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i would never homeschool my own children unless it was absolutely necessary, but i still don't see why some people around here would criticize someone for doing it. they are their children, not yours, and i think i'd rather see a parent homeschool their child rather than let them run rampant.

when my sister was seventeen and she looked my Mom in the eye and said she was going to have sex with her boyfriend, my Mom didn't try to tell her she couldn't because, i think as most parents know, when it comes to stuff like that, most kids won't listen. so she gave her a condom instead. i don't think this was an irresponsible decision.

however, when i was seventeen and i had a serious boyfriend, my Mom didn't want me to have sex, so i didn't. but i was also a very weird child....=\

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Wow, I just came into this thread pretty late with all the recent debate, but I have to say the biggest problem I have with any of the recent floundering back and forth would be the statement that normal school prepares you for the real world. Sorry, nope. That's the biggest pile of BS in the history of BS. As for homeschool, I can't say. But no, normal school does very little, if not nothing, to prepare you for the real world. Hell, even college doesn't prepare you for the real world. There's only one thing that can prepare you for the real world and that's the real world.

Speaking of sex, I haven't done that yet either...but that's not to say I'm not trying!!

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Austruck, you sound a bit hypocritical here. you got on king's case about making "sweeping statements" and saying that his facts aren't good enough because he only used himself and a handful of his friends as examples instead of using statistics, but you basically did the same thing, using Yoda and "home-schooled children you know" as your example.

Yes, but as you quoted above, I purposely started out with "if you want anecdotal evidence..."

My point was specifically to use the same sort of evidence he did, since that seemed to be the way he wanted to argue. I'm not saying I prefer it.

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Plus, what I took issue with was citing a few personal examples and then drawing broad conclusions based on those.

I may have pointed out personal examples, but I didn't then state that ALL kids act this way or that ALL schools are this way or that. I merely tossed my own examples back his way, since he seemed more easily persuaded by that sort of thing.

i'm just curious, though, what your evidence is, about homeschooling, i mean. you said here

makes it sound like you actually have researched this particular thing, and i'd be interested in hearing about it. i'm not necessarily disputing your argument here, but i don't really know--or i haven't researched it, lets say.

Man! You got to get on that, you're approaching 2 decades of life on planet Earth

Get to it!

ash, I do have stats on things like socializing and homeschooling, but not at my fingertips. (I don't really need them on a daily basis, but it was something that concerned me earlier on so I did look into it. I didn't want a bunch of weird nerdy introverted kids.)

I'll make an effort to re-dig up the stats for homeschooling over the weekend and get them into this thread by Monday. (Sorry, busy weekend -- Yoda and lady friend coming to visit, along with my parents.)

Yes, I totally agree with you on that. The only thing I got out of my years of public schooling was deep psychological scars and a "permanent record" that doesn't mean Jack Crap in the real world. I'd ahve preferred home schooling, to be totally honest.

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You wants stats? Here is one. 80% of high school kids try drugs.


Hey man, i was only trying to be respectful, calm down.


Hey, i'm just debating with you not trying to change your life or anything.

No need to get personal. If you want to discuss education here is a few facts.

I have read in a number of books/magazines how home education can be bad for a kids social development. Sure your kids can spell good and things like that, but acording to my sources home education does help kids socially as they have not had that much social interaction. Normall school helps kids deal with real life problems (eg. bullys) and how to deal with them. But i don't want to debate with you about education because i know our opinions will not change over that.

First off, I'm a woman, not a guy.

Second, please cite a source for the 80% of all high school kids trying drugs. Even if true, this would merely reinforce my reasons for homeschooling, wouldn't it?

Also, please cite sources about the magazines/books about homeschooling and socialization. Because reading someone's OPINION that it might do that is very different from reading an actual study or some harder facts. Be wary of any opinions coming from school teachers, superintendents, anyone involved in the NEA, etc. They would have a good reason to believe that homeschooled kids have something odd about them.

Again, unless it's some sort of study with facts, I'm skeptical.

Just so you know, homeschooled kids do not sit in the house all day. They interact with their peers plenty -- just not in state-run schools. And they interact with "normal" things like bullies and real life. Again, I think you're buying into what would *seem* to be an easy thing to believe unless you had exposure to the movement.

I'll dig up those facts over the weekend, for sure.

I don't want to argue education either. I just know we had the legal right to homeschool our kids, and we chose to do that. FWIW, Yoda did spend a single year in a public school (fifth grade), and after that we gave him the option of staying. He chose to go back to homeschooling.

If you are ever fortunate enough to meet him, I'm positive you'd be impressed with his erudition and poise in social as well as professional situations.

But I digress: The main point here is that I'm a CHICK. LOL

There is this a current affairs show in Australia called To Day Tonight. It is very well respected and always has correct infomation. Since that is true, if you have raised your kids so well, they wouldn't be tempted to try drugs any way.

So i shouldn't beleve experts in the feild that i'm debating with about because they have the same opinions as me? Sorry to say but i think i have tottaly wrecked you there my friend.

Did i say it was ilegal to home school your kids? Its your right.

waaa Yoda is your son?


sorry about that lol.

Could you get your facts right before you start making false statments about me.

First i don't even go to a public school.

You say when you were in school, times have changed since then.

And i don't even live in America!!!!!

First, Daffodil, you're 13, so I'm kind of surprised you still think this way, but look: there's already enough incentive for sex that many people are going to get balling relatively early anyway.

Point taken.

But I'm not sure what you mean by "you're 13, so I'm kind of surprised you still think this way".

That just isn't true. Curiosity and "peer pressure" are two good reasons for a child to try drugs -- children are a product of their environment as much as their parents (nature and nurture). Ultimately, they will have to learn on their own. A parent can only parent so far.

Ok, I deleted the post cause I thought better of it, I should have thought it out more. My bad.

Though i doubt suddenly schools are a haven of enlightenment and live and let live attitudes.

My head hurts.

I have an affliction to speed too. I'm sure my father worries about me and my addiction to street racing. It's bad but speeding is one of the biggest adrenaline rushes ever. I've had my car up to 125 mph. It's a kick in the ass. Nothing beats it...well, maybe doing the business.

If you don't mind me asking, what kind of car? I love cars almost as much as movies.

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Well said. I do agree that peer pressure is a mofo (no pun intended). Teenagers are going to do what they please. When they come to that fork in the road, they'll choose a path. I do agree, people need to learn by experience.

Wait, I just wanted to pick this up even though everyone has moved on. Yeah, it's always best to shield young-adults from things rather than let them make their own decisions. Why let them out the house? They might drink beer before they're allowed to.