The MoFo Millenium Top 100 Countdown

[TylerDurden99]

I like both Traffic and King Kong a lot, probably the best pair so far.

[Sexy Celebrity]

100. The Bourne Identity
99. Iron Man
98. Hedwig and the Angry Inch
97. Black Dynamite
96. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
95. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
94. Brotherhood of the Wolf
93. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
92. Rise of the Planet of the Apes
91. American Splendor
90. Spider-Man 2
89. The Darjeeling Limited
88. The Artist
87. Good Night, and Good Luck
86. Quills
85. The Help
84. Lars and the Real Girl
83. Monsters, Inc.
82. Once
81. The Wrestler
80. Requiem for a Dream
79. Synecdoche, New York
78. Traffic
77. King Kong

[wintertriangles]

Same here it's been awhile since I've seen King Kong. And, I hate to say it but hate Traffic. Crash better make it now.I don't get how you can hate Traffic but like the stereotype-sympathy grabs of Crash

[JayDee]

Never seen Traffic. And not entirely sure about King Kong. I've only seen it the once and that was when it was at the cinema which is now like 7 years ago, so don't remember a great deal of it. Except the ice skating scene. Will definitely need to give it another watch sometime.

[Harry Lime]

I don't get how you can hate Traffic but like the stereotype-sympathy grabs of Crash
Word.

[Miss Vicky]

I've not seen Traffic as there is absolutely nothing about it that interests me, but I have seen King Kong.

It's got decent special effects, but I don't care at all for the cast and the movie was excrutiatingly long.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I have only seen some of King Kong and nothing of the other one. No opinions.

Well, except this: I wish the movies had been something else. Something I've seen and liked.

[stevo3001]

It's got decent special effects, but I don't care at all for the cast and the movie was excrutiatingly long.

In my edit of the movie, I'd cut the entire first hour. Also I'd have Kong win because a) he was awesome and b) nobody would see it coming.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Haven't seen Traffic and didn't think King Kong was loved enough to make the list.

[Thursday Next]

I didn't like Traffic at all. I'm not a fan of Soderbergh, who is also responsible for The Good German and the execrable Full Frontal. I found Traffic tedious and unconvincing and the three colours idea was gimmicky. Del Toro was good, but that was about it.

King Kong I enjoyed a lot in the cinema but parts of it didn't quite stand up to repeat viewings. I still like it, but not as much as when I first saw it.

[honeykid]

Never cared for Traffic and still can't understand what's so great about it. I've never been interested in seeing King Kong at all.

[Yoda]

Traffic is more impressive than good.

[rauldc14]

I think Crash is the superior film with a better message and storyline. Although I know I'm probably alone on that thought as well. I'm starting to feel like Honeykid, hating every film everyone likes :cool:

[Sleezy]

I really like Crash too. Had it high on my list. I do think it panders some, but there are a few really poignant moments that elevate the film and I'm a sucker for cleverly entwined narratives. Again, not perfect and a little preachy at times, but I do think it ultimately arrives at a very soulful, human place.

I like Traffic okay, but I don't think it's in the Soderbergh elite. I had his 2002 Solaris remake in my top 25, though. Very underrated film, in my opinion.

[rauldc14]

I really like Crash too. Had it high on my list. I do think it panders some, but there are a few really poignant moments that elevate the film and I'm a sucker for cleverly entwined narratives. Again, not perfect and a little preachy at times, but I do think it ultimately arrives at a very soulful, human place.

I like Traffic okay, but I don't think it's in the Soderbergh elite. I had his 2002 Solaris remake in my top 25, though. Very underrated film, in my opinion.


I have a feeling we should see Crash somewhere on here then. Pretty sure it was near my top 10, if not in it.

[rauldc14]

King Kong is a respectable film that toys with being in my top 100. I haven't seen it in quite some time though.

[Daniel M]

Haven't seen Traffic although I have no complaints about King Kong being up there, a good film.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Hmm. I thought there would be new movies listed today.

[rauldc14]

I didn't :p

[Skepsis93]

I wont hesitate to get out the angry mob picture again Brod... :D

[donniedarko]

Brodinski was even online and viewing This thread not to long ago, I think he needs to face there wrath Skepsis

How about two tommorow an two more on Sunday

[rauldc14]

it's obvious that there will be days that we won't see 2 movies on the day we expect to see them (every other day). So let's just hold our horses a little.:p

[Brodinski]

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# 76
Brokeback Mountain
(2005, Lee)

45 points

[Brodinski]

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# 75
Brick
(2005, Johnson)

45 points

[JayDee]

Still never seen Brokeback Mountain but I'm a big fan of Brick. Great film. :yup:

[Miss Vicky]

Although I liked Brokeback Mountain and have it in my DVD collection, I think it's pretty well overrated. The movie is far more culturally significant than it is actually good. The performances were decent, the story stayed true to its source material (but that's because the original author also wrote the screenplay) and the cinematography was beautiful, but I really didn't see anything special here. Still I would've rather seen this one take Best Picture than that steaming pile of you-know-what, Crash.

I haven't seen Brick. I've been meaning to, but for whatever reason have never gotten to it.

[HitchFan97]

Glad to see Brick on here, it's the second film so far that was on my list.

Surprised Brokeback isn't higher.

[Pyro Tramp]

Brick is a pleasant surprise. Think if i'd watched it more recently would have included it.

[Skepsis93]

First movie I've seen that I don't really care for. I've only seen it once but I found Brick pretty dull. Inventive but dull.

[honeykid]

Brick is one of those films that I got a copy of because it sounded interesting. Then it built up a following and reputation. After that came the (admitedly slight) backlash. Seven years later and my copy still sits unwatched on my shelf. :D

[mark f]

Brokeback Brick, what an alliterative pair. I discussed Brick at length in the Movie Club discussion of it. I give it a 2.5 but I go on and on about it, so if you want to know why, check that out. I haven't written so much about Brokeback but I think it's better. The main problem I have with it is that it's a bit slow. The music and cinematography are good and if you're one of those obstinate guys who thinks that Heath Ledger can't act, check this to disprove that (and forget making jokes about his voice). Oh yeah, both women go topless for all the other guys who are afraid to watch the movie. 26 movies in and I voted for one.

[donniedarko]

Haven't seen either yet, but I'll be watching Brick tonight, I'll post my thoughts in here

Edit: in the movie club disscusion :)

[wintertriangles]

Haven't seen either yet, but I'll be watching Brick tonight, I'll post my thoughts in hereOr in the movie club discussion ;)

[Daniel M]

Haven't seen either although I would like to see both. Brokeback because I loved "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" and Brick, well because it's just one of those films that has always looked interesting to me, I'm a fan of JGL and want to see some films from Johnson.

[Thursday Next]

the cinematography was beautiful, but I really didn't see anything special here.

I felt the same about Brokeback Mountain the first time I saw it. But something about it stayed with me and I watched it again (and again and again... it's on Film 4 a lot, plus it's one of the few films that Mr. Next and I both really like). I think I like it more each time, and now it's one of my favourites (in my top 5 for this poll).

The cinematography is indeed beautiful, the acting is very good, the music is good, the story is incredibly moving without being manipulative. Ang Lee is one of the best directors when it comes to gorgeous scenery and stories of thwarted love. Certainly it's a quiet film, but a powerful one.

I haven't seen Brick. I've been meaning to, but for whatever reason have never gotten to it.

Same here.

[Brodinski]

1/4th of the way.

Here's the list so far:

100. The Bourne Identity
99. Iron Man
98. Hedwig and the Angry Inch
97. Black Dynamite
96. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
95. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
94. Brotherhood of the Wolf
93. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
92. Rise of the Planet of the Apes
91. American Splendor
90. Spider-Man 2
89. The Darjeeling Limited
88. The Artist
87. Good Night, and Good Luck
86. Quills
85. The Help
84. Lars and the Real Girl
83. Monsters, Inc.
82. Once
81. The Wrestler
80. Requiem for a Dream
79. Synecdoche, New York
78. Traffic
77. King Kong
76. Brokeback Mountain
75. Brick

[Yoda]

Oddly enough, I, too, had a copy of borrowed copy Brick for a couple of years before I watched it, just laying around like a...well, you know. When I watched it I felt dumb for waiting that long. It's pretty great.

For those of you who're thinking of watching it now, I would both encourage it, and point you to this this Movie Club discussion (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=26448) we had about it in August of 2011.

[Thursday Next]

So far:

I've seen 18
I liked 10 of those, 6 were just ok and 2 I really didn't like
3 were from my list (Hedwig and the Angry Inch, Quills, Brokeback Mountain)

[Sexy Celebrity]

Well, Brokeback was on my list, and high, but still it's at #76. I'm disappointed that it's not higher, but glad to see it.

[gandalf26]

Still haven't got round to seeing Brokeback, never heard of Brick.

[Harry Lime]

Three films have made it so far from my list. Thinking maybe ten more have a good shot.

[Miss Vicky]

I've seen 12 of the movies so far.
Of those, I've liked 6.
Of those, I voted for 2 (Brotherhood of the Wolf made my list at #5, Quills made my list at #1).

[Yoda]

I've seen 21 of the 25, but only voted for two so far. I've enjoyed just about all of them, I'd say.

[Miss Vicky]

Synechdoche, New York just arrived in the mail. The number of those I've seen is about to go to 13.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Synechdoche, New York just arrived in the mail. The number of those I've seen is about to go to 13.

Ooh, how nice.

I have only seen 10 of the movies. Some I watched some of, but not all the way through. I voted for 4 of them. Two of them (Hedwig, Brokeback) were my #2 and #3... although they really shouldn't have been! Obviously I helped put those films in those spots.

[Skepsis93]

I've seen 16, and they'd all be 3.5 or above with one exception. I have a horrendous imbalance in the ratio of newer to older movies I've seen. Trying to rectify that.

[TylerDurden99]

So far, I've watched 10 and only voted for 1. But every movie I have seen on the list is solid (with Monster's Inc and Brick being the best so far).

[donniedarko]

Well I Watched Brick and my full review is here: Brick Movie Club discussion (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=26448)

I gave it 3.5 ++ so I did quote enjoy this phsycological film. I'm glad it made it on and now I have even more motivation to watch Looper

[rauldc14]

Only 1 that I voted for thus far. Starting to think that maybe only 10ish will end up showing up.

[donniedarko]

Ive only seen 7 of the first 25
All but one I've given over 3.5
Only one from my list.

And I'm sorry to break it to you Hitch but I doubt Inland Empire will make it, maybe of you put at number 2 it'd make it around this time but not anymore, Mulholland drive will probably get 1st or 2nd though.

I looked through my list that since I sent it in, I don't think there would be any new movies added from what I've watched since. Broken Embraces would've been close but not quite in.

Do you guys think Tree of Life will make it? I didn't have it on mine but I'm sure there are quite a few people that did.

Also got my fingers crossed for Midnight in Paris, that would've been my number 26

[TheUsualSuspect]

Seen 19, voted for 1.

[HitchFan97]

Ive only seen 7 of the first 25
All but one I've given over 3.5
Only one from my list.

And I'm sorry to break it to you Hitch but I doubt Inland Empire will make it, maybe of you put at number 2 it'd make it around this time but not anymore, Mulholland drive will probably get 1st or 2nd though.

I looked through my list that since I sent it in, I don't think there would be any new movies added from what I've watched since. Broken Embraces would've been close but not quite in.

Do you guys think Tree of Life will make it? I didn't have it on mine but I'm sure there are quite a few people that did.

Also got my fingers crossed for Midnight in Paris, that would've been my number 26

I'm kicking myself already for Inland Empire. As for The Tree of Life, I'm not entirely sure. For all of its critical acclaim, I don't think there are too many people on this site who think it's great. I sure didn't vote for it.

[JayDee]

Of the 25 so far listed I've seen 16. Well 16 and a half counting the 45 minutes of American Splendor before I abandoned it. :D Of those I've seen would say everyone is at least a good film

I had actually been doing really well but only seen 2 of the last 7 now.

[Brodinski]

Here's how I'd rate these bad boys:

100. The Bourne Identity 3.5
99. Iron Man 3
98. Hedwig and the Angry Inch
97. Black Dynamite 3.5
96. O Brother, Where Art Thou? 4
95. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World 3.5
94. Brotherhood of the Wolf
93. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo 3.5+
92. Rise of the Planet of the Apes 3.5
91. American Splendor 4
90. Spider-Man 2 3+
89. The Darjeeling Limited
88. The Artist 4+
87. Good Night, and Good Luck 3.5+
86. Quills
85. The Help
84. Lars and the Real Girl 3.5+
83. Monsters, Inc. 3.5
82. Once
81. The Wrestler 3+
80. Requiem for a Dream 3.5
79. Synecdoche, New York
78. Traffic 4.5+
77. King Kong 4+
76. Brokeback Mountain 3.5
75. Brick 3.5+

[Skepsis93]

Two can play at that game...

100. The Bourne Identity
99. Iron Man 3.5-
98. Hedwig and the Angry Inch
97. Black Dynamite 4.5
96. O Brother, Where Art Thou? 4.5-
95. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World 4
94. Brotherhood of the Wolf
93. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo 4.5
92. Rise of the Planet of the Apes 3.5-
91. American Splendor
90. Spider-Man 2 3.5-
89. The Darjeeling Limited
88. The Artist 4.5
87. Good Night, and Good Luck 3.5
86. Quills
85. The Help 4+
84. Lars and the Real Girl 4.5
83. Monsters, Inc. 4.5
82. Once
81. The Wrestler
80. Requiem for a Dream 4.5
79. Synecdoche, New York 4
78. Traffic
77. King Kong 4-
76. Brokeback Mountain
75. Brick 2.5

[Brodinski]

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# 74
Pirates of the Carribean:
The Curse of the Black Pearl
(2003, Verbinski)

45 points

[Brodinski]

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# 73
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...
and Spring
(2003, Kim)

46 points

[Skepsis93]

Curse of the Black Pearl is by far the best of the Pirates series, doubt we'll see any more of them with that one this high up.

The latter has been on my radar for a while, still need to catch it though.

[wintertriangles]

Definitely happy about Kim Ki-duk, never thought he would show up. I'm proud of you guys

[honeykid]

Black Pearl's the only one of the series that I've seen. I didn't see the point in the rest of them.

[Brodinski]

Black Pearl's the only one of the series that I've seen. I didn't see the point in the rest of them.

Much like everyone (except one special person) didn't see the point in Charlie's Angels' Full Throttle. Or Charlie's Angels for that matter.

[Nausicaä]

Very surprised a Kim Ki Duk film has appeared. :)

[Daniel M]

Not seen the film from Kim, seen POTC but not a big fan of the series really, the first I'd probably say is decent and give a rating of 3.

[TylerDurden99]

The Curse Of The Black Pearl I didn't vote for, but I'm happy to see it on this list.

[donniedarko]

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# 74
Pirates of the Carribean:
The Curse of the Black Pearl
(2003, Verbinski)

45 points

Oh god what a shame that is. I would rank this amongst the ten worse of the decade. Never saw the other one but it looks intriguing.

I gave Pirates of the Caribbean 1, really edging .5. Depp was annoying as always, it was boring as all hell, and never felt any single emotion, while watching. It's an utter piece of crap, I've some "unpopular" movies on my list, but who ever included this (and there were obviously several) bring shame upon all the other movies that you could've put on. All the truly Wondeful movies out there, and you go plop this useless piece of crap waste of time on the list. It's not just a piece of crap, it's a ridicolous one, I take the American Pie movies more seriously (even the ones that didn't make theathers). It's a useless movie, it's not a Millenium film, it should go in the corner and hang out with that useless piece of ***** series Transformers. They suck equally, it'd be a perfect match. Maybe after Danny Boyle comes out with Slumdog Billionare it can go join them. Hell put all of Johnny Depps later films in there.

[Brodinski]

I didn't realise you liked it that much, donnie.

[HitchFan97]

Oh god what a shame that is. I would rank this amongst the ten worse of the decade. Never saw the other one but it looks intriguing.

I gave Pirates of the Caribbean 1, really edging .5. Depp was annoying as always, it was boring as all hell, and never felt any single emotion, while watching. It's an utter piece of crap, I've some "unpopular" movies on my list, but who ever included this (and there were obviously several) bring shame upon all the other movies that you could've put on. All the truly Wondeful movies out there, and you go plop this useless piece of crap waste of time on the list. It's not just a piece of crap, it's a ridicolous one, I take the American Pie movies more seriously (even the ones that didn't make theathers). It's a useless movie, it's not a Millenium film, it should go in the corner and hang out with that useless piece of ***** series Transformers. They suck equally, it'd be a perfect match. Maybe after Danny Boyle comes out with Slumdog Billionare it can go join them. Hell put all of Johnny Depps later films in there.

Ouch. I was never a fan of the series, but I think you may hate that film even more than I hate Transformers 2.

[Miss Vicky]

who ever included this (and there were obviously several) bring shame upon all the other movies that you could've put on.

Bite me.

You're welcome to your opinion of the movie itself, but Pirates deserves its place on this list every bit as much as any other here. Why? Because people love it and enough Mofos loved it that it not only made the list but made it at #74. You may not have felt any emotion, but many of us did. Namely: excitement and joy. Is it a serious movie? No. Is it a refreshing mix of adventure and comedy? For many of us, absolutely.

I voted for it at #18.

As for the other movie, I don't think I've heard of it before now.

[gandalf26]

Oh god what a shame that is. I would rank this amongst the ten worse of the decade. Never saw the other one but it looks intriguing.

I gave Pirates of the Caribbean 1, really edging .5. Depp was annoying as always, it was boring as all hell, and never felt any single emotion, while watching. It's an utter piece of crap, I've some "unpopular" movies on my list, but who ever included this (and there were obviously several) bring shame upon all the other movies that you could've put on. All the truly Wondeful movies out there, and you go plop this useless piece of crap waste of time on the list. It's not just a piece of crap, it's a ridicolous one, I take the American Pie movies more seriously (even the ones that didn't make theathers). It's a useless movie, it's not a Millenium film, it should go in the corner and hang out with that useless piece of ***** series Transformers. They suck equally, it'd be a perfect match. Maybe after Danny Boyle comes out with Slumdog Billionare it can go join them. Hell put all of Johnny Depps later films in there.

Amen!

I would have been really surprised had Pirates made a top 500, never mind #74.

First legitimately terrible film on the list.

[Yoda]

If you guys were talking about the fourth, I'd be completely with you. But the first is a ton of fun. Glad it's on here.

[Skepsis93]

If you guys were talking about the fourth, I'd be completely with you. But the first is a ton of fun. Glad it's on here.

I'll second that. The series begins declining pretty quickly but Black Pearl is a really enjoyable movie.

[JayDee]

To those who have such a problem with the first Pirates film - cheer the f**k up! :D Yes the series descended to some pretty low depths as it has gone along but the first film is a fantastic piece of entertainment, amongst the best adventure films of the last 20 years. My only surprise is that it didn't place higher. And like Miss Vicky I'm proud to say it was on my list.

Oh yeah and while I didn't vote for it I also love Spring, Summer... and am delighted to see it here. Quite possibly the most visually beautiful film I have ever seen.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yuck and WTF.

[Skepsis93]

This is a safe place, donnie. Tell us where Gore Verbinski touched you.

[Tyler1]

Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter... And Spring at #15 on my list.
http://content6.flixster.com/movie/26/79/267996_det.jpg

As much as the title implies, this film is about the cyclical nature of life. People come, people go; people are born, and people die. It's about the renewal of energy that gives this a piece of gem a slice of what Buddhism teaches. The passing down of wisdom from the old monk to the young. The isolation of the temple, against the backdrop of the four seasons, leaves the viewer in a state of 'zen-like' meditation. Do unto others as what others would want unto them. A tragic event. And in the end, a sense of hope and tranquility. These tiny events shape our lives, and this film beseeches us to examine our busy lives and find that inner peace and happiness. For life sure is transient.

*Recommend watching this while listening to Vivaldi's Four Seasons.

[TheUsualSuspect]

The first pirates is a lot of fun, the others were dreadful.

[Godoggo]

Brokeback is a really good movie that I respected more than I enjoyed. Pirates is fun. I do not like Brick and I haven't seen the other movie.

So far there are 4 from my list, 5 I haven't seen, 9 I really like, 4 that I like, 4 I absolutely do not like and 1 I need to watch again

[Thursday Next]

I really don't think Pirates of the Caribbean "bring shame upon all the other movies that you could've put on". It's a decent, fun film with a main character who has become fairly iconic fairly quickly. It's a little overlong and silly, perhaps, but it's not a legitimately bad film. It's not really a grown up film and shouldn't be judged as one. It does what it does, very well. I think it deserves a place on the list just as much as Spiderman or Iron Man. The sequels are heinous, but as I seriously doubt they'll be showing up here, they shouldn't really count against the original.

[Thursday Next]

Also, I watched Requiem For A Dream last night and it was really excellent. I think if I did my list again now, it might well be on it. So glad I finally got around to it.

[Deadite]

Ahem. Pirates was a great movie.

[rauldc14]

Pirates > Requiem

[donniedarko]

Dog sh*t> pirates

[rauldc14]

and dog sh*t>requiem

[linespalsy]

I guess I'm in the minority who actually liked the 2nd Pirates film best, and the 4th just as much as the others. I liked the whole series.

[rauldc14]

in honor of brods missing a day i hereby declare we get 2 more films today!..........well its worth a shot

[gandalf26]

I guess I'm in the minority who actually liked the 2nd Pirates film best, and the 4th just as much as the others. I liked the whole series.

Probably not something one should freely admit.

[donniedarko]

in honor of brods missing a day i hereby declare we get 2 more films today!..........well its worth a shot

I second the motion!

[Brodinski]

http://personal-authenticity-project.com/wp-content/customimages/donkey-carrot.jpg

[rauldc14]

I had that at #24

[Brodinski]

I'll get the next two up tomorrow, guys.

[donniedarko]

http://www.graphics99.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/single-alone-cherry.jpg
Does this mean we get movies tommorow and Friday? What if I say please? What if I put a cherry on top?

[Brodinski]

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# 72
Gangs of New York
(2002, Scorsese)

46 points

[Brodinski]

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# 71
Sunshine
(2007, Boyle)

46 points

[Yoda]

Hey, another of mine (Sunshine). I'll take it. :up:

[Sleezy]

Another of mine, too (Gangs of New York), though I do like Sunshine quite a bit. The end gets pretty silly, but the great production value and clever story (Just how moral can/should you be when the human race depends on you to jumpstart the freakin' sun?) trumps any missteps for me.

[donniedarko]

Gangs of NY sucks and since it's a Danny Boyle film I'll be avoiding sunshine

[The Rodent]

Now for my two pence worth after another ten entries.

80. Requiem For A Dream
79. Synecdoche, New York
78. Traffic
77. King Kong
76. Brokeback Mountain
75. Brick
74. POTC: The Curse Of The Black Pearl
73. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter And Spring
72. Gangs Of New York
71. Sunshine

Haven't seen Spring Summer, Brick or Synedoch... of the rest though, I'm surprised Sunshine isn't higher.
Nice to see Pirates make the cut. That's only the second movie from my list that's made the cut from what I can remember of my list :D


Can't really see why Kong made the list tbh, it's not a bad film but it's nothing I'd have thought would make a top 100.

Gangs Of New York is another... all the terrible accents, (especially Leonard DiCalipso's awful non-descript rambling accent) did that movie no good at all, seriously knocked my enjoyment completely. Day-Lewis rocks though, even with the dodgy accent.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Once I saw Sunshine I knew Yoda would be grinning from ear to ear.

I really like both entries, despite both have obvious weak points. Gangs being Cameron Diaz and Sunshine being the slasheresque third act.

[rauldc14]

only saw 3 of past 10 films. Starting to wonder if films I had thought would make it that I nominated actually will. If I had to do it all over again, I probably wouldn't have voted for films that had little to no chance of making this.

[JayDee]

Well there's the definite worst film of the list so far as far as I'm concerned - Gangs of New York. In my eyes there should be more uproar over that than Pirates.

Sunshine however is a pretty good film. Just watched it for the first time a couple of weeks back. Was on the road to being great before fading at the end. 3.5

[Sexy Celebrity]

What is so great about Sunshine? What about it makes everyone go Lady Gaga over it?

[Yoda]

The being-a-really-good-movie part. ;)

Seriously, though, I think it's a really sharp entry into a genre--apocalyptic thrillers--that's usually insanely dull. Here's my review from 2007 (http://www.movieforums.com/reviews/sunshine.html) where I elaborate a bit on why I like it.

[Sleezy]

Wow. I'm surprised so many here don't like Gangs of New York. It's a pretty outlandish film, admittedly, but so is the source material written by Herbert Asbury. In fact, the book (written as a history book, mind you) is far and away weirder than the movie.

I just think it's like one of those great old-fashioned "director's films." The immense set, the script, the production value. It all has great character and I think is really meant to be something of a sword-and-sandal revenge epic set in the middle of Civil War-era New York.

Day-Lewis rocks though, even with the dodgy accent.

I'm with you on DiCaprio's bogus accent, but Day-Lewis is pretty dead on for a thick-voiced New Yorker. It's a little more sensational, maybe, because he's an actor and sensationalism is that movie's bread and butter. It at least feels like a complete accent, with various ticks and inflections—as if he studied it—rather than just a superficial changing of his accent.

[Godoggo]

I need to watch Sunshine again. I remember thinking it was a really good movie, but I've forgotten most of it.

I like Gangs of New York. I would almost have to for the sake of my sanity. My boyfriend loves it therefore I've had to sit through it multiple times.

Am I the only one who doesn't really care about bad accents all that much? If otherwise it's a decent movie, I'm not going to get all bothered by the way they speak. I loved Daniel Day Lewis's accent in GONY. DiCaprio's didn't bother me at all (but, yes, it's not very good) he just bores me in general.

[donniedarko]

77. King Kong-3 stars
75. Brick-3.5 stars
74. POTC: The Curse Of The Black pearl- 1 star
72. Gangs Of New York- 2 stars

None from my list in this set, an still only one from my list total

[Thursday Next]

Didn't vote for it but I like Gangs of New York a lot. It's not perfect, but Daniel Day Lewis makes up for most of the flaws.

Sunshine just scraped my list at 25 and I was kind of surprised to see it here, I didn't realise it was so popular.

donniedarko - perhaps you could elaborate on why you hate Danny Boyle films so much and which ones you have seen to come to this conclusion. (Also, I wouldn't worry, I'd bet money on Inception, The Pianist and Donnie Darko all making the list.)

[gandalf26]

Glad to see Sunshine made the list. Would have made my top 35 for sure. Probably one of the films that I have watched most often in the past 5 years. Don't understand why people don't like it.

Gangs of New York was ok but something about it just doesn't work. A very rare misshit for Scorsese.

[Brodinski]

Cameron Diaz was a miscast, but other than her, I think everything works just fine.

[rauldc14]

A bit late with my response but just watched Good Night, and Good Luck and aside from the acting (which was brilliant) I really didn't get into it at all. Not so sure about its inclusion here.

[Skepsis93]

I've enjoyed DDL in everything and Gangs of New York is no exception. His blisteringly good performance aside, I don't love the movie but it's not a bad one by any stretch.

[TylerDurden99]

Love both of those last entries, despite not voting for either of them.

[Miss Vicky]

I haven't seen Sunshine, but something tells me I might not care for it much.

I saw Gangs of New York during its theatrical run and I don't remember a lot about it. The one thing I do remember, however, is that I didn't like it.

On a side note, I've watched most of Synecdoche, New York and I can definitely see where someone might say it's Kaufman trying too hard. It's not a bad movie by any stretch. It definitely has all of the sadness and weirdness of the other Kaufman films I've seen, but I think it's a little too much of all that. I think it would have benefited from some humor.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Where was the humor in the other Kaufman movies? If you ask me, the guy isn't a humorist, unless you like that sort of bland, tapioca pudding sense of humor kind of thing. Okay, I laughed when Meryl Streep said Chris Cooper came on her in Adaptation, but that was about it.

In fact, I think Synecdoche, New York might even be the funniest movie he's done. Remember the therapist lady/bestselling author suddenly appearing beside Phillip Seymour Hoffman on the plane? Or the silliness of Catherine Keener's phone messages when he's cleaning her apartment -- with all that coughing she does at one point when she's sick? It had some amusing parts.

[Miss Vicky]

Where was the humor in the other Kaufman movies? If you ask me, the guy isn't a humorist, unless you like that sort of bland, tapioca pudding sense of humor kind of thing. Okay, I laughed when Meryl Streep said Chris Cooper came on her in Adaptation, but that was about it.

Have you not seen Eternal Sunshine and Being John Malkovich? They're certainly not straight up rolling on the floor comedies, but they've got some pretty funny scenes in them. Being John Malkovich in particular has some pretty absurd humor, like when John Malkovich goes down his own portal. That scene's pretty damn funny.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Have you not seen Eternal Sunshine and Being John Malkovich? They're certainly not straight up rolling on the floor comedies, but they've got some pretty funny scenes in them. Being John Malkovich in particular has some pretty absurd humor, like when John Malkovich goes down his own portal. That scene's pretty damn funny.

I saw them both only once. Really liked Being John Malkovich but found Eternal Sunshine very disappointing. I had read the script for Eternal Sunshine online before the movie was even released -- liked it then. I guess the actual movie didn't live up to my expectations.

I've also seen Human Nature. I dunno. They're quirky, weird movies and I love that, but I don't particularly think of them as major comedies. Like I said in an earlier post about Synecdoche -- these are high IQ stoner films.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Being John Malkovich is hilarious.

[mark f]

That's why it's Kaufman's best, although Spike Jonze directed it.

[TheUsualSuspect]

......2nd best.

[mark f]

I'm not gonna rag on Eternal Sunshine now...

[Daniel M]

Haven't seen either, really need to see "Gangs of New York" because I've pretty much seen all of Scorsese's well acclaimed films: "Taxi Driver", "Raging Bull", "Goodfellas" and "The Departed" so I want to why people hate it so much and if it's actually bad :D

[The Rodent]

Haven't seen either, really need to see "Gangs of New York" because I've pretty much seen all of Scorsese's well acclaimed films: "Taxi Driver", "Raging Bull", "Goodfellas" and "The Departed" so I want to why people hate it so much and if it's actually bad


Gangs isn't a bad movie... just has a bad choice of actors. Diaz and DiCaprio are by far the worst choices for the roles they're in, they have 0 on-screen chemistry and their accents and overall acting really is abysmal...

... which usually wouldn't damage a movie too badly if the movie is as good as Gangs is, but, as it happens, they completely destroy the film's credibility.

Daniel Day Lewis' accent is a bit dodgy too but his role is awesome and his acting makes up for the lack of voice talent.

[Miss Vicky]

I've also seen Human Nature. I dunno. They're quirky, weird movies and I love that, but I don't particularly think of them as major comedies. Like I said in an earlier post about Synecdoche -- these are high IQ stoner films.

Did you even read what I said? I never called either one of them a major comedy. I said they're funny. There is a difference.

I haven't found anything funny about anything I've seen thusfar in Synecdoche. It's a whole lot of weirdness and a whole lot of sadness. I've still yet to actually finish it, but I doubt anything's going to change in the little bit I've left to watch.

[Brodinski]

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# 70
Man on Fire
(2004, T. Scott)

47 points

[Brodinski]

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# 69
Gladiator
(2000, R. Scott)

47 points

[Tyler1]

Hmmm.... 2 Scott movies in a row.

Gladiator at #13 on my list.

[donniedarko]

Nada for two, Miss Vicky should be pleased though, my dad actually owns Man on Fire, maybe I should check it out. I wonder if Black Hawk Down will make it

[Brodinski]

Even though Gladiator gets a lot of ***** from some on here, I'm surprised it's not higher. I didn't include it in my top 25, but it would probably make my top 50. It's a simple, straight-forward story, but brought with much flair, well-choreographed and directed action scenes, thorough acting and a nice soundtrack.

The inclusion of Man on Fire on the other hand seems dodgy to me. I don't think it's a bad film; on the contrary. But part of the 100 best films of this millenium? Nah, not even if I'm being generous.

But Raul is probably acting like this right now:

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[The Rodent]

I was pleasantly surprised by Man On Fire... I'd still not count it as anything special though, it feels a touch unfinished.
Still, it beats Taken by miles.

Gladiator on the other hand is a gem of a movie. Seriously innacurate in almost every area but it's like a throwback to the gladiator movies of old... no accuracy but seriously entertaining stuff. The budget was well spent though, top action and top effects.
Crowe's squint hairline is always a highlight.
I'm quite surprised it's not higher as well.

[linespalsy]

Gangs and Gladiator are movies where the production design, cinematography and overall visual flow hold my interest while the long-winded plot bores me. I'm still not sure if I like them or if my double experience cancels itself out, but they're both worth at least a few tries. I find Gladiator to be much less of an action movie than other people describe it.

Sunshine I voted for. I think it's the most beautiful version of outer space I've seen and yes, I find the slasheriffic final act suspenseful and not at all disappointing.

I caught Man on Fire on television years ago without knowing anything about it and thought it was okay-to-good. Maybe I'll watch it again some day.

Brokeback Mountain is heart-breaking, beautiful and awesome but it didn't make my list.

I'll watch Brick again and see if I still like it as much or if it was just a gimmick. Actually no I won't, I hate watching movies with something already in mind to look out for in order to "test" myself, that will just ensure my boredom. I'll wait until I've forgotten nearly everything about it. I didn't vote for it but I know it's on my top 10 for whatever year it came out.

[wintertriangles]

Ugh why Man on Fire? I can understand Gladiator but christ

[TheUsualSuspect]

Man on Fire very surprising to see that one.

[JayDee]

Really surprise by Man on Fire. Not seen it myself yet but didn't realise enough people loved it to make the list, and fairly high up at that.

Gladiator I really need to watch again. I remember it being fantastic but not seen in years and years and I think my opinion has been kind of polluted by the amount of hate it seems to get on here. Will need to watch and refresh my opinion of it

[Godoggo]

There are some really good things about Gladiator and while not one of my personal favorites, I can see how it would end up on someone's list. I can't see anything special enough about Man on Fire. It just seems nothing more to me than a Saturday afternoon watch-it-and-forget-about-it movie.

[Miss Vicky]

I'm certainly pleased to see Gladiator make the cut, but I'm disappointed by its ranking. I will never understand the hatred some MoFos hold for this movie (except for honeykid, because he just has bad taste anyway). I had this at #2 on my list, but for a short period this was my absolute favorite movie. I saw it five times during its theatrical run and countless times after its DVD release. This was also the movie that introduced me to Joaquin Phoenix, though my intial impression was that he was phenomenally good, but seemed too creepy to ever be a leading man. Obviously that impression didn't last.

Man On Fire I haven't seen and don't really have much desire to see it.

[The Rodent]

Seeing some posts saying they haven't seen Man On Fire... think Taken but with brains. Not many brains, but more than Taken could ever wish for.

[wintertriangles]

Seeing some posts saying they haven't seen Man On Fire... think Taken but with brains. Not many brains, but more than Taken could ever wish for.That's not saying much though. I'd rather watch a something without clichéd editing and the most predictable storyline ever. At least Taken knew it was stupid, Man on Fire thinks it's great.

[Skepsis93]

Didn't vote for it, but I like Gladiator a lot. Man on Fire might be the first one the list that I have very little desire to see, but maybe it'll surprise me.

[honeykid]

I will never understand the hatred some MoFos hold for this movie (except for honeykid, because he just has bad taste anyway).
I don't hate it. I just think it's painfully average. I hate the acclaim it gets, but not the film.

[rauldc14]

The film with the hate is Man on Fire. But it don't matter to me. It's a beast of a movie in my book and I was quite surprised to see it on here to be honest. Probably the film that gets the most beef that I know of around here. Maybe you don't like the storyline, the editing (etc.) which I love, but if you have hate on the acting (and in particular Denzel) then I think somethings wrong with you.

[donniedarko]

I just recalled that I said after I sent in my list there were no new ones, well that's not true, I forgot about Oldboy which would've been in my top 10, of I saw it on time. I'm
Pretty sure it'll make it though.

[TylerDurden99]

That last pair was terrifying. Gladiator is hollow and overrated, and Tony Scott just couldn't keep his camera still when making Man On Fire. He had the potential to do much, much better.

[TheUsualSuspect]

well look at that, Gangs of New York is on TV...maybe it will help me go to sleep.

[Daniel M]

Not seen either, but I have Gladiator recorded, will definitely have to watch it soon and give you guys my thoughts.

[Skepsis93]

I just recalled that I said after I sent in my list there were no new ones, well that's not true, I forgot about Oldboy which would've been in my top 10, of I saw it on time. I'm
Pretty sure it'll make it though.

Top 10. 20, at least.

[Pyro Tramp]

Man on Fire is so far the most surprising entry, I like the film a lot but find it hard to imagine it raking in that many points, especially to top the superior Gladiator

[Thursday Next]

Who actually voted for Man of Fire, out of interest? Everybody seems to be surprised it's here but there must have been 3 or 4 people who voted for it at least.

I haven't seen it, but will it add it to my list along with all the other ones on here.

I like Gladiator a lot. It has its flaws, of course, and it didn't make my list, but I think it's an impressive attempt at making a modern version of a swords and sandals epic. Phoenix is very good in it.

[HitchFan97]

I think it's Rauldc14's favorite movie, so I'm sure it got plenty of points there.

[donniedarko]

Just finished Man on Fire, no way in hell that should be on this list. Very forced and a cheesy script to go with it. Denzel wa a bad ass yes, but that's not all it takes to make a good movie. Slow and lame

[Pyro Tramp]

Top 10. 20, at least.

I had it #1, I think so would be happy with top10

[rauldc14]

Hate on Man on Fire all you want. The bottom line is I'm assuming at least 3 others voted for it. In all honesty nearly thought about leaving it "off" my list that I sent in, because it's just plainly hated around here. But I'm pumped about its inclusion. I mean, come on it's better than Charlie's Angels surely :p

[donniedarko]

In all honesty nearly thought about leaving it "off" my list that I sent in, because it's just plainly hated around here.

Maybe I'm not one one to judge, because I have ago many movies on my list that have no chance once so ever, some of them I regard as my very favorites

[Brodinski]

Gladiator is hollow and overrated

But Under Siege isn't? Heck, that's not even rated by a lot of people.

[Sleezy]

Not a fan of Man on Fire, but I think it's one of those things where the style agrees with some people but not with others.

I liked Gladiator a whole lot when it first came out, but have mellowed on it in recent years. It's a pretty fun little revenge epic with some great action, so I admit: I pop it in from time to time. But I'm sort of puzzled by how it won a Best Picture Oscar, particularly with Joaquin Phoenix' excrutiating overracting. But I guess the Academy was feeling some sword-and-sandal nostalgia that year.

[rauldc14]

I almost forgot to talk about Gladiator due to the excitement of the inclusion of Man on Fire. Gladiator is a beast of a film as well. Crowe and Phoenix both excellent performances, there's great action and I think it will be Ben-Hur like in 40 years. Not that Ben-Hur is liked by all that many right now, but it's a memorable epic.

[Miss Vicky]

I liked Gladiator a whole lot when it first came out, but have mellowed on it in recent years. It's a pretty fun little revenge epic with some great action, so I admit: I pop it in from time to time. But I'm sort of puzzled by how it won a Best Picture Oscar, particularly with Joaquin Phoenix' excrutiating overracting. But I guess the Academy was feeling some sword-and-sandal nostalgia that year.


For the sake of peace, I'm going to pretend you didn't just say that.

[rauldc14]

Phoenix has put up lots of solid performances in my opinion. Gladiator and Signs being my 2 favorites.

[Sleezy]

For the sake of peace, I'm going to pretend you didn't just say that.

:laugh:

I know people really like him, and I guess he giave what the role asked of him (an unhinged despot that we, the viewers, need to hate). But it's pretty over-the-top and weird. Sure, he's intense. He looks like he's about to lose it and seems to have tears of rage in his eyes throughout the film. But I don't think being intense necessarily translates into a good performance.

But that's just me.

[Brodinski]

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# 68
Hero
(2002, Zhang)

47 points

[Brodinski]

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# 67
Road to Perdition
(2002, Mendes)

48 points

[wintertriangles]

The question is...is Hero too low?

Surprised to see Road to Perdition, not because of my opinion but no one talks about it. Like ever.

[rauldc14]

Haven't even heard of Hero. Guess I will have to check it out. We are definitely dwindling down and there is going to be a lot of shockers that will be left off of this list.

[Sleezy]

Interesting. Though I only saw it once, I remember liking Hero but thought it was unnecessarily long. Cool action, cool cinematography... but pretty tiring to watch.

I love Road to Perdition and had it only my list (#12). Phenomenal adaptation of the graphic novels, with stellar performances, great production value, and a killer score from Thomas Newman.

[Miss Vicky]

I'm not a fan of martial arts, so I don't think I've seen Hero (though it's possible that I've seen it and simply forgotten about it, since my best friend is a big Jet Li fan).

I saw Road to Perdition once while it was in the theaters and never watched it again. I don't remember a whole lot about it, but I do remember not being impressed. It has been a decade since then though, so maybe I'll give it a rewatch at some point.

[Daniel M]

Glad to see Road to Perdition on here, one of the most pleasing films on the list so far for me. I watched it recently and did a mini-review in the movie tab thread...

mirrorRoad to Perdition

Road to Perdition is a crime film but unlike the majority it has its own unique style and feel. The plot means that the film is at times predictable and lacks in some departments but that is made up by great performances from its actors such as Tom Hanks and absolutely superb cinematography (for which it won an Oscar).

On the point of its Oscar win, the film is beautifully illustrated, the sets, costumes, colours are wonderful. One scene in particular towards the end in the pouring rain stands out and wonderfully reflects the rest of the film, we see the dark world filled with shadows and little light, the rain covers the characters and drips from their hats. If you're a fan of Boardwalk Empire then I think you'll like this film where the attention to detail creates a fantastic look.

My Rating

4

Not seen Hero, although when I saw the post and the film poster it reminded by of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon which I hope to also see on the list :D

[Brodinski]

Surprised to see Road to Perdition, not because of my opinion but no one talks about it. Like ever.

It's pretty damn good. I think it's Mendes' best. It's kinda like Michael Mann and Heat. You say Michael Mann, people think of Heat. The Insider was an excellent film in its own right, but Heat is just the Michael Mann film, and the others kinda get lost in its shadow, much as is the case with American Beauty and Sam Mendes.

[donniedarko]

In full honesty I've never heard of either one of these two films

[Brodinski]

You need to brush up on your general millenium cinematic knowledge, Donnie. No need for school, just watch like 7 movies a day.

[Yoda]

winter makes a good point about Road to Perdition not being talked about. It's a fine movie; doesn't blow me away, but there's a lot to like there, even if it feels a little too paint-by-numbers for a drama of its kind at times. But there's just not that much to say about it. Well-acted, gorgeously shot, decent plot, but a little bit of a retread. It's one of the better films you'll see that won't inspire you to say anything. :D

[donniedarko]

You need to brush up on your general millenium cinematic knowledge, Donnie. No need for school, just watch like 7 movies a day.

If only I could, but hey I'm trying wacth the ones I haven't seen. Watched Brick and Man on Fire, and I also picked up Syndechone, New York.
I've actually seen a good amount of movies from this period, and since you're the only one on here who saw my list, you know a good chunk of them are either really main stream or ones no one talked about a week after they got into theathers (if they were even showing). Mofos tend to like the ones in the middle

[wintertriangles]

winter makes a good point about Road to Perdition not being talked about. It's a fine movie; doesn't blow me away, but there's a lot to like there, even if it feels a little too paint-by-numbers for a drama of its kind at times. But there's just not that much to say about it. Well-acted, gorgeously shot, decent plot, but a little bit of a retread. It's one of the better films you'll see that won't inspire you to say anything. :DI don't think I've seen it anymore, that's how much it eludes me

[Yoda]

You mean you've forgotten so much about it that it's as if you haven't seen it?

[TylerDurden99]

Haven't seen Hero, but Road To Perdition is a good movie, the acting and directing is top notch stuff.

[The Rodent]

Being completely honest about these last two entries... I found them both pretty boring.

There's a lot of artistry and direction going on but they were just too underwhelming in my opinion to make the grade of Great Movie.

I had to watch Hero about 7 times to get through the whole thing, I kept turning it off through boredom

[Godoggo]

Hero is excellent. Glad it popped up on the list; I haven't seen it in awhile and I'm reminded that I should watch it again.

Road to Perdition is a movie I like well enough. It's not a movie that inspires me to watch over and over again though.

[gandalf26]

Gladiator I think is in the right place, I was a little worried it would actually go higher. Didn't vote for it myself but it is probably a top 100 of the millenium movie.

Man on Fire, what the hell is that doing on the list??!!

Hero, great visual masterpiece but the film never really achieves the highes of the first 15 minutes, the amazing shot of Nameless(Jet Li) walking to the palace surrounded by thousands of extras (provided at no cost by the Chinese Army), and the awesome, fight between Jet Li and Donnie Yen in the chess house. Probably one of my top 3 fights ever put to film. Subsequent fights just never reach the same highs and I've never really felt the desire to watch the whole thing through again.

Road to Perdition, one of my votes, around number 12-13 on my list. Watched again recently, just love Gangster movies, good performances from Paul Newman, Daniel Craig, Jude Law and I just love Tom Hanks in what is a different role, unlike any other he has portrayed, kind of an anti hero.

(I'm actually on holiday but the Villa now has wi fi and someone brought a laptop,woop!)

[rauldc14]

Man on Fire, what the hell is that doing on the list??!!



Haters gonna hate. U mad bro?

[gandalf26]

Haters gonna hate. U mad bro?

nah not mad bro, just think MOF is a throwaway Saturday night movie at a very generous 3/5, not great but not bad either. It's also quite grim to be honest.

[donniedarko]

There's still no one other than Rauld who's admited it was on his list. I bet filmmaker mightve had it, I can't think of anyone else though

[JayDee]

The question is...is Hero too low?


I can answer that - yes! An emphatic yes! One of my all time favourites I had it at #6 on my list to Brodinski. I mentioned earlier in the thread how Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter...and Spring was perhaps the most visually beautiful film I've ever seen. Well I'd probably put that at #2 because Hero takes the top spot.

While I'm delighted to see it on the list I'm really disappointed it's came in quite low, not even top 50! :( And also disappointed to read how many people haven't seen, or even heard of it.


As for Road to Perdition I do remember liking it but been so long that I can't be totally sure

[honeykid]

My copy of RtP is on video. I think I got about 20 or 40 minutes in, but then I had to leave. The tape is still in the same place as it was 10 years ago. No interest in it at all.

Hero's a martial arts film and so is unseen by me, as all but a rare few are.

[Thursday Next]

Both of those last two are decent but not favourites of mine, both a little more style than substance. Road to Perdition is a film I don't think I've even thought about again since I saw it when it came out.

[TheUsualSuspect]

2 more films not on my list. Only seen Hero, decent enough.

[Daniel M]

Seeing as most of you haven't seen/heard of/can't remember Road to Perdition I decided to expand on my movie tab post and do a full review of it :)

http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=850693

[Harry Lime]

Seeing as most of you haven't seen/heard of/can't remember Road to Perdition I decided to expand on my movie tab post and do a full review of it
Road to Perdition? Is that a new movie?

[donniedarko]

I watched Synecdoche, New York yesterday, that movie just flew right over my head, I didn't get that at all.

http://arch.413chan.net/joke_over_head-(n1297144930266).jpg
Replace Joke with movie in that picture and that's how I felt.

Totally lost, I gave it a really,really,really bad rating (1) but I can't really criticize people who liked it since I know nothing about it still. I might consider rewatching it, in like two years

[Brodinski]

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# 66
Gone Baby Gone
(2007, Affleck)

49 points

[Brodinski]

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# 65
The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada
(2005, Jones)

50 points

[The Rodent]

Not seen Three Burials... but extremely surprised to see Gone Baby Gone on the list, let alone in 66th place.
Quite possibly the most overrated movie of the past 50 years.



EDIT: Here's a roundup from my own review of Gone Baby Gone:



Ben Affleck's mystery, based on Aaron Stockard's novel, sadly falls flat at the first hurdle. The major problem is that there is no mystery. I figured out the ending within the first 10 minutes.
The other major problem is the plotholes... they're massive, though no direct plot spoilers in my reviews ;)


Michelle Monaghan as Angie is also a standout role. Sadly though, she's kept off the screen too much, I couldn't help but want to see more of her. Her character isn't built on much either, you get the impression there's a backstory there that wasn't utilised.


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All in all, nowhere near as good as many reviews have said, but the brooding look and the twists and turns in the story are well put together, the acting and characters are also great.
Sadly though, the gaping plotholes and lack of actual mystery let it down.
83%

[donniedarko]

Gone Baby Gone is a Wondeful film, didn't make my list but I honestly expected it to get into the top 50. Affleck ha a bright future if he keeps directing how he is now.

Haven't seen the other one, looks like an odd one though

[Brodinski]

Very mixed feelings here. The first one makes me go:

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whereas the second one has me going all:

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Seriously, The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada is among the top 3 westerns of the millenium and there's a very unique vibe to it. Powerhouse film.

[donniedarko]

Early reaction is negative towards Gine baby Gone which is surprising to me, I think it's as good as Mystic River, it has an unforgettable score (I even bought a few of the songs from it on Itunes). It was sad and had a hell of a twist.

Edit: This is Raulds 4th favorite film so that's a good chunk of points right there, man all of Raylds picks are making it but can't catch a break when they do

[wintertriangles]

Very mixed feelings here. The first one makes me go:

http://www.vaq34.com/junk/wtf.gif

whereas the second one has me going all:

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Seriously, The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada is among the top 3 westerns of the millenium and there's a very unique vibe to it. Powerhouse film.You read my mind.

[Brodinski]

had a hell of a twist.

More like a hellish one, as you could see it coming several miles away.

[Sexy Celebrity]

More like a hellish one, as you could see it coming several miles away.

I did guess that ending to Gone Baby Gone myself before it actually arrived.

Morgan Freeman did it!

[Miss Vicky]

Haven't seen Gone Baby Gone.

I don't think I've ever even heard of the other movie.

[honeykid]

The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada is yet another film I have, but have yet to watch. Gone Baby Gone has never really appealed and comparrisons with Mystic River aren't getting me to see it any quicker.

[JayDee]

Not seen Gone Baby Gone though I did tape it when it was on TV a few weeks back.

Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada is a very good film with great performances from Jones and Barry Pepper. Pepper is an actor I've always liked and I think it's a shame he's never really become a well known guy. A hugely under-rated actor I feel

[Godoggo]

Haven't seen The Three Burials, but I am looking forward to watching it. I do like both Jones and Pepper a lot.

I thought Casey Affleck and Michelle Monaghan did a good job in Gone Baby Gone and that's about all I liked about the movie.

[TheUsualSuspect]

I bet Holden is cheering that The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada made the list. I'm glad to see Gone Baby Gone, despite it not being on my list. I really enjoyed it, as I have Ben Affleck's other two directing features.

[Thursday Next]

I haven't seen either of these, although it seems they are both on lovefilm instant so that can be quickly rectified. I have to say Gone Baby Gone doesn't appeal to me at all, but I'll give it a shot.

[Pyro Tramp]

Not seen Gone Baby Gone though I did tape it when it was on TV a few weeks back.

Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada is a very good film with great performances from Jones and Barry Pepper. Pepper is an actor I've always liked and I think it's a shame he's never really become a well known guy. A hugely under-rated actor I feel

That's what starring in Battlefield Earth does to a career. Lot atoning to do. But do concur, fantastic film and performances. Really enjoyed it at cinema.

Early reaction is negative towards Gine baby Gone which is surprising to me, I think it's as good as Mystic River, it has an unforgettable score (I even bought a few of the songs from it on Itunes). It was sad and had a hell of a twist.

Edit: This is Raulds 4th favorite film so that's a good chunk of points right there, man all of Raylds picks are making it but can't catch a break when they do

Not selling me on it. So it's rather average and predictable?

[Sleezy]

I currently have Gone Baby Gone waiting on my coffee table at home, waiting to be watched.

The Three Burials is definitely an interesting film, and I feel it has a heart, but it's sort of all over the place in terms of what's really going on in the story. Though I believe the end is supposed to be vague, I just felt confused. But it's been a few years since I saw it, so maybe it's just one of those films that needs a few viewings to really unfold in your mind.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I bet Holden is cheering that The Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada made the list. I'm glad to see Gone Baby Gone, despite it not being on my list. I really enjoyed it, as I have Ben Affleck's other two directing features.

Casey Affleck.

Oh, wait, oops. Nevermind. I thought Casey directed it. Really? Ben directed that?

Wow, he directs a lot of stuff. Didn't realize he directed The Town as well.

[donniedarko]

^ only three movies Gone Baby Gone, The town, and Argo, all three are Wonderful. Not big on Casey, the killer inside me was absolute ****

[TylerDurden99]

Casey was great in The Assassination Of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford.

[rauldc14]

Love Gone Baby Gone (obviously). To me, it don't matter if you saw the ending coming from a mile away. Great storyline, great characters, and great writing by Lehane and directing by Affleck.

[JayDee]

That's what starring in Battlefield Earth does to a career. Lot atoning to do.


Oh wow did he? Didn't know that. The poor b**tard!!! :D

[Brodinski]

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# 64
Gran Torino
(2008, Eastwood)

51 points

[Brodinski]

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# 63
Signs
(2002, Shyamalan)

51 points

[JayDee]

Seen bits of pieces of Gran Torino but not watched it from start to finish yet. As for Signs, while I didn't put it on my list I do have to admit to kind of loving it in a guilty pleasure kind of way

[wintertriangles]

Double lame :(

[The Rodent]

Happy with those two... Signs is a bit of a marmite movie, you eitherlove it or hate it... I love it, it's a return to cinema of old with bumps in the night and shadows in the background and all that. Could have been better, but hey, it's still fun.

Just a shame that Shyalabalabingbong hasn't made anything decent since.

[donniedarko]

So exteremely happy Gran Torino has made it on the list, I had it at number ten on my list (making it the second movie from my list to make it). Rauld shall also be happy since this is too in his top 10 all time. It deserves to be higher but I expected lower. Well done MoFos who voted for it :up:

Haven't seen Signs

[Daniel M]

Really need to see Gran Torino as a massive fan of Clint Eastwood. Signs I think is a good film, don't think it's deserving of being so high up though.

[Miss Vicky]

I haven't seen Gran Torino. With the notable exception of A Perfect World, I've not liked any of the Clint Eastwood movies I've seen, so I didn't bother with this one.

I'm happy to see Signs make the cut, though I didn't vote for it. I seriously considered it for my list, but ultimately gave the #25 slot to a different Joaquin Phoenix movie.

I'm sure Yoda will be thrilled to see Signs make the cut.

[DexterRiley]

Early reaction is negative towards Gine baby Gone which is surprising to me, I think it's as good as Mystic River, it has an unforgettable score (I even bought a few of the songs from it on Itunes). It was sad and had a hell of a twist.

Edit: This is Raulds 4th favorite film so that's a good chunk of points right there, man all of Raylds picks are making it but can't catch a break when they do

Gone baby Gone is better than Mystic River imo.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I voted for Signs at #17 on my list.

It's a great film. Screw all of you who hate it and my Mel Gibson and Miss Vicky's and sometimes my Joaquin Phoenix.

[Yoda]

I had Signs on my list, too. It's a really incredibly well-made, well-acted film with a beautiful score and a lovely message.

[wintertriangles]

I had Signs on my list, too. It's a really incredibly well-made, well-acted film with a beautiful score and a lovely message.Well shot maybe. What's the message? Wooden houses are alien proof?

[Yoda]

That things happen for a reason; even when we don't understand what that reason is.

I find the logistical/plot hole questions to be dramatically overstated, and they kinda miss the point anyway. If you look at it like a sci-fi film, I imagine it doesn't stack up. But as a drama about a family searching for meaning and coping with tragedy, it works beautifully.

And yeah, the score. The score's great.

[wintertriangles]

That things happen for a reason; even when we don't understand what that reason is.Forgive me for not trusting a message from a man who hasn't finished a film, regardless of having "endings" and whatnot. That's also highly debatable as a truth, but anyway, yes the music is good.

[TheUsualSuspect]

I like both of those movie sure enough, but the kids acting in Gran Torino is some of the worst I've seen. Yuck.

[TylerDurden99]

I had Signs on my list, and I really like Gran Torino as well.

[rauldc14]

I like both of those movie sure enough, but the kids acting in Gran Torino is some of the worst I've seen. Yuck.

But from an Eastwood acting standpoint, other than Unforgiven it may be his best performance.

Love the last 2 obviously. I didn't have Signs on my list, but it would have been around 30.

[rauldc14]

Now all I need is Mystic River and Million Dollar Baby to make the list and we are set. Didn't vote for Wedding Crashers since it would be like HK voting for Charlie's Angels :p

[Yoda]

Forgive me for not trusting a message from a man who hasn't finished a film, regardless of having "endings" and whatnot. That's also highly debatable as a truth, but anyway, yes the music is good.
Well, yeah, it is debatable, but I was just describing why I liked it; your mileage my vary. Right or wrong, it's a lovely idea that is well exemplified by the story, and all films need to be at least somewhat judged on how well they achieve their goals.

Not sure I follow the idea of "trusting" him to finish things. If you're saying you don't like any of his endings, we'll probably just have to disagree. I don't think he's made a good film since Signs, but I think he made nothing but good films before that.

[honeykid]

Didn't vote for Wedding Crashers since it would be like HK voting for Charlie's Angels :p

You mean honest and representative of your preferences? Yeah, it'd be awful to vote for what you really like, rather than what you'd like others to see you like, wouldn't it?

[Yoda]

It depends on why you like it, yeah? If you really like it as a movie, then you should vote for it. But if you just like it because you think Drew Barrymore is hot, then the vote isn't an expression about any actual cinematic preference, and thus it doesn't make sense within the context of this poll.

I mean, I love my wife. Should I put our wedding video on my list of favorite movies?

[rauldc14]

I just put thought there wasn't a shot in hell Wedding Crashers would make it, so I left it off. And although I love the film I'm a bit biased because of McAdams as well.

[honeykid]

It depends on why you like it, yeah? If you really like it as a movie, then you should vote for it. But if you just like it because you think Drew Barrymore is hot, then the vote isn't an expression about any actual cinematic preference, and thus it doesn't make sense within the context of this poll.
If I was just adding films because Drew's hot, they'd all be in there.

I mean, I love my wife. Should I put our wedding video on my list of favorite movies?
If it'd had a cinema release, why not. :D

[Sleezy]

Signs is fantastic. Had it on my list.

I haven't seen Gran Torino.

[Yoda]

If I was just adding films because Drew's hot, they'd all be in there.
Perhaps you like the movie more than her others, but it's pretty clearly on your list because of her, and not merely because of its inherent cinematic quality, aye? That's the salient point.

This is kind of like picking Men in Black for best cinematography just because you think it's really funny, even though the two have nothing to do with one another.

[honeykid]

No, it's favourites. The reason for it being a favourite is immaterial.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Lady in the Water was weird, and nothing like Signs or The Sixth Sense, but at the time I saw it, I thought it was good and I really liked the ending. His other newer movies I haven't seen, like The Village and The Happening. Want to see The Happening at some point.

[Yoda]

No, it's favourites. The reason for it being a favourite is immaterial.
But the list exists to show us our collective cinematic tastes, yes? That's what it's trying to find out. So the reason at least being cinematic is clearly implied, because it's a list of movies and not just a list of things.

I could pick my wedding video. And you could pick some amateur short film your 15-year-old nephew made just because of your affection for him. But I'm pretty sure we're not trying to measure how much I love my wife or how supportive you are of your nephew, so such choices are pretty clearly outside of the spirit of the thing.

[wintertriangles]

Can I vote for your wedding video next time?

[Skepsis93]

If other aesthetic aspects like cinematography, set/art design etc can be cinematic factors in how much we enjoy a film, then it's feasible that how good the actor looks could play a part too, isn't it? You replace Naomi Watts and Laura Harring with Kathy Bates and 2000's Faye Dunaway and most people experience a very different Mulholland Drive.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yoda, did you put your wedding video up somewhere? I wanna see.

[Skepsis93]

*Checks to see if Yoda has replaced one of his favorites with "My Wedding Video"...*

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[Godoggo]

I didn't vote for Signs, but I really do like it.

I haven't seen Gran Torino, nor do I want to. I'm going to watch it just I want to see every movie on this list, but with a couple of exceptions I can't stand most movies Eastwood has directed.

[wintertriangles]

but with a couple of exceptions I can't stand most movies Eastwood has directed.Agreed

[Tyler1]

I beg to differ, having pretty much enjoyed everything Eastwood has made. I have great respect for an American director who knows how to direct an honest, heartfelt movie without the typical mawkishly sentimental BS (hint: Spielberg).

@rauldc I hope Mystic River makes it on the list. Sean Penn's acting in that was phenomenal.

[wintertriangles]

without the typical mawkishly sentimental BS (hint: Spielberg).That also includes Eastwood sir!

[gandalf26]

Bit unfair on Eastwoods Directing abilities some of you. He has Directed some legitimately "Great" films of the past 40 years. Yes he has directed some not very good films but not many Director's do hit every time. Look at some of the dogshit Spielberg has directed in recent years.

Great Eastwood Films;

The Outlaw Josey Wales
Pale Rider
Unforgiven
Mystic River
Million Dollar Baby

Good Eastwood Films;

Play Misty for Me
High Plains Drifter
Firefox (a personal fav of mine)
Heartbreak Ridge
A Perfect World
The Bridges of Madison County
Flags of Our Fathers
Letters from Iwo Jima
Changeling
Gran Torino

(I haven't yet seen some of his latest films).

[Miss Vicky]

You made a mistake there. You put A Perfect World in the wrong list.

[The Rodent]

He also forgot to put Every Which Way You Can in the Greats list :suspicious:

[Yoda]

Yeah, his list is all wrong. Why, it doesn't look anything like my list.

[honeykid]

But the list exists to show us our collective cinematic tastes, yes?
Exactly. So by omitting a genuine choice for something deemed more 'worthy' or which is considered having a better chance of making the list, it's portraying a false representative. Our collective cinematic tastes can only be reflected by the list if we actually submit the films we like and not try to get as many choices as possible onto the list.

That's what it's trying to find out. So the reason at least being cinematic is clearly implied, because it's a list of movies and not just a list of things.
I know it's not escaped your attention, but Charlie's Angels is a movie. A movie that was released worldwide. This isn't a list of 'the most cinematic films of the century thus far.' That was never the remit.


I could pick my wedding video. And you could pick some amateur short film your 15-year-old nephew made just because of your affection for him. But I'm pretty sure we're not trying to measure how much I love my wife or how supportive you are of your nephew, so such choices are pretty clearly outside of the spirit of the thing.
Yes they are, because they weren't made for or released cinematically. I know I'm repeating myself, but Charlie's Angels was. So was The Wedding Crashers, thereby making it a valid choice.

[Yoda]

Exactly. So by omitting a genuine choice for something deemed more 'worthy' or which is considered having a better chance of making the list, it's portraying a false representative. Our collective cinematic tastes can only be reflected by the list if we actually submit the films we like and not try to get as many choices as possible onto the list.
Yeah, this isn't what I'm saying at all. I'm not talking about prostrating your cinematic tastes to more mainstream ones. They can, and should, be as idiosyncratic as each of us. That's the fun of it. :) I'm talking about choosing films for altogether non-cinematic reasons. That's an important distinction.

For example: picking Charlie's Angels because you actually think it's a hugely underappreciated comedic masterpiece is an odd notion, but hey, different strokes, right? Picking it because Drew Barrymore is hot, on the other hand, isn't an expression of cinematic quirkiness. It's an expression of something that has basically nothing to do with cinema. It's kind of like saying your favorite book is Playboy. It's still got words and everything, but you're not expressing a literary preference by choosing it.

Yes they are, because they weren't made for or released cinematically. I know I'm repeating myself, but Charlie's Angels was. So was The Wedding Crashers, thereby making it a valid choice.
It's not the lack of a theatrical release that would make me picking my wedding video malapropos. It's the fact that I'd be picking it because I love my wife, and therefore wouldn't really be expressing a cinematic preference--quirky or otherwise--by selecting it.

[The Rodent]

I know what Yods is saying... my reviews thread for instance... I don't like Titanic, I don't even like Avatar, yet they're both rated at 97% and 96% respectively. And, Spoiler Alert: neither are going to appear in my top 100, even though I rated them at those high percentages.

Yet Star Wars Episode 3 I rated at a low score in my reviews, but it still made #100 in my in-progress Top 100... because even though it's a pap movie, personally I still like it.