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Don't forget 100-year-old George Sanders giving zero s--ts about this project. (his final movie I think?)

I don't disagree with anything you've said here, but it's my duty to point out that one character RISES FROM THE GRAVE ON HIS MOTORCYCLE which is incredibly kick-ass. But yeah, less patient viewers should maybe just find a gif of that moment and move on.
That is unquestionably the moment of the film.



No, no, I didn't think it would be like A Clockwork Orange, I thought it was gonna be more of a Living Dead Biker movie with these ghost-bikers riding around at night with their skull-helmets on and stuff, spooky and violent - I had pictured something like Night Creatures meets Mad Max - but I came away feeling like they were ripping from ACO with the young, British, good-looking, self-indulgent, violence-loving, psychopath gang-leader who still lived at home and terrorized the area in a Youth Gone Wild-themed movie. But it was a really PG one. I mean, just six years later, in Australia, biker gangs would be gang-raping people and burning them alive and shit, not gingerly running over shopping carts.
Yeah, SUCH a wasted premise. Could've been my favorite movie if done right. What's the point in rising from the dead if all you're gonna do is tip over some magazine racks and smack some lady on the butt? Weren't bikers doing that already?

I remember having some fun writing about this one a few years ago but of course that has been lost. This is included on the Folk Horror Vol 2 box set I got a while back so a rewatch is in my future whether I like it or not.
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Yeah, SUCH a wasted premise. Could've been my favorite movie if done right. What's the point in rising from the dead if all you're gonna do is tip over some magazine racks and smack some lady on the butt? Weren't bikers doing that already?

I remember having some fun writing about this one a few years ago but of course that has been lost. This is included on the Folk Horror Vol 2 box set I got a while back so a rewatch is in my future whether I like it or not.
Yeah, I mean, you throw in a frog, it's pretty much Folk Horror.

I remember you writing it up, I'm pretty sure, but it's been too long to remember what you wrote.
I could see liking this actually if it weren't for expectations. I mean, A PG-rated Folk-Horror Clockwork Orange does't really sound that bad.



A very prim and proper groups of droogs. There were so nice so as to have their real-life name tags stitched onto their uniforms for easy identification.



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A very prim and proper groups of droogs. There were so nice so as to have their real-life name tags stitched onto their uniforms for easy identification.
Ha! So true.



You may be thinking, "Wooley, you had... expectations... for this movie?" Well, I had it in my head that this was going to be a lower-budget, more independent, much wilder, edgier, crazier, probably crappier thing, that I would personally have fun with because I like that sort of thing. Dangerous Bikers Returned From The Grave actually sounds cool, it's just... not.
Instead it's a pretty bland, unintentionally silly, very British... I dunno, maybe a Supernatural Thriller or something. But minus the thrills. This was made possibly to spook pearl-clutching British biddies who are afraid that The Youth Has Gone Wild.

Well I'll be Damned, guess I'll just stick with this British bit of Psychomania then.



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Mild-mannered comic-artist John Lansdale's marriage is falling apart but when his dominant hand is severed in an automobile accident things really start to go South. Losing control of his work and his personal life depression and blackouts set in and he leaves his estranged family in New York to take a position at a community-college in California... but is his severed hand avenging the wrongs committed against him and even acting out his subconscious will?
Oscar-winning director Oliver Stone teams up with Oscar-winner Michael Caine and Oscar-winner James Horner and Oscar-winner Stan Winston... to make a Horror movie about a murderous severed hand.


Or is it?
Stone, whose work I actually do not care for, does a marvelous job here as both writer and director, changing perspectives and showing things that may or may not have happened, misdirecting, confounding, and disorienting the audience to coincide with Caine’s deteriorating mental state. Is Caine murdering anyone who he feels betrayed him? Are murders actually occurring at all? If so, is his disembodied hand actually committing them on his behalf? Did The Hand actually jump the red-eye from New York to Sacramento?
This movie wasn't especially well-received on release in '81 and has disappeared into history but, honestly, I think that's a mistake. I don't think audiences and some of the critics I've read understood what they were watching. For one thing, Michael Caine, who openly said he took this role because he wanted to pay for the garage add-on he was building, shows up like freakin' pro, as always. I mean, he goes back and forth between almost meek and possibly crazed with such ease and commitment.


But even more than this, The Hand is a highly competent and fairly cleverly done psychological thriller/horror movie where you're almost never sure what is actually happening until the end and maybe not even then. It's a smaller, quainter film but is well-executed and actually somewhat artful, with a dash of DePalma flair.
I will go so far as to recommend The Hand.



I watched the climax of The Hand through the back window of my car at a drive in, because whatever movie we were facing was boring me. I was maybe five and I just remember this death scene that has been burned into my brain ever since.


I then taped it off of television years later, and never actually watched it.


Then found it on some streaming service (Tubi?) and finally told myself it was time. Except it wasnt and the movie is still a mystery to me.


Except for that one scene that I watched far in the distance, without any sound, and no one in the front of the car paying any attention to what I was doing back there.



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I watched the climax of The Hand through the back window of my car at a drive in, because whatever movie we were facing was boring me. I was maybe five and I just remember this death scene that has been burned into my brain ever since.


I then taped it off of television years later, and never actually watched it.


Then found it on some streaming service (Tubi?) and finally told myself it was time. Except it wasnt and the movie is still a mystery to me.


Except for that one scene that I watched far in the distance, without any sound, and no one in the front of the car paying any attention to what I was doing back there.
That is not far from my experience and why I watched this.
I have long said, when asked, that Friday the 13th Part 2 was the first "grown-up" Horror movie I ever saw (so, given my age, we're excluding old Hammer movies with quaint traditional monsters and Toho kaiju movies and such) when I was 9 years old.
But my whole life I have remembered seeing The Hand as a kid and never again. Well, I just discovered last night that The Hand actually came out a month before F13 2, so...
So, anyway, The Hand may be, probably is, the first "grown-up" Horror Movie I ever saw, when I was 9 years old.



Interesting! It's not a film I feel like I've ever heard discussed.

You could put together quite a playlist of movies about severed hands doing their own thing.



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Interesting! It's not a film I feel like I've ever heard discussed.

You could put together quite a playlist of movies about severed hands doing their own thing.
Yes, and I think this got dismissed as another Hands Of Orlac re-do but, while I have not seen that film, I am familiar with the plot from Mad Love which is apparently an actual HoO adaptation, and they are not the same idea.
I liked this movie, not a masterpiece or anything, but I liked it but I don't really wanna say why because there's a certain amount of mystery to it that I don't want to spoil



Yes, and I think this got dismissed as another Hands Of Orlac re-do but, while I have not seen that film, I am familiar with the plot from Mad Love which is apparently an actual HoO adaptation, and they are not the same idea.
Hands of Orloc is really excellent and you should definitely check it out at some point. The visuals are incredible.



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Hands of Orloc is really excellent and you should definitely check it out at some point. The visuals are incredible.
Yeah, I didn't realize it had Conrad Veidt, Ima look into it.



Yeah, I didn't realize it had Conrad Veidt, Ima look into it.
Even with its solid reputation, I was pretty blown away by it. An early sequence involving a train crash is just really haunting.

In fact, the whole movie does a great job of balancing "supernatural" horror with "life is cruel" horror.



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Even with its solid reputation, I was pretty blown away by it. An early sequence involving a train crash is just really haunting.

In fact, the whole movie does a great job of balancing "supernatural" horror with "life is cruel" horror.
Well, that sounds way less fun than Mad Love which is just wonderfully bonkers.

WARNING: "wink" spoilers below
It does sound good though.



I wanna see somebody make a list or a video entitled: Halfway to Halfway to Halloween, right after Halloween. That's hardcore. :P



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In 1984, a young woman who suffers from terrible nightmares is stalked by a killer with a badly burned face and a desire for revenge. She goes to a dream lab where, after talking about the science of dreams and REM sleep, she is hooked up to machines while dreaming. The killer stalks and kills her friends, including dragging one of them off-camera by the ankles and there's a chase in a boiler room.
Ah. So The Initiation is just a ripoff of A Nightmare On Elm Street. Guess I should have known. End of review.



Not so fast!
The Initiation was released, including runs in California where Wes Craven lived at the time, two months before shooting on A Nightmare On Elm Street began. What were you stealing, Wes?
Of course, all of this could, I guess, be coincidence, but man...


It's pretty much even the same makeup just not as much, give the man some "fingerknives" and... I mean, the young woman with nightmares that tie into the murderer, the dream lab and all the dream talk (some of which is almost the exact same language as the same scene in ANoES), the burned killer from the nightmare specifically targeting the dreamer and working his way through her friends to her, the boiler room, we see the killer pick up a supine female victim's ankles and drag her off camera... I mean, that is a shot I have only ever seen in one other movie in my life and that movie started filming like 50-60 days after this opened.
Might just be an odd coincidence but man it's sure hard to believe it.

Why am I focusing on this instead of the movie?
Easy, because the movie is bad. Really bad.
Really bad dialogue, pretty bad characters, and you really can tell when they switched directors as the scenes at the asylum had me thinking, “Well, this does have a certain low-budget flair,” and then it just became really bland and pedestrian. The first guy seemed to have some imagination and the second guy just seemed to be directing a TV episode.
The idea was "an inexpensive slasher that takes place in a shopping mall" per wikipedia, and the writer whipped this out. And it shows. It's really just an excuse for the killer to have a lot of different random weapons because that was the original Friday the 13th formula. But, like, really, if you’re a killer and you already have a big knife, why would you then go find and use a hatchet? And then if you have a knife and a hatchet why would you use a f*cking bow and arrow? From like ten feet away? And then if you have a knife and a hatchet and a bow and arrow... now you’re gonna use a speargun? A SPEARGUN?! Because that's what they did in F13? Though I have to say, what a mall!
It doesn't help that the acting is pretty atrocious here and even Daphne Zuniga, whose job it is to carry this movie, falls dreadfully flat when it counts.



Yes, you, you're not good.
Ultimately, I will give the movie that it's final reveal, while somewhat expected, is not a bad idea but then Zuniga just isn't a good enough actress to carry it, honestly. It requires her to be better and she's just not.
I gotta be honest, I would call this almost a complete waste of time. Now that neither The Prowler nor Prom Night are my Worst Slasher Ever I’ve been lost.
Thank god The Initiation found me.


PS - I just had to share this bit that's a good example of how bad the script actually is. I guess it was an attempt to develop one of the peripheral characters but first of all why and second of all why this?
WARNING: "Maybe not spoiler-tag worthy but sheesh." spoilers below
Late in the film one girl decides to tell everyone the reason everyone thinks she’s a virgin. It's because she hasn’t had sex since she was raped when she was 12 years old.
Ok, that's heavy, this movie took a turn. But it turns back when one of the guys she told, who's been trying to sleep with her throughout the movie, immediately hits on her, you know, to cheer her up. And she says it does cheer her up and so naturally they have sex immediately… which apparently saves her from her trauma and now she's gonna be happy, yay! Except that he is then immediately murdered in her arms (with the aforementioned speargun) so the only two times she has sex in her life she wass raped and her positive partner was murdered. And then her friend tells her not to think about it. Thank god for her she is promptly murdered.
And just because we were so good at this stuff in the 80s, here is the rape-victim going to a costume party with the guy who eventually saves her with sex dressed as...


... a giant penis. Yay, 80s!




THE INITIATION (1984)


I'll start with my obligatory "I'm not a slasher guy" caveat.

I don't think I've heard many people talk about this one but I didn't hate it. Definitely middle-tier and I wouldn't call this a strong recommendation but those of you who are willing to watch every slasher ever made should find this enjoyable, I'd think. But again, I'm not a slasher guy. I never know what you people are gonna like or hate.

Some sorority pledges are given an initiation task, which is to break into a department store overnight and commit some minor theft. Of course some of the local bros crash the party too. Sex and killings ensue. Also, this happens -

 




But yeah, it's not groundbreaking and it contains at least two of the most eye-rollingly unnecessary boob shots, but I found the characters likable at least and the reveal of the killer's identity managed to surprise me. The setting of the empty department store makes for some nice atmosphere as well. Credits say "Introducing Daphne Zuniga" so this is one of her first roles and she makes for an appealing heroine.

So does nobody talk about this because you haven't seen it, or because you have seen it and it's not worth talking about?
Found my write-up from '21 and it seems we're mostly in agreement, even if I was slightly more lenient.
I should also add that I'm not at all a Freddie expert so I didn't even pick up on all the rip-offs.



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It's an interesting thing because the music in A Nightmare On Elm Street is startlingly similar to some of the music from Cat People ('42) and there's no credit there or any mention of it. I don't really consider it like Wes Craven's a thief or anything, it's like music, you borrow and incorporate ideas, but it's just something to note. I can say he definitely saw this movie and used some of its ideas in his film but there sure are some strong similarities.