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Guaporense
01-31-13, 07:21 PM
This may ramble and not be too relevant, sorry, but...

There are plenty of bad and meh films made all over the world. I can't really buy into any argument that one country/culture somehow produces superior movies than another by virtue of being that country/culture.

Absolutely. There are masterpieces made everywhere as well, even Brazil, which such a tiny film industry managed to produce stuff like City of God.

People are people everywhere and hence the artistic potential to produce masterpieces exists in every country: great artists can be born everywhere.

That said, I do much prefer anime to any other animated style, such as french or american. It's an aesthetic choice, yes, but there also is a greater variety and willingness to push the artform, seems to me.

Yet I'll be the first to admit there's LOTS of crap anime. I just think that when it's done very well, nothing else quite compares IMO.

I also said that most anime was crap. But that is a general rule that applies to anything, including movies: most movies made in every country in the world are crap.

Guaporense
01-31-13, 08:36 PM
I was an idiot when I said that there shouldn't be a poll of animated films. Since it would have encouraged users to watch many great foreign animations before they submit to the deadline.

Interestingly, here is the top feature length animated films according to the Laputa Animation festival (it was made in 2003) poll of 150 best animations (including short films and TV series) as voted by 140 animators from all over the world, I am only including feature length (over 60 minutes) films, which total 44 films.

It is basically the animation equivalent of the British Sign and Sound film poll. Like the British poll it has a certain bias toward older movies.

The Greatest Animated Features (as of 2003)

1 - Fantasia, 1940 (USA)
http://www.oscars.org/features/images/movies-find-audiences/fantasia-posters/fantasia-original_tmb.jpg

2 - The King and the Mocking Bird, 1952 (France)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7a/Roi-et-loiseau-pochette-avant.jpg/220px-Roi-et-loiseau-pochette-avant.jpg

3 - My Neighbor Totoro, 1988 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/02/My_Neighbor_Totoro_-_Tonari_no_Totoro_%28Movie_Poster%29.jpg

4 - Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, 1937 (USA)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d4/Snow_White_1937_poster.jpg/220px-Snow_White_1937_poster.jpg

5 - Yellow Submarine, 1968 (UK, USA)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6f/Beatles_Yellow_Submarine_move_poster.jpg

6 - Little Prince and the Eight Headed Dragon, 1963 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/32/Littleprince8headeddragon.jpg

7 - Horus: Prince of the Sun, 1968 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9c/Hols.jpg/220px-Hols.jpg

8 - Mr. Bugs Goes to Town, 1941 (USA)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/20/MrBugGoesToTown.jpg/220px-MrBugGoesToTown.jpg

9 - Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, 1984 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/bc/Nausicaaposter.jpg/220px-Nausicaaposter.jpg

10 - Castle in the Sky, 1986 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/40/Castle_in_the_Sky_%28Movie_Poster%29.jpg

11 - The Castle of Cagliostro, 1979 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4f/Castle_of_Cagliostro_poster.png/220px-Castle_of_Cagliostro_poster.png

12 - A Midsummer Night's Dream, 1959 (Czechoslovakia)
(couldn't find a poster, here is a clip)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdQ_v-EyO8o

13 - The Nightmare Before Christmas, 1993 (USA)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9a/The_nightmare_before_christmas_poster.jpg/220px-The_nightmare_before_christmas_poster.jpg

14 - Fantastic Planet, 1973 (France)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/55/Fantstic-planet-poster.jpg/220px-Fantstic-planet-poster.jpg

15 - Spirited Away, 2001 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/30/Spirited_Away_poster.JPG/215px-Spirited_Away_poster.JPG

16 - Akira, 1988 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e8/Akira_movie_poster.jpg

17 - Pinocchio, 1940 (USA)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/ba/Pinocchio-1940-poster.jpg

18 - Bambi, 1942 (USA)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b3/Theatrical2.jpg

19 - Grave of the Fireflies, 1988 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a5/Grave_of_the_Fireflies_Japanese_poster.jpg/220px-Grave_of_the_Fireflies_Japanese_poster.jpg

20 - The Iron Giant, 1998 (USA)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d3/The_Iron_Giant_poster.JPG/215px-The_Iron_Giant_poster.JPG

21 - Bajaja, 1951 (Czechoslovakia)
(couldn't find a poster, here is a clip)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgP7-5Uq6wQ

22 - Toy Story, 1995 (USA)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/13/Toy_Story.jpg/220px-Toy_Story.jpg

23 - The Emperor's Nightingale, 1949 (Czechoslovakia)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4b/The_Emperor%27s_Nightingale_FilmPoster.jpeg/220px-The_Emperor%27s_Nightingale_FilmPoster.jpeg

24 - Monster's Incorporated, 2001 (USA)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/63/Monsters_Inc.JPG/220px-Monsters_Inc.JPG

25 - Puss in Boots, 1969 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/10/PussInBoots.jpg

26 - Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade, 1999 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/11/Affiche_Jin_Roh_La_brigade_des_loups_1998_1.jpg/220px-Affiche_Jin_Roh_La_brigade_des_loups_1998_1.jpg

27 - The Tale of the White Serpent, 1958 (Japan)
http://anime.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/hakujaden_poster.jpg

28 - Allegro Non Troppo, 1976 (Italy)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/02/Allegro_non_Troppo_LOW.jpeg

29 - Wings of Honneamise, 1987 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a2/HonneamiseHD.jpg/220px-HonneamiseHD.jpg

30 - Patlabor 2, 1993 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4b/Patlabor2DVD.jpg

Guaporense
01-31-13, 08:36 PM
31 - Night on the Galactic Express, 1985 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9a/Night_on_the_Galactic_Railroad.jpg/220px-Night_on_the_Galactic_Railroad.jpg

32 - The Fabulous World of Jules Verne, 1958 (Czechoslovakia)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d5/Vynalez_zkazy_1958_poster.jpg/220px-Vynalez_zkazy_1958_poster.jpg

33 - Alice, 1988 (Czechoslovakia)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/17/NecoZAlenky.jpg/215px-NecoZAlenky.jpg

34 - Urusei Yatsura 2: Byûtifuru dorîmâ, 1984 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/13/Lum-Beautiful-Dreamer.png/230px-Lum-Beautiful-Dreamer.png

35 - Macross: Do You Remember Love?, 1984 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4e/Macross_do_you_remember_love_dvd.jpg/220px-Macross_do_you_remember_love_dvd.jpg

36 - Heavy Metal, 1981 (USA)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/Heavy_Metal_%281981%29.jpg

37 - Ghost in the Shell, 1995 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/ca/Ghostintheshellposter.jpg/220px-Ghostintheshellposter.jpg

38 - Lupin the Third: The Secret of Mamo, 1978 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/62/Lupin_Mamo_poster.jpg/220px-Lupin_Mamo_poster.jpg

39 - Galaxy Express 999: The Signature Edition, 1979 (Japan)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Y0pTub3e8lA/TaROvbZTvlI/AAAAAAAAIjU/z8gz0lz1_0A/s1600/cover--galaxy_express_999_vol._3.jpg

40 - Who Framed Roger Rabbit, 1988 (USA)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/32/Movie_poster_who_framed_roger_rabbit.jpg/220px-Movie_poster_who_framed_roger_rabbit.jpg

41 - Dumbo, 1941 (USA)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a7/Dumbo-1941-poster.jpg/220px-Dumbo-1941-poster.jpg

42 - Princess Mononoke, 1997 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/24/Princess_Mononoke_Japanese_Poster_%28Movie%29.jpg/220px-Princess_Mononoke_Japanese_Poster_%28Movie%29.jpg

43 - Porco Rosso, 1992 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fc/Porco_Rosso_%28Movie_Poster%29.jpg/220px-Porco_Rosso_%28Movie_Poster%29.jpg

44 - Memories, 1995 (Japan)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8a/Memoriesaaa.jpg/220px-Memoriesaaa.jpg

Distribution by region:

Japan - 9 films
USA - 11.5 films
Europe - 9.5 films

For more recent films (made after 1975):

Japan - 19 films
USA - 6 films
Europe - 2 films

Notes:

1- Foreign films constituted about 3/4 of all films, as it should be :). At my personal top 50 animated films, the US had 8 films, Japan, 36 films, Europe, 6 films.

2 - Now that's what I consider a rather fair distribution. If a similar poll were done today, about 10 years later, Japan would probably score an even higher proportion than 52.4% of all films, considering the output by the likes of Satoshi Kon, Mamuro Hosoda, Makoto Schinkai, Rintaro, the new Ghibli films and the work of several other directors. Considering the fact that for films dated from 1975 (after the anime boom began in Japan) to 2002, Japan had 70.4% of all great animated films.

3 - Miyazaki alone had 5 films at the top 15 and 7 films in total (all his films up to that point except Kiki's Delivery Service :mad:). Princess Mononoke was definitely too low, though, his other films probably absorbed most of the jury's votes.

4 - Pixar would probably get more than two films, maybe 5-6 films in total (adding The Incredibles, Wall-E, UP and Ratatouille).

5 - If an additional poll were done today, feature length animations would probably get a larger share of the total (more than 44/150), as about 400-500 feature length animations were released from 2003-2012.

6 - Czechoslovakia apparently was a very important producer of animated films. Most of what I haven't seem is from Japan and Czechoslovakia.

Miss Vicky
02-01-13, 02:03 PM
Just watched Let the Right One In.

It was interesting, but didn't strike me as being anything special. Not sure why people are so enamored with it, but to each their own.

Deadite
02-01-13, 07:36 PM
Because it was a highly original vampire tale and a sensitive portrayal of two young outsiders becoming friends.

wintertriangles
02-01-13, 07:37 PM
My Life As A Dog and Let The Right One In would be an awesome childhood double feature

Deadite
02-01-13, 07:44 PM
What about Stand By Me?

Yoda
02-01-13, 08:30 PM
I tend to think the best parts of Let the Right One In are the visuals, which it's remarkably patient in building to. The shots in the pool, in particularly, are eerily beautiful, despite being horrifying. It doesn't use all the usual musical cues or camera movements to underline what's happening; it just happens. No telegraphing or anything. It's oddly striking. You don't even always realize how many cinematic conventions these kinds of films employ and the genre itself has accumulated until you see a genre film that scraps them.

Godoggo
02-01-13, 08:56 PM
My Life As A Dog and Let The Right One In would be an awesome childhood double feature

Heck ya!

honeykid
02-02-13, 01:16 AM
A little late and I know I posted it somewhere else, but I can't remember where.

Anyway, for anyone who's interested, here's the list I sent in.

1. Charlie's Angels
2. Chopper
3. Fever Pitch/The Perfect Catch
4. Confessions Of A Dangerous Mind
5. Black Dynamite
6. 50 First Dates
7. Ginger Snaps
8. Amelie
9. Monster's Inc
10. Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back
11. Gosford Park
12. City Of God
13. Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle
14. Death Proof/Grindhouse
15. The Lives Of Others
16. Downfall
17. Battle Royale
18. Bring It On
19. Hedwig And The Angry Inch
20. Catch Me If You Can
21. Dog Soldiers
22. Paradise Lost 2: Revelations
23. Touching The Void
24. Final Destination
25. Dead Man's Shoes

I might move a couple and I should've included In The Shadow Of The Moon, but other than that, I'm fine with it.

Miss Vicky
02-02-13, 01:21 AM
9. Monster's Inc
19. Hedwig And The Angry Inch
20. Catch Me If You Can


+rep for these. The rest I either haven't seen or don't like. Also thumbs up for voting for the movies you genuinely love most, rather than the ones that had the best chance of making the list.

Godoggo
02-02-13, 01:26 AM
I'm still flabbergasted at the stuff I left off my list. I didn't have Death Proof on my list and I love that movie.

Miss Vicky
02-02-13, 01:28 AM
The only one I don't know why I left off my list is Ghost World. But it made the countdown without my help anyway, so I'm not worried about it.

Thursday Next
02-02-13, 05:53 AM
Dog Soldiers is a good film.

HitchFan97
02-02-13, 12:50 PM
I had Gosford Park at around the same place on my list :)

Exist
02-02-13, 01:17 PM
I tend to think the best parts of Let the Right One In are the visuals, which it's remarkably patient in building to. The shots in the pool, in particularly, are eerily beautiful, despite being horrifying. It doesn't use all the usual musical cues or camera movements to underline what's happening; it just happens. No telegraphing or anything. It's oddly striking. You don't even always realize how many cinematic conventions these kinds of films employ and the genre itself has accumulated until you see a genre film that scraps them.

Unfortunately I saw the American remake first, very good but it's near sameness with the foreign film made it near pointless, nudge nudge.

The most striking difference in visuals between the films is the pool scene, much better with the original in my view, should probably also be in the shocking thread maybe?

rauldc14
02-02-13, 01:22 PM
honeykid, I do give you props for voting what you truly like. Fortunately, most of those movies never had a chance. Though I do enjoy 50 First Dates

honeykid
02-02-13, 06:22 PM
Thanks. :)

The point of the list, I thought, was for us to put up our favourite/best 25 films of the Millennium. I could've quite easily voted for 25 films I thought the majority of the voters would choose in order to 'have the most picks show up'.

Thursday Next
02-02-13, 07:08 PM
I'm not sure anyone voted in order to 'have the most picks show up', I just think we all hoped the movies we loved would make it. And I think it's true of everybody that some did, some didn't.

Harry Lime
02-02-13, 09:27 PM
What was #101?

Miss Vicky
02-02-13, 10:33 PM
I'm not sure anyone voted in order to 'have the most picks show up', I just think we all hoped the movies we loved would make it. And I think it's true of everybody that some did, some didn't.

Some people have already said that they omitted certain movies because they didn't feel those movies had any chance of making it.

donniedarko
02-03-13, 12:22 PM
I watched Lars and The Real Girl the other night, and TBH I think it's one of the worse
movies to make this list. The acting was great I can give it those props, but it was over extended. Ok we get it a weird guys in love with a sex doll, how long should that story be. The film also took itself way to seriously, if it really only pushed the comedy aspect it could be somewhat of a success. Just a really bad movie 1

Skepsis93
02-03-13, 12:35 PM
I watched Lars and The Real Girl the other night, and TBH I think it's one of the worse
movies to make this list. The acting was great I can give it those props, but it was over extended. Ok we get it a weird guys in love with a sex doll, how long should that story be. The film also took itself way to seriously, if it really only pushed the comedy aspect it could be somewhat of a success. Just a really bad movie 1

:facepalm:

It's precisely because they shunned the "oh look he's in love with a doll isn't that hilarious and weird" comedy aspect that makes it such a tender, touching and unlikely love story. It's about tolerance and non-judgement and understanding that people find unusual ways of dealing with pain and the importance of supporting those coping mechanisms while they are needed in order to eventually return to a "normal", productive life. To take it into the realms of mockery, like you seem to think it should have, would have been sleazy and downright stupid. Think you missed the point on this one mate.

donniedarko
02-03-13, 12:40 PM
:facepalm:

It's precisely because they shunned the "oh look he's in love with a doll isn't that hilarious and weird" comedy aspect that makes it such a tender, touching and unlikely love story. It's about tolerance and non-judgement and understanding that people find unusual ways of dealing with pain and the importance of supporting those coping mechanisms while they are needed in order to eventually return to a "normal", productive life. To take it into the realms of mockery, like you seem to think it should have, would have been sleazy and downright stupid. Think you missed the point on this one mate.

But let's be realistic here, A whole town wouldn't come together to hold a funeral for a doll, or let alone call an ambulance when it's sick. And I didn't find this sad at all, probably because that u don't pity Ryan Gosling (I can't look at the actor in a :( face),or it's because it's just to weird.

Skepsis93
02-03-13, 01:06 PM
But let's be realistic here, A whole town wouldn't come together to hold a funeral for a doll, or let alone call an ambulance when it's sick.

Probably not, but since when does the likelihood of certain events happening in real life affect a story as long as you can suspend your disbelief? Compared to most movies the events of Lars are not in the least bit hard to accept.

Sexy Celebrity
02-03-13, 03:02 PM
I watched Lars and The Real Girl the other night, and TBH I think it's one of the worse
movies to make this list. The acting was great I can give it those props, but it was over extended. Ok we get it a weird guys in love with a sex doll, how long should that story be. The film also took itself way to seriously, if it really only pushed the comedy aspect it could be somewhat of a success. Just a really bad movie 1

I love that movie. It's not one I wanna watch a lot, but Ryan Gosling is sexy as hell in it and it's so strange that someone that good looking can't get a real girlfriend and has to turn to a sex doll. It makes me have all sorts of fantasies about being an inanimate object for Ryan Gosling or being able to score him easily just by being alive. I also think the movie is funny as hell. And it's such a good movie for Ryan Gosling because I feel like he is an inanimate object himself - I say that with kindness, but with some annoyance, cause Ryan Gosling is stealing away my Jake Gyllenhaal's thunder from the rest of the world.

Miss Vicky, I noticed you haven't seen it. I think you would like it.

I'm glad it made the list. I didn't even vote for it.

Sexy Celebrity
02-03-13, 03:05 PM
But let's be realistic here, A whole town wouldn't come together to hold a funeral for a doll, or let alone call an ambulance when it's sick.

That's what makes it funnier, if you ask me. You're like -- OMG :eek:. These people are just as insane as him!

Miss Vicky
02-03-13, 08:49 PM
Miss Vicky, I noticed you haven't seen it. I think you would like it.



Maybe I'll rent it next weekend. I still need to watch Black Dynamite at hk's suggestion, too.

I think I'll slowly make my through the list until I've seen them all, well all except the third LOTR anyway.

Brodinski
02-04-13, 02:50 PM
MoFo Millenium Top 100: TRIVIA

These are the 10 films that just fell out:

101. Little Miss Sunshine: 36 points
102. The Bourne Ultimatum: 35 points
103. The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou: 35 points
104. Brothers: 35 points
105. Kill Bill: Volume 2: 34 points
106. Mystic River: 34 points
107. Up In The Air: 34 points
108. A Prophet: 33 points
109. Confessions of a Dangerous Mind: 33 points
110. Dogville: 31 points

Miss Vicky
02-04-13, 02:54 PM
Nope. Didn't vote for a single one of those. Also very happy Little Miss Sunshine didn't make the cut. I hated that movie.

donniedarko
02-04-13, 03:12 PM
Dissapointed that Brothers wa so close. I think I had it a number 6 on my list.

105. Kill Bill: Volume 2: 34 points
106. Mystic River: 34 points
107. Up In The Air: 34 points

These three are pretty damn good.

Dogville and A Prophet are both on my watch list.

Gabrielle947
02-04-13, 03:26 PM
ville and A Prophet are both on my watch list.
I would recommend you Dogville,I believe you'll like it since I'm not even a fan of such films and I enojoyed it. ;) Not sure about Prophet though.

ManOf1000Faces
02-04-13, 03:55 PM
Do we comment on what movies other people need to see or do we vote for certain movies.

honeykid
02-04-13, 04:00 PM
Who else had Confessions of a Dangerous Mind? I had it at #4. Did anyone just have Kill Bill Vol 2 on their list or are they all people who had both?

Miss Vicky
02-04-13, 04:01 PM
Do we comment on what movies other people need to see or do we vote for certain movies.

You're welcome to comment on any of the movies that made the countdown (or any that you felt should have made it) but the countdown itself is done. Voting for it ended months ago.

Godoggo
02-04-13, 06:25 PM
I called Little Miss Sunshine being at 101. :cool: I would definitely place it, Up in the Air, Dogville, The Life Aquatic, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, and Kill Bill 2 over some that made it, but LMS was the only one of those on my list.

Skepsis93
02-04-13, 09:09 PM
Bah! Shame about Little Miss Sunshine. I also like Up in the Air, Kill Bill and Mystic River but like Godoggo LMS was the the only one to make my list.

Sexy Celebrity
02-04-13, 10:09 PM
Dissapointed that Brothers wa so close. I think I had it a number 6 on my list.

Ohhhhhh man, I know!

I'm going to celebrate it anyway:

http://cinemaeargumento.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/brothersposter.jpg?w=500

# 104
Brothers
(2009, Sheridan)

35 points

This is all this bitch's fault:

http://muchnessandlight.typepad.com/.a/6a01348981d236970c0148c7c85fdb970c-320wi

I also had Little Miss Sunshine and Kill Bill: Volume 2 on my list.

I would have had 18 films total! :furiousdevil:

Miss Vicky
02-04-13, 10:11 PM
I haven't seen Brothers, but I'm very glad Hedwig made it over LMS and KBV2.

Sexy Celebrity
02-04-13, 10:13 PM
It is quite an accomplishment for Brothers, though, in that it beat Mystic River.

Sexy Celebrity
02-04-13, 10:16 PM
Let's change this to the The MoFo Millenium Top 105.

Then I will have 18 movies right.

Sexy Celebrity
02-04-13, 10:20 PM
Did anyone just have Kill Bill Vol 2 on their list or are they all people who had both?

I only had Volume 2 on my list. I didn't include Volume 1. I love that movie, but Volume 2 is better.

rauldc14
02-06-13, 03:01 PM
For the 5th time, Mystic River was cruelly robbed.

rauldc14
02-06-13, 03:03 PM
Thanks. :)

The point of the list, I thought, was for us to put up our favourite/best 25 films of the Millennium. I could've quite easily voted for 25 films I thought the majority of the voters would choose in order to 'have the most picks show up'.

I agree. Looking back on it, I should have included Wedding Crashers and State of Play though neither had a chance. For the 90s one, I'm voting favorites regardless of if they have a genuine shot or not.

Thursday Next
02-06-13, 05:56 PM
Just watched Gone Baby Gone and thought it was completely ridiculous.

rauldc14
02-06-13, 06:29 PM
Just watched Gone Baby Gone and thought it was completely ridiculous.

You are ridiculous:p

Yoda
02-06-13, 06:30 PM
The whole system's ridiculous!

stevo3001
02-07-13, 11:51 AM
MoFo Millenium Top 100: TRIVIA

These are the 10 films that just fell out:

101. Little Miss Sunshine: 36 points
102. The Bourne Ultimatum: 35 points
103. The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou: 35 points
104. Brothers: 35 points
105. Kill Bill: Volume 2: 34 points
106. Mystic River: 34 points
107. Up In The Air: 34 points
108. A Prophet: 33 points
109. Confessions of a Dangerous Mind: 33 points
110. Dogville: 31 points

Some fortunate escapes for the top 100. Mystic River is arguably an even bigger pile of turgid old claptrap than Million Dollar Baby; Kill Bill Volume 2 is the first of Tarantino's continuing streak of bad films, where his tired and tiresome dialogue (especially from that absolute bore, Bill) heavily outweighs the decreasing glimmers of imagination; and Brothers is just laughable, with a performance from Tobey Maguire that I'd rank as one of the worst by a lead actor in a decent-sized Hollywood film so far this millennium.

honeykid
02-08-13, 04:20 AM
Mystic worse than MDB? You, sir, are a cad and a fool! I challenge you to a crap-off! :D

Sexy Celebrity
02-08-13, 11:52 AM
I'll never forgive myself for putting Hedwig 2nd on my list... never... it's worse knowing Honeykid is proud of me for that.

Miss Vicky
02-08-13, 12:01 PM
I'm glad you did, SC. If Hedwig hadn't made this list I might never have watched it and that would be a shame.

Sexy Celebrity
02-09-13, 09:01 AM
Alright, I am gonna try to watch that movie again, today or tomorrow -- Hedwig.

honeykid
02-09-13, 10:20 AM
I'll never forgive myself for putting Hedwig 2nd on my list... never... it's worse knowing Honeykid is proud of me for that.
Surely it's better than having nothing of which I'm proud. :p

Sexy Celebrity
02-09-13, 10:31 AM
Surely it's better than having nothing of which I'm proud. :p

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=10029&stc=1&d=1360420167

It's a Whoopi Little Town, Honeykid, with Hedwhoopi.

Sexy Celebrity
02-10-13, 08:32 AM
I just finished writing up a lengthy Hedwig and the Angry Inch review -- I speak more about myself than the movie, though. (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=877870)

Miss Vicky
02-12-13, 01:58 AM
Just watched Black Dynamite.

It was mildly amusing, but I wasn't crazy about it. To be fair though, I'm sure I would've gotten more enjoyment out of it if I'd ever actually seen any of the old Blaxsploitation films it's parodying.

TheUsualSuspect
02-12-13, 02:33 AM
Wow Shaun of the Dead didn't make the next ten? How can that be? I saw it on so many lists!!!!

Thursday Next
02-13-13, 06:36 PM
Just watched Punch-Drunk Love. I can't quite pin down what I disliked about it, but it grated on me all the way through. I shouldn't have been surprised since I don't like Adam Sandler or PT Anderson, but I had hopes this might be good anyway. I was disappointed.

rauldc14
03-01-13, 08:59 PM
Just watched Signs yet again. I hadn't seen it in awhile, but to be honest, I think I highly underestimate that film. It is in my last top 100, but I think it merits top 50 (at least) consideration. It would probably make my top 25 millenium list if it was redone.

rauldc14
04-02-13, 11:44 PM
Just watched Punch-Drunk Love too. And I as well, don't get the hype. My patience for PTA is slowly dwindling.

wintertriangles
04-03-13, 12:21 AM
Just watched Punch-Drunk Love too. And I as well, don't get the hype. My patience for PTA is slowly dwindling....what hype?

Cobpyth
04-03-13, 08:57 AM
Just watched Punch-Drunk Love too. And I as well, don't get the hype. My patience for PTA is slowly dwindling.

It's just a sweet, well directed, funny movie from Paul Thomas Anderson. There is certainly no hype.

honeykid
04-03-13, 06:30 PM
I guess that depends on your definition of hype. If you mean Hollywood/advertising/merchandise, then, no, there's very little hype for PDL. However, if you mean 'everyone' telling anyone who'll listen that it's a great/brilliant/wonderful film, then there's nothing but hype, as I rarely hear anything but that.

I've not bothered with it because I don't really like PTA or get excited about his films.

rauldc14
04-03-13, 11:14 PM
"hype", as in #30 on the MOFO Millenium List. If that's not hype not sure what is.

Thursday Next
04-26-13, 06:25 AM
Finally watched The Assassination of Jesse James By the Coward Robert Ford.

Somewhere in here is a tense, beautifully photographed two hour film.

Unfortunately it's forty minutes too long, with too many narrated sections that grated on me - it felt at time as though it was just an audiobook with nice moving pictures rather than a successful translation of the book into the medium of film. I do think it was badly paced - not because it was slow, nothing wrong with slow, but because it was uneven.

The music was very good, though.

Miss Vicky
04-26-13, 11:09 AM
^That's pretty much how I felt about it.

Thursday Next
02-07-14, 05:42 AM
Continuing to check off movies from this list, I watched Synecdoche New York last night. I think this may be the single most weird and depressing film I have ever watched.

Holden Pike
03-18-14, 11:29 AM
Of no consequence at all, but I reckon this here would have been my submission for the Millennium List (with each film's place on the finished list, if any)...

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=13314&stc=1&d=1395152939
1. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada (#65)
2. Dancer in the Dark (#38)
3. The Tree of Life (#62)
4. The Artist (#88)
5. Revanche
6. 4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days
7. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (#2)
8. Waltz with Bashir
9. Talk to Her (#35)
10. Children of Men (#11)
11. Amélie (#10)
12. The Lives of Others (#34)
13. The Pianist (#36)
14. Lost in Translation (#7)
15. Dogville
16. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
17. Wonder Boys (#39)
18. Memento (#17)
19. No Country for Old Men (#9)
20. Adaptation. (#55)
21. The Royal Tenenbaums (#27)
22. Zodiac (#16)
23. Synecdoche, New York (#79)
24. Grizzly Man
25. Letters from Iwo Jima

Very glad to see my favorite movie, Tommy Lee Jones' The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada, made the list...albiet in the bottom half. I doubt my potential nineteen points for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind would have carried it to the number one spot over The Fellowship of the Ring, but glad it finished so high. A bunch of mine seemed to finish in the middle somewhere (Adaptation, Wonder Boys, The Lives of Others, The Pianist, Talk to Her), but quite happy to see that No Country for Old Men, Amélie and Children of Men were at nine, ten, and eleven. Dogville just missed the top hundred and Dancer in the Dark cracked the top forty, which brings a subtle pang of joy to this defeated and weary Von Trier-lovin' heart that will soon be brutally extinguished by the inhumanity of man.

I think Letters from Iwo Jima is Eastwood's best of the new millennium, but am not surprised that Gran Torino and Million Dollar Baby got more votes. Once again, not shocked that no documentaries made the list, but for me Grizzly Man is still riveting and so very, very Herzogian. I know I am in the minority in how much I like Fincher's The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, but glad (and a bit surprised) that The Social Network placed so highly, anyway. I think Waltz with Bashir is the best war movie made in the 2000s thus far, I hope more and more of you catch up with it, and seeing as how many great foreign films made the list I know it can't simply be that element that kept Revanche and 4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days from placing here. Oh, well.

Overall, a good list...with only a couple exceptions (frippin' Spider-Man 2? Really?!?).

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=13315&stc=1&d=1395153344

Guaporense
03-18-14, 12:19 PM
Overall, a good list...with only a couple exceptions (frippin' Spider-Man 2? Really?!?).

I liked Spider Man 2 more than most movies in that top 25 list you posted. I don't understand the hated, it's an almost perfect translation of the spirit of the comic books into a film. No other superhero film is as good as being a pure superhero film as Spider Man 2.

In terms of 21st century war-films I think that Downfall is better than Waltz with Bashir. Though Waltz with Bashir is pretty good too.

Sexy Celebrity
03-18-14, 12:58 PM
Overall, a good list...with only a couple exceptions (frippin' Spider-Man 2? Really?!?).

This is why you're overrated as a movie expert.

Guaporense all the way.

Camo
03-18-14, 01:01 PM
This would've been roughly my list.

1.There Will Be Blood - Paul Thomas Anderson (2007)
2.Pan's Labyrinth - Guillermo Del Toro (2006)
3.Sweet Sixteen - Ken Loach (2002)
4.Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room - Alex Gibney (2005)
5.Mulholland Drive - David Lynch (2001)
6.The Dark Knight - Christopher Nolan (2008)
7.Team America: World Police - Trey Parker (2004)
8.City of God - Fernando Meirelles (2002)
9.Monsters Inc - Pete Docter (2001)
10.Catch Me If You Can - Steven Spielberg (2002)
11.The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - Peter Jackson (2003)
12.Oldboy - Park Chan-wook (2003)
13.The Aviator - Martin Scorcese (2004)
14.Hero - Zhang Yimou (2002)
15.The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Peter Jackson (2001)
16.Almost Famous - Cameron Crowe (2000)
17.The Incredibles - Brad Bird (2004)
18.Lost In Translation - Sofia Coppola (2003)
19. A History of Violence - David Cronenberg (2005)
20.King of Kong - Seth Gordon (2007)
21.Punch Drunk Love - Paul Thomas Anderson (2010)
22.Neds - Peter Mullan (2010)
23.Batman Begins - Christopher Nolan (2005)
24.Hustle & Flow - Craig Brewer (2005)
25.American Psycho - Mary Harron (2000)

Holden Pike
03-18-14, 01:32 PM
I liked Spider Man 2 more than most movies in that top 25 list you posted. I don't understand the hated, it's an almost perfect translation of the spirit of the comic books into a film. No other superhero film is as good as being a pure superhero film as Spider Man 2.

Yup, I'm just a grouchy old art movie snob. It's not like I have thousands of comic books in my collection and know more about Spider-Man than Sam Raimi has forgotten. I get, appreciate, and love comic books and comic book movies....and to me, Spider-Man 2 is a Hella awful flick.

But, to each their own. Happily!


In terms of 21st century war-films I think that Downfall is better than Waltz with Bashir. Though Waltz with Bashir is pretty good too.

Downfall is fantastic, as well, no question.

Daniel M
03-18-14, 01:35 PM
Where the hell is Caché on the list? ;)

Edit: And Inland Empire!

TokeZa
03-18-14, 01:41 PM
I would like to join in, this would be my list:

1. Werckmeister Harmonies (2000) by Béla Tarr and Ágnes Hranitzky
2. Caché (2005) by Michael Haneke
3. Mulholland Drive (2001) by David Lynch
4. Yi Yi: A One and a Two by Edward Yang
5. Twentynine Palms (2003) by Bruno Dumont
6. 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (2007) by Cristian Mungiu
7. Spirited Away (2002) by Hayao Miyazaki
8. White Material (2009) by Claire Denis
9. The Limits of Control (2009) by Jim Jarmusch
10. Hadewijch (2009) by Bruno Dumont
11. Outer Space (2000) by Peter Tscherkassky
12. Stellet licht (2007) by Carlos Reygadas
13. Der Freie Wille (2006) by Matthias Glasner
14. Three Monkeys (2008) by Nuri Bilge Ceylan
15. Antichrist (2009) by Lars von Trier
16. Still Life (2006) by Jia Zhang-Ke
17. In the Mood for Love (2000) by Wong Kar Wai
18. Flight of the Red Balloon (2008) by Hou Hsiao-Hsien
19. The White Ribbon (2009) by Michael Haneke
20. The Royal Tenenbaums (2001) by Wes Anderson
21. Disorder (2009) by Huang Weikai
22. Grizzly Man (2005) by Werner Herzog
23. Les Plages d'Agnès (2008) by Agnès Varda
24. Flanders (2006) by Bruno Dumont
25. Paprika (2006) by Satoshi Kon

Sexy Celebrity
03-18-14, 01:43 PM
Yup, I'm just a grouchy old art movie snob. It's not like I have thousands of comic books in my collection and know more about Spider-Man than Sam Raimi has forgotten. I get, appreciate, and love comic books and comic book movies....and to me, Spider-Man 2 is a Hella awful flick.

Oh, really? Worse than that Three Mosquitos movie you're always yammering on about (?) -- and that BJORK thing -- and that godawful The Artist -- and I haven't seen Tree of Life, but I've heard bad things and I can believe it because it's Terrence Malick.

A couple of your movies I can understand, but for the most part, your taste is dry dog food.

Yoda
03-18-14, 01:45 PM
Worse than that Three Mosquitos movie
I don't care how misguided the rant is; this is funny.

mark f
03-18-14, 01:54 PM
Sexy should be the first to know that the 2000s is just not '80s. It really is the double zeros. :)

Daniel M
03-18-14, 02:25 PM
My list now would be something like:

1. Inland Empire
2. Caché
3. Werckmeister Harmonies
4. Inglourious Basterds
5. No Country for Old Men
6. There Will Be Blood
7. Fantastic Mr. Fox
8. Death Proof
9. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
10. Before Sunset
11. Eastern Promises
12. Punch-Drunk Love
13. Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
14. A Prophet
15. The Bourne Ultimatum
16. Chicken Run
17. Mullholland Drive
18. Kill Bill Vol. 2
19. Sin City
20. The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada
21. Monsters, Inc.
22. The Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
23. American Psycho
24. WALL-E
25. Up

Cobpyth
03-18-14, 03:04 PM
I'm just posting my top 25 from the 2000s (so from 2000-2009):

http://i.imgur.com/7Mzkjkh.jpg

1. In the Mood For Love (2000)
2. Spirited Away (2001)
3. Millennium Actress (2001)
4. The Man Who Wasn’t There (2001)
5. Inglourious Basterds (2009)
6. O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
7. There Will Be Blood (2007)
8. Oldboy (2003)
9. Gosford Park (2001)
10. Kill Bill Vol. 1 (2003)
11. Good Night, and Good Luck. (2005)
12. Intolerable Cruelty (2003)
13. Fantastic Mr. Fox (2009)
14. Sin City (2005)
15. Confessions of a Dangerous Mind (2002)
16. Mulholland Drive (2001)
17. The Incredibles (2004)
18. Lost in Translation (2003)
19. Kill Bill Vol. 2 (2004)
20. The Departed (2006)
21. American Psycho (2000)
22. Punch-Drunk Love (2002)
23. Match Point (2005)
24. The Aviator (2004)
25. Up in the Air (2009)

These are some that came VERY close:

WALL-E
The Curious Case of Benjamin Button
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
Closer
Bad Santa
Solaris
Chicago
Catch Me If You Can
About Schmidt
The Royal Tenenbaums

Thursday Next
03-18-14, 05:02 PM
Where were all you people who like In the Mood For Love and 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days when we made the list?

Cobpyth
03-18-14, 05:07 PM
Where were all you people who like In the Mood For Love and 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days when we made the list?

I hadn't discovered this forum yet.

mark f
03-18-14, 05:21 PM
They were being held captive a la Oldboy.

rauldc14
03-18-14, 06:08 PM
Said it before, but don't like eastern promises or royal tenenbaums much.

Sane
03-18-14, 07:06 PM
My list as of today (but I wouldn't have voted for most of these at the time):

1. In the Mood For Love - Wong Kar Wai
2. 3-Iron - Kim Ki Duk
3. Oldboy - Park Chan Wook
4. Dolls - Takeshi Kitano
5. Dancer in the Dark - Lars Von Trier
6. Spring, Summer ... - Kim Ki Duk
7. All About Lily Chou-Chou - Shunji Iwai
8. Hero - Zhang Yimou
9. Breathless - Yang Ik Joon
10. Oasis - Lee Chang Dong
11. Avatar - James Cameron
12. Dogville - Lars Von Trier
13. Talk to Her - Pedro Almodovar
14. The Departed - Martin Scorsese
15. Yi Yi - Edward Yang
16. City of God - Katia Lund/Fernando Meirelles
17. 2046 - Wong Kar Wai
18. American Psycho - Mary Harron
19. Disco Pigs - Kirsten Sheridan
20. Downfall - Oliver Hirschbiegel
21. Memories of Matsuko - Tetsuya Nakashima
22. Hunger - Steve McQueen
23. Last Train Home - Lixin Fan
24. Cache - Michael Haneke
25. Mary & Max - Adam Elliot

Great decade for Asian films.

Camo
03-18-14, 07:33 PM
Said it before, but don't like eastern promises or royal tenenbaums much.

I didn't like The Royal Tenenbaums much either. The only Wes Anderson films i have enjoyed so far are Bottle Rocket,Rushmore and Moonrise Kingdom, and i have yet to see Fantastic Mr. Fox or The Grand Budapest Hotel. Eastern Promises was ok but i preffered A History Of Violence.

bluedeed
03-18-14, 07:37 PM
My back of the envelope list. The titles can get partially arbitrary making it just now, and the ordering is certainly arbitrary (save for the top 2) throughout:

1. Werckmeister Harmonies - Bela Tarr
2. Tropical Malady - Apichatpong Weerasethakul
3. In the Mood for Love - Wong Kar-Wai
4. Flight of the Red Balloon - Hou Hsiao-Hsien
5. Yi Yi - Edward Yang
6. The New World - Terrence Malick
7. Before Sunset - Richard Linklater
8. Ten - Abbas Kiarostami
9. Still Life - Jia Zhang-ke
10. Blissfully Yours - Apichatpong Weerasethakul
11. Inland Empire - David Lynch
12. Still Walking - Hirokazu Koreeda
13. Mother - Bong Joon-ho
14. Silent Light - Carlos Reygadas
15. Virgin Stripped Bare by Her Bachelors - Hong Sang-soo
16. Syndromes and a Century - Apichatpong Weerasethakul
17. Goodbye Dragon Inn - Tsai Ming-Liang
18. Secret Sunshine - Lee Chang-Dong
19. Cache - Michael Haneke
20. Summer Hours - Olivier Assayas
21. Mulholland Drive - David Lynch
22. Cafe Lumiere - Hou Hsiao-Hsien
23. No Country for Old Men - Coen Brothers
24. White Material - Claire Denis
25. The World - Jia Zhang-ke

Cobpyth
03-18-14, 07:39 PM
Damn, In the Mood For Love would have been rather high on the list if we'd made this list now.

jiraffejustin
03-18-14, 07:43 PM
A 2000s redux would be cool.

Camo
03-18-14, 07:44 PM
My back of the envelope list. The titles can get partially arbitrary making it just now, and the ordering is certainly arbitrary (save for the top 2) throughout:

1. Werckmeister Harmonies - Bela Tarr
2. Tropical Malady - Apichatpong Weerasethakul
3. In the Mood for Love - Wong Kar-Wai
4. Flight of the Red Balloon - Hou Hsiao-Hsien
5. Yi Yi - Edward Yang
6. The New World - Terrence Malick
7. Before Sunset - Richard Linklater
8. Ten - Abbas Kiarostami
9. Still Life - Jia Zhang-ke
10. Blissfully Yours - Apichatpong Weerasethakul
11. Inland Empire - David Lynch
12. Still Walking - Hirokazu Koreeda
13. Mother - Bong Joon-ho
14. Silent Light - Carlos Reygadas
15. Virgin Stripped Bare by Her Bachelors - Hong Sang-soo
16. Syndromes and a Century - Apichatpong Weerasethakul
17. Goodbye Dragon Inn - Tsai Ming-Liang
18. Secret Sunshine - Lee Chang-Dong
19. Cache - Michael Haneke
20. Summer Hours - Olivier Assayas
21. Mulholland Drive - David Lynch
22. Cafe Lumiere - Hou Hsiao-Hsien
23. No Country for Old Men - Coen Brothers
24. White Material - Claire Denis
25. The World - Jia Zhang-ke

Interesting list, alot of suggestions for me here, thanks. Can i ask is your top ten in you profile a top ten of different directors? Because i noticed Satantango is there from Tarr yet Werckmeister Harmonies isn't and you have Tropical Malady there but it's number 2 here?

bluedeed
03-18-14, 07:49 PM
Interesting list, alot of suggestions for me here, thanks. Can i ask is your top ten in you profile a top ten of different directors? Because i noticed Satantango is there from Tarr yet Werckmeister Harmonies isn't and you have Tropical Malady there but it's number 2 here?

Yeah, my top ten is more along the lines of a ten favorite directors list (otherwise there'd be too many Ozu films!) just because it better expresses my tastes. I consider Werckmeister Harmonies to be somewhat better than Tropical Malady the same way I'd consider The Story of the Last Chrysanthemums better than Satantango.

Camo
03-18-14, 07:50 PM
Damn, In the Mood For Love would have been rather high on the list if we'd made this list now.

I doubt that would've been the case. Remember that along with all the votes for In the Mood For Love and others there would've been plenty of votes for the movies above it most likely. I'd imagine it would make the top 50 but i doubt the top 40.

Sexy Celebrity
03-18-14, 07:52 PM
1.) The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
2.) Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
3.) The Dark Knight
4.) Mulholland Drive
5.) There Will Be Blood
6.) City of God

Here it is!

The post!

The post where I guessed the order of the Top 6 Millennium movies correctly!

It's on page 102.

http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=869124#post869124

jiraffejustin
03-18-14, 07:58 PM
Never forget. *moment of silence*

Sexy Celebrity
03-18-14, 07:59 PM
Thank you.

Nostromo87
03-18-14, 08:10 PM
Never forget. *moment of silence*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoiV7c46C1A

Sexy Celebrity
03-18-14, 08:12 PM
Wow... a full hour of silence for me.....

Miss Vicky
03-18-14, 08:55 PM
A 2000s redux would be cool.

It's way too soon for that.

An All-Time Redux is about due though. Next year will be five years since the last one.

bluedeed
03-18-14, 08:58 PM
It's way too soon for that.

An All-Time Redux is about due though. Next year will be five years since the last one.

An ambitious MoFo could do that whenever by pulling from the top 10 of all of the reasonably active users for a rough estimate. Transformers: Age of Extinction is getting at least 25 points!

Guaporense
03-18-14, 09:18 PM
I actually did just that for another forum with top tens. I got about 40 top 10 lists before I gave up.

cricket
03-18-14, 10:16 PM
I also missed this countdown; this would've been my list-

1. The Devil's Rejects (2005)
2. Wonderland (2003)
3. The Wrestler (2008)
4. The Departed (2006)
5. The Town (2010)
6. City of God (2002)
7. The Hangover (2009)
8. No Country for Old Men (2007)
9. Warrior (2011)
10. Beerfest (2006)
11. I Saw the Devil (2010)
12. Sin City (2005)
13. Mystic River (2003)
14. Snatch (2000)
15. Old School (2003)
16. Wolf Creek (2005)
17. Sideways (2004)
18. Bellflower (2011)
19. There will be Blood (2007)
20. The Ice Harvest (2005)
21. X Men: First Class (2011)
22. Red White & Blue (2010)
23. Layer Cake (2004)
24. Observe and Report (2009)
25. The Mist (2007)

TokeZa
03-19-14, 03:03 AM
My back of the envelope list. The titles can get partially arbitrary making it just now, and the ordering is certainly arbitrary (save for the top 2) throughout:

1. Werckmeister Harmonies - Bela Tarr
2. Tropical Malady - Apichatpong Weerasethakul
3. In the Mood for Love - Wong Kar-Wai
4. Flight of the Red Balloon - Hou Hsiao-Hsien
5. Yi Yi - Edward Yang
6. The New World - Terrence Malick
7. Before Sunset - Richard Linklater
8. Ten - Abbas Kiarostami
9. Still Life - Jia Zhang-ke
10. Blissfully Yours - Apichatpong Weerasethakul
11. Inland Empire - David Lynch
12. Still Walking - Hirokazu Koreeda
13. Mother - Bong Joon-ho
14. Silent Light - Carlos Reygadas
15. Virgin Stripped Bare by Her Bachelors - Hong Sang-soo
16. Syndromes and a Century - Apichatpong Weerasethakul
17. Goodbye Dragon Inn - Tsai Ming-Liang
18. Secret Sunshine - Lee Chang-Dong
19. Cache - Michael Haneke
20. Summer Hours - Olivier Assayas
21. Mulholland Drive - David Lynch
22. Cafe Lumiere - Hou Hsiao-Hsien
23. No Country for Old Men - Coen Brothers
24. White Material - Claire Denis
25. The World - Jia Zhang-ke

I really need to revisit / reexplore Apichatpong Weerasethakul. I feel like i for insctance didn't fully grasp Tropical Malady the first time i saw it.

I hard a reallly hard time getting trough Ten by Abbas Kiarostami, but its also one of his tougher works imo.

Im reallly surprised that No Country for Old Men is on your list. It's definitely an ok / good movie but yeah overrated imho.

Nice list!

Miss Vicky
03-19-14, 03:34 AM
Here's the list I submitted for the countdown:


1. Quills
2. Gladiator
3. Ratatouille
4. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
5. Brotherhood of the Wolf (Le Pacte Des Loups)
6. Bubba Ho-Tep
7. The Departed
8. Milk
9. 3:10 to Yuma
10. The Cell
11. Up
12. Catch Me If You Can
13. A Mighty Wind
14. Saved!
15. Zodiac
16. Tropic Thunder
17. WALL·E
18. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
19. Blood Diamond
20. The Libertine
21. Cold Mountain
22. Black Snake Moan
23. Doubt
24. The Reader
25. Walk the Line


What it would look like if I did it today:

1. Quills
2. Gladiator
3. Up
4. Ratatouille
5. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
6. Bubba Ho-Tep
7. Hedwig and the Angry Inch
8. Mary and Max.
9. Black Snake Moan
10. 3:10 to Yuma
11. The Departed
12. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
13. Brotherhood of the Wolf (Le Pacte Des Loups)
14. Milk
15. The Cell
16. Ghost World
17. The Libertine
18. Zodiac
19. Walk the Line
20. WALL·E
21. Catch Me If You Can
22. Surf's Up
23. A Mighty Wind
24. Saved!
25. Over the Hedge

jal90
03-19-14, 08:13 AM
100. The Bourne identity
99. Iron Man
98. Hedwig and the Angry Inch 5
97. Black Dynamite
96. O brother, where art thou?
95. Master and Commander: The far side of the world
94. Brotherhood of the Wolf
93. The Girl with the dragon tattoo
92. Rise of the planet of the apes
91. American splendor
90. Spider-man 2
89. The Darjeeling limited 3
88. The artist 4.5
87. Good night, and good luck 3
86. Quills
85. The help
84. Lars and the real girl
83. Monsters, Inc. 5
82. Once 5
81. The wrestler 4.5
80. Requiem for a dream 4
79. Synecdoche, New York 5
78. Traffic
77. King Kong
76. Brokeback Mountain 4
75. Brick 4.5
74. Pirates of the Caribbean: The curse of the Black Pearl 4.5
73. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring
72. Gangs of New York
71. Sunshine 3
70. Man on fire
69. Gladiator 3.5
68. Hero 4
67. Road to perdition 4.5
66. Gone baby gone
65. The three burials of Melquiadas Estrada
64. Gran Torino
63. Signs
62. Tree of life 3.5
61.True grit
60. Sideways 4
59. Werckmeister harmonies 4
58. Million Dollar Baby
57. The Incredibles
56. Sin City 4.5
55. Adaptation 5
54. American psycho
53. Juno 4.5
52. Crash 3.5
51. Batman begins
50. Solaris
49. Drive 5
48. Battle Royale 3
47. Moon 4.5
46. Kill Bill: Volume 1 4
45. Ghost World
44. Finding Nemo 4
43. Downfall 5
42. The King's speech
41. Let the right one in 4.5
40. A history of violence 4.5
39. Wonder Boys
38. Dancer in the dark 4.5
37. Ratatouille 5
36. The pianist 5
35. Talk to her
34. The lives of others 4.5
33. The prestige
32. Almost famous
31. The fountain 2.5
30. Punch-drunk love 3
29. Toy Story 3 5
28. Unbreakable 4.5
27. The royal Tenenbaums 4.5
26. Spirited away 5
25. Black swan 5
24. Inception 4
23. The Lord of the Rings: The two towers 5
22. The social network 5
21. Wall-E 5
20. Oldboy 5
19. The assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford 3
18. Pan's labyrinth
17. Memento 4.5
16. Zodiac
15. Donnie Darko 5
14. The Lord of the Rings: The return of the king 5
13. Up 5
12. The departed
11. Children of men 3
10. Amelie 4.5
9. No country for old men 4
8. Inglorious basterds 4
7. Lost in translation 2
6. City of God 5
5. There will be blood
4. Mulholland Drive 4
3. The Dark Knight 5
2. Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind 5
1. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring 5

That's 61/100. And now, on my current list:

1. Spirited away (2001)
2. Little Miss Sunshine (2006)
3. Toy Story 3 (2010)
4. Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind (2004)
5. Monsters, Inc. (2001)
6. 25th hour (2002)
7. Kill Bill: Volume 2 (2004)
8. OldBoy (2003)
9. Downfall (2004)
10. Big Fish (2003)
11. Lord of the Rings: The two towers (2002)
12. The secret in their eyes (2009)
13. Wall-e (2008)
14. Millennium Actress (2001)
15. City of God (2002)
16. Blue is the warmest color (2013)
17. Day of the wacko (2002)
18. The man who wasn't there (2001)
19. Hedwig and the Angry Inch (2001)
20. Mary and Max (2009)
21. Adaptation. (2002)
22. The illusionist (2010)
23. Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001)
24. Donnie Darko (2001)
25. Coraline (2009)

Heh, too bad I missed this top. I could have put Little Miss Sunshine and Kill Bill: Volume 2 in the list. I'm honestly surprised at the lack of 25th hour.

honeykid
03-19-14, 09:30 AM
All these lists just remind me of how crap the Noughties were. It's not the fault of the people submitting lists, there just wasn't much worse listing.

wintertriangles
03-19-14, 09:33 AM
Every decade has loads of quality, you're crazy sir, it just depends where you look.

Mr Minio
03-19-14, 09:52 AM
There's so much arthouse masterpieces in the Noughties it's beyond comprehension.

wintertriangles
03-19-14, 09:56 AM
When we redo this list, I expect to see Love Exposure and a couple other Shion Sonos

honeykid
03-19-14, 10:06 AM
But there's so little that I love there. Even my own 25 that I sent in. I couldn't find 25 films that I loved. Like the 50's, it's just a decade I don't work with at all. There are 3 films on the 100 that I love, Black Dynamite, Monster's Inc and Amelie, and another that's close, Hedwig And The Angry Inch. There are really good films that I like, City Of God, Unbreakable, Downfall, Zodiac and The Lives of Others, but the others are either OK-good films that I like or films I really didn't like at all.

For me, the top 10 reads thus:

10. Amelie = Great. Truly love it.
9. No country for old men = Made it 40 minutes in six years ago. Haven't been interested enough to go back to it yet, though I do plan to.
8. Inglorious basterds = No. Massively overrated. Looks great, but that's about all it has going for it.
7. Lost in translation = Haven't been interested enough to see.
6. City of God = Really liked it. It's possibly something I may love should I watch it more.
5. There will be blood = Probably the most boring C21st film I've seen. I'm talking about approaching Kubrickesque levels of boredom.
4. Mulholland Drive = Not seen. Think I own it, so will do one day.
3. The Dark Knight = Really? Fanboy fodder. It happened, it finished, I barely remember a damn thing that happened in it from the moment I stopped watching it. Not saying it wasn't well made, etc, simply that I couldn't be less interested.
2. Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind = This was OK. Nothing special and I became a little bored by the end, but it was OK.
1. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring = Best of the trilogy, but still massively boring. At least Sean Bean dies. Best bit of the whole trilogy.

bluedeed
03-19-14, 10:40 AM
I really need to revisit / reexplore Apichatpong Weerasethakul. I feel like i for insctance didn't fully grasp Tropical Malady the first time i saw it.

I hard a reallly hard time getting trough Ten by Abbas Kiarostami, but its also one of his tougher works imo.

Im reallly surprised that No Country for Old Men is on your list. It's definitely an ok / good movie but yeah overrated imho.

Nice list!

Like I said, it was pretty back of the envelope, so I'm definitely forgetting about some greater movies, this was just what I could pull together from memory quickly. Weerasethakul's features from what I can tell got more accessible each time, with the big exception of Uncle Boonmee. Tropical Malady is where his cinema finally clicked with me for whatever reason that I do not know.

Ten is a series of conversations, none of which are designed to excite or have punch lines. It's shot flatly on DV with a fixed camera setup and only once leaves it's normal perspective from the dashboard of the car. It's by no means a conventionally entertaining movie, but its discourse is fascinating and the way that Kiarostami creates with so few resources is a highly innovative feet. Ten struck me as a perfect diagnosis of the deeply flawed social constructs of Iranian society. The little boy is fascinating in the way he comes off initially as a bratty kid yelling at his mother, but we come to realize that he's really the product of a sexist society and takes dominance over his mother as a woman.

Guaporense
03-19-14, 03:08 PM
When we redo this list, I expect to see Love Exposure and a couple other Shion Sonos

Oh yeah, Love Exposure. Great film, about 4_5. Though it would barely miss my top 25 of the 2000-2009:

1. Spirited Away
2. Lord of the Rings (put the 1st one if required)
3. There Will Be Blood
4. Gladiator
5. The Lives of Others
6. City of God
7. Howl's Moving Castle
8. Mulholland Dr.
9. Millennium Actress
10. EVA 2.0
11. Summer Wars
12. Downfall
13. A.I. Artificial Intelligence
14. The Pianist
15. 5 Centimeters per Second
16. Paprika
17. Summer Days With Coo
18. Ponyo
19. The Aviator
20. Master and Commander
21. District 9
22. Hot Fuzz
23. Wall-E
24. The Place Promised in Our Early Days
25. Watchmen

Including the modest amount of 10 animations. I noticed the lack of Miyazaki's films beyond his most famous one (Spirited Away), although Spirited Away is indeed his best film in the decade, his other films are still better than almost anything else produced during that time.

Guaporense
03-19-14, 03:12 PM
But there's so little that I love there. Even my own 25 that I sent in. I couldn't find 25 films that I loved. Like the 50's, it's just a decade I don't work with at all. There are 3 films on the 100 that I love, Black Dynamite, Monster's Inc and Amelie, and another that's close, Hedwig And The Angry Inch. There are really good films that I like, City Of God, Unbreakable, Downfall, Zodiac and The Lives of Others, but the others are either OK-good films that I like or films I really didn't like at all.

For me, the top 10 reads thus:

10. Amelie = Great. Truly love it.
9. No country for old men = Made it 40 minutes in six years ago. Haven't been interested enough to go back to it yet, though I do plan to.
8. Inglorious basterds = No. Massively overrated. Looks great, but that's about all it has going for it.
7. Lost in translation = Haven't been interested enough to see.
6. City of God = Really liked it. It's possibly something I may love should I watch it more.
5. There will be blood = Probably the most boring C21st film I've seen. I'm talking about approaching Kubrickesque levels of boredom.

PTA indeed tried consciously to mix in Kubrick into that film.

4. Mulholland Drive = Not seen. Think I own it, so will do one day.

I think it's excellent, probably Lynch's best among those I watched and certainly top 3-4.

3. The Dark Knight = Really? Fanboy fodder. It happened, it finished, I barely remember a damn thing that happened in it from the moment I stopped watching it. Not saying it wasn't well made, etc, simply that I couldn't be less interested.

It's like the highest rated 21st century film on the IMDB so I went to the movie theater with high expectations for it. I though it was a very good flick, overall, but nothing really special.

Guaporense
03-19-14, 03:20 PM
Where were all you people who like In the Mood For Love and 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days when we made the list?

Spirited Away would be way higher as well.

I didn't watch 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days but I didn't find Mood for Love to be that good. I watched it with very high expectations, in the end it was satisfactory but not exactly my type of movie (though some people say that Shinkai's films express similar feelings since they are animated it's works so much better for me :D, Shinkai can be regarded right now as the greatest animation director that is currently working). Another critically acclaimed 21st century film is Mulholland Dr., that one is much more my alley so I would put it on my top 25.

linespalsy
03-20-14, 11:12 PM
16. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button

:up: I didn't know you were such a fan of that. I had it pretty high on my list.

mark f
03-20-14, 11:21 PM
It was his #1 of the year. :)

linespalsy
03-20-14, 11:30 PM
Ha! I forgot, knew it was in the top two or three (where it would still be today.)

Holden Pike
03-21-14, 02:25 PM
Yup. I think it's marvelous, ingenious, exceptionally well made, and emotionally effective.

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=13348&stc=1&d=1395422687

Yoda
03-21-14, 02:51 PM
I would've never guessed in a million years that you would love that movie. I would've guessed just the opposite. Interesting.

Holden Pike
03-21-14, 03:08 PM
Not sure why you would think that, but rock on. :)

Hitchcockian
03-29-14, 11:19 PM
I didn't take part in this one, so I'm gonna just post my 25 anyway.

1) Mulholland Drive
2) WALL-E
3) There Will Be Blood
4) Spirited Away
5) Zodiac
6) No Country For Old Men
7) City Of God
8) Inglorious Basterds
9) The Departed
10) Mystic River
11) Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
12) Pan's Labyrinth
13) Tree of Life
14) Dead Man's Shoes
15) Downfall
16) Eternal Sunshine of The Spotless Mind
17) Traffic
18) A.I Artificial Intelligence
19) Holy Motors
20) The Social Network
21) The Pianist
22) Memento
23) A Separation
24) Children of Men
25) Slumdog Millionaire

wintertriangles
03-30-14, 12:24 AM
Nice, although Holy Motors would be part of the 2010s list

Hitchcockian
03-30-14, 12:36 AM
Nice, although Holy Motors would be part of the 2010s list
This is a Millenium list, suggesting that it includes any film made since the year 2000, so I'd say Holy Motors was available to be chosen when this countdown was done. I left Gravity out (which I would have chosen) because that hadn't been released before this countdown was done.

mark f
03-30-14, 01:04 AM
Here, but whatever. :)
The films you can put into your Top 25 must be those that were released starting from 01-01-2000 up until and including 12-31-2011. The release dates that we'll take are the USA ones. So, if a film was released in your home country in, say, February 2000, but it was already released in the USA in December 1999, then you can't nominate it. This 'rule' is installed merely so that everyone is clear on which films they can and cannot put in their Top 25.

Tyler1
03-30-14, 04:46 AM
Blame me for contributing 22 points to The Fellowship of the Ring.

honeykid
04-01-14, 09:31 AM
^Finger of shame^