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I'm very sensitive to animal cruelty in film (in general, but it's a hard pass from me if it's unsimulated), and I don't remember thinking the death of the badger was real, but I also don't remember that part super well.

Okay, out of love I just rewatched the badger scene at half speed. Right before the car hits the animal, there is a noticable cut/jump. The car is clearly going by (but very close to!) the animal. Then it's an obviously stiff/fake animal and it's suddenly fully under the front tire, even though we just watched the front tire pass the real animal.

I think it's fake, though I do not approve of the stunt even if it is!
I saw some other people make similar observations. I guess there would be no reason to cut at all if it was real? At least, that wouldn't make any sense to me. I can be ok with this stuff if it is fake, but I am 100% with you for anything unsimulated.



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After watching only American movies, I'd get bored to death. It's like women, food, music, etc... Just one brand? I doubt I'll ever watch a "classic Hollywood" or noir again. It's like eating bread every night. But I don't want something so far out that it's unique, but not enjoyable.



That was my first impression. Any thoughts on the use of the cut?

I feel Takoma I'd probably right..it's been years since I've seen that scene and I remember being caught off guard by it, and so just immediately assumed it was real. Didn't want to Rewind to check.



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I went down a YouTube rabbit hole and ended up watching a Polish vlogger interviewing Jim Cummings, and Cummings said he thought that a Polish film (Corpus Christi) was the best movie he saw that year, so I put it on my watchlist.

I found it to be a really powerful meditation on faith and forgiveness, and how those things intersect with the natural tendency to form cliques and alliances in any social situation.

This is good to know, not only for the badger, but because I can never be sure if I ever saw the whole thing, but have never returned to it specifically because I didn't want to see that again if it was real. And my brain really accepted it as real
That kind of stuff is a deal-breaker for me, so if I'd thought it was real at the time, I probably wouldn't have finished the film.

I mean, I also think there's just as good a chance that they MEANT to hit the badger in that long take but somehow missed it. Obviously the animal's safety wasn't a priority for anyone who put that sequence together, whether the animal was actually killed or not.



I saw some other people make similar observations. I guess there would be no reason to cut at all if it was real? At least, that wouldn't make any sense to me. I can be ok with this stuff if it is fake, but I am 100% with you for anything unsimulated.
Yeah, I will not watch films with real animal deaths (with some very rare exceptions), and I tend to immediately stop a film if it pops up. I'm very glad that the internet has made it so much easier to screen for it these days.



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Yeah, I will not watch films with real animal deaths (with some very rare exceptions), and I tend to immediately stop a film if it pops up. I'm very glad that the internet has made it so much easier to screen for it these days.
Yes, that's one huge benefit! It has come in handy for me many a time.



I feel Takoma I'd probably right..it's been years since I've seen that scene and I remember being caught off guard by it, and so just immediately assumed it was real. Didn't want to Rewind to check.
Well, I trust you guys on this one. It will go on my to-watch list on the medium-timescale.



Yes, that's one huge benefit! It has come in handy for me many a time.
Doesthedogdie.com has been an absolute gift to me.

Well, I trust you guys on this one. It will go on my to-watch list on the medium-timescale.
If you want to skip the badger part, it comes right at the beginning and it's super obvious what's coming. After she runs over it, I don't think you see it again.



I forgot the opening line.
My watchlist is pretty ridiculous at the moment (I'm having a very watchlist-focused year next year.)

Oh - and American Animals is great.

My movie is A Matter of Dignity (1958)

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I hope you will take it as a compliment that I know that your recommendations may sometimes feel . . . challenging as a viewer. Forewarned is forearmed!



I hope you will take it as a compliment that I know that your recommendations may sometimes feel . . . challenging as a viewer. Forewarned is forearmed!

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And then to debate pointlessly at which side of it Reflections of Evil falls on.


For me, you'll find it on the same side as Orson Welles. For others, it will be keeping company with pigeon droppings and body odour and Baby Driver.



Doesthedogdie.com has been an absolute gift to me.



If you want to skip the badger part, it comes right at the beginning and it's super obvious what's coming. After she runs over it, I don't think you see it again.
Thanks, that website looks very helpful for the future!



The secret is to discover the invisible line that exists between challenging and awful.

And then to debate pointlessly at which side of it Reflections of Evil falls on.

For me, you'll find it on the same side as Orson Welles. For others, it will be keeping company with pigeon droppings and body odour and Baby Driver.
I am about 20 minutes in, and this is why I like threads/conversations like this because I would have never watched this on my own. The Tony Curtis overdub intro is amazing, and the lead actor losing his mind next to a bus stop poster of Miss Congeniality was hilarious. The loudly over-dubbed background conversations are incredible. "THAT'S TAFFY! YOU GET BETTER STYLES!"



Thanks, that website looks very helpful for the future!
I'm entirely serious when I say that if an animal appears in a horror or thriller film, I go immediately to that site. I has saved me from at least three films with unsimulated animal cruelty, one of which sounded particularly horrific.



Ha---I'm only concerned about animals here!
What you say in jest, I think many would say in earnest. We tend to be much more concerned about the stunt animal than the stunt person. Where is the website that shows us if humans were hurt in the making of the film?



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What you say in jest, I think many would say in earnest. We tend to be much more concerned about the stunt animal than the stunt person. Where is the website that shows us if humans were hurt in the making of the film?
While yes, it’s a real concern (or should be at least) stunt men, or stunt women, taking risks of their own volition in accordance with the job requirements is not the same thing as an animal being hurt (without their consent!) for a scene in the movie.