lotso.
Lotso gets confronted with the reality of his own transience and uses the 'unfairness' of his fate as an excuse to act immoral. If anything (including himself) ends, morality is simply an illusion anyway. On that immoral basis and with the power that attitude offers him, he decides to pick out a few fellow toys with whom he then founds a cruel and terrorizing reign over a fragile community (in this case the toys of the Day Care).
I love it!
This film is very clever and has a lot of interesting stuff going on for kids and adults alike. It's truly one of the best family pictures I've ever seen. It's also full of inventive filmmaking and great visuals. It's a magnificent film and I still like it as much as the first time I watched it in the cinema.
P.S. I cried at the end.
It was number 4 on my list!
The Rodent
01-21-15, 12:20 PM
3 is definitely the best of the TS films.
Didn't make my list though.
Daniel M
01-21-15, 12:26 PM
A very good film, I didn't vote for it though.
Thursday Next
01-21-15, 12:30 PM
I watched Toy Story 3 just last week and cried pretty much the whole way through. You may consider that the mark of a good film, I'm not sure. I feel like everything possible is done to tug on the heartstrings. From the way the song from the first film cuts out and we see the toys haven't been played with to the end where... well, spoiler alert, but the end, anyway. It's actually a really dark film. The Alien 3 of the Toy Story franchise. I can't help thinking that the toys in this film are actually a metaphor for parents, unwanted once their kid grows up and leaves for college, and it's pretty heartbreaking.
Toy Story 3 was one of the best films of its year - a very good film - but it didn't make my list. :)
BlueLion
01-21-15, 03:02 PM
The weakest Toy Story movie imo.
gbgoodies
01-21-15, 03:05 PM
I like all three Toy Story movies, but none of them made my list.
rauldc14
01-21-15, 04:07 PM
6 of the last 9 films to appear are in the top 10 of the list I submitted! Sweetness!
honeykid
01-21-15, 05:11 PM
I really should sit down and watch a Toy Story movie sometime... :D
You're not missing anything. I'd skip it.
Cobpyth
01-21-15, 05:12 PM
You're not missing anything. I'd skip it.
Now he's certainly going to watch them. :p
Miss Vicky
01-21-15, 05:14 PM
The Toy Story movies are all good, but I don't think they're nearly as good as people make them out to be. I think nostalgia plays a huge factor in their popularity and also the fact that Toy Story was Pixar's first feature (but far from their best).
I think nostalgia plays a huge factor in their popularity
Well, that's certainly the case for the third film. I don't think it would have been nearly as well-received had it not been for the first two films.
honeykid
01-21-15, 05:41 PM
Now he's certainly going to watch them. :p
True, but I'm still right. :D
Friendly Mushroom!
01-21-15, 06:43 PM
True, but I'm still right. :D
:nope:
gbgoodies
01-21-15, 06:55 PM
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Sexy Celebrity
01-21-15, 10:24 PM
Unless Andy's mom is Miss Vicky. Then they're named Joaquin and Tom.
Sexy Celebrity
01-21-15, 10:28 PM
I also cannot believe it was gbgoodies who posted that picture. But then -- that's probably why I nominated her for "Funniest MoFo."
Miss Vicky
01-21-15, 10:30 PM
Unless Andy's mom is Miss Vicky. Then they're named Joaquin and Tom.
Tom who? :confused:
Sexy Celebrity
01-21-15, 10:31 PM
Tom who? :confused:
Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot you broke up with Tom (or, actually, I should say -- Tom broke.)
The new one is called Lindsey, right?
Miss Vicky
01-21-15, 10:34 PM
If you're talking about Petty I've always loved his music but never found him at all attractive.
Sexy Celebrity
01-21-15, 10:38 PM
If you're talking about Petty I've always loved his music but never found him at all attractive.
Well, at least when he's a toy, you don't have a face attached to it, anyway.
Miss Vicky
01-22-15, 11:11 AM
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Mononoke-hime
(Princess Mononoke)
(Hayao Miyazaki, 1997)
Rank: 9 / Score: 502 points
http://i.imgur.com/TLhM4Wp.jpg (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119698/) http://i.imgur.com/o7E6o1m.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Mononoke)
Miss Vicky
01-22-15, 11:12 AM
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9. Princess Mononoke - Voting Stats
Total Points: 502
Part of a Numeric Tie? No.
29 Votes: 1st Place (25 pts.), Seven 2nd Place (24 pts. each), 3rd Place (23 pts.), Two 4th Place (22 pts. each), 5th Place (21 pts.), 6th Place (20 pts.), Two 7th Place (19 pts. each), 8th Place (18 pts.), 9th Place (17 pts.), Two 10th Place (16 pts. each), 13th Place (13 pts.), Three 14th Place (12 pts. each), Two 15th Place (11 pts. each), 17th Place (9 pts.), 19th Place (7 pts.), 21st Place (5 pts.), 22nd Place (4 pts.)
MovieMeditation
01-22-15, 12:00 PM
Hmm, lower than I expected. Anyways I did not vote for it but it is quite spectacular. I'm sure I would like it even more on multiple viewings. It's one of the first animated films that I've watched which almost felt like a big epic. Probably Mayazaki magnum opus.
Arcanis
01-22-15, 12:31 PM
Aladdin is another favorite of mine, although actually my least favorite of the Disney Renaissance's big 4 films. It would have been enough to just lot Robin Williams' riffing do all of the heavy lifting for this film, but the story and full cast of characters are all exceptionally good in their own right and Williams is only part of ehat makes the film so great.
The Nightmare Before Christmas is one that I have always liked, but am appreciating more and more as time goes on. It's quirky without making that its defining trait and dark without losing sight of Christmas' levity. I always watch this around Thanksgiving, splitting the difference between Halloween and Christmas.
Beauty and the Beast is my personal favorite of the Disney Renaissance (something thatI take a lot of heat for saying in my circles, given the existence of The Lion King). It is brilliantly animated, well written and has a staggeringly high quality collection of songs to move its story along.
The Incredibles is easily one of Pixars best, although I actually am surprised to see it ranked so highly. I didn't think that it had quite the same level of aupport that others in their filmography have.
Toy Story 3 was a fantastic conclusion to its series (the forthcoming fourth installment not withstanding). It forced every other character to go through what Woody did in the previous movie, which shockingly did not come off as a retread.
Princess Mononoke is the movie that got me into anime. It is breathtakingly visual and riddled with intelligent characters and plot. It's probably my second favorite Miyazaki, behind Howl's Moving Castle.
Harry Lime
01-22-15, 01:09 PM
So 7 of the top 10 are Pixar, eh?
Miss Vicky
01-22-15, 01:20 PM
So 7 of the top 10 are Pixar, eh?
Does that surprise you?
Harry Lime
01-22-15, 01:46 PM
A little. Not sure.
More like it disappoints me.
Erasmus Folly
01-22-15, 01:59 PM
I really should sit down and watch a Toy Story movie sometime... :D
Yes you should. :)
Erasmus Folly
01-22-15, 02:05 PM
The Toy Story movies are all good, but I don't think they're nearly as good as people make them out to be. I think nostalgia plays a huge factor in their popularity and also the fact that Toy Story was Pixar's first feature (but far from their best).
Be careful, some day there will come a time when you feel nostalgic for Joaquin. :)
Daniel M
01-22-15, 02:06 PM
Princess Mononoke was my number 17, great action film.
Miss Vicky
01-22-15, 02:23 PM
Be careful, some day there will come a time when you feel nostalgic for Joaquin. :)
Um, okay.
linespalsy
01-22-15, 02:38 PM
Well, now that my one Miyazaki nominee (it was my no. 14) has made it, the only other of my picks that I expect to make it is my one Pixar film.
Does that surprise you?
Certainly not surprised, per se...but since I only like a couple of Pixar flicks, it is kind of disappointing...
rauldc14
01-22-15, 03:36 PM
Oh no, the art house mafia is disappointed in Pixar's showing here. Well, actually I don't think Lime and Sedai are a part of that. Anyways, 6 or the top 8 are VERY high on my list.
Miss Vicky
01-22-15, 03:41 PM
Certainly not surprised, per se...but since I only like a couple of Pixar flicks, it is kind of disappointing...
Well there are only a couple of Pixar flicks that I don't like.
honeykid
01-22-15, 03:46 PM
I'm going to miss coming in here, repping MV for her work and then leaving because the films are crap. :D....
... After Monster's Inc shows up, of course.
rauldc14
01-22-15, 03:50 PM
A new (and wrong) prediction
1. Up
2. Toy Story
3. Spirited Away
4. Wall E
5. Finding Nemo
6. Ratatouille
7. Monsters Inc.
8. Lion King
Miss Vicky
01-22-15, 03:54 PM
A new (and wrong) prediction
1. Up
2. Toy Story
3. Spirited Away
4. Wall E
5. Finding Nemo
6. Ratatouille
7. Monsters Inc.
8. Lion King
Well you're right about being wrong. Although three of those are in the correct positions.
Sexy Celebrity
01-22-15, 04:03 PM
Up is #1. Toy Story is #2.
rauldc14
01-22-15, 04:06 PM
I feel a 60s thread coming.
Sexy Celebrity
01-22-15, 04:07 PM
I feel a 60s thread coming.
Oh! You mean you don't want to postpone it to do something like a DOCUMENTARIES countdown???
Daniel M
01-22-15, 04:15 PM
I feel a 60s thread coming.
Once this thread is done, I have some stuff ready to go :cool:
I hate you people :bea: . Oh well i'll let you away with it this time since it made the top 10 at least :p . My favourite Animated film, such a beautiful, exciting film that is stunningly Animated and features one of my favourite Movie Soundtracks. I actually may rewatch it soon since i haven't seen it in six months or so. Pretty surprised that i was the only one to have it at #1.
As i said earlier Toy Story 2 and 3 probably would've made my list if i hadn't included shorts. Not sure which one i prefer, but Hugs- Alot is my fav Villian of the series and using the big baby as an Enforcer was genius :D .
Final Prediction:
1.Up
2.Toy Story
3.Wall-E
4.Spirited Away
5.Lion King
6.Ratatouille
7.Monsters Inc
8.Finding Nemo
Friendly Mushroom!
01-22-15, 04:50 PM
Once this thread is done, I have some stuff ready to go :cool:
Can the voting for that start on the same day the top two are revealed and have the due date for the votes be April-ish?
Friendly Mushroom!
01-22-15, 04:59 PM
Damn. My dream of Mononoke and Spirited Away being the top two has been shattered! :tsk::tsk::tsk::furious::furiousdevil::eek:
Mononoke was two for me.
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I LOVE THE BLOOD!!!!
But why can't I find a good GIF that shows it!? Then again, I didn't search for that long. If someone can find a GIF that is super bloody from Mononoke. Please post it.
Friendly Mushroom!
01-22-15, 05:03 PM
Well, let's just hope Spirited Away is one.
Please, Please!
Daniel M
01-22-15, 05:17 PM
Can the voting for that start on the same day the top two are revealed and have the due date for the votes be April-ish?
Something like that, yeah. I think we had four months to prepare for this one. So it'll probably be about May/June time that voting will close :)
Thursday Next
01-22-15, 05:55 PM
I think I need to rewatch Princess Mononoke. I didn't love it the first time round, but it seems like it might deserve a second chance.
The Nightmare Before Christmas (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1239828#post1239828) out of top 10???
That's just sad!
Sexy Celebrity
01-22-15, 06:11 PM
Princess Mononoke?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbHwbgIELCc
For old time's sake.
Arcanis
01-22-15, 06:38 PM
So 7 of the top 10 are Pixar, eh?
I'm okay with those numbers.
:D
Harry Lime
01-22-15, 07:00 PM
WALL-E is Pixar's best. The rest of you are wrong, as usual.
WALL-E is Pixar's best. The rest of you are wrong, as usual.
Absolutely.
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Toy Story 3 was my Number 4.
A lot of people claim that the third one is the weakest. Really? By having an interesting setting, darker elements, and being action-packed I thought it packed a strong punch, but I can kind of get why this is also a reason for seemingly being the weakest. No matter what though, I'm still in the former.
About the controversial end of the film, I semi-cried, I would have burst into tears if the impact was a little stronger. Probably the only problem I have with the entire film.
Princess Mononoke was my Number 13.
A beautiful combination between traditional animation and computer animation, you don't say that very often, nor do you see it being executed well. Another animated action movie which is a genre I adore, never afraid of violence and gore (Princess Mononoke isn't even PG, and that makes it even more badass). Despite all the goodies I had it kind of low because of the bloated story and obvious message.
Miss Vicky
01-22-15, 07:44 PM
WALL-E is Pixar's best. The rest of you are wrong, as usual.
Fantastic movie, but Pixar's best? :laugh: No.
Harry Lime
01-22-15, 08:28 PM
Uh, yes it is.
Miss Vicky
01-22-15, 08:31 PM
Uh, yes it is.
I rank it third best. You'll have to wait and see how the popular vote ranked it.
Daniel M
01-22-15, 08:35 PM
Third best when the other two are in your top four, then someone else thinks it's their best, doesn't seem too odd to me :shrug:
Harry Lime
01-23-15, 12:23 AM
then someone else thinks it's their besthttp://www.movieforums.com/community/images/smilies/shrug.gif.pagespeed.ce.Vk4Ke_Z9_c.gif
If you're implying that I think that it's my best then you're wrong. It is the best. I have a mathematical equation that can prove it but I really shouldn't have to at this point.
Miss Vicky
01-23-15, 11:05 AM
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Ratatouille
(Brad Bird and Jan Pinkava, 2007)
Rank: 8 / Score: 526 points
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Miss Vicky
01-23-15, 11:05 AM
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8. Ratatouille - Voting Stats
Total Points: 526
Part of a Numeric Tie? No.
38 Votes: 1st Place (25 pts.), Three 2nd Place (24 pts. each), Three 3rd Place (23 pts. each), 4th Place (22 pts.), Two 6th Place (20 pts. each), 7th Place (19 pts.), Two 8th Place (18 pts. each), Three 10th Place (16 pts. each), Two 11th Place (15 pts. each), Two 12th Place (14 pts. each), Two 13th Place (13 pts. each), 14th Place (12 pts.), 15th Place (11 pts.), 16th Place (10 pts.), Three 17th Place (9 pts. each), 18th Place (8 pts.), Two 19th Place (7 pts. each), 20th Place (6 pts.), Two 21st Place (5 pts. each), 22nd Place (4 pts.), Three 23rd Place (3 pts. each)
Miss Vicky
01-23-15, 11:16 AM
Ratatouille features some of the most breathtakingly beautiful animation I've ever seen. The vivid colors and incredible attention to detail make the images really pop off the screen. The food looks almost good enough to eat and I love that the rats move in a very rodent like way without losing the cartoon appeal of the character designs. (Also they are adorable!)
But more than that I adore the characters and the dialogue. Chef Skinner is among my favorite movie villains, not because I find him at all menacing but because that angry little man with the combover is quite cute in his own way. This movie also stands as the only film in which I enjoyed a performance from Peter O'Toole (as Anton Ego), probably owing a lot to the fact that I don't have to see his creepy mug.
I had Ratatouille at #2.
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My List
2. Ratatouille (#8)
3. Mary and Max. (#23)
4. Wreck-It Ralph (#27)
6. Surf's Up (#99)
7. The Nightmare Before Christmas (#14)
8. Over the Hedge (Near Miss)
9. Chicken Run (#51)
10. Charlotte's Web (#57)
11. Despicable Me (#61)
12. Waltz With Bashir (#26)
16. The Emporer's New Groove (#80)
21. How the Grinch Stole Christmas (#42)
22. Lilo & Stitch (#83)
23. How to Train Your Dragon (#19)
24. Bambi (#50)
cricket
01-23-15, 11:33 AM
Ratatouille was my #1.
Princess Mononoke would be in my top 30.
My list-
1. Ratatouille*
3. Rango
4. How to Train Your Dragon
5. Persepolis
6. Grave of the Fireflies
7. Animal Farm
8. Wreck-It Ralph
9. Fantastic Mr. Fox
10. Waltz with Bashir
11. The Plague Dogs
12. The Incredibles
13. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
14. Mary and Max
16. The Wind Rises
17. Pinocchio
18. Charlotte's Web
19. Kung Fu Panda
20. A Town Called Panic
21. Fantastic Planet
24. The Adventures of Prince Achmed (Near miss)
25. How the Grinch Stole Christmas
I really tried to get through Ratatouille...I really did. It was just too damned twee for my taste, just like Finding Nemo et. al. Clearly, these films are put together with love and a tremendous amount of skill, but they are just too cutsie for me. That said, I can totally see why people would be over-the-moon for these films if their tastes trend towards character and stories such as these.
I will rarely turn a film off, but when I do, it is usually due to too-cute overload. An example I always use, and will probably get me clobbered in this thread, is when the lion cub jumps out of a bush and starts bobbing back and forth and singing in The Lion King. I just could not stand it. BAM, off goes the DVD player. When The Lion King first came out, I was well into adulthood, so I don't have any nostalgic ties to this stuff, which I know plays a big part for a lot of people.
Anyway - The rat did not make my list...
I had Ratatouille at #6. The most thorough discussion I had about it was in response to a rewatch and post that Yoda wrote. If anyone wants to read my post in context, you can click the arrow immediately after my name at the beginning of the quote. :)
This is in response to Chris's re-review just a post above. I'm not sure if I'm actually responding to Chris's concerns because many of them do not concern me at all. For example, the floating TV is a classic movie motif, so I won't try to address that, but if I felt the need, I'd say something along the lines that it's Remy's mind remembering what he's already seen. True, Brad Bird used the TV more effectively in The Incredibles and The Iron Giant, but it goes without saying that Bird likes to communicate info through TVs, especially primitive ones.
Now, when I read your original review, Yoda, you seemed to consider that Remy was the main character, and he certainly is, but this last post implies that Linguini is the main character and unless I'm mistaken, you never once mention Remy. To me, the movie is about how the most ridiculous-seeming characters can do what they do and do it well. Maybe I'm misremembering this, but I thought that Holden had some major problems with this flick because Remy was a rat and involved with food, and then when he calls on all his friends and family to help out, they were ALL RATS TOO! Now, I know for a fact that if Remy and all his friends were gay humans that Holds wouldn't care one bit, so I find this negative criticism to be irrelevant, and I bet I've had more rats in my houses eating away at things which I care about than he has. :)
So basically, I think the film's message is more along the lines that you may find your better half (Remy is obviously Linguini's better half) in the strangest places. I love and laugh out loud, repeatedly, at the way that Remy controls Linguini by pulling his hair. It's physical slapstick as good as it gets and just about as good as anything the great silent clowns ever did. Another message is that humans and non-humans can relate equally as long as they respect each other, although I'm not sure how much Remy actually respects Linguini up front, after all there's not much there.
In general, I just love the storytelling ability of Brad Bird. That, and the fact that he can write hilarious dialogue. The thing which appeals to me about Ratatouille is that there is so much going on that I cannot complain about most of it because I'm too busy enjoying it. Yes, Act III is the best. Does everyone notice that Ego looks like a character out of a Tim Burton flick, that his typewriter has a skull on it and that his "gothic room" is in the shape of a coffin? You can see that all in the scene where Ego learns that Gusteau's is now popular again.
As far as the "artificial" romance is concerned, maybe it is underdeveloped, but it's certainly believeable. Linguini seems to have almost no social skills, but you don't need social skills to be attracted to women in the workplace. It's just normal. Linguini has very little past and very little depth (except for what Remy gives him), so it's not surprising that he doesn't especially grow after he learns he's the offspring of Gusteau. However, he does use what he can do quite well in Act III. Linguini uses his skating prowess to serve everyone quite handsomely when Ego shows up. He also seems less-tongue-tied than normal. I still give Ratatouille 4, but I'll admit that the last 25 minutes are the best. However, among my earlier, fave lines are "Let's toast to your non-idiocy!" and " I don't LIKE food. I LOVE it. If I don't love it, I don't SWALLOW". Maybe I'll add some more later.
Pussy Galore
01-23-15, 12:43 PM
I like Ratatouille and Princess Mononoke, but I would personally have them come up the other way around haha.
Daniel M
01-23-15, 02:12 PM
Ratatouille is very good although I think I've only seen it once when it first came out.
The Gunslinger45
01-23-15, 02:19 PM
I saw Princess Mononoke and I liked it Very good movie. But I did not vote for it.
Also, I did not vote for any Pixar movies since I have only seen a few of them.
gbgoodies
01-23-15, 02:24 PM
I watched Ratatouille when it was released on DVD, but I didn't like the movie. I couldn't understand why it got such great reviews, but at the time, it was my least favorite Pixar movie. But After reading some posts about it here on MoFo, I decided to re-watch it for this list, and I liked it a lot this time.
I don't know what changed my opinion about it, maybe it was just lower expectations, but I'm glad I decided to give it another chance because it really is a very good movie.
Having said that, it still didn't make my list, but that's just because there are so many great Pixar, (and Disney), movies, and I was trying to keep those movies to a minimum to make room for some other movies, (and shorts), that I love.
But I'm glad to see it so high on this list, especially because at least three Pixar movies that I like even more than Ratatouille still haven't shown up yet.
Ratatouille is a very enjoyable film, but it's one of my least favourites of the Pixars i've seen. Quite shocked to see Finding Nemo over the last three, wasn't aware that it was this popular here.
Also, I did not vote for any Pixar movies since I have only seen a few of them.
My learn something new on MoFo for the day. Very surprising since you are a big Disney fan. Seems like an easy transition into Pixar's stuff.
The Gunslinger45
01-23-15, 03:09 PM
My learn something new on MoFo for the day. Very surprising since you are a big Disney fan. Seems like an easy transition into Pixar's stuff.
Well Disney got big after I got out of Disney. I only really got back into the Disney new and renewed the love for the old flicks these past few years. Just when Pixar has started to stumble a bit.
rauldc14
01-23-15, 04:34 PM
Ratatouille was my NUMBER 4. The film follows a rat named Remy whom out of his curiousity of food and cooking leads him to follows the famous cook of Gusteau. When Gusteau suddenly dies, Remy leads himself to Gusteaus cooking kitchen in Paris. Paris is simply stunningly showed as remarkable in an animated fashion, especially the scene where Remy is on the rooftop.
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The characters and the story are charming. The animation is captivating and it's very easy to get caught up in the minor details of it all. The story is brought to life by the vivid colors and the imaginative screenplay. Remy escapes danger multiple times and creates a soup that is loved by its visitors while also becoming friends and a new coworker with Alfredo Linguini falsely credited for his cooking skills. Through trial and error, Remy teaches Alfredo his skills as much as he can. His manager is skeptic and seems to know a rat may have something to do with Alfredo's cooking.
My favorite scene is when Skinner is chasing Remi after Remi discovers the documents stating that Alfredo is the rightful heir to Gusteaus restaurant. The animation and music are a stellar combination in that scene.
In the end, Remy helps to win over the hearts and stomachs of Paris eaters in the films, and animated film viewers as well.
The film seems to have a good balance of funny and lighthearted moments. When I watched this film for the first time I knew it would be one of my favorite animations, and it should stay high on my list for years to come.
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Miss Vicky
01-24-15, 10:49 AM
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Monsters, Inc.
(Pete Docter, David Silverman, and Lee Unkrich, 2001)
Rank: 7 / Score: 534 points
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Miss Vicky
01-24-15, 10:49 AM
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7. Monsters, Inc. - Voting Stats
Total Points: 534
Part of a Numeric Tie? No.
37 Votes: 1st Place (25 pts.), 3rd Place (23 pts.), Five 4th Place (22 pts. each), Two 5th Place (21 pts. each), Two 6th Place (20 pts. each), Two 7th Place (19 pts. each), 8th Place (18 pts.), Two 9th Place (17 pts. each), 10th Place (16 pts.), 11th Place (15 pts.), Three 12th Place (14 pts. each), 13th Place (13 pts.), Three 14th Place (12 pts. each), 16th Place (10 pts.), Three 17th Place (9 pts. each), Three 19th Place (7 pts. each), 20th Place (6 pts.), Two 21st Place (5 pts. each), Two 22nd Place (4 pts. each)
rauldc14
01-24-15, 10:53 AM
Its been so long since I've seen Monsters Inc. The last time I saw it was in German. I do remember liking it, but i still prefer most of Pixar's other stuff over it.
Miss Vicky
01-24-15, 10:55 AM
Monsters, Inc. is a great movie. It's imaginative, colorful, touching and really funny. It very much deserves a place here on the countdown (though I'm annoyed that it and a certain fishy Pixar film ranked higher than Ratatouille), but I could not find a place for it on my ballot. Had I voted only for features, I probably would've put it at #24.
Daniel M
01-24-15, 10:56 AM
Finding Nemo above Monsters, Inc.? I didn't expect that.
Monsters, Inc. was my number four film. I loved it when I was growing up and I think everything about it is fantastic. Love the colours and design of the monster world, the characters are all great and the voice casting is spot on. It's a great buddy story, with a fantastic villain, and manages to be effective emotionally in its kids based story.
I like Monsters, Inc. a lot, but I like it less than I did. I remember really loving it at first. After I saw Up (and then saw it again, and again, and again) and started noticing all the things packed into it, I was excited to go back and rewatch Monsters expecting the same kind of density. I didn't find it, though. Still a very attractive, sweet movie with great performances and lovely animation (the fur stuff holds up to this day), but I don't know if it has the narrative complexity or expansive metaphors of some of Pixar's later stuff.
Still a tremendous movie, but I like it right where it is, given the other films yet to be revealed. :)
cricket
01-24-15, 11:07 AM
I liked Monsters Inc. plenty; it would be in my top 35-40. I didn't realize it was this popular.
The Rodent
01-24-15, 11:14 AM
Monsters was my #12...
01.
02.
03.
04.
05. Dumbo (1941) - 49th
06.
07. Coraline (2009) - 36th
08. Beavis And Butt-Head Do America (1996) - 66th
09.
10.
11. Aladdin (1992) - 15th
12. Monsters Inc. (2001) - 7th
13. Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs (1937) - 31st
14. Shrek (2001) - 21st
15.
16. The Simpsons Movie (2007) - 51st
17. Watership Down (1978) - 75th
18. The Iron Giant (1999) - 22nd
19.
20. Fantasia (1940) - 20th
21. A Scanner Darkly (2006) - 47th
22. Akira (1988) - 29th
23.
24.
25. Alice In Wonderland (1951) - 33rd
What's left of my list:
1. Will make it.
3. Won't make it.
4. Didn't make it
5. Will make it.
11. Will make it.
13. Won't make it.
15. Won't make it.
17. Will make it.
19. Won't make it.
I'll finish with 20 of my 25 on the list, but #3 and #4 both missing.
christine
01-24-15, 11:29 AM
I had Monsters at number 17. Watched it with my little niece at Christmas and she was captivated, and scared in places too, but not too scared which makes it well balanced for little 'uns. It's a good watch for adults too, and you're right about the fur Yoda, it's still impressive :)
Thursday Next
01-24-15, 12:30 PM
Didn't vote for Ratatouille but Monsters Inc was my #22. I didn't care much for the sequel though.
Only one more film from my list will be showing up, my #1 film in fact. Crossing my fingers it makes #1 on this list but not holding my breath.
I had Monsters, Inc. as my #... nope, it's very good, but it didn't make my list, which looks like this now:
1. The Incredibles (#11)
2. Dumbo (#49)
3. Alice in Wonderland (#33)
4. Beauty and the Beast (#12)
5. Bolero/Evolution/Allegro non Troppo (#77)
6. Ratatouille (#8)
7. Pinocchio (#24)
8. Fantasia (#20)
9. Iron Giant (#22)
10. Coming!
11. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (#30)
12. The Hunchback of Notre Dame (#70)
13. Duck Amuck (#55)
14. Darkness Light Darkness (Did not make it)
15. The Adventures of Prince Achmed (#110)
16. Vincent (1982) (#109)
17. The Nightmare Before Christmas (#14)
18. Grave of the Fireflies (#13)
19. The Little Mermaid (#37)
20. Coming!
21. Coming!
22. How to Train Your Dragon (#19)
23. Rango (#34)
24. Mary and Max (#23)
25. Coming!
MovieMeditation
01-24-15, 12:49 PM
I did not have Monster's Inc. on my list, and I think I kind of left it out even though I really like it. It could maybe have been between 20-25 or even has high as 16-25, but in the end I did not put it on there...
Great animated flick though.
gbgoodies
01-24-15, 12:56 PM
Monsters, Inc. is my second favorite Pixar movie. It was #5 on my list.
honeykid
01-24-15, 01:18 PM
My favourite animated film and, therefore, my #1 choice. I like it so much that it's the only animation on my 100.
As I have nothing left to show up on the list (that's going to), here's the nine that managed to make my list.
1. Monster's Inc
2. Charlotte's Web
3. The Simpson's Movie
4. Beavis & Butthead
5. South Park: Bigger, Longer And Uncut
6. Shrek
7. The Powerpuff Girls
8. When the Wind Blows
9. Bebe's Kids
Erasmus Folly
01-24-15, 01:24 PM
I love Monster's Inc. It should have been higher on my list, but I was in a rush and didn't proofread it carefully enough before I sent it in. (There were a couple of other mistakes as well. Oh well.) I got the original DVD when it came out and I bought the new 3D version which I haven't even watched yet. Maybe today.
My list so far**OLOR Its Place in the Countdown
1. Fantasia 20
2. Ratatouille 8
3. Persepolis 28
4. The Curse of the Were-Rabbit-Wallace and Grommit *58
7. Bambi**50
9. Grave of the Fireflies 13
10. Le Planete Sauvage *45
14. Toy Story 3 10
15. Princess Mononoke 9
16. Coraline**36
19. Monster's Inc 7
20. Corpse Bride *69
21. Ice Age**Missed the Cut
23. Alice in Wonderland**33
24. Pinocchio 24
dadgumblah
01-24-15, 10:38 PM
Monsters Inc. was my #8. Still enjoy this movie quite a bit.
Daniel M
01-24-15, 10:45 PM
My favourite animated film and, therefore, my #1 choice. I like it so much that it's the only animation on my 100.
As I have nothing left to show up on the list (that's going to), here's the nine that managed to make my list.
1. Monster's Inc
2. Charlotte's Web
3. The Simpson's Movie
4. Beavis & Butthead
5. South Park: Bigger, Longer And Uncut
6. Shrek
7. The Powerpuff Girls
8. When the Wind Blows
9. Bebe's Kids
I don't know whether to laugh or cry :p
rauldc14
01-24-15, 10:48 PM
I know I cried.
Miss Vicky
01-24-15, 10:58 PM
I cried tears of joy.
1. Monster's Inc
2. Charlotte's Web
3. The Simpson's Movie
4. Beavis & Butthead
5. South Park: Bigger, Longer And Uncut
6. Shrek
7. The Powerpuff Girls
8. When the Wind Blows
9. Bebe's Kids
You have the mainstream crowd and you have the anti-mainstream crowd. Then you have HK, who is either truly unique or has been trolling this place for years. Power Puff Girls HK?
Guaporense
01-25-15, 02:10 AM
Damn. My dream of Mononoke and Spirited Away being the top two has been shattered! :tsk::tsk::tsk::furious::furiousdevil::eek:
They will be the top 2 non-English films though.
Guaporense
01-25-15, 02:19 AM
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Mononoke-hime
(Princess Mononoke)
(Hayao Miyazaki, 1997)
Rank: 9 / Score: 502 points
http://i.imgur.com/TLhM4Wp.jpg (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119698/) http://i.imgur.com/o7E6o1m.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Mononoke)
Princess Mononoke is a very important film for me as a fan of movies, animation and manga. It made me reavaluate the potential of all these mediums in terms of their capacity of moving me. Never before my first re-watch of PM I was so moved by an animation, film or manga related art. It's truly an astonishing artistic accomplishment, a commercial blockbuster film with high caliber level of artistic rigor. The film is sculpted beautifully: the whole film feels like a sculpture in time (borrowing Tarvosky's expression), carefully arranged, unlike other blockbuster films.
Miyazaki himself said that he made this film to move people and to represent the subconscious perception of the Japanese people regarding nature, as something mysterious to be feared, as the deep green of dense mysterious forests where no man has gone before, inhabited by creatures he cannot master. He contrasts this perception with the more hedonistic philosophy of life of people from Spain or Italy, he claims that it's good for the Japanese people to fear something, to fear nature. He mixes this "folkloric" element with modern historical research and his own personal ideologies, feminism and ecology.
It's a very postmodern film in many ways, as it uses a medium, animation, not traditionally used in serious film by the mainstream studios, and deals all with themes reflecting the reality of late 20th century industrial civilization and targets a young audience that is inheriting this civilization, themes that are rarely seem in other serious films made with artistic ideals primarily in mind.
It is one of the greatest animations of all time, without a shadow of a doubt.
Guaporense
01-25-15, 02:20 AM
You have the mainstream crowd and you have the anti-mainstream crowd. Then you have HK, who is either truly unique or has been trolling this place for years. Power Puff Girls HK?
It's better than most Disney films. I found several episodes of the TV series pretty intelligent in fact.
Well, I gotta say guys, I'm a bit disappointed with how this list turned out, and I didn't set my expectations very high.
Guaporense
01-25-15, 02:27 AM
I'm not going back through, but doesn't it look like all of Miyazaki's films are going to make it? Seems to me he is about as main stream as Pixar around here with us ignorant westerners.
Not all, Castle of Cagliostro didn't make it.
Miyazaki is overall the single most influential animation director in the world. He is as mainstream to animation as Hitchcock is mainstream to film. Knowing his work is essential. None of the relatively less mainstream anime film classics, such as Gunbuster or Galaxy Express 999, made it.
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 02:28 AM
Well, I gotta say guys, I'm a bit disappointed with how this list turned out, and I didn't set my expectations very high.
Why so? (Not that you've any right to complain since you didn't vote.)
Guaporense
01-25-15, 02:29 AM
Well, I gotta say guys, I'm a bit disappointed with how this list turned out, and I didn't set my expectations very high.
I wasn't. Because it's not like this is an anime forum inhabited by animation buffs who watched everything Yuasa directed, and as a fact, >80% of relevant anime is not film but TV series.
Guaporense
01-25-15, 02:29 AM
Why so? (Not that you've any right to complain since you didn't vote.)
Too much mainstream children's films, too little obscure violent adult anime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjIQ5lFyZUQ
:D
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 02:31 AM
To much mainstream children's films, too little obscure violent adult anime.
I wasn't asking you.
Actually I was expecting more stuff along the lines of The Illusionist and Watership Down. I knew there would be a lot of Walt Disney and Pixar movies, but the list is just considerably more skewed towards mainstream kid's movies than technically praise worthy adult films than I was expecting. I was hoping there would be some more interesting films from other countries besides the U.S. and Japan. Just looking at this list at all gives me such a bewildering feeling.
You didn't see 50% of the 70's list consisting of children's movies. This isn't the top 100 greatest children's movies is it? You know what, that actually wouldn't be a bad idea for a list. But what makes animation so different that you guys don't go out looking for serious material but are content to watch kid's stuff? I just can't wrap my mind around it.
I'm curious, how many people saw René Laloux's other two films besides Fantastic Planet?
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 03:28 AM
So "praise worthy" and "mainstream kid's movies" are mutually exclusive? I say BS.
I'm curious, how many people saw René Laloux's other two films besides Fantastic Planet?
I haven't, only because I don't know where to find them and they don't involve Roland Topor, who is a big reason I like Fantastic Planet. However, I wouldn't be surprised if, after seeing them, they made my list.
So "praise worthy" and "mainstream kid's movies" are mutually exclusive? I say BS.
I think his point is that there are a lot of more quality animated films that could have made this list. IMO a lot of people put things on their list just based on nostalgia, rather than actual quality.
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 03:41 AM
I think his point is that there are a lot of more quality animated films that could have made this list. IMO a lot of people put things on their list just based on nostalgia, rather than actual quality.
Well I wouldn't classify any of these as "mainstream kid's movies"
96. It's Such A Beautiful Day (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1214115#post1214115)
93. Garden of Words (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1214500#post1214500)
89. Animal Farm (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1215879#post1215880)
86. Paprika (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1216825#post1216825)
85. 5 Centimeters Per Second (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1216826#post1216826)
84. The Wind Rises (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1217366#post1217366)
77. Bolero/Evolution (from Allegro Non Troppo) (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1219199#post1219199)
76. A Town Called Panic (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1219809#post1219809)
75. Watership Down (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1219811#post1219811)
74. Heavy Metal (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1220283#post1220283)
71. Wolf Children (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1220971#post1220971)
67. Millennium Actress (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1222494#post1222494)
65. When the Wind Blows (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1223405#post1223405)
63. The Plague Dogs (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1223952#post1223952)
62. Yellow Submarine (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1224325#post1224325)
60. The Illusionist (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1224975#post1224975)
53. Tale Of Tales (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1226124#post1226124)
48. Ghost in the Shell (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1227563#post1227563)
47. A Scanner Darkly (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1227564#post1227564)
45. Fantastic Planet (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1227965#post1227965)
44. Perfect Blue (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1228533#post1228533)
41. Waking Life (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1229240#post1229240)
28. Persepolis (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1233496#post1233496)
26. Waltz With Bashir (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1234134#post1234134)
23. Mary and Max. (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1234612#post1234612)
13. Grave of the Fireflies (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1240451#post1240451)
And I'd say that's pretty damn good amount considering the demographic of this board.
That's barely more than a quarter of the list. :p And most are at the latter half.
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 03:44 AM
That's barely more than a quarter of the list. :p And most are at the latter half.
And this is different from other MoFo Lists how?
How many films in the 70's list were put there based on nostalgia, rather than quality? Willy Wonka, maybe, but even that's a quality movie.
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 03:50 AM
How many films in the 70's list were put there based on nostalgia, rather than quality? Willy Wonka, maybe, but even that's a quality movie.
Quality is subjective (and I hate Willy Wonka). Anyway my point is that the majority of all of the MoFo lists are full of the usual suspects for the given list criteria with most of the more obscure titles placing in the bottom half of the countdown. As such, this list is no different.
In any case, there were other "more adult" films that got plenty of votes but failed to make the countdown. The Triplets of Belleville, for example, received five votes but two of those five voters each gave it only one point.
No, but I said "technically praise worthy." I was referring to the more technical aspects of film. Compare Bambi to Fantastic Planet. Bambi is technically sound, but not as technically impressive. Fantastic Planet uses very interesting storytelling mechanisms that children can not deduce because they aren't aware of that depth. Bambi's message is very simple straight forward and out in the open. Bambi's strongest points are it's beautiful simplicity and it's sketching. I remember watching some behind the scenes stuff about how they studied plants and weather for the effects of things like rain on leaves. It's very well done. But Fantastic Planet is way beyond that. Not only is it technically sound in everything it does, but it's incredibly imaginative and creative, and there is so much depth for an adult to analyze.
Now both of these movies were in the mid range, but Monsters Inc. is #7? This is what makes me just go wtf.
I think there's a good amount of people here with excellent taste in films. And for the more mainstream crowd, really who cares? It's fun, it's what you enjoy, so great. I have no issue with that. But I get the feeling that a lot of people just went into the recesses of their mind and pulled out all their childhood favorites that they haven't seen in years.
Hmm... my posts are starting to get a bit long winded and I don't want to derail the thread. I don't really mean to just put things down either. I'm trying to be genuine. This is how I feel. I think I've said too much already though. I should let you guys get back to it. Sorry if I offended anyone.
Sexy Celebrity
01-25-15, 03:51 AM
Nostalgia... quality... it's all the same thing.
Wait... The Triplets of Belleville didn't make the cut but ANASTASIA did?!?!?!
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 04:02 AM
Compare Bambi to Fantastic Planet. Bambi is technically sound, but not technically impressive. Fantastic Planet uses very interesting storytelling mechanisms that children can not deduce because they aren't aware of that depth. Bambi's message is very simple straight forward and out in the open. Bambi's strongest points are it's beautiful simplicity and it's sketching. I remember watching some behind the scenes stuff about how they studied plants and weather for the effects of things like rain on leaves. It's very well done. But Fantastic Planet is way beyond that. Not only is it technically sound in everything it does, but it's incredibly imaginative and creative, and there is so much depth for an adult to analyze.
And for all your long winded comparisons, Fantastic Planet placed higher than Bambi, so I'm not sure what this is supposed to prove here. In any case, I found Fantastic Planet beautiful to look at, but struggled to get through it. I've seen Bambi several times in my adulthood and it's one of the few classic Disney animations that still holds up for me. The animation is beautiful, the story is engaging, and I actually care about its characters. I can only say one of those things for Fantastic Planet, which is why one film got my vote and the other did not.
but Monsters Inc. is #7? This is what makes me just go wtf.
What do you have against Monsters, Inc.? I think it's a great movie with absolutely stunning animation and it holds absolutely zero nostalgic value for me since I was an adult when it was released.
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 04:14 AM
Wait... The Triplets of Belleville didn't make the cut but ANASTASIA did?!?!?!
Yep.
Votes for Anastasia: 7th Place (19 pts.), 11th Place (15 pts), Two 13th Place (13 pts. each)
Votes for The Triplets of Belleville: 4th Place (22 pts.), 9th Place (17 pts.), 19th Place (7 pts.), Two 25th Place (1 pt. each)
Blame it on the scoring system. :shrug:
Damn you, scoring system!
gbgoodies
01-25-15, 04:28 AM
Yep.
Votes for Anastasia: 7th Place (19 pts.), 11th Place (15 pts), Two 13th Place (13 pts. each)
Votes for The Triplets of Belleville: 4th Place (22 pts.), 9th Place (17 pts.), 19th Place (7 pts.), Two 25th Place (1 pt. each)
Blame it on the scoring system. :shrug:
I was the one who voted for Anastasia in 7th Place. :D
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 04:31 AM
I was the one who voted for Anastasia in 7th Place. :D
Blame it on the scoring system. :shrug:
Blame it on gbgoodies. :shrug:
gbgoodies
01-25-15, 04:35 AM
Blame it on gbgoodies. :shrug:
Yup. It's all my fault. I love Anastasia. I wish I could have voted it even higher. :D
Quality is subjective (and I hate Willy Wonka). Anyway my point is that the majority of all of the MoFo lists are full of the usual suspects for the given list criteria with most of the more obscure titles placing in the bottom half of the countdown. As such, this list is no different.
Actually quality is by definition objective. It's only our perception that is subjective.
But I do think you were making an effort Miss Vicky. You put this all together, and you were actually watching movies for it. I don't even know who the culprits were. Even HK's list is fine to me. I really just don't understand why people like movies like Monsters Inc. and it's that compiled with the medium of animation being less popular on the site.
I kind of want to improve the mood though, because I think I really turned things South... I'm sorry.
Anyway, here's my list if I would have submitted one:
1. Perfect Blue
2. Ghost in the Shell
3. The Animatrix
4. Akira
5. Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade
6. Venus Wars
7. Ninja Scroll
8. Blood: The Last Vampire
9. Puella Magi Madoka Magica the Movie Part II: Eternal
10. Kite
11. Fantastic Planet
12. Puella Magi Madoka Magica the Movie Part III: Rebellion
13. Genocyber
14. Dragon's Heaven
15. The Time Masters
16. The Girl Who Leapt Through Time
17. Watership Down
18. Messo Forte
19. Puella Magi Madoka Magica the Movie Part I: Beginnings
20. Angel's Egg
21. Black Magic M-66
22. The Dagger of Kamui
23. Princess Mononoke
24. Heavy Metal
25. Gal Force: Eternal Story
To me Angel's Egg not making the list is like Stalker not making the 70's list.
And for all your long winded comparisons, Fantastic Planet placed higher than Bambi, so I'm not sure what this is supposed to prove here. In any case, I found Fantastic Planet beautiful to look at, but struggled to get through it. I've seen Bambi several times in my adulthood and it's one of the few classic Disney animations that still holds up for me. The animation is beautiful, the story is engaging, and I actually care about its characters. I can only say one of those things for Fantastic Planet, which is why one film got my vote and the other did not.
What do you have against Monsters, Inc.? I think it's a great movie with absolutely stunning animation and it holds absolutely zero nostalgic value for me since I was an adult when it was released.
Well, Bambi wasn't the highest ranked Disney film, but The Time Masters and Gandahar didn't even make the list. I'm not talking about those specific movies though, they are just hypothetical examples. There are way more Bambi type movies and far too few Fantastic Planet type movies.
It may be all the usual suspects for you guys, but it's not all the usual suspects for the medium of animation.
Thursday Next
01-25-15, 06:55 AM
How many films in the 70's list were put there based on nostalgia, rather than quality? Willy Wonka, maybe, but even that's a quality movie.
The 80s list on the other hand...
The Gunslinger45
01-25-15, 07:14 AM
Damn you, scoring system!
DAMN YOU SHARKTOPUS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3uO-ERepMw
christine
01-25-15, 07:23 AM
Don't forget that a lot of the Disney classic films were pushing the technical bounds of animation back in the days they were made. They can't be dismissed as mere childrens animations. Snow White is an incredible film for 1937 - people were gobsmacked when they went to the cinema, I know that from stories from my own family.
Personally I thought voting for our top 25 for the Mofo Top 100 was voting for our favourite 25 animated films, the ones we love not the ones we admire in the whole pantheon of animation, so obviously nostalgia will play a part but what's the problem with that?
Zotis, your list seems to consist of mostly Japanese animations along the lines of sci-fi/cyberpunk action adventure films which genre you obviously like a lot, so you've voted for those - no problem. You would've had 7 of your films on the list and that's not even with your votes counted. If you would've voted then more might've appeared. I've had 12 of mine appear and looking at those 12 I see a range of animation* and that's not even looking at everyone elses .
*When The Wind Blows
Jungle Book
Dumbo
Coroline
Wallace and Gromit The Wrong Trousers
Snow White
Persepolis
Waltz with Bashir
Mary and Max
The Fantastic Mr Fox
Graveyard of the Fireflies
Monsters Inc
No stop motion animation on your list? :p :D
I was reading back through all the posts, and it seems to me it is almost like most animation is made with children in mind instead of adults. Hmmmm
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 11:39 AM
I was reading back through all the posts, and it seems to me it is almost like most animation is made with children in mind instead of adults. Hmmmm
I have no idea what gave you that impression... :shifty:
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 11:40 AM
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/AnimationCountdown/Numbers/6.gif
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/AnimationCountdown/Posters/6.jpg
Finding Nemo
(Andrew Stanton and Lee Unkrich, 2003)
Rank: 6 / Score: 559 points
http://i.imgur.com/TLhM4Wp.jpg (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0266543/) http://i.imgur.com/o7E6o1m.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finding_Nemo)
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 11:40 AM
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/AnimationCountdown/Gifs/6findingnemo.gif
6. Finding Nemo - Voting Stats
Total Points: 559
Part of a Numeric Tie? No.
37 Votes: Two 1st Place (25 pts. each), Two 2nd Place (24 pts. each), Two 3rd Place (23 pts. each), Four 5th Place (21 pts. each), Four 6th Place (20 pts. each), Three 7th Place (19 pts. each), Two 8th Place (18 pts. each), Two 11th Place (15 pts. each), 12th Place (14 pts.), Two 13th Place (13 pts. each), 15th Place (11 pts.), Two 16th Place (10 pts. each), Two 17th Place (9 pts. each), 18th Place (8 pts.), 19th Place (7 pts.), Two 20th Place (6 pts. each), Two 21st Place (5 pts. each), Two 25th Place (1 pt. each)
cricket
01-25-15, 11:44 AM
I didn't vote for Finding Nemo but I liked it a lot.
MovieMeditation
01-25-15, 11:45 AM
Finding Nemo is a great animated flick. A lot of fun, but I only had it at #21.
As I have said before it was so hard to fit in all these great flicks, so yeah it probably got pushed down a bit. But I do love it.
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 11:47 AM
Finding Nemo is quite an achievement visually. I remember seeing it in the theater and being blown away by just how beautiful it was. It's also a very funny movie and I adore many of its characters.
That said, there just seems to be something sort of lacking about it overall (I can't quite put my finger on what it is exactly, though) when compared to Pixar's other work and it was never in consideration for my ballot.
Daniel M
01-25-15, 11:47 AM
Finding Nemo was my number sixteen. I'm not sure now if that's too high or too low, I liked it an awful lot when it came out, and I especially respect the idea about a father trying to rescue his son, the art is fantastic, great use of colours, and the whole thing is a good adventure story with its heart in the right place. I think parts towards the end get a little tedious, and it's been a while since I have watched it, but it's a very good film.
Rango
Fantastic Mr. Fox
Waking Life
Monsters, Inc.
My Neighbor Totoro
The Wrong Trousers
Chicken Run
Tale of Tales
Toy Story 2
Tango
---
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Duck Amuck
Fantastic Planet
The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
Finding Nemo
Princess Mononoke
The Iron Giant
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Alice in Wonderland
Fantasia
Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind
How to Train Your Dragon
Tarzan
Kung Fu Panda 2
rauldc14
01-25-15, 12:00 PM
Finding Nemo was my NUMBER 2. It is my favorite Pixar film of all time and it is also in my top 50 of all time. What I most enjoy about it is the look of the film. A lot of gifted animators put a lot into making the characters and the setting of the film. The ocean life is made to look breathtaking, which is stunning for an animated film. It makes the ocean come to life. It makes me actually want to go to Austrailia to see the reefs. When I went snorkeling in Hawaii I saw a lot of sealife and I even saw a fish that looked just like Nemo! It was awesome.
Andrew Stanton, the films director, is really really talented here. He creates a story that is both heartwarming and humorous. It has the perfect blend of everything that you would want in an animated film. He is ultra talented, and I look forward to the rest of his work. Glad to see that he still has a bother film coming up here shortly.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/giphymedia/media/QwLvdjBfyxSxO/giphy.gif
I love all the characters, and of course Crush the turtle may be the coolest of them all. He's been rocking my avatar for quite sometime now. I think I can connect to the films theme, with the father and son relationship. With my Dad passing away five years ago, it makes it very personal to me the bond that Nemo and Marlin have created. It even saddens me to see Marlin on his journey to find his son Nemo, but when they reconnect, it is such a great feeling.
This was the film that got me into animation as an adult. It proved to me that even as an adult you can still enjoy animation by looking into the story and the themes that are offered. I'm not sure how this whole sequel will pan out, I actually think it should be left alone. It's fine as a standalone story, I think the sequel will be taking it too far.
Overall, it's an ultra memorable film for me and it is one that will be staying up high on my list of favorites. Animation has never appealed to me more.
http://cdn2.crushable.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Shark-Bait-Finding-Nemo.gif
Cobpyth
01-25-15, 12:09 PM
I only had two Pixar films on my list and Finding Nemo wasn't one of them, but it might be my third favorite Pixar film (it's hard to choose). It's just such an extremely solid film. It's an adventurous spectacle that provides a wonderful visual experience, plenty of laughs, a few heartbreaking bumps along the way (just like every good family picture) and a warm and positive feeling in the end. I don't mind its high placement at all.
http://31.media.tumblr.com/ad5e5305a8df85133a2e8390debfcc40/tumblr_ncx8gwd4Jo1tq4of6o1_500.gif
Friendly Mushroom!
01-25-15, 12:17 PM
Yep.
Votes for Anastasia: 7th Place (19 pts.), 11th Place (15 pts), Two 13th Place (13 pts. each)
Votes for The Triplets of Belleville: 4th Place (22 pts.), 9th Place (17 pts.), 19th Place (7 pts.), Two 25th Place (1 pt. each)
Blame it on the scoring system. :shrug:
While you are at it, can you please show the scores for From up on Poppy Hill, Secret of NIMH, The Spongebob Squarepants Movie and the Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh?
Friendly Mushroom!
01-25-15, 12:18 PM
Finding Nemo is great. It didn't make my list because I decided to have Frozen as my 25.
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 12:18 PM
Actually quality is by definition objective.
Not when applied to art.
Friendly Mushroom!
01-25-15, 12:19 PM
http://31.media.tumblr.com/ad5e5305a8df85133a2e8390debfcc40/tumblr_ncx8gwd4Jo1tq4of6o1_500.gif
Blow up Sweden?
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 12:36 PM
While you are at it
You sure are one demanding dude.
From Up On Poppy Hill
54 points: 8th Place (18 pts.), 14th Place (12 pts.), 15th Place (11 pts.), 19th Place (7 pts.), 20th Place (6 pts.)
The Secret of NIMH
53 points: 4th Place (22 pts.), 11th Place (15 pts.), 16th Place (10 pts.), 20th Place (6 pts.)
The Spongebob Squarepants Movie
38 points: 14th Place (12 pts.), 17th Place (9 pts.), 18th Place (8 pts.), 21st Place (5 pts.), Two 24th Place (2 pts. each)
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
16 points: 18th Place (8 pts.), 20th Place (5 pts.), 23rd Place (3 pts.)
Friendly Mushroom!
01-25-15, 12:40 PM
You sure are one demanding dude.
From Up On Poppy Hill
54 points: 8th Place (18 pts.), 14th Place (12 pts.), 15th Place (11 pts.), 19th Place (7 pts.), 20th Place (6 pts.)
The Secret of NIMH
53 points: 4th Place (22 pts.), 11th Place (15 pts.), 16th Place (10 pts.), 20th Place (6 pts.)
The Spongebob Squarepants Movie
38 points: 14th Place (12 pts.), 17th Place (9 pts.), 18th Place (8 pts.), 21st Place (5 pts.), Two 24th Place (2 pts. each)
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
16 points: 18th Place (8 pts.), 20th Place (5 pts.), 23rd Place (3 pts.)
Thank you very much.
Sorry if it was inconvenient for you.
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 12:48 PM
You're welcome.
As you can see from those examples and from the stats I posted for The Triplets of Belleville, the actual placement on individual lists is just as important as the number of votes a film receives. It's Such A Beautiful Day placed at #96 with only three votes, while Spongebob had twice as many votes but failed to even come close to making the cut.
honeykid
01-25-15, 12:54 PM
Even HK's list is fine to me.
:eek:
Are you ill? ;)
Re: nostalgia. I don't see a lot of evidence for that being the driver of most of these choices. Speaking for myself, most of the films on my list I saw when I was an adult, and I appreciated them on that level.
People don't usually describe these films as "children's films" any more--they usually call them "family films," because they have, for a very long time now, been designed to appeal to all ages. I don't see this as a weakness. If anything, I think it means we have to grade on a curve. Obviously, a film designed to appeal to 5 year olds as well as 50 year olds probably can't be too daring with its narrative or too adult in its themes. But all art operates under constraints, and how it achieves things within those restraints is what makes it impressive. There's a degree of difficulty bonus that ought to be given to a film that manages to move and entertain a wider variety of people.
As for technical...well, maybe we're using that word differently. Whatever complaints someone has about the emphasis on Pixar and Disney films, all of them were cutting edge at the time.
Monsters Inc was my #4. Until a few months ago when i watched a certain upcoming film for this countdown, Monsters Inc was my favourite Pixar.I remember someone saying to me that they don't notice voiceovers and for the most part i'm the same. With the big exception being Monsters, it almost feels liike they got Goodman and Crystal then created characters for them, Sully being the big burly yet loveable one and Billy Crystals odd voice working perfectly for Mike. Then we have possibly the cutest character in all of film in Boo, as a kid i never would've though a Silent character could effect me so emotionally. Overall Monsters is a Delightful, Hilarious, wonderfully Animated film that i still happily watch onced a year or so.
Finding Nemo is another well made fun film, but if i'm being honest out of the 11 Pixars i've watched the only ones i like less are A Bugs Life and Monsters University.
My List - 14/25
1.Princess Mononoke
2.Fantastic Mr.Fox
4.Monsters Inc
6.Waltz With Bashir
7.Persepolis
8.W&G: The Wrong Trousers
11.Duck Amuck
12.The Incredibles
14.South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut
16.Allegro Non Troppo - Bolero
19.Howls Moving Castle
20.Pinocchio
22.Watership Down
25.Milennium Actress
Friendly Mushroom!
01-25-15, 01:11 PM
Don't know how well known of a fact this is but Nemo is Latin for No one so its funny the title is Finding No One.
MovieMeditation
01-25-15, 01:23 PM
Don't know how well known of a fact this is but Nemo is Latin for No one so its funny the title is Finding No One.
Well I'm sure that was the whole point picking that name. Disney and Pixar does that very often.
Since it can mean no one or nobody, it pretty much tells us how Nemo is just a nobody and he cannot accomplish anything because he's small and insignificant, especially with that broken fin. But then... you know, the moral proves us wrong etc etc
gbgoodies
01-25-15, 01:28 PM
Finding Nemo was #12 on my list. It's my third favorite Pixar movie. The voice acting in this movie was great. Ellen DeGeneres as Dory stole the movie. She was so funny.
Friendly Mushroom!
01-25-15, 01:32 PM
Well I'm sure that was the whole point picking that name. Disney and Pixar does that very often.
Since it can mean no one or nobody, it pretty much tells us how Nemo is just a nobody and he cannot accomplish anything because he's small and insignificant, especially with that broken fin. But then... you know, the moral proves us wrong etc etc
Good points. I haven't seen Nemo in a few years so I forgot about some details like that.
The Rodent
01-25-15, 01:40 PM
Had Nemo in 15th...
01.
02.
03.
04.
05. Dumbo (1941) - 49th
06.
07. Coraline (2009) - 36th
08. Beavis And Butt-Head Do America (1996) - 66th
09.
10.
11. Aladdin (1992) - 15th
12. Monsters Inc. (2001) - 7th
13. Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs (1937) - 31st
14. Shrek (2001) - 21st
15. Finding Nemo (2003) - 6th
16. The Simpsons Movie (2007) - 51st
17. Watership Down (1978) - 75th
18. The Iron Giant (1999) - 22nd
19.
20. Fantasia (1940) - 20th
21. A Scanner Darkly (2006) - 47th
22. Akira (1988) - 29th
23.
24.
25. Alice In Wonderland (1951) - 33rd
I just think the list is awkwardly imbalanced.
Friendly Mushroom!
01-25-15, 02:43 PM
I know someone who knows how to make stuff balanced.
Of course it is: wouldn't it be weird if the aggregate opinions of dozens of people independently listing hundreds of films had a cohesive theme to it?
Friendly Mushroom!
01-25-15, 02:46 PM
I know someone who knows how to make stuff balanced.
Personally I think the list is fine as of now. However, I will be slightly mad if Spirited Away isn't #1 considering the fact Mononoke, the film I personally thought would win, didn't.
Pussy Galore
01-25-15, 03:18 PM
My list so far, I didn't really like The Incredibles, Monsters Inc and Finding Nemo they are good movies, but nothing really impressed me in them.
1) Grave of the Fireflies (1988)
2) The Castle in the Sky (1986)
3) Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (1984)
4) Will show up
5) Toy Story 3
6) 5 Centimeters per Second (2007)
7) Whisper of the Heart (1995)
8) Princess Mononoke (1997)
9) My Neighbor Totoro (1988)
10) Beauty and the Beast (1991)
11) Won't show up
12) Will show up
13) Porco Rosso (1992)
14) Ratatouille (2007)
15) PMMM (2012)
16) Kiki's Delivery Service (1989)
17) Ponyo (2008)
18) Will show up
19) Toy Story 2 (1999)
20) The Jungle Book (1967)
21) Waltz with Bashir (2008)
22) Rango (2011)
23) Howl's Moving Castle (2004)
24) Won't show up
25) Paprika (2006)
Daniel M
01-25-15, 03:20 PM
Personally I think the list is fine as of now. However, I will be slightly mad if Spirited Away isn't #1 considering the fact Mononoke, the film I personally thought would win, didn't.
How come you thought that would win? I know you personally love them, but you have to take into account the tastes of the forum, the fact so many lists have been submitted and how many people will have seen the films in comparison to the Pixar ones. I'd be surprised if we didn't have a Pixar winner.
dadgumblah
01-25-15, 03:21 PM
Had Finding Nemo at #7. A beautifully rendered, funny film.
Friendly Mushroom!
01-25-15, 03:26 PM
How come you thought that would win? I know you personally love them, but you have to take into account the tastes of the forum, the fact so many lists have been submitted and how many people will have seen the films in comparison to the Pixar ones. I'd be surprised if we didn't have a Pixar winner.
Miss. Vicky said in the What You're Watching Tonight thread that she's was going to watch Mononoke because everyone wanted her to and someone said it was a hint that film was high on the list.
I'm sorry if I was selfish or something.
Erasmus Folly
01-25-15, 03:32 PM
I think his point is that there are a lot of more quality animated films that could have made this list. IMO a lot of people put things on their list just based on nostalgia, rather than actual quality.
Your point seems to be that people voted on their 'subjective' feelings of nostalgia rather than an universal 'objective' analysis of 'actual' quality.
All these lists are 'subjective' by definition. Q.E.D. :)
Pussy Galore
01-25-15, 03:37 PM
Also, how can you objectively judge of a quality movie? What is the standard, the things we base ourselves on to decide which is better, maybe there is, but I wouldn't know how.
Also, how can you objectively judge of a quality movie?
You can't. Quality is subjective, too.
Miss. Vicky said in the What You're Watching Tonight thread that she's was going to watch Mononoke because everyone wanted her to and someone said it was a hint that film was high on the list.
I'm sorry if I was selfish or something.
9 is high on the list, PM and Spirited away are actually the only two non English language films to make the top 10 in any of these countdowns. Spirited Away wont be number one it'll be 4 or 5.
Erasmus Folly
01-25-15, 03:54 PM
Actually quality is by definition objective.
Not when applied to art.
I don't know who 'Art' is but a lot of people are taking his name in vain. :cool:
Cobpyth
01-25-15, 04:02 PM
I don't know who 'Art' is but a lot of people are taking his name in vain. :cool:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6bZlWnHot5g/TrX_xv9zdVI/AAAAAAAAIY8/GpU8OOJ3kxo/s1600/Art%2BGarfunkel%2B3.jpg
Erasmus Folly
01-25-15, 04:09 PM
Don't forget that a lot of the Disney classic films were pushing the technical bounds of animation back in the days they were made. They can't be dismissed as mere childrens animations. Snow White is an incredible film for 1937 - people were gobsmacked when they went to the cinema, I know that from stories from my own family.
What Christine said. Without Bambi and Snow White were would animation be today? The current practitioners of animation 'stand upon the shoulders of giants'. I think that the animators at Pixar and Miyazaki would place Bambi and early Disney very high on their lists if they were voting.
Erasmus Folly
01-25-15, 04:17 PM
Don't know how well known of a fact this is but Nemo is Latin for No one so its funny the title is Finding No One.
Nemo is also the name of the Captain of the Nautilus in Jules Verne's Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea.
hello101
01-25-15, 04:28 PM
Finding Nemo is good, didn't make my list.
Miss Vicky
01-25-15, 04:40 PM
Miss. Vicky said in the What You're Watching Tonight thread that she's was going to watch Mononoke because everyone wanted her to and someone said it was a hint that film was high on the list.
I'm sorry if I was selfish or something.
What I said was "the things I do for you people" and then somebody assumed that it meant the movie had placed high on the countdown (which #9 is pretty damn high). I never implied that it was number one. :shrug:
I think it was pretty much a given from the start that Ghibli films, especially those by Miyazaki, would do well but it seems strange to assume that Mononoke would even rank the highest of the Miyazaki films.
Personally I think the list is fine as of now. However, I will be slightly mad if Spirited Away isn't #1 considering the fact Mononoke, the film I personally thought would win, didn't.
There's no way Spirited Away will the the 1st one. Up most likely will be it.
I had Finding Nemo on my 20th, it's a very nostalgic film for me and it's always so fun and entretaining to watch. Even sad at times. The colors are so vivid, just like Ratatouille which did not make my list just because I couldn't watch it on time. In fact I saw it yesterday and I loved it, I'll soon rate it.
rauldc14
01-25-15, 08:38 PM
What a run for The Lion King by the way.
Prediction
5. The Lion King
4. Wall E
3. Spirited Away
2. Toy Story
1. Up
Cobpyth
01-25-15, 09:05 PM
What I hope:
1. Spirited Away
2. The Lion King
3. Wall-E
4. Up
5. Toy Story
What I expect:
1. Up
2. Wall-E
3. Spirited Away
4. Toy Story
5. The Lion King
Sexy Celebrity
01-25-15, 09:07 PM
If Toy Story 3 is #10, Toy Story is either #1 or #2.
Remember -- for the '70s Countdown, The Godfather Part II was #10 and The Godfather was #1.
Cobpyth
01-25-15, 09:12 PM
I think the votes are more spread over the three films this time. Toy Story is also not that popular as The Godfather or LOTR.
I could be wrong, but that's how I see it.
Arcanis
01-25-15, 10:07 PM
Monsters Inc and Ratatouille are both fine films, but always struck me as lesser Pixar efforts. They're mot ones that I'll put on to watch, but won't mind others starting up while I'm around.
Finding Nemo is another matter entirely. It's not just my favorite Pixar, but my favorite animated film overall. It has a fantastic story, great dialog, great cast and of course phenomenal animation. It's honestly one that I can't get enough of.
Thursday Next
01-26-15, 06:49 AM
I have some issues with Finding Emo so it wasn't on my list, although it is a well made film. I had 3 Pixar films on my list in total and they've all shown up now.
teeter_g
01-26-15, 09:00 AM
1
2
3
4 The Fox and the Hound
5 The Nightmare Before Christmas
6
7 Aladdin
8
9
10 Surfs Up
11
12
13
14
15 All Dogs Go To Heaven
16
17 How to Train Your Dragon
18 Finding Nemo
19 Monsters Inc.
20
21
22
23 Hercules
24
25 Bevis and Butt-head Do America
Miss Vicky
01-26-15, 11:05 AM
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The Lion King
(Roger Allers and Rob Minkoff, 1994)
Rank: 5 / Score: 584 points
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Miss Vicky
01-26-15, 11:05 AM
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5. The Lion King - Voting Stats
Total Points: 584
Part of a Numeric Tie? No.
38 Votes: 1st Place (25 pts.), Two 2nd Place (24 pts. each), Three 3rd Place (23 pts. each), Five 4th Place (22 pts. each), Three 5th Place (21 pts. each), 6th Place (20 pts.), 7th Place (19 pts.), Two 8th Place (18 pts. each), Two 9th Place (17 pts. each), Two 10th Place (16 pts. each), Two 11th Place (15 pts. each), 12th Place (14 pts.), 13th Place (13 pts.), Two 15th Place (11 pts. each), 16th Place (10 pts.), 17th Place (9 pts.), 18th Place (8 pts.), 20th Place (6 pts.), Two 22nd Place (4 pts. each), 23rd Place (3 pts.), Two 24th Place (2 pts. each), Two 25th Place (1 pt. each)
The Rodent
01-26-15, 11:09 AM
My #9 pick. Great movie.
01.
02.
03.
04.
05. Dumbo (1941) - 49th
06.
07. Coraline (2009) - 36th
08. Beavis And Butt-Head Do America (1996) - 66th
09. The Lion King (1994) - 5th
10.
11. Aladdin (1992) - 15th
12. Monsters Inc. (2001) - 7th
13. Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs (1937) - 31st
14. Shrek (2001) - 21st
15. Finding Nemo (2003) - 6th
16. The Simpsons Movie (2007) - 51st
17. Watership Down (1978) - 75th
18. The Iron Giant (1999) - 22nd
19.
20. Fantasia (1940) - 20th
21. A Scanner Darkly (2006) - 47th
22. Akira (1988) - 29th
23.
24.
25. Alice In Wonderland (1951) - 33rd
Miss Vicky
01-26-15, 11:12 AM
I've never liked The Lion King. It had the misfortune of being released when I was 13 and very much in my "animation sucks" phase. But also I've always found the songs to be really, really annoying and that didn't change when I rewatched it a couple of months ago.
The Gunslinger45
01-26-15, 11:17 AM
The Last of my list to show up. Had it at 25.
1. Frozen
2. South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut
3. The Little Mermaid
4. Sleeping Beauty
5. Heavy Metal
6. No show
7. Aladdin
8. No show
9. Beauty and the Beast
10. Fantasia
11. Fantastic Planet
12. No show
13. Bevis and Butthead Do America
14. No show
15. No show
16. The Nightmare before Christmas
17. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
18. Snow White and the Seven Dwarves
19. Alice in Wonderland (1951)
20. No show
21. Bambi
22. No show
23. The Lady and the Tramp
24. No show
25. The Lion King
gbgoodies
01-26-15, 11:37 AM
The Lion King is a great movie, but it didn't make my list. It was in one of my final rounds of cuts due to too many Disney movies.
The Lion King and Finding Nemo are just not my type of flicks. They most certainly did not make my list, that's for sure! If I am watching an animated film and I hear tuba music and then a little character pops out of the shrubs and starts singing a little ditty, I have taken a wrong turn somewhere, and I generally stop the journey right there. Nemo was fairly entertaining and only mildly annoying, but again, had no chance of making my list. I have never seen Monsters Inc.
These flicks just aren't anywhere near engaging enough for me when compared to something like Perfect Blue or Serial Experiments : Lain. That's just my taste, I guess!
Quite excited to see Lion King this high. I wish Aladdin was up here with it but we can't have it all. I love the characters and the songs. It probably also was responsible for me becoming a big Elton John fan. I went and saw him in concert with Billy Joel the summer Lion King was released. Of course he sang the songs from the movie and clips were going on the big screen. Went and saw it as soon as it was released. Good times. Might be some nostalgia there. The movie holds up for me though. I have watched it a bunch since. My kids don't like it which is kind of a bummer. Lion King was my #3.
Daniel M
01-26-15, 12:02 PM
About time... :p
MovieMeditation
01-26-15, 12:16 PM
Together with the following films - Toy Story 1 and 2, Robin Hood and The Iron Giant - The Lion King really helped shape my childhood and the many viewing habits I had. I wore out all the VHS-tapes of those films. :p It's probably the most nostalgic pick on my list too, although the Toy Story-series and The Iron Giant both made my list - and the former even higher than TLK.
I had The Lion King at #10...
rauldc14
01-26-15, 12:30 PM
I had Lion King at Number 6. The best of the Disney Renaissance films in my opinion.
Here's my list thus far:
Top 25 Animated
1.
2. Finding Nemo
3.
4. Ratatouille
5.
6. The Lion King
7. Aladdin
8. Fantastic Planet
9. My Neighbor Totoro
10. Brave Little Toaster - Near Miss
11. Mary and Max
12. Alice in Wonderland
13. Grave of the Fireflies
14.The Incredibles
15.
16. Pinocchio
17. Shrek
18. Charlottes Web
19. Shrek 2
20. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
21.
22. Castle in the Sky
23.
24.
25.
Holden Pike
01-26-15, 01:20 PM
I like the Toy Story movies, but I didn't vote for any of them, figuring they didn't need my help (and they didn't). If I had included them, the third entry would have been higher than the other two on my list. But all three are terrific. Monsters, Inc. was definitely on my list! To date it remains my favorite PIXAR film, just ahead of The Incredibles. Side-splittingly funny and endlessly clever, YES, but of course with that PIXAR heart, as well. Scaring/laughing up a top ten finish works for me.
Since we know what the collective top four are and are only waiting on the order, here are the four remaining titles from my list that did not make the top hundred...
HOLDEN'S FULL LIST
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1. Waltz with Bashir (#26)
2. Fantastic Mr. Fox (#17)
3. "One Froggy Evening" (1955)
4. The Wrong Trousers (#35)
5. A Town Called Panic (#76)
6. The Lego Movie (#32)
7. The Illusionist (#60)
8. Alice in Wonderland (#33)
9. Persepolis (#28)
10 Akira (#29)
11. Idiots and Angels (2008)
12. Coraline (#36)
13. Animal Farm (#89)
14. Monsters, Inc. (#7)
15. Yellow Submarine (#62)
16. The Incredibles (#11)
17. Harvie Krumpet (2003)
18. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1977)
19. Watership Down (#75)
20. Waking Life (#41)
21. South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut (#25)
22. How to Train Your Dragon (#19)
23. Sleeping Beauty (#54)
24. "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" (#42)
25. Hugo the Hippo (DNP)
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The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
1977, John Lounsbery and Wolfgang Reitherman
As should be clear by now, I rather despise the compilation The Bugs Bunny/Road Runner Movie because it takes some of the greatest Looney Tunes shorts of all time and edits them, needlessly. Here, the Disney people blend the three existing Pooh shorts in their entirety, plus connecting material done in the same style, and ending with the emotional final chapter from The House at Pooh Corner. After Walt Disney acquired the Milne books, he initially wanted to bring them to life as a feature. He ultimately decided that shorts would be a better way to introduce audiences, especially American audiences, to the characters and A.A. Milne’s style. The animation echoes the illustrations from the books, those wonderfully cast voices that became instantly and indelibly linked to those characters, especially Sterling Halloway as Pooh, Paul Winchell as Tigger, and John Fiedler's Piglet, great music and songs, and the spirit of Milne make them timeless. The original shorts were Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree (1966), Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day (1968), and Winnie the Pooh and Tigger Too! (1974). All of them classics, and all blended perfectly and added to for the 1977 feature.
How this one didn't make enough of your lists really puzzles and saddens me? Oh, bother, Mutherfu*kers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NitBpJaom5k
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"One Froggy Evening"
1955, Chuck Jones
Speaking of those bastardized votes for The Bugs Bunny/Road Runner Movie, only one individual WB short made the top hundred, and that was the anarchical and fourth-wall destroying ”Duck Amuck”, by the ever immortal Chuck Jones. Chuck had his TV special ”How the Grinch Stole Christmas” make the list as well, and of course he had many of the pieces in Bugs Bunny/Road Runner. But he could have - and damn well should have - had at least half a dozen of his shorts make the cut. The one I voted for, the one that I think it ridiculously clever and hysterical and weird and perfect, is ”One Froggy Evening” (1955). Debuting theatrically on New Year’s Eve of 1956, it has the wit of an O. Henry story, with the deadpan subtlety and comic timing of the masters, delivers a winning combination of hubris and pathos, that delightful frustration, and all perfectly realized by Chuck Jones, who of course was working here without established and beloved characters or even dialogue, save the singing, but instead created a one-off confection that is surely happily burned into the memories and souls of all who see it.
The United States Library of Congress preserved it in the National Film Registry, deeming it "culturally significant". Steven Spielberg called it “the Citizen Kane of animated films”. The 1994 survey done for the book The 50 Greatest Cartoons: As Selected by 1,000 Animation Professionals had "One Froggy Evening" as number five, all time, behind three other Chuck Jones WB entries and one early Disney.
And did MoFo vote for it? But NoOooOOooOooo.
http://vimeo.com/46018110
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Idiots & Angels
2008, Bill Plymton
I honestly didn’t expect anybody else to vote for this one, just because it is relatively obscure and relatively weird. But I think it is Bill Plympton’s best, most complete work. Plympton is best known, if he is known at all, for his shorts. He has two Oscar nominations in that category, including for his influential ”Your Face” (1987), which got him a ton of work in advertising and for outlets such as MTV. But he has made features, and Idiots & Angels is a magnum opus, incorporating all of the best ideas and styles from his work, to that point, and presenting it in one bizarre yet personal meditation on the evil that men do. I’d be happily surprised if it got even two other votes, but I couldn’t keep it off of my list just because it was very unlikely to appear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaDvCEL8Dyk
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Harvie Krumpet
2003, Adam Elliot
Unlike the Plympton, I was slightly surprised not to see Harvie Krumpet make the list somewhere. I do like Mary & Max very much, and I kind of figured that would place higher than Harvie, if only because it is similar in many respects, yet is feature length. But I didn’t think little Harvie would get bumped COMPLETELY! Surprised perhaps because I saw it first (and instantly fell in love with it), and maybe because it actually won an Oscar and should have been a little more prominent on the radar of those unfamiliar with it before this poll? But I really expected this one to show. Oh, well. I hope its exclusion was mostly just a lack of space on lists thing and not a lack of appreciation. And that’s a fakt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouyVS6HOFeo
So I had twenty of my twenty-five show. Not bad, and I’ll take it. But I hope some of you check out Bill Plympton’s work, or re-familiarize yourselves with it. And I hope that in the future, wherever it may come up, that not so many of you vote for expurgated versions of classic Warner Brothers shorts rather than the full, perfect originals. Lastly, I really hope a lot of you feel like genuine A-holes for not including The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh on your lists. Because you are. A-holes.
That is all.
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I had The Lion King at #20. It's solid entertainment for everyone. We're not talking about The Power Puff Girls here. :) We're talking about Hamlet, whether you've got singing animals sometimes. I watched it last week and found it wonderful.
Arcanis
01-26-15, 02:15 PM
The Lion King was probably my favorite movie growing up and is my girlfriend's favorite movie still. It's my second favorite adaptation of Hamlet (loose though it may be) and just barely missed out of my current top 100 movies list. As it currently stands, it's my second favorite film of the Disney Reneissance and my eighth favorite animated film overall.
The Lion King
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Rewatched it before sending my list in and didn't care for it. Parts of it are really well done like the wildebeest stampede and Mufasa's death, but overall its a bit of a mess. I didn't care for the songs, most of the characters were dull, and the balance of comedy and drama is even worse here than in Disney's Hunchback (though I am rather fond of Hunchback despite it flaws.) I loved it as a kid but it doesn't hold up at all.
Thursday Next
01-26-15, 05:32 PM
I confess The Lion King's appeal has always mystified me.
I was sad that Harvie Krumpet didn't make the list, too. It was my #18. I guess not enough of us had it high enough.
Cobpyth
01-26-15, 05:37 PM
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Idiots & Angels
2008, Bill Plymton
I honestly didn’t expect anybody else to vote for this one, just because it is relatively obscure and relatively weird. But I think it is Bill Plympton’s best, most complete work. Plympton is best known, if he is known at all, for his shorts. He has two Oscar nominations in that category, including for his influential ”Your Face” (1987), which got him a ton of work in advertising and for outlets such as MTV. But he has made features, and Idiots & Angels is a magnum opus, incorporating all of the best ideas and styles from his work, to that point, and presenting it in one bizarre yet personal meditation on the evil that men do. I’d be happily surprised if it got even two other votes, but I couldn’t keep it off of my list just because it was very unlikely to appear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaDvCEL8Dyk
Yeah, too bad that film is so obscure. It's absolutely brilliant. It was my number 10. Breathtakingly animated, very engaging and truly memorable. Plympton is a genius.
christine
01-26-15, 06:04 PM
Not seen The Lion King
Miss Vicky
01-27-15, 12:21 PM
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WALL·E
(Andrew Stanton, 2008)
Rank: 4 / Score: 658 points
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Miss Vicky
01-27-15, 12:21 PM
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4. WALL·E - Voting Stats
Total Points: 658
Part of a Numeric Tie? No.
38 Votes: Three 1st Place (25 pts. each), Three 2nd Place (24 pts. each), Three 3rd Place (23 pts. each), Two 4th Place (22 pts. each), Four 5th Place (21 pts. each), Two 6th Place (20 pts. each), Three 8th Place (18 pts. each), 9th Place (17 pts.), 10th Place (16 pts.), Four 11th Place (15 pts. each), Three 12th Place (14 pts. each), Three 14th Place (12 pts. each), Two 15th Place (11 pts. each), Two 16th Place (10 pts. each), 20th Place (6 pts.), 25th Place (1 pt.)
Daniel M
01-27-15, 12:24 PM
WALL·E was my number eleven, its a fantastic film for many reasons, and artistically I think it's one of Disney's best, love the attention to detail and Sci-Fi setting. Has a great sense of humour and one of the most unusual but touching love stories of any animation.
Spirited Away fans have to be pretty pumped. Top three at the least.
I've never been nearly as high on Wall-E as most others, so I'm glad to see it here rather than in one of the top three spots.
I have a weird reaction to movies like this: on one hand, it's impressive that they manage to create sympathy and pathos for a robot without much in the way of dialogue. On the other hand, it's a self-inflicted restraint that makes deeper feelings impossible (and one could make the argument that in some ways it's easier, because it allows people to read more of what they like into the character). Really good movie, but not a great one, to my mind. Especially when you start layering in film's message, which just isn't up to par with the usual elegance and subtlety you expect from the studio (the live action Fred Willard stuff, in particular, is pretty hammy).
Cobpyth
01-27-15, 12:38 PM
Spirited Away fans have to be pretty pumped. Top three at the least.
I want it at number 1. I think it has a very good chance.
The Gunslinger45
01-27-15, 12:40 PM
Never saw Wall-e
I want it at number 1. I think it has a very good chance.
Spoiler Alert: I gave it some points and more points then one of the other two.
Cobpyth
01-27-15, 12:43 PM
I gave it 25 points and none to the other two. :cool:
Miss Vicky
01-27-15, 12:43 PM
When I first saw the ads for WALL·E, my immediate reaction was "that thing's a Johnny 5 rip-off, wtf?" I also wasn't so sure about the premise but I had faith in the ability of Pixar to make magic out of anything (and back then that faith was well founded).
They didn't let me down. While Ratatouille impressed with its vivid colors, WALL·E was just as impressive in making a stark, desolate landscape seem just as beautiful. It infuses a unique and incredibly touching romance with a great deal of humor and makes robots seem far more alive than the humans that also inhabit their world.
I had WALL·E at #5.
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My List
2. Ratatouille (#8)
3. Mary and Max. (#23)
4. Wreck-It Ralph (#27)
5. WALL·E (#4)
6. Surf's Up (#99)
7. The Nightmare Before Christmas (#14)
8. Over the Hedge (Near Miss)
9. Chicken Run (#51)
10. Charlotte's Web (#57)
11. Despicable Me (#61)
12. Waltz With Bashir (#26)
16. The Emporer's New Groove (#80)
21. How the Grinch Stole Christmas (#42)
22. Lilo & Stitch (#83)
23. How to Train Your Dragon (#19)
24. Bambi (#50)
Miss Vicky
01-27-15, 12:46 PM
I gave it 25 points and none to the other two. :cool:
I gave it 0 points and 25 points to one of the other two. :p
Arcanis
01-27-15, 01:03 PM
WALL-E is a fantastic film, but suffers from a first half that is monstrously superior to its second half. There's very little that I find exceptional when they reach space and the intimacy of the primary narrative is lost.
cricket
01-27-15, 01:11 PM
I didn't vote for Wall-E but I thought it was pretty good.
I had The Lion King at #15. I'm a sucker for animals in distress movies.
That'll be it for me.
My list-
1. Ratatouille*
3. Rango
4. How to Train Your Dragon
5. Persepolis
6. Grave of the Fireflies
7. Animal Farm
8. Wreck-It Ralph
9. Fantastic Mr. Fox
10. Waltz with Bashir
11. The Plague Dogs
12. The Incredibles
13. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
14. Mary and Max
15. The Lion King
16. The Wind Rises
17. Pinocchio
18. Charlotte's Web
19. Kung Fu Panda
20. A Town Called Panic
21. Fantastic Planet
24. The Adventures of Prince Achmed (Near miss)
25. How the Grinch Stole Christmas
Daniel M
01-27-15, 01:15 PM
I didn't vote for Wall-E but I thought it was pretty good.
I had The Lion King at #15. I'm a sucker for animals in distress movies.
That'll be it for me.
What was your number two then?
Harry Lime
01-27-15, 01:17 PM
So much better than Up. Stupid balloons.
cricket
01-27-15, 01:18 PM
What was your number two then?
How to Train Your Dragon 2
And I also missed with Wrinkles and Felidae.
Daniel M
01-27-15, 01:20 PM
I though it might have been, it seems like your kind of movie, especially as you had the first at #4, quite a bit darker than the first I thought.
cricket
01-27-15, 01:22 PM
I though it might have been, it seems like your kind of movie, especially as you had the first at #4, quite a bit darker than the first I thought.
Yea I think it missed just because it's so new.
Harry Lime
01-27-15, 01:24 PM
It "missed" because it's not that good.
So much better than Up. Stupid balloons.
I will murder you to death.
The Rodent
01-27-15, 01:50 PM
WALL-E was my #6
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05. Dumbo (1941) - 49th
06. WALL-E (2008) - 4th
07. Coraline (2009) - 36th
08. Beavis And Butt-Head Do America (1996) - 66th
09. The Lion King (1994) - 5th
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11. Aladdin (1992) - 15th
12. Monsters Inc. (2001) - 7th
13. Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs (1937) - 31st
14. Shrek (2001) - 21st
15. Finding Nemo (2003) - 6th
16. The Simpsons Movie (2007) - 51st
17. Watership Down (1978) - 75th
18. The Iron Giant (1999) - 22nd
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20. Fantasia (1940) - 20th
21. A Scanner Darkly (2006) - 47th
22. Akira (1988) - 29th
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