Total film's 100 Greatest movies

[quote=Lester Burnham]So the film magazine has done a list of the 100 Greatest movies, and here are the results:

Too high on the list...
Fight Club
Empire Strikes Back
Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid
Back to the Future

Too low on the list...
The Godfather
Raging Bull
Star Wars
ET
Bladerunner
Alien
Matrix
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Close Encounters
The Graduate
Wizard of Oz
Psycho
Casablanca

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i hate to disagree with you, but other ( respected ) members have tried that on me, so let's not be high and mighty here, we all make mistakes.....it just so happens that obiwan did it all the time....

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I have seen 21 of those films...Among my favorites are Magnolia, Donnie Darko, Halloween, TCM, and Stand By Me...I find it a little odd that they did not include American Beauty or the most glaringly obvious Titanic. And how is it that they mentioned a bunch of horror movies without listing Night of the Living Dead or A Nightmare on Elm Street. And there are suspiciously no Tim Burton films on the list either...

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Whoever said Titanic and Burton I must have to agree.

Burton's movies are all beautiful, and they are well acted.

Titanic, as much of a sell out movie it is, was still great. The brilliant minor character development and then death really helped sell the history of the Titanic's sinking and I believe it should be studied by every film student as a viable way of creating drama and compassion in a historically accurate romantic light.

American Beauty should be there, especially when heat is on the list.

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yeah...that was me...

I'm no administrator, but is it really that difficult to be civil and respect each other? This isn't a boxing ring; it's a place for people to discuss the movies they liked and didn't like...Why get so personal? That's all...I have nothing else to say about this and it is the last comment I am making on the subject at the moment.

I dont know who all has seen Donnie Darko, but i was surprised to see that film rated so low... I mean 87, considering the number of christians and the strong religous meanings behind it, i thought it also would have been more popular in the us, does anyone know why that movie was shot outa the sky in the us? it was a little drawn out but when i was finished i was stunned with the outcome. . .
Also justa thought and maybe im wrong, Halloween is nice to watch and all but top 100 movies. . . If you can find me one person who could honestly say that Halloween is a greater film than The Shining i think i would have to kill myself. . . Seriously Psycho... PSYCHO does no one realize that you cant even compare these genres? i mean to put a movie like halloween in the same league as Psycho, The Shining. . . and on top of that have it atop them both... i dunno im rambling now, but that just rubs me the wrong way...

Ramble away

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Haha wow. Where is Schindlers List?!? Hotel Rwanda?

I don't like Heat either. I found it stodgy, predictable and totally forgettable.

Goodfellas is a fantastic movie. Almost every scene is a classic in its own right, and yet the film flows superbly well. I doubt if it's the best film ever, but it's worthy of consideration. It is head and shoulders above every other American film in the last 20 years.

That list is so terrible; it's like the readers voted...but then they add some classic arthouse choices just to make the list appear more respectable. It still looks like trash though - I wouldn't be surprised if Sin City was in there. It's like compiling a list of the greatest novels ever written and then including trashy, popular fiction like The Da Vinci Code and then squeezing in The Brothers Kamarazov at the last minute, at #70 or something. God, it's awful.

edit: why the hell didn't they include any Kurosawa films?

I don't see what the problem is with a list containing 'popular' (not trashy) films like Sin City and 'arthouse' films. It is possible for people to like both.

good list..

Just out of curiosity, how many people have looked up Total Film's Top 100 as voted by readers?

Here it is...

1 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back
2 Fight Club
3 Pulp Fiction
4 The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King
5 The Shawshank Redemption
6 GoodFellas
7 The Godfather
8 The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring
9 Jaws
10 Donnie Darko
11 Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope
12 The Usual Suspects
13 The Matrix
14 Raiders Of The Lost Ark
15 Se7en
16 The Godfather: Part II
17 Gladiator
18 Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind
19 Aliens
20 Sin City
21 The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers
22 LA Confidential
23 Taxi Driver
24 Die Hard
25 Batman Begins
26 Back To The Future
27 Schindler’s List
28 Spider-Man 2
29 The Big Lebowski
30 Heat
31 Reservoir Dogs
32 Blade Runner
33 Terminator 2: Judgment Day
34 Alien
35 X-Men 2
36 Annie Hall
37 Léon
38 Casablanca
39 Apocalypse Now
40 Memento
41 Jurassic Park
42 It’s A Wonderful Life
43 One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest
44 Monty Python And The Holy Grail
45 The Third Man
46 The Good, The Bad And The Ugly
47 Toy Story 2
48 A Clockwork Orange
49 Moulin Rouge!
50 The Apartment
51 The Wild Bunch
52 ET: The Extra-Terrestrial
53 Trainspotting
54 Raging Bull
55 City Of God
56 Stand By Me
57 The Thing
58 Scarface (1983)
59 Airplane!
60 The Silence Of The Lambs
61 Blue Velvet
62 Seven Samurai
63 Citizen Kane
64 2001: A Space Odyssey
65 Shaun Of The Dead
66 Pirates Of The Caribbean: Curse Of The Black Pearl
67 Close Encounters Of The Third Kind
68 Lawrence Of Arabia
69 Halloween
70 The Searchers
71 Rocky
72 Once Upon A Time In The West
73 Platoon
74 Kill Bill: Vol. 1
75 Magnolia
76 The Deer Hunter
77 The Shining
78 American Beauty
79 Fargo
80 Chinatown
81 Saving Private Ryan
82 Vertigo
83 King Kong (2005)
84 Goldfinger
85 The Wizard Of Oz
86 Dawn Of The Dead
87 Requiem For A Dream
88 The Terminator
89 Psycho
90 Brokeback Mountain
91 Dr. Strangelove Or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love the Bomb
92 The Bourne Supremacy
93 The Incredibles
94 Some Like It Hot
95 Spirited Away
96 Rear Window
97 The Texas Chain Saw Massacre
98 This Is Spinal Tap
99 Forrest Gump
100 The Exorcist

Now, who thinks this list is better or worse than the original list?

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The readers' list has the usual huge recent and English-language slants. It isn't the very worst I've seen, quite. Here it is broken down:

Also made the true top 100 list (ie mine )-

1 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back
6 GoodFellas
7 The Godfather
16 The Godfather: Part II
34 Alien
39 Apocalypse Now
38 Casablanca
45 The Third Man
47 Toy Story 2
59 Airplane!
61 Blue Velvet
62 Seven Samurai
63 Citizen Kane
64 2001: A Space Odyssey
68 Lawrence Of Arabia
70 The Searchers
79 Fargo
82 Vertigo
86 Dawn Of The Dead
91 Dr. Strangelove Or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love the Bomb
93 The Incredibles
94 Some Like It Hot

Can see a case for them being top 100-

2 Fight Club
3 Pulp Fiction
8 The Lord Of The Rings: The Fellowship Of The Ring
9 Jaws
11 Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope
12 The Usual Suspects
14 Raiders Of The Lost Ark
23 Taxi Driver
26 Back To The Future
27 Schindler’s List
31 Reservoir Dogs
36 Annie Hall
42 It’s A Wonderful Life
43 One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest
42 It’s A Wonderful Life
43 One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest
51 The Wild Bunch
52 ET: The Extra-Terrestrial
54 Raging Bull
55 City Of God
72 Once Upon A Time In The West
80 Chinatown
85 The Wizard Of Oz
89 Psycho
95 Spirited Away
96 Rear Window
98 This Is Spinal Tap

Good films, not all time top 100 material-

10 Donnie Darko
13 The Matrix
15 Se7en
17 Gladiator
18 Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind
19 Aliens
22 LA Confidential
24 Die Hard
28 Spider-Man 2
29 The Big Lebowski
33 Terminator 2: Judgment Day
35 X-Men 2
41 Jurassic Park
44 Monty Python And The Holy Grail
53 Trainspotting
57 The Thing
60 The Silence Of The Lambs
65 Shaun Of The Dead
66 Pirates Of The Caribbean: Curse Of The Black Pearl
69 Halloween
71 Rocky
73 Platoon
74 Kill Bill: Vol. 1
76 The Deer Hunter
77 The Shining
78 American Beauty
81 Saving Private Ryan
83 King Kong (2005)
84 Goldfinger
88 The Terminator
90 Brokeback Mountain
97 The Texas Chain Saw Massacre
100 The Exorcist

Have no business anywhere near a top 100-

5 The Shawshank Redemption
20 Sin City
25 Batman Begins
30 Heat
37 Léon
48 A Clockwork Orange
49 Moulin Rouge!
56 Stand By Me
58 Scarface (1983)
67 Close Encounters Of The Third Kind
75 Magnolia
87 Requiem For A Dream
99 Forrest Gump

Haven't yet seen-

4 The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King
21 The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers
32 Blade Runner
50 The Apartment
92 The Bourne Supremacy

Here are some 60-odd films (listed by date of release) that deserve to be included on any best films list that encompasses the whole history of the movie industry instead of the last 40-50 years. I’ve tried not to duplicate any of the entries on Total’s top 100 list. Many of those are good, some are outstanding, but I doubt if many of the films from the last 20 years—GoodFellas, for example—will be remembered more than 90 years after their release like some of the old classics from the silent screen.

Charlie Chaplin
Idle Class (1921)
Gold Rush (1925)
City Lights (1931)
Modern Times (1936)
Great Dictator (1940)

Keaton
The General (1927)
Steamboat Bill Jr. (1928)
The Cameraman (1928)

Harold Lloyd
Safety Last! (1923)
The Kid Brother (1927)


Intolerance (1916) D.W. Griffith
Way Down East (1920) D.W. Griffith
Greed (1924)
The Big Parade (1925)
The Battleship Potemkin (1925, USSR)
The Jazz Singer (1927), it was the first feature-length Hollywood “talkie” film in which spoken dialogue was used as part of the dramatic action.

The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1923) Lon Chaney in makeup
The Thief of Bagdad (1924) particularly for its special effects
The Phantom of the Opera (1925) Again, Lon Chaney
Wings (1927)
The Cocoanuts (1929)
Hell's Angels (1930), some of the best air combat sequences ever filmed
All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
M (1931)
Howard Hawks’ original Scarface (1932)
Mutiny on the Bounty (1935)
A Night at the Opera (1935)
Grand Illusion (1937)
The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938)
Gone With the Wind (1939)
Stagecoach (1939)
The Maltese Falcon (1941)
The Ox-Bow Incident (1943)
Double Indemnity (1944)
The Best Years of Our Lives (1946)
The Big Sleep (1946)
Out of the Past (1947)
Miracle on 34th Street (1947)
3 Godfathers (1948)
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948)
Rashomon (1951)
A Streetcar Named Desire (1951)
The Quiet Man (1952)
From Here to Eternity (1953)
The Wages of Fear (1953)
The Seven Samurai (1954)
Blackboard Jungle (1955)
Rebel Without a Cause (1955)
Anatomy of a Murder (1959)
Village of the Damned (1960)
The Hustler (1961)
Judgment at Nuremberg (1961)
To Kill a Mockingbird (1962)
The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
Hud (1963)
Dr. Strangelove (1964)
Sleuth (1972)
The Last Detail (1973)
Young Frankenstein (1974)
The Right Stuff (1983)
Blood Simple (1984)
Ran (1985)
A Fish Called Wanda (1988)
Do the Right Thing (1989)

Now I just have to ask what you mean by that.

Crikey rufnek, reading that list i was really shocked many of those weren't on the list. Good work.

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