The MoFo Millenium Top 100 Countdown

[Miss Vicky]

I sincerely hope you're wrong, TN.
There are only handful of my choices on that list.

[Skepsis93]

I wouldn't be too opposed to that list, TN. Quite a few of my choices.

[Thursday Next]

I know some people really, really like The Fountain. But I don't know if they voted.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Only 1 of the films I put in my top 25 made the list so far. About time I start rigging this.

I would!

[wintertriangles]

I know some people really, really like The Fountain. But I don't know if they voted.The only thing going for it is that you can't downvote a movie.

[donniedarko]

A lot of people love it on this site, it seems to be way less acclaimed by others, I think it'll make it on the next set in fact

[Sexy Celebrity]

My turn... BOLDS were on my list, of course.

100. The Bourne Identity
99. Iron Man 5
98. Hedwig and the Angry Inch 4
97. Black Dynamite
96. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
95. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
94. Brotherhood of the Wolf
93. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
92. Rise of the Planet of the Apes
91. American Splendor 5
90. Spider-Man 2 5
89. The Darjeeling Limited 3.5
88. The Artist
87. Good Night, and Good Luck
86. Quills
85. The Help 4.5
84. Lars and the Real Girl 4.5
83. Monsters, Inc. 4
82. Once
81. The Wrestler
80. Requiem for a Dream
79. Synecdoche, New York 5
78. Traffic
77. King Kong
76. Brokeback Mountain 5
75. Brick
74. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl 1
73. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring
72. Gangs of New York
71. Sunshine
70. Man on Fire
69. Gladiator
68. Hero
67. Road to Perdition
66. Gone Baby Gone 4
65. The Three Burials of Melquiadas Estrada
64. Gran Torino
63. Signs 5
62. Tree of Life
61. True Grit
60. Sideways 4
59. Werckmeister Harmonies
58. Million Dollar Baby
57. The Incredibles 4
56. Sin City 4
55. Adaptation 5
54. American Psycho 3.5
53. Juno 4
52. Crash
51. Batman Begins 4

Some of these I haven't seen in years and all I really have is a memory of really liking it. I gave them 4's. Obviously, there's quite a bit I still need to watch... or finish watching as I've seen some of the movie, but not all of it. I italicized movies I watched some of to indicate that I gave them a try, at least.

[Yoda]

The only thing going for it is that you can't downvote a movie.
Agreed. Not agreed in the sense that I don't like The Fountain, agreed in the sense that the voting structure lends itself a little to more polarizing films, since the people who like The Fountain tend to really like it.

[Godoggo]

Thursday predicted five of my movies. I'm really hoping that two she didn't mention make it.

[rauldc14]

I'd love to see 21 Grams, but I don't think it has much a following.

[Brodinski]

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# 50
Solaris
(2002, Soderbergh)

65 points

[Brodinski]

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# 49
Drive
(2011, Winding Refn)

66 points

[Brodinski]

We're half way there:

100. The Bourne Identity
99. Iron Man
98. Hedwig and the Angry Inch
97. Black Dynamite
96. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
95. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
94. Brotherhood of the Wolf
93. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
92. Rise of the Planet of the Apes
91. American Splendor
90. Spider-Man 2
89. The Darjeeling Limited
88. The Artist
87. Good Night, and Good Luck
86. Quills
85. The Help
84. Lars and the Real Girl
83. Monsters, Inc.
82. Once
81. The Wrestler
80. Requiem for a Dream
79. Synecdoche, New York
78. Traffic
77. King Kong
76. Brokeback Mountain
75. Brick
74. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
73. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring
72. Gangs of New York
71. Sunshine
70. Man on Fire
69. Gladiator
68. Hero
67. Road to Perdition
66. Gone Baby Gone
65. The Three Burials of Melquiadas Estrada
64. Gran Torino
63. Signs
62. Tree of Life
61. True Grit
60. Sideways
59. Werckmeister Harmonies
58. Million Dollar Baby
57. The Incredibles
56. Sin City
55. Adaptation
54. American Psycho
53. Juno
52. Crash
51. Batman Begins
50. Solaris

[Thursday Next]

Ha, wrong already! (Although I had Drive at like 51 on my list of predictions).

I didn't realise the Solaris remake was so popular.

[donniedarko]

Solaris? I haven't seen it but haven't heard anything but hate about the remake on this site

I love Drive, it was number 20 on my list and would probably be higher now, a bit surprised to see it on so high, pleasantly surprised

[Sexy Celebrity]

I didn't think about Drive being on this list, but I'm not surprised after seeing it. It's a good movie.

[wintertriangles]

Solaris? I haven't seen it but haven't heard anything but hate about the remake on this siteAnd we're just being nice. It's garbage. Whoever voted for it had it at #1 to get it this high

[HitchFan97]

Solaris is a shocker. Not surprised to see Drive on here, I really need to watch that one.

[Daniel M]

I haven't seen Solaris and I am yet to see a single person that has liked it, didn't realise we had members around here that liked it so much to be honest.

Glad Drive is on the list, kind of expected it to be and it's in a good position as well, a great film and definitely one of my recent favourites.

[donniedarko]

If solaris came in in the first ten I could understand, but top 50?

[rauldc14]

Well, whoever voted for it needs to let us know:p

[wintertriangles]

I have a feeling it was Yoda

[Godoggo]

Haven't seen Solaris; didn't care that much for Drive.

[Yoda]

Wasn't me.

[Miss Vicky]

I've not seen Solaris and had no idea it was so popular.

I tried watching Drive one time, but I quickly became bored and didn't stick with it.

[honeykid]

Is Yoda, Shaggy?

[Godoggo]

It took me forever to figure out what you were talking about. :p

[honeykid]

I did think about embeding a clip... Then I thought "nah", if no one gets it then so be it. :D

[TheUsualSuspect]

Yay for Drive.

Yawn for Solaris.

[TylerDurden99]

I'm not a fan of Soderbergh's Solaris (vastly preferred the original). Drive, on the other hand, is a fantastic film, had it at #6 on my list.

[gandalf26]

Show Yourself fans of Solaris!

[Thursday Next]

So nobody's owning up to voting for Solaris, then?

[The Rodent]

Nnnnnnope.

[rauldc14]

Very weird that only 1 person positively repped it? I would highly doubt that Brod's had it on his list, either.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I watched Solaris once but I did not vote for it. I didn't hate it. For one thing, it has George Clooney naked in it.

[Skepsis93]

I think we have a conspiracy on our hands.

[Exist]

Haven't seen Solaris; didn't care that much for Drive.

In all truth, I didn't either except for Albert Brooks, seeing him like that! Holy %^$#

[Miss Vicky]

it has George Clooney naked in it.

Ew.

[Brodinski]

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# 48
Battle Royale
(2000, Fukasaku)

66 points

[Brodinski]

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# 47
Moon
(2009, Jones)

67 points

[The Rodent]

Haven't seen Moon but Battle Royale rocks.

[Skepsis93]

Yay! Three of my choices now.

I've had Moon lying around for ages but I haven't seen it yet.

[Daniel M]

Seen Battle Royale, was a while ago though and I really need to give it a rewatch considering I can not remember hardly any of the plot just the violence involved, was a really great and powerful film though, not surprised it's up here.

As a big fan of Kevin Spacey I should probably try and watch Moon soon as well.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Moon?!

I've seen Moon. It SUCKED.

This list is starting to get really bad. It was really good, but now
it's gone to Hell. At this point, I'd totally believe it if
Charlie's Angels came in 1st.

There is no way that Moon deserves to be this high,
but I guess it has happened....

[rauldc14]

I have to wonder now whether some films I thought were shoo-ins to make it are actually going to. It's getting to the point where I thought there wouldn't be many more surprises.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Both GREAT films, love both.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Moon was very boring. Like Solaris, another boring outer space movie, its biggest positive was the fact that you see the lead actor - this time, Sam Rockwell - butt naked.

[wintertriangles]

Both should be higher

[Skepsis93]

Also just saw American Psycho - really good movie, deserves to be here.

[Godoggo]

I like Battle Royale a lot. Moon is a decent movie, but not one I'm overly crazy about.

[donniedarko]

Moon, cool. Didn't make my list but it's a good move, not shocking, but inresting, preferred it to Source Code

Haven't seem Battle Royal

[Thursday Next]

I didn't vote for Battle Royale but I like it a lot. Moon is one I've been meaning to see, but haven't got round to yet.

[gandalf26]

BattleRoyale missed my vote by a whisker but it is one of the great films of the Millenium, no question.

Haven't seen Moon or heard of Moon.

I was kinda expecting bigger, or more well known films to start appearing at this point ish.

[honeykid]

At this point, I'd totally believe it if
Charlie's Angels came in 1st.

There's no way you guys are that cool.

Glad to see Battle Royale. That's the fourth choice to appear from my list. At this rate, I'll do better than I thought.

[JayDee]

Just noticed we're still only at 67 points. All it would have taken would have been myself and a couple of other anarchists to band together and completely f**k this up! :D We could have had Norbit, Deuce Bigalow: European Gigalow and Gigli all in the top 50. :p


Only seen Battle Royale once but remember finding it pretty awesome. Definitely due a rewatch very soon. Picked Moon up as a blind buy DVD a while back but still not watched it.


Brodinski - Time for you to name and shame the Solaris lovers! :D

[TylerDurden99]

I repped the Solaris post, but I didn't vote for it.

Used Future, maybe?

[Miss Vicky]

Haven't seen either.

Well one thing that can be said for this list: It's unpredictable.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Moon, cool. Didn't make my list but it's a good move, not shocking, but inresting, preferred it to Source Code

I heartily disagree! And yes, Source Code stars Jake Gyllenhaal, but still, even if somebody else played his role, I'd still think it was a better movie. I had Source Code at #20 on my list because for some G-DAMNED REASON a part of my psyche thinks Hedwig deserves the #2 spot instead. Source Code isn't gonna be on this list. It's the better movie. It doesn't end on the right note, though -- that's it's only big flaw. But it still ends the right way, story wise. Just isn't played right.

[Thursday Next]

Just noticed we're still only at 67 points. All it would have taken would have been myself and a couple of other anarchists to band together and completely f**k this up! :D We could have had Norbit, Deuce Bigalow: European Gigalow and Gigli all in the top 50. :p


We still might, the way this list is going.

[honeykid]

... for some G-DAMNED REASON a part of my psyche thinks Hedwig deserves the #2 spot instead.
Probably the best decision you made all year.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Probably the best decision you made all year.

No, it wasn't. I'm glad it's on the list, but what a strange thing I did.

[Thursday Next]

Just watched Werckmeister Harmonies, an extraordinary film, definitely one of the best and most interesting films of the millennium.

[Tyler1]

Just watched Werckmeister Harmonies, an extraordinary film, definitely one of the best and most interesting films of the millennium.
Hurrah!

[donniedarko]

Watched Battle Royal, f*cking awesome!

[donniedarko]

Movies, donniedarkos ready for the movies

[Brodinski]

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# 46
Kill Bill: Volume 1
(2004, Tarantino)

67 points

[Brodinski]

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# 45
Ghost World
(2001, Zwigoff)

67 points

[JayDee]

Not seen either of those yet, though I have been meaning to. Ghost World in particular is one I've been meaning to watch for absolute years.

[donniedarko]

I really liked Kill Bill (Vol 1 & 2), slightly preferred one. It was slightly off of making my list.
Haven't seen Ghost World

[rauldc14]

I'm very very befuddled. There's going to be some good films left off this list. I did a count and figured there were 40 shoo-ins but we are getting close to that number in itself.

[Brodinski]

I'm very very befuddled. There's going to be some good films left off this list. I did a count and figured there were 40 shoo-ins but we are getting close to that number in itself.

And what would those shoo-ins be?

[HitchFan97]

Both Kill Bills were on my list, Vol. 1 was higher. Glad to see it here :yup:

[rauldc14]

And what would those shoo-ins be?

Prestige
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Memento
Inception
Mulholland Drive
No Country for Old Men
Social Network
Zodiac
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
Spirited Away
Up
Ratatouille
Wall E
City of God
The Departed
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Amelie
Lost in Translation
Mystic River
Royal Tenenbaums
Donnie Darko
The Pianist
Inglorious Basterds
Little Miss Sunshine
There will be Blood
Pan's Labyrinth
The Lives of Others
Oldboy
Black Swan
Let the Right One In
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
In the Mood for Love

That's 35. So maybe I lied a bit:p. Not that I like or have seen all of the above. But I would be shocked if any of those were left off.

[Yoda]

I think a couple of LOTRs will be left off; TT, for example, seems likely.

But I actually think a really solid chunk of those are going to make it on there.

[Skepsis93]

I had Vol. 1 on my list somewhere.

I really disliked Ghost World.

[donniedarko]

Batman Begins
This already made it


Social Network
Wall E
Royal Tenenbaums
Little Miss Sunshine
The Lives of Others
Let the Right One In
In the Mood for Love

And these have a pretty good chance to be left out.

[Skepsis93]

There's no way Wall-E isn't gonna be on here. I would hope The Social Network, Let the Right One In and Little Miss Sunshine make it, too, but maybe they won't.

[JayDee]

Yeah of those you list DD Wall-e is the one that definitely jumps out. I'd be shocked and absolutely dismayed if that didn't make it. Never mind make it, I'm hoping at least top 20.

[Yoda]

I sure hope The Lives of Others makes it, but yeah, I'm a little afraid it won't.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Oh, dear. Ghost World is here. That was my #1 movie. I should do a writeup... I watched it a few times again recently. I wasn't expecting it to be here already. Will think about what to say. Glad it made it.

I had Volume 2 of Kill Bill on my list. I love the first movie, but I think the 2nd volume is much better.

[Daniel M]

Both Kill Bill films are great, whilst I think the second is slightly stronger in terms of substance the first volume is great action filled fun.

I'll be honest I had not even heard of Ghost World.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Who else besides me voted for Ghost World?

[Miss Vicky]

I hated Kill Bill. I hated everything about it. The acting, the stupid animated sequences, the story, the over the top effects. Everything.

Ghost World is awesome. I didn't vote for it, but it barely got beat out of making it on my list.

[Sexy Celebrity]

That is one thing I don't like about Kill Bill: Volume 1. The waste of time with that animated sequence involving the origins of O-Ren.

[Godoggo]

Ghost World is number 11 on my list. Glad it made it. I like Kill Bill, but not on my list.

[Godoggo]

I like the animated sequence. It's one of my favorite parts.

[wintertriangles]

I like the animated sequence. It's one of my favorite parts.Indeed.

[Sexy Celebrity]

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Ghost World...
Well, I am surprised myself that I picked Ghost World as my #1 movie on the list. Perhaps I was just trying to give it some much needed points. I seem to have succeeded. To think about why I put it at #1, I actually watched Ghost World again, TWICE, last month, in a row. I did not regret my decision after doing this.

I saw this movie when I was 18 or 19, which is basically the same age as the two lead female characters in this movie, Enid (Thora Birch) and Rebecca (Scarlett Johansson). I really related to this movie. At the time, I was involved - or had been involved - romantically - with this man who was twenty years older than me. In Ghost World, Enid attaches herself to this man - Seymour (played by Steve Buscemi) - who's probably around twenty years older than her, too. So, I totally lived an Enid-like existence right after high school, complete with the fascination with lonely, frustrated men holed up in some apartment somewhere. In other ways, I think Enid and I are a lot alike, too. She takes a simple art class to make up for a bad high school grade in the film -- it reminds me of the fact that I actually took a beginner's art class during my senior year of high school. She's fascinated with strange people - ordinary people - people nobody else notices. Again, so am I. I just don't dress like her or anything like that, but Enid and I are definitely from the same cloth. I actually did later on meet someone who reminded me a lot of Enid, both mentally and physically. Very cool woman whom I no longer know.

Ghost World is a movie about passion. It's about cherishing things when under the pressure of succumbing to more banal circumstances. Ghost World is right at the center of the ebb and flow of life. It is the hub of experience. The style is both obnoxiously ridiculous and droll and basic. I think it could even be explained as a sort of modern day, original blend of Alice in Wonderland. Thora Birch is Alice and she must grow up. She travels through a world of odd creatures -- her art teacher, played by Illeana Douglas (a goddess, I must say); Seymour; the shirtless muscular wacko at the convenience store; the guy waiting for the bus; the Weird Al waiter; the Satanists; the porno store full of creeps; the disabled girl giving the graduation speech; Maxine (Teri Garr); and others.

Alice, reborn as Enid, isn't prim and proper -- she's freaky and artistic. Seymour is the White Rabbit -- fussy, ready to take on appointments and dates, and moving along too fast. Enid follows him, stalks him, befriends him, and suddenly she's in for the long haul. After some odd little adventures, we are left with what appears to be a complete closure of this little Wonderland we've been witnessing as Enid becomes a symbol of mystery -- and instead of her waking up -- we do. Ghost World isn't a dream. God knows what it really is. It's not our own world and it's not a fantasy. But it's a wonderland. It could be a time warp -- as Enid, at one point in the film, states that she feels like she has stepped into one. Ghost World is a space odyssey and the voyage is all about, I think, love. As cheesy as that sounds, I think the movie is about love. Love in its most basic form. The absurdity of love. The struggle to love. The rules of love.

The movie is very deep and very powerful. It arrived on this planet at the perfect time and in the perfect form. If Jesus Christ was a movie, he would be Ghost World. That's why I made it my #1.

[Thursday Next]

I hated Kill Bill Vol. 1 I thought it was truly awful.

Ghost World I only got round to watching recently, but I quite liked it.

[JayDee]

Well, I am surprised myself that I picked Ghost World as my #1 movie on the list.

I love ya Sexy but I've got to ask, have you got multiple personality disorder or something? :p You constantly seem surprised and confused about things you've done, first with Hedwig and now this.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I love ya Sexy but I've got to ask, have you got multiple personality disorder or something? :p You constantly seem surprised and confused about things you've done, first with Hedwig and now this.

Perhaps it's early onset senility or something. I dunno. I have just always had issues with figuring out what my favorite things are. And putting them into groups and orders and lists. It's such a complicated and perhaps unnecessary process. And my thoughts and feelings are constantly changing and evolving, day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute.

[Godoggo]

Perhaps it's early onset senility or something. I dunno. I have just always had issues with figuring out what my favorite things are. And putting them into groups and orders and lists. It's such a complicated and perhaps unnecessary process. And my thoughts and feelings are constantly changing and evolving, day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute.

I can relate to this.

[Sexy Celebrity]

So anyway, poodles, I think this makes EIGHT movies that are on my list and the official MoFo Millennium Top 100 list. Anybody else have eight or more? I feel like I'm winning.

[wintertriangles]

So anyway, poodles, I think this makes EIGHT movies that are on my list and the official MoFo Millennium Top 100 list. Anybody else have eight or more? I feel like I'm winning.Could also mean you're losing depending

[TheUsualSuspect]

Never seen Ghost World, but love Kill Bill

[Sexy Celebrity]

Here's a sort of condensed, 7 minute version of Ghost World if y'all want an idea of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHImoFhq72I

[Gabrielle947]

This is the strangest list I've seen. :D So many different types of films. :)

[Skepsis93]

It's a testament to how good the rest of American Beauty is that it's still one of my favorite movies even though Thora Birch is in it. Ugh. I might've liked Ghost World were it not for her horrible wooden performance.

[Miss Vicky]

I thought Birch's performance was spot on: sarcastic, disillusioned, angsty teenager trying to find herself.

What were you expecting?

[Sexy Celebrity]

You know, I've been one of the biggest supporters of American Beauty around this place and it was at one time my favorite movie... but I've gotta say... I still like that movie, but Ghost World is better. Also, I sorta forgot that Thora Birch was also in American Beauty. She's quite an actress, that Thora Birch.

[Skepsis93]

I thought Birch's performance was spot on: sarcastic, disillusioned, angsty teenager trying to find herself.

What were you expecting?

That, but good.

[Sexy Celebrity]

What made her performance "wooden"?

[Skepsis93]

It feels like she's acting to me. She's not the character, she's Thora Birch playing the character. I know it sounds dumb, but the more I see the character and less the actor, the better the performance is. She doesn't do that for me at all. I guess that's not the correct description of "wooden" but it's the best word I can think of to describe it.

It's difficult to explain why I didn't like it to someone who thinks it's great because you see the stuff that makes me dislike it in a completely different way.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'm not really judgemental of how an actor acts. To me, it's just... should that actor have really played that role? Is there something about the actor that's really turning me off with this role? Are they making me like the movie?

Thora Birch is the best thing about Ghost World. I can't imagine anyone else playing that part and I would still like it as much. I know that's actually hard to say since I can't experience an alternate reality where somebody else did play Enid, but, she really did help the movie that much, in my opinion. And I think she's different in Ghost World than how she is in American Beauty.

Now, let's say, for example, Whoopi Goldberg, Honeykid's sex slave. That woman feels to me like Whoopi Goldberg no matter what she's in. That doesn't mean she's a bad actor, though... right?

[Skepsis93]

Now, let's say, for example, Whoopi Goldberg, Honeykid's sex slave. That woman feels to me like Whoopi Goldberg no matter what she's in. That doesn't mean she's a bad actor, though... right?

Maybe that's because you're seemingly so obsessed with Whoopi Goldberg as a person and that overpowers her characters. :p

Not necessarily a bad actor, but a bad performance. If I see the actor rather than the character, that says to me the performance isn't that good. I don't know if that's different for some people.

With my favorite actors, I always see the character they're playing rather than themselves no matter how many movies I see them in.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I think I can see what you mean about Thora Birch/Enid.

There is something about it that's kind of hard to buy. But, I would counter with that I think most of the characters in Ghost World are off-kilter and kind of unreal. Like I said in my write-up, Ghost World has something about it that's not of reality. It very much could take place in our world and it does, but there is also something fantastical about it. It was based on a comic book, after all.

Enid can seem pretty one note and that, I think, can give off the impression that she's just Thora acting. It's her eccentricities and her softness at times that expands her. For me, that softness about her is also what serves the movie, as I think the movie is about love. Love for the unloved is, I think, a theme for the film. Enid's "wooden" character as you say is something not everybody is going to love. I've shown this movie to people before and I've been stunned by their reactions of, "That is the most awful girl in the world. How could anybody be that way?" They thought it was a joke -- that the movie was simply about parading around Enid for our pleasure of laughing at her instead of actually trying to feel for her. She is not the most common of girls and yeah, it's a little tough to figure out what created her and how she came to be and why she's that way. But she fits with the movie. If anything, the whole movie plays like it's the perception she has of the world she has in her head. So, it could be that the film does take place in the real world, but through the filter of Enid's wacky psyche. Probably why I really like the film -- I, too, can have a wacky psyche.

Ghost World is then like Alice in Wonderland (I mentioned this in my write-up) but told through daydreams rather than being asleep. Perhaps things are being colored more bizarre than they really are. Perhaps Enid herself is shown as more bizarre and stereotypical and one dimensional than she really is.

Let's consider the ending --

The film ends mysteriously as Enid sees a bus - that's supposedly out of service - pick up an old man who's been waiting for the bus throughout the film. Next, we see Enid with bags packed and getting on that bus the next time it comes around. The bus drives away from her little town with Enid in tow. Then the movie just ENDS. Where is Enid is going? What happens to her? WHAT just happened?! There is no official answer given.

People have been speculating about what it means. Some think that it symbolizes the fact that Enid just gave up and committed suicide. Leaving town represents Enid dying. But there really hasn't been anything in the film before it to suggest that it's a suicide themed film, unless you think about how depressed certain characters, like Seymour, are, and then you think, well, she might as well just off herself because she's going to grow up and be the same.

We do know - it is said by her - that Enid wishes to someday leave town and go somewhere random and let people wonder what happened to her. The ending of Ghost World does show us that happening. At least, it suggests it.

But what if she didn't really go anywhere? What if we were again just seeing a fantasy of hers? What if that ending reveals that the movie is nothing but daydreams and fantasies? Now I'm not saying I'm right, but what if the bus - and even Norman - weren't real? Sometimes daydreamers and people who live in their heads will invent people who don't exist. The ending could have been nothing more than Enid, frustrated, ending her "movie" that we're watching with herself taking the bus and getting out of there -- just to do something.

One of the key themes of the movie is about trying to push people into taking some sort of action -- Enid finally, it appears, takes what could be serious action at the end. Though, who knows what happened? She could easily have returned home the very next day. In fact, the only real way to end Ghost World is to make YOU dream up the ending yourself! You write the ending. You finish Enid's character. You give her whatever kind of meaning and representation you want to give her. Thus, if you don't like Enid, you're still forced to deal with her. She collaborates with you -- she starts herself, you finish her. She takes action, you take action.

And another theme -- as Roberta, the art teacher, says to her students -- she wants them to use their art to "externalize the internal." This fits with the daydreaming thing -- Ghost World could very well be Enid's internal world brought out into the external world. The way you interpret the ending can be however you are internally -- those who see Enid committing suicide are probably just more prone to think that way. However you see the film and its ending are based on your own internal prejudices. The movie is about internal prejudices.

[Godoggo]

We should start a Ghost World thread because I would like to discuss some things in your spoilers, but I don't want to communicate through spoilers. :) One thing I will say is that I never felt that first theory to be true.

[Sexy Celebrity]

We should start a Ghost World thread because I would like to discuss some things in your spoilers, but I don't want to communicate through spoilers. :) One thing I will say is that I never felt that first theory to be true.

On it.

[Brodinski]

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# 44
Finding Nemo
(2003, Stanton & Unkrich)

69 points

[Brodinski]

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# 43
Downfall
(2004, Hirschbiegel)

72 points

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yawn.

[wintertriangles]

I'm cool with these, didn't expect Downfall really

[Gabrielle947]

Downfall is great!

[Godoggo]

Finding Nemo is one that I had on my list then took it off because I felt I had too much animation.

I'm fine with the inclusion of Downfall. It's a good movie

[Thursday Next]

I doubt that's the highest place Pixar film either.

Pleased to see Downfall, excellent film and number 5 on my list.

[The Rodent]

Finding Nemo is one that I had on my list then took it off because I felt I had too much animation.



Erm... :p

[Sexy Celebrity]

Finding Nemo had too much Ellen DeGeneres.

[donniedarko]

Finding memo was aight, was wondering when Downfall would show up, it's high on my watchlist

[honeykid]

Downfall. :up: Good to see another of my choices. I think I'm up to five, now. Who knew you guys had such good taste. :p

[JayDee]

Nemo is delightful. Finally I get the seventh film from my list, had been stuck on 6 for ages.

A month or so back I predicted that a total of 18 films from my list would appear. Even though we are now nearing the top 40 I still think I might get around that number.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Never seen Downfall, but have seen many interpretations for that one infamous scene. :p

[Miss Vicky]

I don't think I've ever heard of Downfall before.

Finding Nemo is a charming and funny movie with gorgeous animation, but it didn't get my vote.

[rauldc14]

Finding Nemo is my 7th film to appear. It's my favorite Pixar of all-time.

[rauldc14]

Now, as my birthday present, I demand 2 more films today! And two good ones as well!

[Brodinski]

Nemo is delightful. Finally I get the seventh film from my list, had been stuck on 6 for ages.

A month or so back I predicted that a total of 18 films from my list would appear. Even though we are now nearing the top 40 I still think I might get around that number.

Just one for me so far lol.

[rauldc14]

Updated list, bold were in my list

100. The Bourne Identity 7.5/10
99. Iron Man 9/10
98. Hedwig and the Angry Inch
97. Black Dynamite
96. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
95. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
94. Brotherhood of the Wolf
93. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
92. Rise of the Planet of the Apes
91. American Splendor
90. Spider-Man 2 8/10
89. The Darjeeling Limited
88. The Artist 7/10
87. Good Night, and Good Luck 5/10
86. Quills
85. The Help 7/10
84. Lars and the Real Girl
83. Monsters, Inc. 6.5/10
82. Once
81. The Wrestler
80. Requiem for a Dream 4/10
79. Synecdoche, New York
78. Traffic 2/10
77. King Kong 7.5/10
76. Brokeback Mountain
75. Brick
74. pirates of the caribbean: the curse of the black pearl
73. spring, summer, fall, winter...and spring
72. gangs of new york
71. sunshine
70. man on fire 10/10
69. gladiator 8.5/10
68. hero
67. road to perdition
66. gone baby gone 10/10
65. the three burials of melquiadas estrada
64. gran torino 9.5/10
63. signs 8/10
62. tree of life
61. true grit
60. sideways
59. werckmeister harmonies
58. million dollar baby 10/10
57. the incredibles
56. sin city 8/10
55. adaptation
54. american psycho
53. juno 7/10
52. crash 9/10
51. batman begins
50. solaris
49. drive
48. battle royale
47. moon
46. kill bill volume 1
45. ghost world
44. finding nemo 8/10
43. downfall

[Skepsis93]

Still just 4 of mine - Lars and the Real Girl, Battle Royale, Kill Bill and Juno.

[genesis_pig]

My choices that made it so far:

Adaptation
Ghost World
Road to Peridition
Brick
Synecdoche, NY

[Godoggo]

Mine: Traffic, Monsters Inc., Once, Synecdoche New York and Ghost World.

[rauldc14]

#1 and #2 won't be revealed until post-Christmas and it's looking highly unlikely we will know by the end of 2012. Not complaining just a fact of the matter.

[Brodinski]

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# 42
The King's Speech
(2010, Hooper)

73 points

[Brodinski]

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# 41
Let The Right One In
(2008, Alfredson)

74 points

[Sexy Celebrity]

The King's Speech is good, but I think that movie is extremely overrated. What is so exciting about some man needing speech lessons? The men aren't even that attractive and it's got Helena Bonham Carter, for Christ's sake! It didn't deserve the Best Picture at the Oscars award and it doesn't deserve to be so high on this list.

[Skepsis93]

Two more great choices, LtROI was #25 on my list. I liked The King's Speech a lot from what I remember but I didn't include it.

[Brodinski]

The King's Speech is good, but I think that movie is extremely overrated. What is so exciting about some man needing speech lessons?

The fact that they made a movie about a guy needing lessons to speak in front of a public that good is all the more impressive.

The men aren't even that attractive and it's got Helena Bonham Carter, for Christ's sake!

You had Precious on your list, featuring this hot piece of ass:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bp0V0Xn3-hA/SwQ9cvMPrRI/AAAAAAAAAe8/mKxsO2yam80/s1600/Monique4.jpg

It didn't deserve the Best Picture at the Oscars award

Like they ever get that right...

[gandalf26]

Didn't know that Jabba the Hutt could perform.

[Sexy Celebrity]

The fact that they made a movie about a guy needing lessons to speak in front of a public that good is all the more impressive.

Oh, people will not care for this movie years on down the road. It'll be forgotten. That was a "Big Film Made With Talent So Let's Make It Trendy!" film. Oh, look -- a big film full of talent with a boring plot -- LET'S SAY IT'S THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD! It does not impress me. It does something for people collectively right now, but I am immune. I encourage everyone else to get immunization shots, too.

I don't hate The King's Speech but I find its high praise weird and interesting and I feel it's undeserved. What is it about The King's Speech that really struck a chord?

I'll tell you what it is -- because it's about an impotent man. It is a very male dominated movie with only Helena Bonham Carter strutting around as an adorable little nymph. It's about a man who can't find his voice and thus he is impotent in a way. Everyone wants to go see the impotent man and laugh at him. It's no different than rooting for Forrest Gump or Raymond Babbitt (Rain Man). If this movie was about Michelle Williams or even Meryl Streep as a woman who couldn't give a speech, it would be a big bomb -- nobody would want to see women with a disability like this, unless maybe it's a black woman (perhaps Gabourey Sidibe) because then she would be overcoming all the odds and her skin color would be a factor. And even then, the movie would still not win Best Picture. No, this movie made it big because it's about a weak, impotent, disabled man. That's all.

You had Precious on your list, featuring this hot piece of ass:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bp0V0Xn3-hA/SwQ9cvMPrRI/AAAAAAAAAe8/mKxsO2yam80/s1600/Monique4.jpg

But she is not a man. She might have ate one or two or six in her life, but that doesn't make her a man.

[Thursday Next]

I'm a little surprised to see The King's Speech. It's a decent enough film, but I didn't realise that anyone felt that passionate about it.

Let the Right One In is great, #9 on my list, really happy to see it in the top 50.

[donniedarko]

Kings Speech made my list at number five, so Im pretty damn happy. It makes it the sixth film from my list to show up, and the highest. Firth had one of the best performances of all time.

let the right on in is Ok, not spectacular, it's no shock that it made it on though

[Skepsis93]

Everyone wants to go see the impotent man and laugh at him. It's no different than rooting for Forrest Gump or Raymond Babbitt (Rain Man).

Are you serious? Speak for yourself, man. You can apply that logic to yourself, but don't assume everyone else is enjoying those movies in the same twisted fashion.

[Tyler1]

Ahh yes.... Let The Right One In- one of the best foreign movies of the decade. I'm surprised it isn't on my list. It should be.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Are you serious? Speak for yourself, man. You can apply that logic to yourself, but don't assume everyone else is enjoying those movies in the same twisted fashion.

I just mean that they are all very similar and of the same type -- a white man with a disability movie. Instant Best Picture award. Forrest Gump, A Beautiful Mind, Rain Man, The King's Speech... anymore? Anytime you screw a white man up physically or psychologically in a movie, you're a major success, just as long as it's not something like AIDS, as with Philadelphia.

[Miss Vicky]

I haven't seen Let the Right One In, but I generally avoid horror anyway and am not big on vampires.

The King's Speech was decent, but I found myself being rather underwhelmed by it. Perhaps I just wasn't in the right mood for it. Maybe I'll give it another shot some day.

[honeykid]

I like Let The Right One In and I think it's good, but it never came close to making my list. I've got The King's Speech on the shelf, but I've yet to watch it.

[Thursday Next]

I actually agree with Sexy on this, it is not unusual for the Oscars to favour films about people overcoming the odds and performances in which the actor portrays someone with some kind of disability or disadvantage.

you're a major success, just as long as it's not something like AIDS, as with Philadelphia

Didn't Tom Hanks win the Oscar for Philadelphia?

[Daniel M]

The King Speech is an example of excellent film making on what many might see as a restricting plot if you get me. I need to watch it again.

Let the right one in I haven't seen, need to.

[Skepsis93]

I actually agree with Sexy on this, it is not unusual for the Oscars to favour films about people overcoming the odds and performances in which the actor portrays someone with some kind of disability or disadvantage.

Well sure, of course the Academy has a history with films like this. I was disagreeing with the idea that we like them because we're laughing at them.

[Gabrielle947]

It didn't deserve the Best Picture at the Oscars award
Then which 2010 film would you consider worth an Oscar?King's Speech is good,it's hard to tell whether it will be forgotten but for me,it was the most memorable movie of the 2010.

However,I disliked Let The Right One In.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I actually agree with Sexy on this, it is not unusual for the Oscars to favour films about people overcoming the odds and performances in which the actor portrays someone with some kind of disability or disadvantage.

Girlfriend! I love you.

Didn't Tom Hanks win the Oscar for Philadelphia?

I think he did, but it didn't win Best Picture.

Well sure, of course the Academy has a history with films like this. I was disagreeing with the idea that we like them because we're laughing at them.

Well, I didn't mean everybody laughs, but certainly jokes will be made. I'm not sure if any were made regarding The King's Speech, but Forrest Gump jokes are still made to this day. I ran across a road one time not long ago and this car went by and some guy shouted, "Run, Forrest, Run!" at me. Maybe it's 'cause I was wearing a hat.

[HitchFan97]

The King's Speech squeezed onto my list, glad to see it here. I really want to see Let the Right One In.

[Thursday Next]

I'm not sure it's exactly that we're laughing at them, either, but I think there's a certain element of... not exactly schadenfreude, but catharsis through other people's misery, perhaps. It's maybe the flip side of the other type of character that's favoured by acting awards, the transgressive monster (as Sexy was saying about Bateman in American Psycho).

The problem with the prevalence of the 'white man with a disability movie' is that it is difference without difference, the typical 'straight white able-bodied American man' playing at something other and getting patted on the back for it.

I think Sexy's right that there probably wouldn't be any awards for a film about a woman with a stutter. And there's something a little problematic in actors getting Oscars for playing gay or disabled when at the same time the opportunities for disabled or openly gay actors in the industry are much more limited.

(Although I do concede there have at least been more awards for black actors in recent years.)

[JayDee]

Delighted that The King's Speech made it. It was #19 on my list, and perhaps should have been higher.


I'll tell you what it is -- because it's about an impotent man. It is a very male dominated movie with only Helena Bonham Carter strutting around as an adorable little nymph. It's about a man who can't find his voice and thus he is impotent in a way. Everyone wants to go see the impotent man and laugh at him. It's no different than rooting for Forrest Gump or Raymond Babbitt (Rain Man). If this movie was about Michelle Williams or even Meryl Streep as a woman who couldn't give a speech, it would be a big bomb -- nobody would want to see women with a disability like this, unless maybe it's a black woman (perhaps Gabourey Sidibe) because then she would be overcoming all the odds and her skin color would be a factor. And even then, the movie would still not win Best Picture. No, this movie made it big because it's about a weak, impotent, disabled man. That's all.


That's a very sweeping statement to say that's the reason people liked the film. I like you SC and usually I agree with a lot of what you say, but I think you are way, way off here.

Personally the reason I enjoyed the film was because it was a beautifully acted and beautifully told film. Firth is tremendous, as is Rush. If anything Rush has been slightly overlooked because of the shadow Firth's performance cast. It's also a fascinating story that provides a unique story connected with the war. A man who needs to lead a nation through his speeches is unable to talk. As a story it would be a cheesy, ironic fable if it were fiction but the fact it's true is amazing.

And I certainly don't know anyone who saw the film with the intention to laugh at him. It's certainly a very funny film at points but the humour arises from the situation and from the interaction between Firth and Rush's characters. When I went to see the film there were dozens and dozens of elderly people there. They certainly weren't there to laugh. They were there to relive a turbulent time in their lives (well at least some of them were there as I heard them talking about it) and see it presented in a classy, respectful manner that I find really quite beautiful.

And the same is absolutely true of Rain Man. It's not a movie with the intetion of having you laugh at Raymond Babbit. It's not even really a movie about Raymond. He certainly can't overcome any odds. He doesn't have something that can be fixed or overcome, he has autism. He's exactly the same at the end of the film as he was at the start. The film is about the people who have someone like Raymond in their life and how they deal with it. It's about the change in Charlie's life that is brought about by meeting his autistic brother. It's really a film about Charlie.


Oh and as for your comment about the men not being that attractive as a reason for not liking the film. :facepalm:

[Sexy Celebrity]

There is one woman I can think of who played a disabled character and won an award for it and that's Marlee Matlin in Children of a Lesser God. BUT, interestingly, she's also deaf in real life and she wasn't just acting deaf. Maybe people find that cute. Although, did you see the way she dressed for when she won her Oscar?

http://blogs.revistagq.com/elegiunmaldia/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/marlee.bmp

Lord.

[wintertriangles]

I just hope Let Me In isn't higher. I would be thoroughly disappointed in you guys.

[honeykid]

Don't worry, WT. That isn't going to happen.

[Sexy Celebrity]

This is my new favorite image.

http://blogs.revistagq.com/elegiunmaldia/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/marlee.bmp

[Thursday Next]

God bless the 1980s. A lesser god, perhaps.

[Sexy Celebrity]

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=9627&stc=1&d=1353102525

[donniedarko]

I just hope Let Me In isn't higher. I would be thoroughly disappointed in you guys.

Let me in wasn't half bad, it's not gonna make the list, but I
Can't say it was much worse than Let The Right one in. (which I'll be rewatching soon)

[Godoggo]

I really liked The King's Speech it was charming and sweet. I wasn't blown away by it, but it's one of those movies I would watch if I were feeling a bit blue.

Let the Right One In is another I sort of regret leaving off my list. Stupid cat scene aside it's miles better than Let Me In largely in part to the two phenomenal leads.

[donniedarko]

Does anyone think there'll be any documentaries making it? I had one on my list but this far in I doubt there'll be any

[JayDee]

Yeah I'm struggling to see any documentaries making it now as well. There were a few contenders which could have made it - Man on Wire, Bowling for Columbine, Murderball etc. Like you I had one on my list.


Here's another question I'll throw out there. Is Avatar going to make it?

In most places it would be a dead cert but I'm not so sure about this board. I really thought it would have managed to sneak onto the list, but I'm struggling to see it now we're so deep into the list

[donniedarko]

It sneaked right to the bottom of my list, if it's not in the next set I highly doubt it.

As far as documentaries I'm positive the one from my list won't make it (from the strt I accepted that), but I'm hoping for there to be one, looking like a slim wish though

[Sexy Celebrity]

Still pretty pissed that Brothers isn't gonna make it and it's all my fault.

[DexterRiley]

Does anyone think there'll be any documentaries making it? I had one on my list but this far in I doubt there'll be any



I'll tell you what it is -- because it's about an impotent man. It is a very male dominated movie. It's about a man who can't find his voice and thus he is impotent in a way. Everyone wants to go see the impotent man and laugh at him. It's no different than rooting for Forrest Gump or Raymond Babbitt (Rain Man).


Well i suppose Farenheit 911 has an outside chance with Dubyas borderline Down Syndrome appealing to some as SC has outlined.

http://tonysocialdoc.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/poster.jpg

[Godoggo]

I seriously doubt Avatar will show up, but then I'm usually wrong. :p

I don't think any docs will make it, but I would bet on King of Kong ..if one did.
If I would have put a doc on my list it would have been Ghost Bird.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I love George W. Bush as a character. W. -- the movie -- intrigued me, though I didn't finish it. I miss George W. Bush. I think something like a Madea vs. George W. Bush movie would be awesome.

[wintertriangles]

I hope Fahrenheit 9/11 doesn't show up. There have been so many good documentaries in the past decade and even for Moore that one is crap.

I had at least one doc on my list...won't make it :(

That would be a good tournament idea though hint hint

[donniedarko]

I've only seen one documentary from Moore and its Sicko, which was pretty damn good. I wanna explore Kirby Dick, especially the new one The Invisible War

[wintertriangles]

Sicko wasn't bad besides his Clinton adoration

Kirby Dick is a pretty great documentarian

[donniedarko]

Well I watched Downfall today and yesterday, while it wouldn't make my list and I'm not sure if it should be top 50, I'm glad it's on here. Ganz had a great performance and the Hitler Outrage scene wasn't the one that blew me away. Good film

[Tyler1]

Im hoping that Bowling For Columbine shows up.

[Skepsis93]

I've only seen one documentary from Moore and its Sicko, which was pretty damn good. I wanna explore Kirby Dick, especially the new one The Invisible War

Or for something lighter check out This Film Is Not Yet Rated - very entertaining.

With this discussion of documentaries I'm wondering what on earth possessed me to leave King of Kong off my list.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Surprised to see Kings Speech. I mean it's good....but what's so special about it?

[Sexy Celebrity]

Surprised to see Kings Speech. I mean it's good....but what's so special about it?
EXACTLY!

TheUsualSuspect is God. He knows all and controls all.

That King's Speech is nothing but bland tapioca pudding.

[gandalf26]

Surprised to see Kings Speech. I mean it's good....but what's so special about it?

I think it benefits from being a 2010 film. If released in 2000-2001 ish I think it would be much lower/not on the list.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I think it benefits from being a 2010 film. If released in 2000-2001 ish I think it would be much lower/not on the list.

Correctamundo.

[Brodinski]

Photobucket issues tonight. I'll get the next pair up tomorrow.

[Sleezy]

That's a very sweeping statement to say that's the reason people liked the film. I like you SC and usually I agree with a lot of what you say, but I think you are way, way off here.

He's basically trolling the thread now. Totally hijacked. I think it's pretty disrespectful to Brodinski and his hard work putting this together.

[Sexy Celebrity]

He's basically trolling the thread now. Totally hijacked. I think it's pretty disrespectful to Brodinski and his hard work putting this together.

I completely disagree.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Fine. To hell with Brodinski's piece of trash countdown. I won't have anymore to do with it. Goodbye.

[Brodinski]

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# 40
A History of Violence
(2005, Cronenberg)

76 points

[Brodinski]

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# 39
Wonder Boys
(2000, Hanson)

77 points

[Daniel M]

Really didn't expect to see many more surprises so far up, so to see two (at least they were surprises for me) is a big shock, I haven't even heard of Wonder Boys.

[wintertriangles]

Fine. To hell with Brodinski's piece of trash countdown. I won't have anymore to do with it. Goodbye.Well this has NEVER happened before

[donniedarko]

Fine. To hell with Brodinski's piece of trash countdown. I won't have anymore to do with it. Goodbye.

A post ago he said he's not disrespecting Brodinskis countdown, and now he calls it a piece of trash.
:rolleyes:

0/2 in this set

[Godoggo]

Wonder Boys is number 9 on my list. Really didn't expect it to make the top 40, so I'm very happy.

Not a fan of A History of Violence.

[Skepsis93]

Fine. To hell with Brodinski's piece of trash countdown. I won't have anymore to do with it. Goodbye.

Are you schizo or have so little going on that you have to take this so, so seriously? Or just so desperate for attention that every post is designed to provoke some sort of response from people? Like that stuff about laughing at disabled characters or The King's Speech. It's like, we get it, man. You don't like it. Lots of us do. Move on.

Speaking of moving on... Wonder Boys is a big surprise, to me at least. I'm not keen on A History of Violence, although I was expecting to see it at some point. Maybe not this high though.

[Pyro Tramp]

Glad to see Cronenberg, think Spider was probably his better flick but definitely happy this one made and so high. Probably most pleasing to me so far.

[Godoggo]

I take it you liked Wonder Boys, Skepsis? Hopefully, it making the list will encourage more people to watch it. I feel it doesn't get as much love as it should.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I didn't like being called a troll. I never intended on trolling this thread. I loved this countdown and I loved responding to it and I was completely taken aback by Sleezy's comment and then he started racking up rep points for it and I'm sure Brodinski was probably one of the reppers and it really saddened me. I never wanted to cause problems in here. I was just trying to give my opinions about things. I think we all should be able to speak our mind about movies. I am sorry if I junked up this thread with silly pictures such as the ones of Marlee Matlin, but I never intended on "hijacking" and taking on a troll persona.

[Skepsis93]

I take it you liked Wonder Boys, Skepsis? Hopefully, it making the list will encourage more people to watch it. I feel it doesn't get as much love as it should.

Haven't seen it, I was just surprised since I don't see it mentioned very often. I definitely want to check it out now though.

[Sleezy]

Still haven't seen either of these films. I like Cronenberg's stuff okay, but there's always that slight bit of hesitation because you never know what you're getting with him.

And Wonder Boys, well... I've had no less than 30 or so people tell me "LIKE OMG U GOTTA SEE IT!!!1." So... I guess I should see it. :laugh:

[The Rodent]

A History Of Violence, top film. I was quite surprised when I first saw it.

As for SC's outburst... this is the one and only time I'll hand out a neg rep.

This isn't Brod's list. Brodinski has put the time and effort into putting all of our choices and opinions into a list. Plus rep to B, neg rep to SC.

It's all very well having an opinion Sexy, but saying things like that when it was everybody's choices and everybody's lists, and only that one man taking it upon himself to work hard for our input to recieve such a comment, is simply just wrong.

Sorry Sexy, it has to be done.

[stevo3001]

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p29/ForgotsoFatso/wonder-ok.jpg

Horrible film, even more horrible poster.

[JayDee]

Anyone else really missing Mark? Man I wish he was still here. He would just come in like he did before and state that the large majority of films so far have been good - great, tell us how good the general taste of everyone here is and just make the thread a more harmonious place. The world is a happier place when Mark's in it. :D

As for those two films, still never got round to A History of Violence. Wonder Boys I have seen but it was so long ago now that I remember absolutely nothing about it, other than the fact that I really liked it.

[honeykid]

Very surprised to see The Wonder Boys here. I knew there'd be a couple of big votes for it, but I didn't expect to see it this high up. I've no idea if this is good or not, as it's yet another of those films that I have, but have yet to see.

[Sexy Celebrity]

A History Of Violence, top film. I was quite surprised when I first saw it.

As for SC's outburst... this is the one and only time I'll hand out a neg rep.

This isn't Brod's list. Brodinski has put the time and effort into putting all of our choices and opinions into a list. Plus rep to B, neg rep to SC.

It's all very well having an opinion Sexy, but saying things like that when it was everybody's choices and everybody's lists, and only that one man taking it upon himself to work hard for our input to recieve such a comment, is simply just wrong.

Sorry Sexy, it has to be done.

Well, the whole thing is bull. Might be our votes - including mine - but as Sleezy himself (or herself?) stated - this is mostly Brodinski's work and it is certainly mainly his Top 100, at least as a presenter.

And this whole thing is stupid. I was minding my own business and staying out of here when Sleezy dragged me into this. So what if I got mad and called this a piece of trash? In some regards, it certainly is.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Anyway, I am not at all surprised to see Wonder Boys on here and so high. I have known that a lot of MoFos love it, including me. It was on my list. This makes nine movies that I have picked.

[wintertriangles]

Well, the whole thing is bull. Might be our votes - including mine - but as Sleezy himself (or herself?) stated - this is mostly Brodinski's work and it is certainly mainly his Top 100, at least as a presenter.

And this whole thing is stupid. I was minding my own business and staying out of here when Sleezy dragged me into this. So what if I got mad and called this a piece of trash? In some regards, it certainly is.I'm frankly surprised you haven't learned that sometimes you shouldn't defend yourself

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'll do what I do.

[JayDee]

Bit of advice SC - keep away from this thread for a bit. And I mean that as friendly advice.

I'm not exactly sure how this seems to have escalated so quickly but I'd say take a break from this thread for a day or two, cool off and then come back when everything will have quickly been forgotten about. You've been here for more than 10 years and a in general a lot of people like you. Don't say anything that will get you banned, or have people hounding you into leaving.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Bit of advice SC - keep away from this thread for a bit. And I mean that as friendly advice.

I'm not exactly sure how this seems to have escalated so quickly but I'd say take a break from this thread for a day or two, cool off and then come back when everything will have quickly been forgotten about. You've been here for more than 10 years and a in general a lot of people like you. Don't say anything that will get you banned, or have people hounding you into leaving.

What is the BIG deal??? You guys are doing nothing but creating your own drama and using me as the star villain. I can't believe you guys are even still talking about this and scolding me. Do you think I can't rationalize on my own and know to keep away -- and by the way, being ordered to stay away on advice like that doesn't really make me want to take it. And why? Because I refuse to take all of this so seriously.

It's Sleezy who came in here and called me a troll. Yeah, I got mad. Yeah, I said something mean about the thread because of that. SO WHAT? This argument has been exhausted. Time to move on.

[JayDee]

What is the BIG deal??? You guys are doing nothing but creating your own drama and using me as the star villain. I can't believe you guys are even still talking about this and scolding me. Do you think I can't rationalize on my own and know to keep away -- and by the way, being ordered to stay away on advice like that doesn't really make me want to take it. And why? Because I refuse to take all of this so seriously.

It's Sleezy who came in here and called me a troll. Yeah, I got mad. Yeah, I said something mean about the thread because of that. SO WHAT? This argument has been exhausted. Time to move on.

To be fair I don't see the big deal about it all either. And I didn't really agree with the opinion that you were trolling the thread

And as for you being rational and knowing when to walk away, you didn't exactly seem to do that when you got mad (as you admit) and lashed out unnecesarily at Brodinski and his idea/thread. And then accusing him of repping Sleezy's troll comment. And I was hardly ordering you to leave. I was just offering the advice that it might be best just to take a day to chill and move on before any other outbursts, because myself and others wouldn't like to see this build any further to a point where you may leave.

I was really just trying to help mate but maybe I really shouldn't have bothered. :shrug:

[Sexy Celebrity]

To be fair I don't see the big deal about it all either. And I didn't really agree with the opinion that you were trolling the thread

And as for you being rational and knowing when to walk away, you didn't exactly seem to do that when you got mad (as you admit) and lashed out unnecesarily at Brodinski and his idea/thread. And then accusing him of repping Sleezy's troll comment. And I was hardly ordering you to leave. I was just offering the advice that it might be best just to take a day to chill and move on before any other outbursts, because myself and others wouldn't like to see this build any further to a point where you may leave.

I was really just trying to help mate but maybe I really shouldn't have bothered. :shrug:

Well, thanks. You're fine. Umm... I was hardly lashing out at Brodinski. Yes, I thought he repped what Sleezy said. Odds are, he did. Probably Wintertriangles, too. I am not liked by them.

I don't know if I am leaving Movie Forums - by my own will or by force - but, I'm sure a bunch of people wouldn't mind seeing me disappear forever.

It makes me sad. It really does. I'm close to tears sometimes. I really am. I don't wanna be seen as a pest or a troll. Odds are Sleezy is having a bad day and is moody and he decided to take it out on me a little. I shouldn't have called this thread a piece of trash. But I did. There you go. S-s-s-sorry.

[The Rodent]

Meh... I don't want to see you disappear SC, I just think your comment against Brodinski was harsh and uncalled for due to Brods not actually being directly responsible for what this thread contains in regard to the list... and I feel that it was misjudged as it was actually, indirectly, an attack against those who partook in Brodonski's thread, including myself. Just me being totally honest.

Still, ho hum. Life goes on. Can't wait for the next two entries.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I don't feel bad for Brodinski. Not one bit. I bet if I had kept my mouth shut and not called this countdown a piece of trash, nobody would feel sorry for me over Sleezy calling me a troll. In fact, I bet all of your asses would probably just agree with him! So, no, I don't feel bad for Brodinski and all of his "hard" work here. To hell with him. He's not upset. He's not the one stressing over any of this. I am. So screw him. And Rodent, I am upset that you of all people won't even stand beside me. You just went ahead and gave me a neg rep. I will remember that, Rodent. I will remember.

[wintertriangles]

This is as dull as daytime television, but since it's real it's more pitiful.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Ah ha ha.

[The Rodent]

This isn't a battle SC, if you want me to stand by a statement that was completely out of place, I won't.
The fact is, you are out of place. Assuming I'll back you up after what's been said is even more deluded.

Ok, Brods probably isn't bothered by what people think or say on an internet forum... but that doesn't give anyone the right to attack his work unprovoked.
I'm defending Brods here and will not back up anyone, whether you or anyone else, who has stepped out of line and said the things that you have about him.
He doesn't deserve being talked about like this, and I don't deserve being attacked for defending him either.

I've always seen you as a mate on the forum, but hell, you've shown a side I didn't think possible from you.

It's not a case of becoming a personal drama either or me trying to make a drama out of this.
What I'm saying about your recent posts is simply a truth. I accept your point of view, even though it's completely off point and misguided, just accept mine too and let's carry on with the thread that everyone on this forum has had input on... rather than slamming those who have tried to make it actually work.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Okay, look -- seriously, fellas, STOP TALKING ABOUT ME. If any of you want to argue anymore, PM me. This has gone beyond more than it should have gone. We are at a stage where mods should intervene and delete posts. I'm not gonna write anymore posts that should be deleted. We are hideously off topic and we need to get back on topic with The MoFo Millennium Top 100 Countdown list.

PLEASE. Don't talk about me again. EVER. In here.

Back to the damn movies. END.

[wintertriangles]

Alright back to trash!

I like A History of Violence but might prefer Eastern Promises, it seems to tackle similar themes but in an atmosphere I personally prefer, plus Naomi Watts and Vincent Cassel are in it. Haven't seen Spider though.

[Sleezy]

as Sleezy himself (or herself?)

Like hell.

I was minding my own business and staying out of here when Sleezy dragged me into this. So what if I got mad and called this a piece of trash? In some regards, it certainly is.

Trolling again.

[donniedarko]

I've always seen you as a mate on the forum, but hell, you've shown a side I didn't think possible from you.

Really? That's one of the lighter of his lighter PMS's that I've seen

His little beef with Will and The Karien Klien thread were easily worse. Not to mention calling out Mark on the personal problems thread when i first signed up. And I heard he was even worse before

[Sleezy]

Odds are Sleezy is having a bad day and is moody and he decided to take it out on me a little.

:laugh:

You've made some of the most tasteless, disrespectful comments I've ever seen on Mofo in this thread, and you know you did because you wanted people to react. I just called you out on it. People don't want to read that crap. Now, conveniently, you're trying to water down the whole thing as "no big deal" and deflect blame. That's troll behavior, whether you know it or want to admit it.

[Miss Vicky]

Haven't seen A History of Violence.

I have only vague recollections of Wonder Boys so I can't go into specifics, but I do remember not liking it at all. Fantastic soundtrack, though.

[TylerDurden99]

A History Of Violence was great, had it at #24 on my list, haven't seen Wonder Boys, though.

[Sexy Celebrity]

That's troll behavior, whether you know it or want to admit it.

The fact that you are coming in here and only speaking up at the right moments -- to get me to defend myself again -- to instigate more damage -- says to me that it is not me who is doing trolling behavior, but YOU. You are being calculated, Sleezy. I saw earlier how you made a post to my post where I apologized and you only said, "I don't care" and then after a few minutes, you deleted it. What possessed you to make a post saying only "I don't care" and then you just delete it?

I have been a member of this forum for ten years. I have over 6,000 positive rep points and 50+ friends. I have a history of being silly and wild and opinionated. What is wrong here if what I'm doing is now being considered "trolling"? Ever since Dexter Riley a couple of years ago started screaming, "Troll!" "Troll!" at various people, including such as Planet News, everyone's been on a troll kick. It's like a witch hunt around here, now. Movie Forums has turned into Salem, Massachusetts!

[Thursday Next]

There's certainly some hijacking of the thread going on. If you're making posts that have nothing to do with movies then you know who you are.

A History of Violence I'm not surprised to see here. I think it's a good film although I don't love it enough to have it anywhere near my top 25.

Wonder Boys I was not expecting. I won't say I haven't heard of it, but I have no idea what kind of film it is. I could look it up on imdb, but I'd like to hear from the people who voted for it why it's so great.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Wonder Boys has the following ingredients:



Tobey Maguire and Robert Downey Jr.
A drag queen
Robert Downey Jr. PICKING UP the drag queen on an airplane (or was it just the airport?)
Robert Downey Jr. being bisexual and CUDDLING UP against Tobey Maguire in bed.
A story about writers.
Pittsburgh.
A Marilyn Monroe jacket.
A woman named Oola.
Did I already mention the drag queen and Robert Downey Jr. hitting on Tobey Maguire? Oh, yes, I did.
Richard Thomas.
Richard Thomas being the victim of adultery. Cuckoldery.
Marijuana.
Tobey Maguire being an expert on celebrity suicides.
Did I mention the drag queen and Robert Downey Jr.'s bisexuality and attraction to Tobey Maguire?
The film also features an incredible scene where the drag queen changes back into a man during the duration of a car ride.

Negatives:


Katie Holmes
Michael Douglas looks terrible and I find his character kind of irritating.

[Tyler1]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0zxuadHHj1qcay1ao1_500.gif

Still waiting for something interesting

[honeykid]

With The Wonder Boys or the list in general?

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'd say he hates this list.

[rauldc14]

The Wonder Boys this late? Seems strange to me.

[Yoda]

I'm surprised, too. I like it fine. It's a good movie. And I'm not surprised it's on the list in general, even, but yeah, very surprised it cracked the top 50.

[linespalsy]

Haven't seen Wonder Boys. A History of Violence is nothing special.

[Sleezy]

The fact that you are coming in here and only speaking up at the right moments -- to get me to defend myself again -- to instigate more damage -- says to me that it is not me who is doing trolling behavior, but YOU. You are being calculated, Sleezy.

Whatever man. I pop in when I can. I just felt the need to respond to your nonsense that I "had a bad day" or I'm pursuing some agenda.

I saw earlier how you made a post to my post where I apologized and you only said, "I don't care" and then after a few minutes, you deleted it. What possessed you to make a post saying only "I don't care" and then you just delete it?

I saw that you replied "I completely disagree" and decided to reply with "I don't care." But I forgot that Mofo does that thing where it shows you the second to last page when you click on a thread, not the last. I thought my reply would fall immediately under yours, but several people had already posted.

I have been a member of this forum for ten years. I have over 6,000 positive rep points and 50+ friends. I have a history of being silly and wild and opinionated. What is wrong here if what I'm doing is now being considered "trolling"?

Fair enough, man. But I've been a member here for a long time too. I get that you're a silly dude or whatever. We all get that. But it seemed like you were starting to post provocative stuff for the sake of being provocative. Obviously, some others were put off by it too. Honestly, I just chalked it up to you being bored and/or whiney that more of your favorites aren't making this list, and we all know you like attention. For the record, I never called you a troll. I just said you were acting like one.

Now, if you'll excuse me...

Solaris? I haven't seen it but haven't heard anything but hate about the remake on this site

And we're just being nice. It's garbage. Whoever voted for it had it at #1 to get it this high

Solaris is a shocker.

I haven't seen Solaris and I am yet to see a single person that has liked it, didn't realise we had members around here that liked it so much to be honest.

If solaris came in in the first ten I could understand, but top 50?

I've not seen Solaris and had no idea it was so popular.

Well, whoever voted for it needs to let us know:p

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j38/iusreview/solaris.jpg

It was me. And maybe only me, but I imagine someone else must have had it on their list for it to land here. I had it at #8 on my list. I know Sedai likes it a lot, too.

I wrote about it back in 2010 here (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=618676) because it really is a movie I can watch over and over again, usually at night. It's a pretty unconventional film, I'll give everyone that. It's slower than most, it meanders, and it's not the most concrete storyline you'll ever experience. But I'm a big fan of Steven Soderbergh and Stanislaw Lem's original novel, and I think Solaris is a perfect marriage of the former's vision and the latter's narrative spirit. (As it happens, I'm not a fan of Tarkovskiy's 1972 film. I can appreciate the vision, but talk about a meandering film with lots of long shots and extraneous crap thrown in for artistic effect...)

One the biggest things plaguing Solaris at the time it was released was how it was marketed. Consider this trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_pTtju_MPY) and this trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4sJA-E51bQ), neither of which accurately represent what the film really is. It's not a romance-turned-thriller and it's not a sci-fi actioner.

It's dreamlike, contemplative, psychological. It's content in depicting space as quiet, even peaceful... something very few sci-fi films do. The source of conflict is always internal. It's not a deadly xenomorph hunting down the crew, or a rogue mercenary group hellbent on destruction, or even the death of a star threatening humanity. It's the characters real, personal, painful emotions working against them. I find it pleasantly ironic that the planet itself is strikingly alien... but the conflict it conjures for everyone is so very familiar. That's the point, I think: that even if you could travel far away from loss, you can never travel quite far enough. And in the end, do you really want to?

The plot doesn't make perfect sense, admittedly, but I'm a sucker for this stuff. The smooth and steady style (definitely a contemporary reflection of 2001: A Space Odyssey) and Cliff Martinez' beautifully hypnotic score get your heart rate slowed down and your mind into a very internal place, which is where you need to be to enjoy this film. Don't watch Solaris in the middle of the day, in July, with the sun shining through your window and your kids playing outside. Watch this film at night, in December, with the lights off and a hot cider in your hand. Make sure you're a little sleepy. Let your mind wander; don't let it be such a laser beam of scrutiny. Do that, and you might just experience what I truly think Soderbergh was going for.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j38/iusreview/solaris-4.jpg

[rauldc14]

I'm surprised, too. I like it fine. It's a good movie. And I'm not surprised it's on the list in general, even, but yeah, very surprised it cracked the top 50.


I've nothing against it either. Just very surprised.

[Sedai]

So nobody's owning up to voting for Solaris, then?

I don't recall voting for it, but I rate it 4.

Great, great stuff. I have seen it probably 10 times or so. I like the melancholy vibe and stark production.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Fair enough, man. But I've been a member here for a long time too. I get that you're a silly dude or whatever. We all get that. But it seemed like you were starting to post provocative stuff for the sake of being provocative. Obviously, some others were put off by it too. Honestly, I just chalked it up to you being bored and/or whiney that more of your favorites aren't making this list, and we all know you like attention. For the record, I never called you a troll. I just said you were acting like one.


I like being provocative and I'll look for provocative things to say sometimes, yes. But if I am that way, then I'm that way because I feel I've got a point that I believe in and I think it should be said. That was the case with The King's Speech. I don't have a problem with that movie -- I liked it -- but I do think it's overrated and I do think there's something fishy about why it became so beloved and won Best Picture. I just saw something I felt existed. I knew it would probably be taken as wrong, but I felt it was fine to mention it anyway. What if other people agreed? Maybe I would learn more and better shape this idea of mine. I take risks. That's what I try to do around here.

Maybe in some regards I do act trollish. Check out Honeykid's profile comments pages, for example, and you'll see how I've Whoopi Goldberg Trolled that thing all to Hell. But I wasn't trying to be that way here. Only time I feel I really stepped over the line was when I got a little too Marlee Matlin crazy, but that I actually blame on a beer I was having - which, by the way, I don't drink often.

I didn't do anything because I was bored and feeling whiny about my favorites not making this list. Hell, I think nine movies on this list were on my own list of 25. I don't even know if anyone else has had that many. I'm on a roll. If there's a contest, I'm winning, although wintertriangles would disagree.

I like attention, but really, who doesn't? Well, okay, not everybody does, but many do. I don't think I'm asking for a lot more than other people. I certainly don't barge in and take over threads I'm not interested in just for attention, like the new thread about Hamas or the MoFo Football game thread, etc.

Hope this ends our feud. Let me give you a Nebbit kiss. :kiss:

[rauldc14]

All I say is if the next 2 are unexpected, shockers are easily left off the list.

[Sleezy]

I didn't do anything because I was bored and feeling whiny about my favorites not making this list. Hell, I think nine movies on this list were on my own list of 25. I don't even know if anyone else has had that many. I'm on a roll. If there's a contest, I'm winning, although wintertriangles would disagree.

Well, not to gloat or fan the flames any more, but... 12 movies from my list have made it so far. ;)

Hope this ends our feud. Let me give you a Nebbit kiss. :kiss:

Lol, feud ended. Was it even a feud? We didn't shoot at each other. Maybe it was a spat. Except we didn't spit either. I'm gonna go with kerfuffle: (n) "a misunderstanding leading to accusations and defensiveness." Yeah.

[linespalsy]

okay quit canoodling you two.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Well, not to gloat or fan the flames any more, but... 12 movies from my list have made it so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zj5IGmfd_M

[Tyler1]

Solaris remake is just garbage. A butchering of Tarkovsky's masterpiece.

[Sedai]

Solaris remake is just garbage. A butchering of Tarkovsky's masterpiece.

Negative. It's a brilliant reinterpretation of the original's ideas, doesn't try to recreate the older film shot for shot (always a mistake with remakes, IMO), has a magnificent score, is well acted, shot beautifully, directed with a sure hand and leaves the viewer with a ton to think about at the end of the film. A fantastic cerebral science fiction film.

[Yoda]

Fight! Fight!

[Sleezy]

Negative. It's a brilliant reinterpretation of the original's ideas, doesn't try to recreate the older film shot for shot (always a mistake with remakes, IMO), has a magnificent score, is well acted, shot beautifully, directed with a sure hand and leaves the viewer with a ton to think about at the end of the film. A fantastic cerebral science fiction film.

Perfectly said. I'm with this guy.

[Yoda]

All I say is if the next 2 are unexpected, shockers are easily left off the list.
This. You're right about the shocker thing; we're getting to the point where, every time a surprising movie shows up, the most surprising part is going to be the movie it must have supplanted. We're gonna have some cray-zay omissions when this is all said and done, I think. But maybe most'll still get crammed in there.

Still waiting for some of my other huge ones to show up so I can write a bit about them.

[Sleezy]

Any guesses on what's going to take the cake?

[Godoggo]

My guesses for number one and two: Mulholland Dr. and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. I actually hope I am really wrong, but I have a feeling those two movies got a lot of votes with fairly high placings.

What would be a great surprise upset would be for Up to take the whole thing.

[Yoda]

I'd be pretty giddy, but I'd be happy with anything in the top 10-15, really. That'll definitely be one I'll be writing a little about when it comes up. I've actually got a huh-ooge, multimedia essay on that 99% done and ready to go up in the Essays area before too long, but it'll probably wait for some of the big changes going on behind the scenes first...

[donniedarko]

Here's my top 10 prediction

10. There Will Be Blood
9. Donnie Darko
8. City of God
7. Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
6. The Dark Knight
5. Amelie
4. Up
3.The Departed
2. Mulholland Drive
1. Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind

[Sleezy]

Yeah, selfishly, I'm hoping Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is way up there, if not first. I do think a lot of people probably had it ranked high on their lists. I also think No Country for Old Men and LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring are going to be way up there.

[Yoda]

Gotta imagine LOTR's gonna be hurt by the split vote. Gotta be a few ROTKs on there diluting it, no? It was probably the best of the three.

[Skepsis93]

Here's my top 10 prediction

10. There Will Be Blood
9. Donnie Darko
8. City of God
7. Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
6. The Dark Knight
5. Amelie
4. Up
3.The Departed
2. Mulholland Drive
1. Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind

Seems reasonable, except I reckon The Departed will be high, just not that high. Lots of different voters this time around.

Naturally I would love ESotSM to take top spot, but I have a feeling Mulholland Dr. will just pip it. No big deal. I really love the majority of that Top 10.

[Sleezy]

Gotta imagine LOTR's gonna be hurt by the split vote. Gotta be a few ROTKs on there diluting it, no? It was probably the best of the three.

Maybe it will, but Return of the King is the best of the three? I beg to diffah, suh!

[wintertriangles]

Whatever happens, just don't let The Departed be that high.

[Yoda]

Maybe it will, but Return of the King is the best of the three? I beg to diffah, suh!
It's close. I think I prefer it slightly. But it admittedly depends on my mood, and I'd probably agree with most of the arguments you'd make the other way. Doesn't mean I wouldn't mind hearing 'em, though! :) Might be a fun exercise, especially since I'm guessing we both love both of 'em.

[rauldc14]

top 10 prediction:

10. Up
9. Lost in Translation
8. Pan's Labyrinth
7. The Departed
6. Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
5. Memento
4. The Dark Knight
3. Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
2. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
1. Mulholland Dr.