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I recently went with some friends and watched 300 for a second time. On the first viewing, I was still just absorbing the admittedly gorgeous visual tableux, and was only bothered briefly by the movie's cheesier aspects. The second time through, though, I found myself in desperate need of a shower after leaving the theater. I am something of a fascist, and I don't necessarily object to 'homophobia,' racialism, militarism, eugenics etc. I rather admire the Spartan lifestyle and worldview.

Nonetheless, I was more than a little disgusted with myself for twice spending money on a film by people who obviously have no real committment to these sorts of beliefs, but are willing to package a very ugly shorthand version of them on the theory that there are lots of bigots out there to eat this stuff up. It was absurd enough when Mel Gibson included his totally superfluous anti-gay diatribes in Braveheart, but at least they genuinely represent Mel's own convictions. It's pretty obvious that the people behind 300 aren't racist, misogynist, gay bashers, just that they're willing to play at it for fun and profit. When I walked out of Braveheart, I felt like I had been cheated out of $6.50 and four hours of my life: when I walked out of 300 for the second time, I felt like I had paid for the privilege of having someone piss down my throat.



So what you're saying is that you would have been perfectly fine with watching it the second time if you had felt that the makers of 300 actually were homophobic, racist, misogynist pricks, right?



I recently went with some friends and watched 300 for a second time. On the first viewing, I was still just absorbing the admittedly gorgeous visual tableux, and was only bothered briefly by the movie's cheesier aspects. The second time through, though, I found myself in desperate need of a shower after leaving the theater. I am something of a fascist, and I don't necessarily object to 'homophobia,' racialism, militarism, eugenics etc. I rather admire the Spartan lifestyle and worldview.

Nonetheless, I was more than a little disgusted with myself for twice spending money on a film by people who obviously have no real committment to these sorts of beliefs, but are willing to package a very ugly shorthand version of them on the theory that there are lots of bigots out there to eat this stuff up. It was absurd enough when Mel Gibson included his totally superfluous anti-gay diatribes in Braveheart, but at least they genuinely represent Mel's own convictions. It's pretty obvious that the people behind 300 aren't racist, misogynist, gay bashers, just that they're willing to play at it for fun and profit. When I walked out of Braveheart, I felt like I had been cheated out of $6.50 and four hours of my life: when I walked out of 300 for the second time, I felt like I had paid for the privilege of having someone piss down my throat.
I haven't seen 300 and probably won't, since my taste in movies runs more to The 300 Spartans (1962), starring Richard Egan, rather than comic book recreations. However, I'm surprised to learn 300 is homophobic since based on what I remember reading about Sparta and later Rome, both cities encouraged homosexuality within their armies as a special means of enhancing loyalty among their soldiers. I remember reading that at least one of those groups (I'm thinking Roman but it could have been both) followed a practice of soldiers chaining themselves to their homosexual lovers prior to battle so that if one fell, his partner would fight to the death in defense of his body rather than retreat. Whoever scripted 300 apparently was like singer Sam Cooke's "Wonderful World" hit of the 1960s that opens with "Don't know much about history . . . "



Can't say that it exactly made me feel "dirty," but for all the really good actors giving top notch performances, Reservoir Dogs was the most depressing, soul-deadening movie I've ever seen.

Also 9 1/2 Weeks (1986), Last Tango in Paris (1973), and I Am Curious Yellow had no redeeming social value.



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Oldboy, for sure. Also, the masturbation scene in Mulholland Drive, as well, simply because Watts plays it in such a way that you can really feel the pain/depression/psychosis she is experiencing during the act. Haunting and brutally intimate. Watts cites this scene as when she broke through to become a better actress. The scene is quite disarming, very grimy and gritty.
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Requiem for a Dream (the party scene)
I Spit On Your Grave (rape scene)
Deliverence (rape scene)
Irreversible (rape scene)
Last House on the Left (rape scene)
Visitor Q (necrophilia scene)
Aftermath (necrophilia scene)
Cannibal Holocaust (every scene)
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each and every Back to the Future installment (c'mon...pooooo)
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Though I thought it was pretty good, Oldboy made me feel quite dirty, for obvious reasons.
Oldboy Made me feel uncomfortable at times (I'm a little funny about teeth), but I didn't leave feeling dirty because I never felt like the film encouraged me to revel in its nasty aspects, but rather to be revolted by it.



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the film that make me feel that way is requiem for a dream.
I had to give somebody a dollar after watching that movie. a homeless person. and then I had to take a shower. great movie though.
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Blue Velvet and not in a good way.

Frenzy, also not in a good way.

There is probably more but I can't think of them right now.
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The Movie Kids for me especially the rape at the end of the movie.
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Requiem For A Dream for so many reasons

Dogville-Nicole Kidman getting raped in the apple cart
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Nonetheless, I was more than a little disgusted with myself for twice spending money on a film by people who obviously have no real committment to these sorts of beliefs, but are willing to package a very ugly shorthand version of them on the theory that there are lots of bigots out there to eat this stuff up. It was absurd enough when Mel Gibson included his totally superfluous anti-gay diatribes in Braveheart, but at least they genuinely represent Mel's own convictions. It's pretty obvious that the people behind 300 aren't racist, misogynist, gay bashers, just that they're willing to play at it for fun and profit. When I walked out of Braveheart, I felt like I had been cheated out of $6.50 and four hours of my life: when I walked out of 300 for the second time, I felt like I had paid for the privilege of having someone piss down my throat.
Alright, I'll take the debate if no one else wants too...

Since you chose not to enlighten us with where you felt 300's homophobia, I am going to venture a guess and say that the characterization of Xerxes illustrates the homophobia of Miller, Snyder, and co. (This being the point of contention I have heard from others. If yours differs, feel free to enlighten me.) Xerxes is pointedly feminine. However, his femininity only stands in contrast to the masculinity of the Spartans. Persia is decadent and soft, Sparta is pure and hard. The Spartans actually seem to laud homosexuality. The hunchback is tempted with woman, while the Spartans rebuke their women in favor of the men around them. Their adoration of Leonidas crosses the line from hero worship to admiration.

As for the right wing values, I cannot begin to find what would force you to question the intensity of Snyder/Miller's belief, but I hardly think that is relevant. A king stood alone in his moral rightness, while a Senate was led astray by corruption. King = good. Senate = bad.
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Braveheart

I felt guilty enjoying watching him take his vengeance out on the ones who killed his wife.



All the Snout...Twice the Ointment.
"The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover". Pretty much every scene. But mostly when two characters were forced to hide inside the back of a delivery truck...filled with rotting meat...naked. Ew.
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Apocalypto:

I enjoyed this movie, but I am a strong "family" man so I may be a bit biased. I mean what stupid idiot cuts the throat of a loved one in a Mel Gibson movie?....instant doom....
I did feel sickened and ashamed of being a man/human being when the heads of innocent persons were tossed down the steps and it was made a game of. I felt a bit dirty, a lot dirty, for being a man.
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