Manhunter vs. Red Dragon.

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Manhunter vs. Red Dragon.

Well? Care to wax eloquent? Think the first was a masterpiece and the latter a shameless exploitation?

Think the first did not live up to the novel?

Hmmm?

Tom Noonan more convincing as Dolarhyde than ... ahem.. Ralph Fiennes?

I'm reserving judgement. I like Ed Norton... I like Hopkins... I like Fiennes too so I'll just have to see.

I will admit to a sour taste in my mouth from Hannibal so I can't say my opinion will be completely objective.



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They are just trying to cash in on the Silence/Hannibal craze.

silence was so profitable they would market a Hannibal cereal that tastes like favre beans and kidney if they could.
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i doubt it will be as good as manhunter, who is directing the new one? ridley scott again?
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Man hunter was ****! It was absolutly horrible, michael mann was good, but Hannibal, he was horrible, and Will Grahme, wasnt half as cool as he should be. They are ruining the series, they arent cashing in (althrough they will) they have the oppurtunity to make a great film, and why the hell not?

Brett Ratner is directing this, not as good as Demme, but good nonetheless. He did rush hour, it was good, heres his chance to shine.

Dont make judgements on a movie that isnt out yet.
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I have very high expectations for this movie(won't be the first time), I firmly believe it will rival SotL. Ray as a villian...sweeett!!!
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Well, to me the benefits are Ed Norton and of course Hopkins. I don't know...I guess I'm expecting a different kind of film and 'm going to let Manhunter stand alone for what it was.

Either way I'm looking forward to it.



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Personally, I found Manhunter's world to be a little too clean. In Silence of the Lambs, Lecter lived in a pratically condemned building, but in Mann's Manhunter, he lived in what could only be considered large corporation's complex.

I'll probably check Red Dragon out just to see how well they blended it with an already made sequel. Ratner shows promise with taking on a project like this and as well as taking on a project that goes by the name of Superman.
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Fun fact of the day:
In Sweden, Manhunter was released as "Röda Draken" which is Swedish for "Red Dragon" (or, rather, "The Red Dragon" but you know... whatever) Kinda makes me wonder how they'll release this one.
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A novel adaptation.
Heh, you wacky swedes are always messing things up.

What's the verdict?
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Red Dragon mops the floor with Manhunter in almost every way.

WARNING: "Red Dragon & Manhunter" spoilers below
The remake could've done with more tension concerning the blind girl, though. That's the only thing the original really has on the remake. Perhaps they thought it'd seem too much like a ripoff of the SOTL scene where Clarice is groping around in the pitch-black basement?
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I liked them both...If u forced me to choose i would take Manhunter and here is why...

The opening scene of Red Dragon where Ed Norton shoots Anthony Hopkins ...takes every ounce of suspense out of the rest of the film...Whereas it's a great scene, Nortons character has beatin the big bad anthony hopkins in the first 5 minutes of the film...We have no doubt he will prevail throughout the rest of the film...William Peterson played it a little differently mainly because u didn't see that scene in Manhunter...but it's obvious his character is way more uneasy and scared around Lector...U dodn't no if he'll hold it together for the rest of the film, will he crack under the pressure, will he succomb to his fear?

Ed Norton isn't afraid of Lector beacuse he beat him already...so where is the drama, wher is the suspense...there isn't any - it's diffused...
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I liked them both...If u forced me to choose i would take Manhunter and here is why...

The opening scene of Red Dragon where Ed Norton shoots Anthony Hopkins ...takes every ounce of suspense out of the rest of the film...Whereas it's a great scene, Nortons character has beatin the big bad anthony hopkins in the first 5 minutes of the film...We have no doubt he will prevail throughout the rest of the film...William Peterson played it a little differently mainly because u didn't see that scene in Manhunter...but it's obvious his character is way more uneasy and scared around Lector...U dodn't no if he'll hold it together for the rest of the film, will he crack under the pressure, will he succomb to his fear?

Ed Norton isn't afraid of Lector beacuse he beat him already...so where is the drama, wher is the suspense...there isn't any - it's diffused...
The film doesn't appear to be about this so much; that's more for the trailer. It's more about the uneasiness of them working together and Graham's risk taking by consulting a serial killer who has a reason to personally hate him. Hannibal doesn't seem to have too much of an affect on whether Will solves the case or not; I think he rarely weighs in with much at all- so maybe it's more of a question of to what extent they will be able to work as partners.
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Red Dragon for me simply because the characters are way more enjoyable
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Haven`t seen Manhunter so can only express my opinion on Red Dragon. Cool, really thrilling movie! Not only Hopkins but all the actors are superb. However, it seems to me that Crawford should have been played by someone else but instead of Harvey Keitel, his face is too kind I think



i liked manhunter coz it's directed by michael mann, one of my favorite directors, but i think red dragon is the better movie for sure, it's more modern in the direction, more sure footed.



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Having seen both films exactly once, Manhunter is the only one I feel that I could watch a second time.
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