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You're the one who called everyone ignorant. What does that say? I dont think he needs to 'thank' you 'later'. You taught nothing, young chap.

Well, given they are drawn as looking like very young children it is not hard to make the connection. Specially in the "pedophobic" culture of the US, where being attracted to 17 year olds is regarded as pedophilia.

By the way, human memory works like that: you never remember exact sentences but abstract fragments.

Could I ask for you not being this condescending?

First, all of this is saved, and searchable, which means it's easy to compare your memory to reality before you hurl a baseless accusation at someone. Did you know I do this all the time? Before I accuse people of saying something, I usually double check it and provide a source. Why don't you?

Memory also gets more noisy over time, in fact some psychologists say that trials depend on imperfect memory and so tend to be very biased. I noticed that when scrolling back you aked when you ever called everyone ignorant. Sorry in advance but i feel a sudden bout of tourette's

IN YOUR OP. Damn, have a sore throat and dry mouth from all the drugs Ive been taking. Please dont make me yell again, I beg of thee.

Could I ask for you not being this condescending?

Oh man, I cannot tell you how difficult ths was in the state I'm currently in. Think I need to go downstairs to see "Oh No" my darling brazilian barista. Yes Guapo, he is a darling and he is from your old stomping ground. But soooo sooo tired..........................................

Sorry to make you post. I guess you should relax and don't try to read this thread anymore.

No need to be sorry - my lunch hasnt arrived yet so I'm just killing time because I dont like daytime tv on dyring the day and the books I have with me are too heavy to hold after injuring my arm 2 days ago. Bit of a bugger that, hey!. No need to be passive agro either, guapo. I actually like you but as I said, in this thread you're being hypersensitive and seeing insults that simply arent there.

Maybe you should print this out for your psych and ask his/her opinion. The insults you're seeing, matey, are coming out of your own head. You're projecting. And before you see that as an insult, my intent is not for it to be an insult. We all project at times.

I trashed a lot of popular manga and anime titles as well in forums about those things as well as among friends and family, I also trashed non-Hollywood live action movies even here as well. I guess that you might have gotten the impression that I was focusing on trashing Hollywood movies but that was never the case, I just criticized some Hollywood movies which is expected given it's a site about criticizing (mostly) Hollywood movies. Most of them are Hollywood movies because most movies talked about in this forum are Hollywood movies because this is an American forum and movies to most Americans means Hollywood movies.

I don't trash the anime that people here love and I don't like here because I never saw anime titles that people here love and I actually disliked here. Thing is that the few anime titles that people here talked about are the absolutely most popular and accessible masterpieces like Miyazaki's movies which are universally loved. If the only Hollywood movies people here talked about were movies like The Godfather, Citizen Kane, Taxi Driver, 2001, Star Wars, Blade Runner, etc, then I wouldn't trash any of them either.

Anyway, I was indeed insecure back them. I felt like something was wrong with me from being so affected by fictional narratives characterized by very stylized art. The reason is that Western culture is prejudiced against Japanese visual culture. Specially the elements of Japanese visual culture that are very non-Western. And nothing is less Western than "brutal moe" stuff like Madoka. The reason is that Western culture places primary value on reproduction of physical realism in art. While the highly stylized look of Japanese visual culture places no value at all in reproducing physical reality. Hence, my Western cultural background was telling my subconscious that such way of expression is inferior. Since I was emotionally affected by it do a very high degree I felt like something was wrong with me. I though in my subconscious without really understanding it: "how can I be so affected by this supposedly inferior means of expression?", "is something wrong with me?"

I understand where this feeling came from and now I think now that heavily stylized images are potentially more effective than realistic images in generating emotional responses for the human mind. It makes sense since you are not constraining yourself to reproducing physical reality but making something that is better at conveying emotions than it. Hence, heavy stylization is natural and it's the West's obsession with physical reality that needs to be explained.

Since I understand now where these feelings of insecurity came from: essentially from my brainwash by the basic Western conceptions of art, which Japan has shown that are highly restrictive, and so I don't feel the insecurity anymore.

Also, I also understand now why I had the desire to make people watch some anime films in the previous HoFs as a way of making myself feel better about my feelings if non-Anime fans could also reproduce these feelings (I knew lots of anime fans that liked the same titles but I though their impressions didn't count because they were not "normal" ). I also though live action movie fans, being supposedly accustomed to greater diversity in movies than the general population, would be more open minded to different senses of aesthetics, but I was wrong. In some ways experienced watchers of certain genres of movies tends to dig in deeper in those genres and be less open minded about different stuff from what they regularly watch. Anyway, I don't feel this desire anymore because I am not insecure anymore as I finally understand that there is nothing wrong in not being a slave of one's cultural background.

And if other people cannot enjoy the stuff I can enjoy that makes them worse off and not me.

It is indeed a problem that English speaking people have that they are scared of consuming non-English speaking culture, they feel intimidated but it. But by restricting themselves to the cultural output of only a small fraction of the world's population they only make themselves worse-off as a result.

I certainly would be much worse off if I only knew Hollywood movies and English language TV, since these are only about 1/3 of my favorite media products (although, that;s still a higher proportion than most Brazilians). Well, in the end it's their loss not mine.

I think that some English speaking people feel the need to attack Hollywood/US media because the fact that almost everybody who is English speaking only talks about and watches Hollywood's stuff and they ignore everything else. Naturally one feels the need to "correct" that. Although many times the way people articulate their feelings backfire as the people who restrict their media consumption many times feel insulted by these "social justice movie warriors."

I don't think that's offensive. It's a correct statement. Most of us (people in general) are stupendously ignorant.

There's a lot of truth to many of the points Guap is making. Most people are incurious creatures that prefer to live inside the safe bubble they've always known, as a voluntary slave of their biases and prejudices.

He just doesn't realize that he's also one of those creatures, in his own way. Just like I am in my own way and others are in theirs.

The most ignorant person is he who thinks of himself as the only one who's not ignorant.

And I'm sorry, but I also agree with him that people who think they are not ignorant are truly ignorant. If I said 'I am never ignorant' I really hope I would realise that that belief would make me a totalignoramous.

Hey Guap, just curious - how do you feel about the whole kneeling during the national anthem controversy?
I ask because you've been outspoken in the past on the topics of nationalism & culture and such.
It would be interesting to get your more objective POV.

Full of school girls getting gang raped then going vigilante, making the gang rapists sht in each othber's mouths then shoving it in the other guy's mouth along with his sliced off best frie nd. No one linked an eye yet if there was pubic hair men wou'd start screamin g and women would start passing out.

I think one person has the full right to not agree with their government's policies

I see so the meaning you ascribed to it was different than what you wrote.

Because what you wrote was technically an insult.

Also, I would't characterize calling me to be among the most ignorant biased and prejudiced of persons as being "a tiny critical" of my person.

I'm not siding with anyone, but I just wanted to say something. Well for one thing exaggeration is a valid form of speech. Also, whether something is an insult or not depends on intent. Just because you find something insulting doesn't mean it was necessarily intended to be. He said he wasn't intending it as an insult, though he was criticising you. You can't argue with someone and say that their criticism is an insult after they clearly express that it wasn't the way they meant it.