The MoFos Top 100 of the 90s Countdown - Redux

Wow genuinely surprised that Raise the Red Lantern made the list this high. And while it's a good movie, although I haven't seen it for a long time, I gotta do it right?


I had The Player at #22. I liked it so much I even read the book! Speaking of insider Hollywood, I'm liking The Studio. Check it out. The episode The Oner is pretty cool. Gotta love a good oner.

1. Close-Up (1990)
8. JFK (1991)
12. A Moment of Innocence (1996)
17. The Thin Red Line (1998)
18. Apollo 13 (1995)
20. Sonatine (1993)
22. The Player (1992)
23. Three Colors: Blue (1993)

Also what the heck that other forum copying our countdown idea. Watch they'll do a sports one next too.

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My ballot so far...

1. My top pick may show, but if it does, it had better show soon, as I can't imagine a lot of people will be voting for it. I know it does have a couple of fans on this message board, but it's going to take more than my 25 points to get it to appear. If I had to put money on it, at this point, I'd say it won't show.

2. This film is a lock. I hope it will make the top 10, but I'd bet money it will place in the top 20s.

3. If this film makes the list at this point, Hell will freeze over, pigs will fly, and I'll pay for tickets for a showing of Hamilton

4. Raise the Red Lantern

5. Not likely. I figured it would show in the top 90's or top 80's, but not this far up the list.

6. A lock to make the list, hopefully a top 10, but likely a top 20s

7. Another lock and I think this film WILL be in the top 10.

8. This film will make the list and will likely show very VERY soon

9. Zero chance.


10. Dead Man

11. A lock, probably in the top 30's

12. Another lock, probably in the top 40's and will show very soon.

13. Zero chance at this point, if it was going to show it would have shown in the 90's or 80's


14. Glengarry Glenn Ross

15. Will probably show up soon, but there's a possibility it might not make the list, but I'd be shocked if it didn't.

16. Should make the list and show up very soon, another film that would be a shock, but a possibility to not make the list.


17. A Perfect World

18. Probably would have shown up at this point. I know a couple people, like me, are big fans of this criminally underrated film.


19. Close-Up

20. Zero chance.

21. Very small chance to make this list. I'd bet against it showing at this point.

22. If this one is going to show, it had better show soon. I think it will make it somehow.

23. A lock and possibly top 10

24. Could show up still, but I'd bet against it showing at this point.


25. Beauty and the Beast

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Can't say I was a particularly big fan of Hero. He was still visually interesting, but he seemed to just stop doing movies that seemed to portray people acting like human beings, which I guess is just me saying, I wish he didn't stop making dramas.

Oh, the other films:

The Thin Red Line: Mallick seemed to operate in a different voice over mode in his recent phase compared to his earlier two films. I preferred his earlier two films, which I think is fairly conventional. However, I still liked his newer films (well, I never got into The Tree of Life, and admittedly stopped after To the Wonder, since all the critics started to get more and more negative on his subsequent films). Still, I think The Thin Red Line is pretty great. It worked for me.
(EDIT) - Forgot to say, #21 on my ballot.

Cure - I heard about Pulse forever, but somehow completely never heard of this one until a two or three years ago. It's pretty solid and was in consideration for my ballot. Glad it made it. I can't remember if it was immediately after seeing this one or his other one about the guy breeding the poisonous jellyfish later on that I realized, "oh, yeah, late 90s... this is directly thinking about the Tokyo subway sarin cult attack... Which made it all a lot more dark. Somehow I also found out googling after the jellyfish movie that Murakami's 19Q4 was also influenced by that. Crazy realizing roughly 30 years after international news you haven't thought about in nearly as long, some media you're consuming was talking about how it really ****ed with their heads and not immediately realizing it.

The Player - was on my shortlist/consideration for my ballot, but ultimately cut it. Like Barton Fink, I enjoy a movie that pokes fun at young mean who think they know the inner depths of the human soul and can express it as art, because they know in real life.... people.... die.... Though, Barton having that as its primary character has a much more complex relation with such an individual.

Well, at mid-point, it's like this with me:

My list:
#18 The Fifth Element list proper #56
#25 Apollo 13 list proper #68

Not doing too hot. Here's hoping the downhill run to the finale will be more productive.

The Player is one Altman I haven't seen and the trailer and previews of it never changed that. However, thanks to @Holden Pike and his Altman profiles and interviews, I am more than intrigued to give it a try. The video about his style brought out one thing I find irritating about certain movies of his---the zoom. A few of his movies annoyed me to no end with what I thought were totally unecessary zooms...like in Brewster McCloud, one of his films I liked, we see Shelly Duvall vomiting over a railing in the Astrodome, then a man walks up right after and they suddenly kiss (yuck, vomit!) and instead of just leaving the camera on that image, Altman zooms in on their kiss as if to tell the ignorant masses, "Look, they're kissing right after she puked!" I saw a few zooms in the trailer I saw for The Player and I wasn't interested, thinking he's doing the same thing. But Holden's videos helped me out a bit, especially when they covered Nashville (another Altman I liked) and explained Altman's reasoning for some of his zooms. Okay, I got that and respected it. So, my reasoning for being wiliing to give The Player a shot. Haven't seen it obviously but looking forward to it now.

I did see Raise the Red Lantern on cable way back when. And I loved it. Gong Li being in it certainly helps! But the cinematography is beyond beautiful and it's a totally engrossing movie. But have you ever loved a movie and then totally forgot you've seen it? That's what happened here. I can't believe that I forgot this existed. Now I want to see it again. Super film.

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