I'm Becoming a Fabulous Atheist

It's one of many debunks, dearest, but perhaps my favourite, because it shows how easily you'll assume the worst is happening when it comes to religions. The only reason I've kept repeating it is because you've stood by it for so long, throwing it around amongst your standard 'Medieval' repertoire and defending it outright as having 'seen it with your own eyes' etc.

It's one of the many reasons it's almost impossible to discuss the valid points you do raise. They're mired in a morass of pre-ordained belief. Kinda ironic.

What, no hyperbole?

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I see 42nd finally admitted that he was wrong about the gravestones. Not much of a mea culpa, though:

Why did it take you so long to admit this? And why are you brushing off the fact that you were so casual with the truth? Have you ever stopped to think what it says about your objectivity that you so readily accept things that fit into your worldview, even if they're false?

You're confirming everything being said about you with every post, for crying out loud. Every logical rejoinder is ignored, replaced by vague examples of religious abuse. I don't know what logical circuit in your mind has to go missing for you to think that these constitute a basis from which to despise the whole of religious practice across the world, but they don't. They just don't. It's a form of generalization so extreme and fallacious that I'm stunned I have to point it out.

Now, either you have actual responses to the points being made, or you don't. And given that you've been repeating yourself and avoiding every argument thrown your way for the last couple of weeks, I think it's a pretty safe bet that you don't. So stop wasting everyone's time: answer the posts and arguments being addressed to you, or man up, concede that you can't, and move on.

Also, I've sent you this same warning via PM, but I'll repeat it here, so that people have a heads-up in case anything goes down: if you keep trying to drag this discussion into other threads again, you'll be banned. Your religious bigotry has a big enough stage on which to commit intellectual suicide in this thread already. Please consider this your final warning on the matter.

Well, he asked for it. Literally.

If anyone cares to read any choice excerpts from 42nd's final rant to confirm that it was ban-worthy, PM me and they're all yours.

Suffice to say, the post did not contain the previously requested response to any of the points being made. It did contain quite a few adjectives, though, so there's that.

At least Peter Cushing isn't there anymore. I'd shudder to think of him speaking that way, even with Darth Vader or Count Dracula.

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Let me guess, were these adjectives largely represented by stars instead of letters?

Somehow only one had ****. That was the first word.

God, I am so surprised. I just didn't see this coming! Why? WHY?!!

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Because you are not a believer, Matt.

*cross self and looks upward*

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Maybe this is a good time to clarify this. Matthew, how much percent of a "believer" are you, at this exact time?

That's an excellent question. I have no idea. I'd say it's probably 50/50, but that will probably change in the next five minutes, so I will have to get back to you.

Hey, it's been 19 minutes. Is it still 50% HA!

To me, the easiest way to decide if you're a believer and nobody else RIGHTFULLY thinks you're insane, is to pray. It's amazing what happens sometimes, but others will blow it off, but I'm just trying to post a few random idiotic thoughts here. YIKES!

Actually, I just rather not share my own beliefs. It's a private matter. I'm all for discussing beliefs and arguments for them and some of those might actually be my own opinion. However, I don't feel comfortable plastering my religious beliefs, or lack thereof, all over a message board. I won't shout it in the streets either. Depending on the person, I might divulge a little information but I am waiting for the right girl to share everything and anything with, beliefs included.

And I, of course, am sure you're cool with it.

Definitely not idiotic.

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Yes, I don't really believe in idiots as long as they try or have a plan. That doesn't keep me from wanting to understand them a little bit more ASAP, as you may imagine.

Hey Matthew, do you have a fave Elliott Smith song? Check this out and get back to us when you can.

That's easy; Angeles. What makes you ask?

I just wondered if it somehow corresponded to your current percentage as a "believer" at the time I asked. Don't worry. I'm done, for now.

How do you mean?

I find certain bands to be very spiritual. For example, Bob Marley and the Wailers, Morphine and Elliott Smith qualify, along with Grant Lee Buffalo and too many cliches to mention as of yet. So I was just wondeing if your answer earlier was more physical or spiritual, if you believe in such things...

Yes, I agree. I have a few CDs that invoke a strong sense of spiritualism, regardless of my opinion on the matter.