Protests in Washington
One person was shot and killed by the authorities, three others died at and around the event due to things like heart attacks.
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One person was shot and killed by the authorities, three others died at and around the event due to things like heart attacks.
Wow... I wonder if the event exclusively caused the heart attack, or if they already had problems.
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They haven't released details yet, but yes the other three people who died likely had underlying health conditions that were exacerbated by the intensity of the events.
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I just read there were a couple of pipe bombs found and a newly elected Republican lawmaker was amongst the rioters wearing a motorcycle helmet!
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They found explosive devices at both the RNC and the DNC, apparently. Waiting for full confirmation on that, though.
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Haven't read the thread and haven't really followed the story. It doesn't matter what side you're on, people have been out of control for months and all of it is wrong.
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I don’t mean to belittle or be insensitive to this event at all as everything about it is just awful and my prayers are with people, but it does vaguely remind of this scene for some reason...
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Still too early to know all the details or exactly what happened or why.
But I'm just posing an invitation to speculate (food for thought as it were)...
It was publicized that the proceedings at the capitol would include Republican Congresspeople questioning the election outcome on the House floor (an obvious last-ditch effort to aid Trump or somehow lead to an overturn). Which is what they went on to do last night - if anyone tuned into CSPAN in the wee hours of the morning.
The protest outside yesterday was intended to support the effort of Republicans inside Congress who were determined to question the election.
Why would Trump-supporters want to disrupt such a proceeding or attack Congresspeople (among whom were Republicans there to question the election and call for investigations to secure future election integrity)?
The only people who'd logically feel disrupting such proceedings would benefit their agenda would be anti-Trumpers.
However (my caveat...), when it comes to extremists, we all know there are idiots on all sides who, if they see one person breaking a window or who get caught up in a fervor, will follow, whether their actions make any sense, serve any goal or not.
But I'm just posing an invitation to speculate (food for thought as it were)...
It was publicized that the proceedings at the capitol would include Republican Congresspeople questioning the election outcome on the House floor (an obvious last-ditch effort to aid Trump or somehow lead to an overturn). Which is what they went on to do last night - if anyone tuned into CSPAN in the wee hours of the morning.
The protest outside yesterday was intended to support the effort of Republicans inside Congress who were determined to question the election.
Why would Trump-supporters want to disrupt such a proceeding or attack Congresspeople (among whom were Republicans there to question the election and call for investigations to secure future election integrity)?
The only people who'd logically feel disrupting such proceedings would benefit their agenda would be anti-Trumpers.
However (my caveat...), when it comes to extremists, we all know there are idiots on all sides who, if they see one person breaking a window or who get caught up in a fervor, will follow, whether their actions make any sense, serve any goal or not.
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Their Fearless Leader told them.
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They haven't released details yet, but yes the other three people who died likely had underlying health conditions that were exacerbated by the intensity of the events.
In any case, this is going to have a long wave of repercussions - numerous people will be fired, numerous will serve jail or prison time. The Capital Police Chief just resigned, but it wouldn't surprise me if he faces charges. Trump's officials are dropping like flies - staff are resigning left and right. There will be lengthy investigations and probes. You can bet they will be scouring for any intentional lapse of security. If they discover that, some could face treason level charges. We thought 2020 was bad.........
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Their Fearless Leader told them.
I didn't hear all of Trump's speech yesterday (or much of it at all) so I don't know what he said.
Do you have any quotes that would indicate that he incited the people gathered in D.C. to storm the capitol, to disrupt or threaten the Congress where Republicans had pre-publicized their intent to challenge the election outcome by questioning election integrity, or that Trump had somehow instructed his supporters to break windows to get in, vandalize and do things that would warrant them getting shot and killed by capitol police?
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Knock yourself out. Trump speaks a full hour starting around 2:54:00, telling them he'll march down to the Capitol with them.
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Why would Trump-supporters want to disrupt such a proceeding or attack Congresspeople (among whom were Republicans there to question the election and call for investigations to secure future election integrity)?
The only people who'd logically feel disrupting such proceedings would benefit their agenda would be anti-Trumpers.
The only people who'd logically feel disrupting such proceedings would benefit their agenda would be anti-Trumpers.
The second problem with your conspiracy theory is it was well published before the meeting that the few Republicans planning to object had a near zero chance of succeeding. January 6th was to be a huge win verifying the electoral votes for left/Democrats/Antifa or whatever label you want to use for "anti-Trumpers" and it's a real stretch to think they would sabotage what they have waited for, for so long.
Democrats/left/Antifa or whoever......their number one agenda has been attempting to remove Trump. They impeached him but failed to remove him from office. They bantered 25th amendment but failed to get momentum for that. One failure after another.
And on the one day.....the one all important day Democrats were.....finally......able to overcome failure and make a significant step towards their agenda - that being the all important step of removing Trump with the confirmation of electoral votes.....you believe Democrats just up and decided to sabotage that day? That just makes no sense at all.
Last edited by SFMZone; 01-07-21 at 10:03 PM.
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Just for the record: I didn't present a theory, conspiracy or otherwise.
I simply said that the only people who'd logically feel disrupting such proceedings would benefit their agenda would be anti-Trumpers.
But I also provided the caveat that extremists following any agenda may not act logically.
I simply said that the only people who'd logically feel disrupting such proceedings would benefit their agenda would be anti-Trumpers.
But I also provided the caveat that extremists following any agenda may not act logically.
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