Serenity

Well I'm glad you decided to tell all of us here that liked the movie how wrong we are and what a waste of time us going to see it was

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I'm not going to say it's a perfect movie. There are some pacing problems, to be sure. But it stems from Joss Whedon making the film accessible to those who haven't seen Firefly. Kudos to him for doing as good a job as he could have, but still - it is a MUCH better film IF you've seen Firefly.

Soooooooo...go see Firefly. The film complements the show well, and the ending will make much more sense in relation to the story.

Awwwww, too bad. The ending was perfect, IMO. This film is just great storytelling. Sorry you didn't like it. Your loss, completely.

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Awwww. Here comes Sedai trying to put sense into me.

Nice try cupcake. It's just a movie.

It's called an opinion, sweetie...or should I provide you with a dic-tion-ary

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I thought it was good, but not great. I see Godsend's point, it wasn't hugely original, and was definitely missing some of the humour and romance of the show. But still much better than Episode 3...

When was I doing that, again? Certainly not in that comment you quoted.

I was mearly stating I liked it, and that it was your loss. Just my opinion.

Can we still be friends?

No, he's going to hate you forever.

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My only problem with the film, really, was...

When were you doing it? Ummm...in that comment I quoted. Yessir.

Your opinion=poopy

No, we can't be friends....but bitter enemies for a better show, EH?!

I kind of agree with you...

Yeah, I see what you mean...

For some reason I think the "?" posts mean that this movie tickled some hearts....Just me i guess.......

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SPOILERS: Honestly I thought the deaths were well done. Book was sorta expected, though Washs' was shocking. I know it seems as if they were handled poorly by the crew, but I feel thats how they would handle them. I think that if we get another film we will see Zoe struggling to deal with it through that film. I would enjoy seeing this. END SPOILERS

Cool, unfortunately, you have been written out, due to financial contraints, and a rights issue with The Teletubbies.

I really liked Serenity and I'm not a sci-fi fan really. The humour was fun with silly jokes from Jane and the whole crew. The action was decent and the visuals were stunning. OK I'll admit the ending was a little off putting but it didn't wreck the story at all for me. It's really similar to the TV show (I've seen 4 episodes ) but I'd give it a solid

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ok it's been a while since i've seen the movie, but, i went in without knowing anything about Firefly. i saw the trailer and tasted something i hadn't seen in a long time that i missed - a sense of the underdog and a sense of family in an uncertain future. something i used to feel with xfiles and star trek: TNG.

i enjoyed it a lot, but do remember feeling some things were predictable, but forgiveable, because by the standard, reliable storytelling formulas, these things must be done.



to have TWO losses like that is extreme in one film. It's a balancing act, and I think Whedon had to really work out how to 1) keep newcomers engaged and attached to the characters that it's most important for them to be attached to 2) keep existing fans engaged and justified by being faithful to the Firefly world and key characters and 3) get the greenlight on future films. if fox, for example, said there were just too many core characters and it's a hard sell, mightn't he have had to "trim off the fat"?

it's only now i've gotten around to watching the Firefly series and man, it's enjoyable. very fun, very engaging, sharp, witty, unique, original. i don't think it's terribly "adult" and there was one very edited nude scene where you saw as much as you'd have seen in Rodin's "The Thinker."

i'm hoping the movie did well enough and they get to make their sequels. even more, i'm hoping by some miracle the show gets to come back to tv, but i think it's a no-go since major changes have happened to the characters.

also, re: zoe and wash - i always felt really skeptical of those two. comments were dropped in the show that they married because the ship needed a pilot. when wash came on board, zoe didn't like him, but I don't think the series shows how they ended up together. i also noticed a distinct lack of "warmth" between the two of them in the show (they rarely kissed or flirted) but as the series progresses you do see more, it just sometimes seemed forced. i think that's something they may not have properly handled/developed believably in the series, so by the time we see stuff go down in the movie, we get some weird stuff with Wash and Zoe.

sidenote: joss has to get box office delivery on Serenity to get the green light on the rest of the trilogy being made. if serenity doesn't do well enough, there will be no further films. and he has already stated it's highly unlikely there will ever be a return to the small screen. the cast has signed on to do that trilogy, IF and WHEN it's a go.

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I disagree with you about the second major death being unnecessary because it functioned flawlessly. I could possibly see the logic in the 'trim the fat' scenario, but I don't think that was the case; however, even if it was, the second death completely demolishes the thought barrier that existed in every, single viewers mind (at least who watched the TV show) that the core characters were all safe. That death was the single reason that everything past it was so succesful. No longer was the audience secretly convinced that their heroes were safe and in the end, it'll all be okay. It upped the ante exponentially, created a dire since of immediacy and danger and I think it was a masterful move on the part of Joss Whedon.

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Serenity was one of the best films of 05. I liked it better than Revenge of the Sith. And it had what... one millionth of the budget?

When any movie gives me goosebumps, and Serenity did, involving a certain fight scene with River and a comment to her brother, that's a good movie in my book.

At some point, one has to quit technically dissecting a movie and give in to the emotional experience. On that level, Serenity was right on target.

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i think you're right in that recognizing death can come get any of those you believed were untouchable was necessary. that, too, is a standard story telling formula. the thing is, it was already accomplished with Sheperd. Doing it twice was extraneous. If you figure Sheperd as "less meaningful" to the core group, then they should have, in order to balance things, killed Wash, and Wash alone. Or killed Sheperd, and wounded Wash. Or wounded Sheperd, and killed Wash. Plus, plenty of other characters could have been wounded instead or come near death.

Either way, two deaths, in one movie, the majority of it's fans having known both of these characters very well and for a long time?
That's a major statement above and beyond "death can take family, any time, and shake your foundations". It's to say that in the show, we could afford to have all of those characters take equal space. In the movie, and the franchise, we cannot. So, trimming of fat.

I will just say, as a fan of the show beforehand...



But, I stayed, because I felt any film that would do that to me, must be great, and I clearly cared about the characters...