The MoFo Top 100 Sci-Fi Films: Countdown [Archive] - Page 6

mark f

03-12-17, 04:24 PM

Neither made my list, but Interstellar was a lot closer. I don't get the love for Primer or Carruth in general, although I liked Upstream Color better. I jotted down a few thoughts about Primer here.

Primer (Shane Carruth, 2004) 2
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I've watched this film twice now, and although it has plenty of fans, I just don't seem to be one of them. It's an intellectual puzzle about time travel which was shot for $7,000, yet it won a major Award at the Sundance Film Festival. There are four central characters, all friends who have formed their own business and are also working on a machine for time travel to be able to make some big money by going ahead in time and learning the results of major events so they can return and lay some big bets to become rich quickly. This is essentially their motivation, although the majority of the film's dialogue involves a form of pseudo-techspeak, and especially in the second half, wondering aloud why something occurred and who may have been responsible. Yes, the premise of making a sci-fi home movie without F/X is laudable, but it's replaced with what seems to be an intentionally-obscure plot involving unsympathetic cyphers who, when they begin to try to tackle ethical questions, just come off as pretentious a-holes. Sorry, if you like the film, but it's just too dry and uninvolving for me.
My List
3. The Incredibles (#98)
12. The Iron Giant (#50)
13. Altered States (#95)
14. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (#79)
16. Return of the Jedi (#47)

Seen: 58/58
OFCS's Top 100 Sci-Fi Films (2010 edition): 24/58

JayDee

03-12-17, 05:38 PM

I haven't seen either.

Way-hay! There's the catchphrase again. There's got to be a drinking game in this surely? :p

Anyway I'm not a fan of either of today's films. Primer I actually watched just a couple of months back, inspired by the countdown to finally give it a shot. I admire them for trying to make a sci-fi film for $7000. However for me it showed more than anything why you shouldn't really try to make a sci-fi film for $7000! Such a minimal budget ensures the film really has to be heavy on dialogue with little scope for anything else of visual interest. Between the abundance of tech-speak and the serpentine plot I just found it all rather flat and insipid. I wouldn't go as far as to say it was as exciting as watching paint dry, but it wasn't a million miles off.

Also wasn't particularly taken with Interstellar. It did look great and I'll admit that it did 'feel' pretty epic but it just didn't do a great deal for me. And I hated the ending. Unlike Primer I'd be willing to give it another chance however.

Seen - 48 / 58

My List
2. The Truman Show (#94)
12. Men in Black (#61)
14. Demolition Man (#68)
16. They Live (#45)
17. Guardians of the Galaxy (#77)
20. Galaxy Quest (#88)
22. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (#58)
25. Gattaca (#51)

TokeZa

03-12-17, 05:40 PM

Primer is pretty meh but passable. I rate it 2.5

I despise Interstellar and everything it stands for 0.5

Worst set so far imo.

Sunomis

03-12-17, 05:53 PM

I absolutely love Primer, and I'm happy it made the list.

I found it very clever that they were not using the jargon to justify the hard-sci-fi, but rather to emulate how out of their depth the characters were. And so the whole movie plays like a puzzle, and actually trusts his audience to play with it, instead of giving all the answers on a plate.

There is not one sci-fi movie that I like better than that one, so I put it at sweet spot #1 :cool:

Upton

03-12-17, 05:56 PM

I despise Interstellar and everything it stands for rating_0_5

What does it stand for?

The Gunslinger45

03-12-17, 06:15 PM

I have seen They Live, 56 Body Snatchers, and Interstellar but voted for neither. I have not seen Primer.

They Live is a great movie with one of the best fist fights ever and Roddy Piper in an awesome action role.

I saw Body Snatchers when I was a kid and thought it was great.

Interstellar I thought was very visually captivating, but everything else was meh.

4. The Avengers (2012)
15. Return of the Jedi (1983)
17. Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
20. Escape from New York (1981)

My List: 3
Seen: 40/58

Harry Lime

03-12-17, 07:04 PM

Nice pair.

Primer (Budget $7,000)

Interstellar (Budget $165 million)

There you go, kids. All you need is a few thousand dollars, an idea, and the will to make it happen, and you too could have a movie next to a $165 million blockbuster on a Mofo Countdown!

gandalf26

03-12-17, 07:08 PM

Love Interstellar, very ambitious and I'm not sure it quite pulls off the mind boggling ending. I think the "docking scene" is the film scene of the millennium so far, the organ music and ticking clock, the fate of humanity riding on one impoosible manoeuvre had me literally not breathing in the cinema, incredible scene. Other incredible moments later on like the father/daughter reunion. Visually too like others have said it has wonderful moments although I thought the film Gravity released around the same time captured Space more beautifully than any film before or since.

Primer I remember watching after midnight on TV and the intro said it was this cult classic so I had to watch, perhaps due to the late hour I found it very tough to follow and wasn't very impressed, I'm not even sure I finished it before falling asleep, astonished to see it this high, but kudos aswell for making a renowned film for $7k.

Miss Vicky

Miss Vicky re Dark City, touche my dear, touche. However I was aware that Dark City was out around a year before the Matrix but that wont matter to those comparing the two, also take away the Kung Fu and slow mo and the Matrix is still a way better film in my opinion, at least there is a reason for slow mo within the story of the film as opposed to terrible slow mo imitations released in the years after, like say Bulletproof Monk or Wanted.

Iroquois

03-12-17, 11:12 PM

Primer is a respectable choice and seeing it pop up relatively high is a pleasant surprise.

Interstellar, on the other hand, is neither pleasant or a surprise.

77topaz

03-12-17, 11:32 PM

Interstellar was #5 on my list, while Dark City narrowly missed out on it. There's still a couple of uncertain films on my list that I hope will show up soon... :eek:

My list so far, with predictions:
1. Top 5
2. Top 10
3. Contact (#49)
4. Top 20
5. Interstellar (#43)
6. Top 50
7. Will probably make it, but may not
8. Top 50
9. Top 50
10. Top 50
11. Avatar (#80)
12. Top 5
13. Top 10
14. Will probably make it, but may not
15. Dune (#99)
16. Top 50
17. Probably won't make it
18. Probably won't make it
19. Top 20
20. May or may not make it
21. Top 50
22. Gattaca (#51)
23. Serenity (#59)
24. Strange Days (#81)
25. Earthbound (one-pointer)

TheUsualSuspect

03-12-17, 11:39 PM

Primer - did not make my list. I enjoyed it for the fact that it was basically a one man show shot on an extremely low budget. It has gained this ungodly like cult following since then, does it deserve it? I'm not so sure. Decent enough, but the audio on the film is utter garbage. So bad that it distracts from the experience.

Interstellar - #20 I'm a big Nolan fan and watching this in IMax was a real treat. Visually enthralling, emotional depth to characters and just enough mind boggling science to make you want to go back and experience it again. While not my favourite Nolan film (nowhere close to be exact) I applaud the ambition here and believe it does deserve a spot on this list.

I honestly expect every single one of my movies to make this list and would be shocked if any one of them is left off.

My List:

#1: Dark City
#7: Minority Report
#9: District 9
#16: Ghostbusters
#17: Avatar
#19: Serenity
#20: Interstellar
#21: Donnie Darko
#25: Edge of Tomorrow

NedStark09

03-12-17, 11:56 PM

Interesteller whole concept remind me of something i just cannot think if its one movie or several different movies. The movie while visionary amazing just seemed too complicated by movies end. Martian was slow paced but i enjoyed it much more.

Holden Pike

03-13-17, 02:28 AM

The original Don Siegel Invasion of the Body Snatchers is the fifth from my list to make the countdown. I had it as my #13 pick, three spots above the Phil Kaufman '78 remake. Here is my bi-annual plug for my thread devoted to the subgenre of alien body snatching (clicky HERE (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=11323)).

MY LIST:
13. Invasion of the Body Snatchers, 1956 (#46)
16. Invasion of the Body Snatchers, 1978 (#58)
18. The Hidden (#82)
20. Ghostbusters (#57)
23. Guardians of the Galaxy (#77)
25. Safety Not Guaranteed (DNP)

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gbgoodies

03-13-17, 02:48 AM

I watched Primer a while back when a few people here were talking about it, and I think I liked it, but it was so confusing that I'm not really sure. I still have it on my watchlist to rewatch it at a later date. I hope that I'll understand it more the second time I see it.

I liked Interstellar, and I considered it for my list, but it just didn't make the cut.

Seen: 47-1/2 out of 58
My list: 4 so far

13) The Avengers (2012)
16) Source Code (2011)
21) Wreck-It Ralph (2012)
23) Galaxy Quest (1999)

dadgumblah

03-13-17, 07:56 AM

Have yet to see Interstellar but definitely will some day. Sad to say I've never even heard of Primer. That's what I love about this site and these countdowns---finding out about movies that I may otherwise never be aware of. Anyway, neither made my list.

List so far:
#8 Invasion of the Body Snatchers .46
#18 The War of the Worlds .90
#20 The Time Machine .69
#23 Logan's Run .71

TheUsualSuspect

03-13-17, 08:00 AM

I hope that I'll understand it more the second time I see it.

:nope:

The Rodent

03-13-17, 08:02 AM

Have yet to see Interstellar

You won't go wrong tbh.
I blind bought it after hearing good things, and glad to have it on the shelf as well.

Just be ready for an ending that can confuse... I got it first time, but some people I've seen on t'web were baffled by the first part of act 3.

Nope1172

03-13-17, 08:05 AM

42
Back to the Future Part II
(1989, Robert Zemeckis)
https://www.movieforums.com/images/lists/scifi/77Bd6DP.jpg
122 Points, 9 Lists

Nope1172

03-13-17, 08:05 AM

41
Gravity
(2013, Alfonso Cuarón)
https://www.movieforums.com/images/lists/scifi/I0kwdPa.jpg
124 Points, 11 Lists

Nope1172

03-13-17, 08:05 AM

The Stats

Back to the Future Part II
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Wasn't tied with anything.

Layout: 3rd, 8th (x3), 10th, 13th, 18th, 20th, 24th

Gravity
https://www.movieforums.com/images/lists/scifi/giphy.gif
Also wasn't tied with anything.

Layout: 3rd, 8th, 9th (x2), 14th, 18th (x2), 20th (x3), 23rd

Iroquois

03-13-17, 08:08 AM

lol @ the idea that Interstellar is baffling or hard to understand even after two viewings, especially when Primer is right frickin' there

Anyway, BTTF II is a good soft sci-fi adventure, whereas Gravity is a decent cinematic experience that I admittedly haven't felt too compelled to revisit.

The Rodent

03-13-17, 08:10 AM

2 5 Popcorn movies right there...

Gravity was on my shortlist. I was so uncomfortable watching that. Affective, and effective movie.
I felt it was a bit dicky though when it became a "if something can go wrong, it will go wrong" sort of movie.

BTTF2 is just legendary.

Both extremely worthy, but either made my final list though.

I think the major thing that affected me in Gravity though, was that Bullock's face was paralysed by all the surgery and her fake boobs were omnipresent.
I didn't think collagen and silicone were allowed in space.

Camo

03-13-17, 08:11 AM

You have BTTF II listed as BTTF III in the stats part by the way. Fun film, don't like it anywhere near as much as the original though. Don't like Gravity, the only Cuaron film i like is Y Tu Mama Tambien.

TheUsualSuspect

03-13-17, 08:15 AM

Gravity was a decent theatre watch, not something I am rushing to go back and see. Didn't make my list.

Back to the Future II - It is a toss up as to which BTTF film I prefer more, this one or the original. I simply love them both. They are both memorable in their own right and offer something unique. The sequel is so ingrained in our pop culture minds that when you say hoverboard or self-tying shoes, they know exactly what you're talking about. It's fun to revisit this with Thomas F. Wilson basically playing Donald Trump for Biff when he takes over in the 'darkest timeline'.

BUT - for the same reasons that I left off Return of the Jedi, despite my personal bias for this film, I believe the original holds more weight in the genre of sci/fi and I did not want to have more than one film represent a single series.

Nope1172

03-13-17, 08:15 AM

You have BTTF II listed as BTTF III in the stats part by the way.
My bad, fixed it.

CosmicRunaway

03-13-17, 08:16 AM

Two more films I've seen, but I didn't vote for either. Back to the Future Part II was on my shortlist, but it didn't make the final cut. I never did decide which I liked more, Part II or the first film, and I probably should've rewatched them for the Countdown, but I didn't think of it at the time.

I didn't see Gravity when it was in theatres, so I didn't get the whole IMAX cinematic experience. My room mate, who did see it in theatres, thinks that it's a film that should only be experienced there, and that it should be brought back every year or so for people to see "properly". I just thought it was okay, so if given the chance, I'm not sure if I'd bother to see it on the big screen. Maybe if it was really cheap.

Seen: 49/60
My List: 8

01. Dredd (2012) - #96
02. Edge of Tomorrow (2014) - #66
04. The Martian (2015) - #60
...
09. Galaxy Quest (1999) - #88
11. Dark City (1998)
16. Videodrome (1983) - #53
...
22. Strange Days (1995) - #81
25. Primer (2004) - #44

honeykid

03-13-17, 09:36 AM

A few more since my last visit and they're all from the top of my list.

Starship Troopers was my #2. If you're looking for a campy, OTT popcorn movie, then this should be on your shortlist When this came out, I remember it being derided as 'Beverly Hills 90210 in space'... Like that's a bad thing? That's how you get me to see a film. Throw in Dina Meyer (who actually was in 90210), Denise Richards and put Verhoeven in the directors chair and it really is to my eternal shame that I wasn't first in line to see this. My only excuse was that I was young and spent a lot more time watching serious films... Idiot.

Invasion Of The Body Snatchers was my #5 film. I'm one of those civilised people who knows that this is the superior version, so I'm pleased to see that the site has lots of civilised people voting correctly. :p:D As for the film, more than anything else about it I just really like watching it. I've not been able to get the atmosphere of the 70's remake, but here it works well for me.

Lastly, and I say that advisedly, there's They Live. My #7 and a film which is a lot more fun than it should be and I'm still not really sure why. I relate to what TUS said about the real/fake feeling of the film and Piper's performance, but it all just works for me really well. Unlike some of the others who voted for this, it isn't nostalgia for me. I was seriously underwhelmed when I first saw this. It was OK, but it didn't excite me at all and it felt kind of slow. Or, maybe, just badly paced. But whatever that was disappeared for me over time and it became a firm favourite.

gandalf26

03-13-17, 09:41 AM

Gravity doesn't have loads of rewatch factor but it is an amazing disaster movie, and like I said in an earlier post it shoots Space more beautifully than any film before or since.

3D is 90% + of the time a pure gimmick that anyone with a brain doesn't go for, BUT in Gravity 3D finds it's glory, amazing cinema experience, solid film but a fantastic visual experience in the cinema. You literally feel like you at in Space with them, especially during the opening 20-30 minutes.

Elessar

03-13-17, 10:02 AM

For me both Gravity and Interstellar are experience movies - the scripts are nonsense but they should be watched on big screen. Even more so for Interstellar, which I heard used real galaxy simulation from science computers, or st like that. But the whiny daughter got to me the 1st time I watched Interstellar and I can't fathom watching her for the 2nd time. Imagine if all astronauts' daughters are like that: we wouldn't even have had Neil Armstrong to begin with.

NedStark09

03-13-17, 10:03 AM

I have really no opinion since have not seen either movie as of yet. Iv only seen back too the future 1 and i didnt remember liking it. Maybe its because I hated Micheal J Fox TV show when he was a kid or younger before it. Im terrible with names so cant recall the name of the show. Gravity i may check out some day because do like Sandy.

Cobpyth

03-13-17, 10:09 AM

Gravity was my #8. It's admittedly a bit high as I've only seen it in the theater once and I think it probably wouldn't hold up that well when I'd rewatch it, but that one theatrical experience was truly masterful and intense for me.

Chypmunk

03-13-17, 10:26 AM

I know I saw BTTF II back in the day and I seem to remember it being ok but tbh it's not a franchise that ever hugely resonated with me so was never in contention for my list. On the other hand I loved Gravity and it's beautiful depiction of space even if the story is somewhat hackneyed and that one certainly did get a vote from me.

Faildictions:
40. A Clockwork Orange (1971)
39. The Day The Earth Caught Fire (1961)

Sedai

03-13-17, 10:34 AM

I liked Interstellar more than most, but I can see why people dislike it. I liked Gravity, but haven't gone back for a re-watch as of yet. I don't think BTTF II is anywhere near as good as the first film. I enjoy the fact that it sort of riffs on It's a Wonderful Life, and the additional layers of time travel with the letter are a cool idea, but the fake Crispin Glover and too much Biff sort of tank the film for me a bit.

Sexy Celebrity

03-13-17, 10:47 AM

Miss Vicky

03-13-17, 11:04 AM

I haven't seen Back to the Future II in ages but I remember liking it as a kid. Didn't even consider voting for it though.

Gravity was beautiful but boring AF.

Sexy Celebrity

03-13-17, 11:05 AM

Gravity doesn't have loads of rewatch factor but it is an amazing disaster movie, and like I said in an earlier post it shoots Space more beautifully than any film before or since.

On the other hand I loved Gravity and it's beautiful depiction of space

Gravity was beautiful

And this is another reason Gravity sucks -- the movie deals with people floating around outer space helplessly, and people think it's beautiful.

Now I have not been to outer space, I can't tell you what it's exactly like.... but when I look at most pictures of outer space, I personally feel terrified. Like, outer space is the kind of territory John Carpenter should be dealing with. Gravity should have been his movie. Space is not really pretty. Space is an endless black void where either lots of scary things happen, or nothing is happening. Space is the graveyard forever in front of our faces.

This idea that Sandra Bullock and George Clooney are floating around helplessly in beautiful outer space..... there's just so much wrong there with me. Would someone please go back and remake this film correctly? Gravity should be one of the scariest movies of all time. Instead, people think it's beautiful. You should be ashamed of yourself if you like this movie.

rauldc14

03-13-17, 11:11 AM

Interstellar is pretty solid.

Gravity is excellent.

Back to the Future 2 is pretty good. Obviously prefer the original, but it's still a respectable sequel.

Miss Vicky

03-13-17, 11:11 AM

Sexy Celebrity People are allowed to have opinions that don't match yours. You know that, right?

Sexy Celebrity

03-13-17, 11:20 AM

@Sexy Celebrity (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=722) People are allowed to have opinions that don't match yours. You know that, right?

Excuse me, Miss Bitch, but if other people can say anything they want, umm.... so can I. Duh.

Miss Vicky

03-13-17, 11:22 AM

Other people aren't saying "You should be ashamed of yourself if you like this movie."

I hated Gravity, BTW.

Sexy Celebrity

03-13-17, 11:24 AM

Other people aren't saying "You should be ashamed of yourself if you like this movie."

That's because other people are getting their mouths duct taped shut by fascists like you.

Miss Vicky

03-13-17, 11:26 AM

That's because other people are getting their mouths duck taped shut by fascists like you.

Yes, I'm such a fascist. :rolleyes:

Also it's duct tape.

cricket

03-13-17, 11:31 AM

Not a fan of Gravity or Back to the Future II, but it's been many years since I've seen the latter and I would try it again.

Little Devil

03-13-17, 11:34 AM

I agree with SC when it comes to the whole concept of a movie such as Gravity. In terms of effects is stunning, but if the idea was for the audience to feel the dread of being stranded in space, it fell very short. There were way too many things happening that distracted me from that fear; one of them being how she was able to do all the technical stuff when she [apparently] had no training on those things [I could be wrong, I only saw it once].

There are a couple of movies that were able to provide that fear/apprehension a lot better in a "no hope for the character" kind of way: 2001, 2010, Sunshine, Mission to Mars..

honeykid

03-13-17, 11:59 AM

Gravity was meant to be scary? I completely missed that. Maybe because it was a poor cinema experience. I think I'll prefer the film in 2D.

JayDee

03-13-17, 12:09 PM

Another film from my list! Actually the 2nd highest film to appear so far.

When I was a young whippersnapper Back to the Future Part II was actually the black sheep of the trilogy for me. Its complex narrative and the darker streak at its heart meant that I just didn't find it to be as fun an experience as either of the other films. The older I got however the more I loved it. My appreciation for the film has continually grown with every passing year and every viewing. I now think it's one of the bolder and ballsier sequels that Hollywood has produced.

The most common complaint levelled against most sequels is that they are merely a rehash of the original film. Now instead of trying to avoid such an issue the film actively embraces it; it literally goes back and rehashes the same material as the first film. Through a mixture of re-using footage from the first film, and reshooting scenes from new angles, this film actually goes back into the first film and proceeds to tinker with it. A number of the first film's most classic moments are revisited; George decking Biff and Marty's performance of “Johnny Be Good” for example, and are now presented from either a new perspective or with a new storytelling wrinkle to them. Aside from being very smartly executed it's an ambitious and brave choice that could so easily have gone very wrong, but which actually turns out to be the film's high point. The frenetic to and fro, and countless near misses, guarantee that the film's third act makes for a thrilling finish; it's certainly one that keeps you on your feet and your brain switched on just to make sure you keep up.

While one of the film's undoubted highlights has to be the excellent production design that is able to realise both the fun, gadget-laden Hill Valley of 2015 as well as the truly nightmarish, alternate Hill Valley of 1985 that is run by Donald Tru-- sorry I mean Biff Tannen. And what an ending it has. If you saw it at the cinema back in 1989 and didn't immediately begin to count down the days until Part III was released then I think there must have been something drastically wrong with you. I certainly know that anytime I watch this film I immediately feel the need to reach for my DVD boxset to pop on the concluding installment to this wonderful trilogy. It may still be behind the original film in terms of being my favourite but I imagine it gets closer and closer with every viewing. My #10

As for Gravity it's a somewhat similar situation to Avatar for me. When I saw it at the cinema I really enjoyed it as an 'experience'. Seeing it on the big screen was quite incredible. However it's another I've also not yet revisited at home on my 'substantially smaller than a cinema screen' TV. When I do I'll be interseted to see how it holds up. Here was my review from a couple of years back - JayDee's Gravity review (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=996773#post996773)

Seen - 50 / 60

My List
2. The Truman Show (#94)
10. Back to the Future Part II (#42)
12. Men in Black (#61)
14. Demolition Man (#68)
16. They Live (#45)
17. Guardians of the Galaxy (#77)
20. Galaxy Quest (#88)
22. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (#58)
25. Gattaca (#51)

Little Devil

03-13-17, 12:25 PM

Gravity was meant to be scary? I completely missed that. Maybe because it was a poor cinema experience. I think I'll prefer the film in 2D.It tried to depict an accident in Space. I can only imagine how scary that can be.

Cobpyth

03-13-17, 12:37 PM

Gravity wasn't purely meant to be scary. The whole film is a clear metaphor for climbing out of a depression. Cinema can show the beauty behind a human's darker moments and Gravity did exactly that.

Granted, a lot of the visually stunning moments can probably be considered cinematic masturbation, but they were also effective in making (at least) me feel emotionally engaged and bringing across the grandness of the disastrous situations. It's a very focused audiovisual piece of cinema with clear intentions, in my opinion.

TokeZa

03-13-17, 01:18 PM

Im not really a fan of the BTTF trilogy but i guess im not the target audience either. I rate BTTF II 2.5

Gravity is decent movie if you see at as an actionpacked rollercoaster ride, though not really interesting in terms of narrative. 3

Sexy Celebrity

03-13-17, 01:36 PM

Gravity wasn't purely meant to be scary. The whole film is a clear metaphor for climbing out of a depression.
If that's your interpretation, fine. But if that's a serious intention behind the movie, that's stupid! HELLO! It's supposed to be about the nightmare of outer space. Not a commercial for Prozac.

Citizen Rules

03-13-17, 03:02 PM

mark f

03-13-17, 03:26 PM

I loved BttF II when I first saw it, and I still like it. It's just as creative as the first film - it's just not as fun or funny. Gravity is one of the best of the 2000s. I had it as my #18. As some others have mentioned, I found it great-looking-and-sounding, exciting, thoughtful, hopeful and incredibly fast-paced.

My List
3. The Incredibles (#98)
12. The Iron Giant (#50)
13. Altered States (#95)
14. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (#79)
16. Return of the Jedi (#47)
18. Gravity (#41)

Seen: 60/60
OFCS's Top 100 Sci-Fi Films (2010 edition): 24/60

Captain Steel

03-13-17, 03:29 PM

Gravity sucked, you get helpless, idiotic Sandra Bullock who can't do a damn thing right being sent on a space mission? Ha... I don't think so!. Then you get George Clooney goofing around like some drunken space cowboy...Talk about ridicules!....And you guys hate Interstellar but think Gravity is good??? Why? seriously tell me what is so wrong with Interstellar?

They were like a drunken Batman & Robin!
The movie would've been really good if Arnold was in it telling them to "Chill."

"Wot killt de dine-oh-sauhs? De Ice Age!!!"

Sexy Celebrity

03-13-17, 03:33 PM

Gravity sucked, you get helpless, idiotic Sandra Bullock who can't do a damn thing right being sent on a space mission? Ha... I don't think so!. Then you get George Clooney goofing around like some drunken space cowboy...Talk about ridicules!....And you guys hate Interstellar but think Gravity is good??? Why? seriously tell me what is so wrong with Interstellar?

He is the most overrated actor - that George Clooney. I read an article about him that says he doesn't even try to seriously act, he just shows up and has fun. So I cannot buy him as an astronaut floating helplessly in space. The film was a HUGE waste of a great idea.

Citizen Rules

03-13-17, 03:41 PM

I like Clooney usually, especially in lighter dramas or drama-comedy. But yeah, I can't buy him floating around in space either. And I just don't get the love of Gravity, especially by those who thought Interstellar was some abomination, why?

77topaz

03-13-17, 04:22 PM

BttF II was a fun film, albeit one I haven't seen in a while. Gravity I thought had some nice visual effects, but was let down by poor acting and a fairly repetetive plot. Neither was on my list, though.

Citizen Rules

03-13-17, 04:35 PM

I gave Gravity 2 on my review: Gravity (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1275839#post1275839)

Back to the Future Part II, really fun film. I enjoyed all of the BTTF, but none made my list.

The Gunslinger45

03-13-17, 04:37 PM

He is the most overrated actor - that George Clooney. I read an article about him that says he doesn't even try to seriously act, he just shows up and has fun. So I cannot buy him as an astronaut floating helplessly in space. The film was a HUGE waste of a great idea.

We agree on George Clooney at the very least.

MovieMeditation

03-13-17, 04:46 PM

I semi-regret not putting Gravity on my final list... I really love it as an "experience movie" with all the technical brilliance and great action. The script sucks though. I find the metaphoric underlayer of rebirth and such to be fun and fascinating, while the dialogue makes me cringe. Should have hired less know actors too imo. I don't buy the scenario of the Nespresso guy and miss Congeniality tumbling around in space and I don't really like either peformance...

But as a crazy action-packed powerride through space, the film is awesome. It made it pretty high without my help anyways...

I like BTTF II well enough but did not vote for it.

Fabulous

03-13-17, 04:56 PM

I also forgot to add Gravity to my list, even though it probably only would've placed between 20-25. Much like Interstellar, it's a cinema spectacle. They were both amazing to watch but, other than their visual brilliance, there's not much else to them. The acting and writing in both movies isn't very good, but I think a lot of people are fine with that because its technical excellence provides such a spectacle.

Sexy Celebrity

03-13-17, 04:56 PM

We agree on George Clooney at the very least.

We don't agree about anything else?

The Gunslinger45

03-13-17, 05:16 PM

I love the Back to the Future movies! Sadly I only had room for one of them on my list, and I did not vote for BTTF 2.. I will post my thoughts on those movies more then likely when it appears in the top 10.

Gravity on the other hand I did vote for. It was my #18 and I was certain it would not be this high on the list. Gravity is one of those movies I use as an example as to why people NEED to see certain films in the theater. I saw Gravity when it came out and I shelled out the extra cash to see it in 3D. Now I generally hate 3D in movies, but this used the technology REALLY well. In fact it is the movie I think used 3D technology the best so far. Before I saw Gravity the best 3D movie I saw in the theaters was Drive Angry.

Gravity was a visual delight. But unlike other visually great movies like Interstellar, I got invested in the actors. Or should I say Sandra Bullock got me invested. I almost did not see this movie because of George Clooney being in the damn movie. The movie was a very thrilling and at times very unnerving survival story. I was hooked by Sandra trying to get home, I was invested in her well being, and the means she did to do so were nerve wrecking. I only had two real issues with the flick. One was I felt Sandra's back story felt a little too tacked on. It almost felt unnecessary. I thought the motivation to survive was enough to drive the film without her tragic past. I have not seen it since I watched it in the theater since I am worried it won't be as good to see it on my TV. But I still liked it enough to put it on my list.

4. The Avengers (2012)
15. Return of the Jedi (1983)
17. Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
18. Gravity (2013)
20. Escape from New York (1981)

My List: 5
Seen: 42/60

dadgumblah

03-13-17, 05:20 PM

Rodent, thanks for the recommendation for Interstellar. I'm not scared by bad reviews. I've just got a feeling I'll like it so I'll go for it one day.

I enjoyed both Back to the Future II and Gravity but like several people here, I'm not the biggest Clooney fan. I've liked him in several flicks, but his constant head bobbing (is that an actual tic or something----I don't want to make fun of the guy if he's early onset Parkinson's but once you see it, it's hard to unsee) is distracting and he does act like he's just there to part a lot, with a few exceptions. But I liked the effects of Gravity and I like Sandra Bullock in almost anything, and whether she was believable or not in this (I thought she was) I was distracted by her beauty. Shallow as I am, beauty can often tip the scale for me. :)

Back to the Future II, I thought was a great sequel. The darkness of the sequel didn't bother me. It had many delights and I feel Thomas J. Wilson is underrated in these films. I notice he stays busy but does a lot of voice work. Hey, if it puts food on the table, go for it!

I voted for neither, as the song goes.

List so far:
#8 Invasion of the Body Snatchers .46
#18 The War of the Worlds .90
#20 The Time Machine .69
#23 Logan's Run .71

The Gunslinger45

03-13-17, 05:56 PM

I had Back to the Future Part 2 at #13.

I do not like Gravity. At least, I just couldn't really feel much for it when I watched it.

The storyline for Gravity is absolutely fascinating for a movie -- but it's totally destroyed by the actors. I can't buy Sandra Bullock and George Clooney helplessly floating around in outer space. This is not the kind of film that needs big name actors we've all seen in hundreds of other big movies. To me, this was a fatal mistake. They're only there to get people's money at the box office. I don't like it. It might as well be Pee Wee Herman and Little Richard lost in space. Which could be very funny, but let's get serious.

I would love to see a Pee Wee / Little Richard space movie! Clooney I agree with since I can't stand, but I liked Sandra in the movie. Then again I really like her as an actress so that helped. And Clooney dies off in the movie so that meant he was not in the movie a whole lot.

I could however see this movie being pulled off by no name newbie actors though. We didn't need to have big names in the flick, but I am not the director.

honeykid

03-13-17, 06:06 PM

Gravity was a visual delight.

So I hear. Sadly, it's not one I could see because it's in 3D and there's no light. :D

Harry Lime

03-13-17, 07:16 PM

Gravity at #23!

Sexy Celebrity

03-13-17, 08:34 PM

Gravity was meant to be scary? I completely missed that. Maybe because it was a poor cinema experience. I think I'll prefer the film in 2D.

I kinda can't believe you went to see a 3D movie. You, of all people, seem like you should have already known that 2D movies are just better. Go see something in 2D first. If it's REALLY good, see the 3D version afterwards. See the 3D version first if it's something you really don't care about seeing in 2D. But then again, maybe that was your excuse with Gravity.

gbgoodies

03-14-17, 02:51 AM

I liked Back to the Future Part II, but not as much as the first movie, and not enough for it to make my list.

I liked Gravity, but I didn't see it in the theater, so maybe that's why I don't love it as much as other people do, so it didn't make my list either.

Seen: 49-1/2 out of 60
My list: 4 so far

13) The Avengers (2012)
16) Source Code (2011)
21) Wreck-It Ralph (2012)
23) Galaxy Quest (1999)

Camo

03-14-17, 02:58 AM

Seen: 49-1/2 out of 60

What's with the 1/2 gbg? Which movie did you turn off half way through? Just curious, i'm sure you explained this somewhere else in the thread but i must have missed it.

Citizen Rules

03-14-17, 03:00 AM

I'm thinking she's counting La Jetee as 1/2 a movie as it's so short;)

gbgoodies

03-14-17, 03:02 AM

What's with the 1/2 gbg? Which movie did you turn off half way through? Just curious, i'm sure you explained this somewhere else in the thread but i must have missed it.

I turned off Event Horizon because it was too much like a horror movie for me.

I tried to watch Event Horizon for this countdown because it sounded like an interesting concept, and I like Sam Neill, but it crossed too far into horror for me so I had to turn it off about an hour into the movie.

Seen: 5-1/2 out of 8
My list: 0 so far

gbgoodies

03-14-17, 03:03 AM

I'm thinking she's counting La Jetee as 1/2 a movie as it's so short;)

Nope. I watched La Jetee all the way to the end, so it counts as a full movie in my stats. :)

Cobpyth

03-14-17, 09:45 AM

If that's your interpretation, fine. But if that's a serious intention behind the movie, that's stupid! HELLO! It's supposed to be about the nightmare of outer space. Not a commercial for Prozac.

Well, my main point was that the film should be seen as an internal experience. It's a film about a person coping with the pains of her past in an organic manner. It's an alternative for Prozac if you will. The environment of space is meant to be a representation of her status. It's a seductive and dark place that is ultimately unhealthy to remain in. It shouldn't be shown as simply a nightmare, in my opinion. Internal darkness is much more ambiguous and complex than that.
That's why the ending is such an effective moment for me. It's her coming back to earth. She's in touch with gravity again. She's ready to face life again because of her journey. It stands in large contrast with the strange and uncontrolable place that is space.

I personally think both actors did a fine job, but I guess that's largely subjective.

Nope1172

03-14-17, 09:34 PM

40
Independence Day
(1996, Roland Emmerich)
https://www.movieforums.com/images/lists/scifi/xQrrkx4.jpg
133 Points, 9 Lists

Nope1172

03-14-17, 09:34 PM

39
The Day the Earth Stood Still
(1951, Robert Wise)
https://www.movieforums.com/images/lists/scifi/uhlA0Ce.jpg
139 Points, 9 Lists

Nope1172

03-14-17, 09:35 PM

The Stats

Independence Day
https://www.movieforums.com/images/lists/scifi/tumblr_mpfqkpmvvv1qm3ypqo1_500.gif
Wasn't tied with anything.

Layout: 1st, 2nd, 6th, 11th (x2), 12th, 15th, 21st, 22nd,

The Day the Earth Stood Still
https://www.movieforums.com/images/lists/scifi/giphy.gif
Also wasn't tied with anything.

Layout: 3rd (x2), 4th, 9th, 10th, 15th (x2), 18th (x2)

Sexy Celebrity

03-14-17, 09:35 PM

I like both of these movies. Glad ID4 made the list without my help - I forgot to include it.

The Rodent

03-14-17, 09:43 PM

Woot! Had ID4 at #11

Seen: 56/62
My List: 9/25

24. Interstellar - 43rd
23. Logan’s Run - 71st
22. Galaxy Quest - 88th
20. Invasion Of The Body Snatchers (1978) - 58th
16. Silent Running (1972) - 86th
14. Sunshine (2007) - 52nd
13. Event Horizon (1997) - 93rd
11. Independence Day - 40th
06. Dredd (2012) - 96th

rauldc14

03-14-17, 09:49 PM

Independence Day was of course my number 1! Hell to the yes!

Upton

03-14-17, 09:54 PM

The Gunslinger45

03-14-17, 10:05 PM

Another movie from my list! I don't care what people say I love Independence Day. I watch it every 4th of July. It is a big spectacular and very 90's sci-fi blockbuster. I love it. It was my number 21.

4. The Avengers (2012)
15. Return of the Jedi (1983)
17. Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
18. Gravity (2013)
20. Escape from New York (1981)
21. Independence Day (1996)

My List: 6
Seen: 44/62

cricket

03-14-17, 10:07 PM

Two good flicks today!

Captain Steel

03-14-17, 10:12 PM

I always say I didn't really like Independence Day that much when I first saw it in the theater. At the time I think I called it a mediocre, CGI-laden retelling of War of the Worlds (until I saw the 2005 mediocre, CGI-laden remake of War of the Worlds!), but over time it grew on me.

So I got a two-fer today!

3. The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)
4. War of the Worlds (1953)
7. The Time Machine (1960)
11. Logan's Run
23. Starship Troopers
22. Independence Day
25. District 9

Seen: 35 out of 61.

Captain Steel

03-14-17, 10:21 PM

For such a hokey movie that had so much wrong with it (general poe-faced idiocy, dog in the tunnel scene, insane stereotyping of multiple groups, Randy Quaid, etc) I think of Independence Day as a really quite memorable & fun time with several now-iconic moments. None of the dozens of inhumane disaster blockbusters that cashed in on its success were able to imitate its inexplicable semi-quality. Also one of the greatest marketing campaigns ever

Starship Troopers is still the only one to show up from my list but I went pretty chalk so I'm anticipating seeing most of them in the top 40

By the end, Randy Quaid was one of my favorite parts!
I feel bad for him.
So many fun memories from the Vacation movies where he played Cousin Eddie!
And he was in some classics like The Last Picture Show, The Last Detail, What's Up Doc?, Paper Moon, Midnight Express and The Long Riders (with brother Dennis)!
Poor Randy. :(

Miss Vicky

03-14-17, 10:23 PM

I liked ID4 when it came out and watched it a few times on VHS, but when I made the switch to DVD it wasn't something I bothered to replace. It didn't get my vote.

Haven't seen the other movie.

Upton

03-14-17, 10:26 PM

By the end, Randy Quaid was one of my favorite parts!
I feel bad for him.
So many fun memories from the Vacation movies where he played Cousin Eddie!
And he was in some classics like The Last Picture Show, The Last Detail, What's Up Doc?, Paper Moon, Midnight Express and The Long Riders (with brother Dennis)!
Poor Randy.

I put Randy Quaid in the same camp as Gary Busey. Both all right for a while, fine in several good movies but at a certain point they went off the rails in an unappealing way. Quaid's worse than Busey, though

JayDee

03-14-17, 10:35 PM

Damn! Several times I've correctly predicted what would come next on the countdown (District 9, Minority Report, Men in Black) but I've not posted it. My guesses for today were going to be Independence Day and Fifth Element.

Anyway, woohoo for Independence Day!!! http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y193/JayDee87/yay_zpsd08ca4bc.gif I was actually beginning to worry about it a little in terms of showing up. I had been 100% confident on it making the list but at the same time I didn't see it making the top 25/30 so we were beginning to run out of slots. I've loved ID4 since the first time I saw it as a 10 year old and still do to this day. It's a film that embodies the spirit of all those 1950s flying saucer movies but could really do it justice. So often those films had phenomenal posters that made promises they just couldn't live up to, but by the time Independence Day came around the filmmakers had the technology and budget to actually make those promises a reality. And it's a film that is holding up very well actually with the CGI still able to impress

As has been my justification for several films that made my list, ID4 is just a tremendous amount of fun. It's a simple story simply told, and all the better for it. It's a completely unpretentious thrill ride of special effects and a host of fun performances. In terms of big, dumb blockbusters it's actually got one of my favourite efforts from the cast in terms of an ensemble.This was Will Smith at his movie star best before 'Will Smith fatigue' started to affect audiences; largely down to the fact that these days the only performances he seems to give are phoned-in, 'the same as every other time' turns in blockbusters and award-seeking performances in dreadful, pompous dramas. Alongside him you've got the always wonderful Jeff Goldblum leading a rather eccentric cast (as far as blockbuster films go) including Bill Pullman, Judd Hirsch and Randy Quaid.

As for The Day the Earth Stood Still, I know a lot of people won't agree with this (at least 9 people seeing as that's how many lists it made) but am I the only one who doesn't think it's really that good? I admire some of the production values it was able to pull off given the rudimentary material and effects available at the time but beyond that I found it rather dull and uninvolving. From what I remember there were also several plot holes, or perhaps 'logic gaps', that were just absolutely ridiculous. Like the fact that a spaceship has landed in the middle of Washington and a giant robot is standing guard over it, and yet the only security left to monitor it are two soldiers! Two!!! Or my absolute favourite bit when Gort came back to life and rescued Klaatu from prison. Now Gort may well have many abilities in his locker; however I wouldn't say 'stealth' was amongst them. He's an 8 foot tall metallic being and yet he is able to wander the streets of Washington, smash through the prison and return Klaatu to the ship; all apparently without alerting a single person. If a modern film, the Day the Earth Stood Still remake for example, featured a scene like that it would rightly get torn to shreds.

In my mind it's a film where the message has almost blinded people to the actual quality of the film. It seems to happen with films that have positive, powerful messages that they get conflated with the actual films themselves. So TDTESS's societal message about us destroying ourselves if we continue to give in to our basest instincts covers up the shortcomings of the film as a whole. I think that Silent Running is another example; it's environmental message obscuring what is a rather bland film. To be honest I fail to see how The Day the Earth Stood Still is all that different from so many other 50s B-movies, beyond its anti-war denouncement of course. And yet while most of them are written off as cheap, pulpy crap this is seen as a classic and a masterpiece. I just don't see it.

Seen - 52 / 62

My List
2. The Truman Show (#94)
10. Back to the Future Part II (#42)
12. Men in Black (#61)
14. Demolition Man (#68)
15. Independence Day (#40)
16. They Live (#45)
17. Guardians of the Galaxy (#77)
20. Galaxy Quest (#88)
22. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (#58)
25. Gattaca (#51)

Camo

03-14-17, 10:41 PM

Independence Day is not a good film, it is fun though so who cares. The Day The Earth Stood Still is flawed as well but i love it. Will find what i posted about it tomorrow as i'm really tired. I had it at #18 anyway.

My List:

13.Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956)
14.Videodrome
16.Wreck-It Ralph
18.The Day The Earth Stood Still
24.La Jetee

Captain Steel

03-14-17, 10:47 PM

Interesting, JayDee.

Even though I put The Day the Earth Stood Still on my list (for several of the reasons you mentioned and for its regard as a seriously treated sci-fi classic that stands out among a sea of "B" monster movies from the era), I kind of agree with you.

In subsequent attempts to rewatch it, I found it painfully slow at parts and approaching dullness when one already knows the outcome (unlike a movie like ID4 where one can still get caught up & excited by the action and special effects despite having seen it before).

I've never seen the remake (of TDTESS), but have heard that it is so awful (and even more boring than the original) that I've avoided it.

AdamUpBxtch

03-14-17, 10:59 PM

ID was #2 on my......obviously Jay Dee it was getting on.

My List: 10/60

2. Independence Day (40)
3. Looper (100)
4. Starship Troopers (54)
6. The Prestige (72)
8. Signs (76)
13. Avatar (80)
14. 28 Days Later (85)
18. The Martian (60)
20. District 9 (65)
21. Edge of Tomorrow (66)
24. Source Code (92)
25. Cloverfield (Unranked)

TheUsualSuspect

03-14-17, 11:10 PM

You know, they just don't make movies like Independence Day anymore, case in point, the sequel.

The film had it all, great mixture of practical and CGI for special effects, a charismatic lead in Will Smith, great chemistry between ALL the characters, Goldblum doing his best Goldblum, memorable speeches, iconic imagery. This movie is a bonafide blockbuster. The sense of dread for the world to be fighting these aliens is spot-on, something that failed miserably with the sequel and many other imitators since.

Call it a bad movie all you want, I think it's a great one.

Also, not on my list.

mark f

03-14-17, 11:41 PM

I didn't vote for them but they have great trailers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51JoEE_znyI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3a0kv1sJxg
My List
3. The Incredibles (#98)
12. The Iron Giant (#50)
13. Altered States (#95)
14. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (#79)
16. Return of the Jedi (#47)
18. Gravity (#41)

Seen: 62/62
OFCS's Top 100 Sci-Fi Films (2010 edition): 24/62

Citizen Rules

03-15-17, 12:04 AM

Finally another film from my list shows up! I had The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) at #15. It's a solid film that still makes me think. And I liked the remake too:cool:

Independence Day, not on my list but a fun popcorn action adventure movie. So it's cool that it made the grade. I don't care to watch the remake/reboot of it.

Iroquois

03-15-17, 12:07 AM

Ugh, not Independence Day. I never liked it even when I was a kid and trying to revisit it last year felt like a serious waste of time. Obviously, I never bothered with the second one and probably never will.

The Day the Earth Stood Still is comparatively better, but like I said when I was talking about the 1956 Body Snatchers, most '50s sci-fi doesn't really work for me in the first place.

Sexy Celebrity

03-15-17, 02:25 AM

Well, my main point was that the film should be seen as an internal experience. It's a film about a person coping with the pains of her past in an organic manner. It's an alternative for Prozac if you will. The environment of space is meant to be a representation of her status. It's a seductive and dark place that is ultimately unhealthy to remain in. It shouldn't be shown as simply a nightmare, in my opinion. Internal darkness is much more ambiguous and complex than that.
That's why the ending is such an effective moment for me. It's her coming back to earth. She's in touch with gravity again. She's ready to face life again because of her journey. It stands in large contrast with the strange and uncontrollable place that is space.

Well, I would have to rewatch it again to see if I feel the same way.... but I wasn't impressed with it the first time.... and in my opinion, I think a movie with that kind of subject (floating helplessly in space, trying to get home, trying to get safe).... doesn't need to deal with someone's past and their depression issues. Perhaps that kind of thing hits home with certain people.... but it seems like such a trivial, current events kind of issue. Dealing with the issue of depression. You know, like, instead of depression, it's .... realizing you're transgender! Space is the dark void where you don't know what your gender is, but when you get to Earth, you do. Like, she could have been a transgender astronaut instead of a depressed astronaut. You know, the way you're describing it, it could be substituted for something like that.

Like, I don't care if Titanic deals with a love story and all that, but this kind of outer space disaster movie .... seems like a different territory to me. Also, I don't really like the idea that just because she made it home, back to Earth, now she's good to go with her depression. She can get over it. If she can face that, she can handle anything. While that may be true..... this just isn't a movie that should focus on DEPRESSION. Lots of people have depression, they're not gonna get the chance to try to survive outer space to beat it. And, what if this really doesn't even get her out of depression? What if she becomes MORE depressed after her whole ordeal? Maybe the harrowing experience of being lost in space only makes her perspective about life WORSE, not better. I mean, I dunno.... I imagine such an experience would give someone severe PTSD, you know?

So, I just don't buy what I'm hearing about how this is a lovely story about beating depression. Maybe it works for some people, but it didn't work on me at the time.

The Rodent

03-15-17, 02:48 AM

Sexy Celebrity

03-15-17, 02:49 AM

As much as Will Smith can grate on you... he was much better than his on-screen son Will.I.Ain't in Resurgence.

Oh, you saw Resurgence? I don't think I've seen your thoughts/review. I'm guessing you didn't like it.

The Rodent

03-15-17, 02:53 AM

Meh, I liked it to an extent... it just felt bland compared to the grand adventure that was the original.

Sexy Celebrity

03-15-17, 02:59 AM

Meh, I liked it to an extent... it just felt bland compared to the grand adventure that was the original.

It's a bad movie in theaters. A bad, bad, bad movie. Especially when you're hoping to recapture the feeling of the first movie.

It works at home, where you can pretend it's a cheap, direct-to-video sequel to the original film. The first movie is absolutely epic and I'm ashamed I forgot to include it on my list, but the sequel is a true crapfest. Go in with the LOWEST expectations and you'll sort of like it.

Sexy Celebrity

03-15-17, 03:02 AM

People would have probably liked Independence Day: Resurgence more if it had been released as a TV movie.

Then they'd be saying, "WHY DIDN'T THEY RELEASE THIS AT THE MOVIES?!?!?!" In the theaters.

gbgoodies

03-15-17, 03:05 AM

Independence Day is a fun movie, and I considered it for my list, but it didn't make it through the final round of cuts.

The Day the Earth Stood Still is one of the few 1950's sci-fi movies that I love. It was #4 on my list.

Seen: 51-1/2 out of 62
My list: 5 so far

4) The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)
13) The Avengers (2012)
16) Source Code (2011)
21) Wreck-It Ralph (2012)
23) Galaxy Quest (1999)

CosmicRunaway

03-15-17, 04:14 AM

I thought Independence Day was on my list, but I must have cut it at the last minute.

As a lot of people have already said, it's not a great movie, but it is a really fun one. I don't think I could count how many times I've seen it. I only saw The Day the Earth Stood Still for the first time about 8 years ago, and I think if I had seen it much earlier than that I would've liked it more. I didn't vote for it.

Seen: 51/62
My List: 8

01. Dredd (2012) - #96
02. Edge of Tomorrow (2014) - #66
04. The Martian (2015) - #60
...
09. Galaxy Quest (1999) - #88
11. Dark City (1998)
16. Videodrome (1983) - #53
...
22. Strange Days (1995) - #81
25. Primer (2004) - #44

Sexy Celebrity

03-15-17, 04:19 AM

I thought Independence Day was on my list, but I must have cut it at the last minute.

As a lot of people have already said, it's not a great movie, but it is a really fun one.

ENOUGH with this "Independence Day is fun, but it's NOT a great movie."

ENOUGH!

It's #40 on the Countdown.

It would have been higher if I had remembered to include it.

People love it. It's gonna be with us forever.

It's a GREAT movie.

Stop trying to please the snooty, stuck up, pretentious art crowd.

To Hell with ALL OF THEM.

Independence Day is a GREAT movie.

They just have to deal with that. NOW.

The Rodent

03-15-17, 04:20 AM

Independence Day sucks.
But it's fun so deserves its place.

Sexy Celebrity

03-15-17, 04:22 AM

Independence Day sucks.
But it's fun so deserves its place.

ENOUGH.

Or else I'm bringing back the Young Guns jokes in a way you've never witnessed them before.

Chypmunk

03-15-17, 04:26 AM

Independence Day is still iconic for the arrival of the spaceship scene and is alright if you just want some mindless fun but hasn't held up very well for me and didn't make my list. The original The Day The Earth Stood Still however did get a spot in my 25.

Faildictions:
38. Carry On Nurse
37. The Titfield Thunderbolt

The Rodent

03-15-17, 04:28 AM

:laugh:

Honestly, ID4 is typical Emmerich nonsense and racial stereotypes, even worse than Michael Bay... but, as others have said, it's a rip-roaring adventure.

Great CGI mixed with miniature work and practical effects.
Some hokey scenes too, but what do you expect from a film of its type?

ID4 is one of the last proper epic adventure movies before everything went full CGI.... it's fun, funny, cheesy, exciting, looks fantastic, has a ton of cheesy and OTT stuff in it.
As far as sci-fi stuff goes, as this list has proven, after 20+ years people still revere it.

I watched ID4 in cinemas... and next to Jurassic Park in 1993, it's one of the most unforgettable experiences of my cinematic childhood.

Iroquois

03-15-17, 04:32 AM

If nothing else, I will concede that the dog outrunning the explosion is a great scene.

Sexy Celebrity

03-15-17, 04:32 AM

I watched ID4 in cinemas... and next to Jurassic Park in 1993, it's one of the most unforgettable experiences of my cinematic childhood.

I saw Jurassic Park in 1993. It didn't leave a lasting impression at all. I saw it, I came home, I skipped every sequel it had, I'm kinda sick of it but I'll let its fans have their fun.

But Independence Day.... I thought that was the greatest movie of all time when I came home from that film. Last time I watched it, which was last year, I was still blown away.

The Rodent

03-15-17, 04:32 AM

Sexy Celebrity

03-15-17, 04:34 AM

If nothing else, I will concede that the dog outrunning the explosion is a great scene.

Why the dog? Why do you fixate on the dog more than anything else?

The Rodent

03-15-17, 04:35 AM

I saw Jurassic Park in 1993. It didn't leave a lasting impression at all. I saw it, I came home, I skipped every sequel it had, I'm kinda sick of it but I'll let its fans have their fun.

But Independence Day.... I thought that was the greatest movie of all time when I came home from that film. Last time I watched it, which was last year, I was still blown away.

This might be the age gap between us.

I was 11 when JP came out... you were about 11 when ID4 came out.

For me, Jurassic Park was my 11 year old world.

Sexy Celebrity

03-15-17, 04:36 AM

Another thing about ID4... is like Jurassic Park... it took forever to come out on VHS.

When a friend of mine got a copy on release day, it was an event. A real event.
A bunch of us all crowded round at his house and watched it... and that box cover with the hologram on it was awesome :D

Yes, I remember in the USA, the VHS cover for ID4 had a hologram, too.

I don't remember if it took forever to come out.... I want to say it came out in time for Christmas 1996, after its July 4th release.

Some VHS tapes did take quite awhile to be released. Longer than they usually take to be released now on DVD/Blu-ray.

Iroquois

03-15-17, 04:36 AM

Why the dog? Why do you fixate on the dog more than anything else?

Because the human characters annoy me.

The Rodent

03-15-17, 04:39 AM

Yeah back in the day in the UK, stuff took ages to arrive.

I think ID4, came out in 1996... and the VHS wasn't available to buy, you could rent it, but it wasn't available to buy until Summer 1997.

Jurassic Park was the same.
Came out 1993, could rent it by Christmas, but the VHS wasn't available to actually buy until something stupid like 1996.
I remember the cinema near me was still showing JP in 1997. They never stopped showing it until The Lost World came out. No joke.
It was a once-a-day showing at my local for close to 4 years.

Captain Steel

03-15-17, 04:40 AM

Are you talking about when the dog out ran the T-Rex? Yeah, that was cool! ;)

Sexy Celebrity

03-15-17, 04:40 AM

Because the human characters annoy me.

Oh, give me a break. If you were a dog, you'd hate the dog from ID4, but love the human characters.

The Rodent

03-15-17, 04:41 AM

All dogs love humans.
It's unconditional.

Iroquois

03-15-17, 04:41 AM

Oh, give me a break. If you were a dog, you'd hate the dog from ID4, but love the human characters.

If I were a dog, I wouldn't have to read your inane posts.

Sexy Celebrity

03-15-17, 04:45 AM

Jurassic Park was the same.
Came out 1993, could rent it by Christmas, but the VHS wasn't available to actually buy until something stupid like 1996.

Those were awful times - how movies would be released on VHS to rent first, THEN available to buy months later. Yes, it actually was like that then. It's weird thinking about how normal that used to be.

Sexy Celebrity

03-15-17, 04:46 AM

If I were a dog, I wouldn't have to read your inane posts.

Well, you could stop being a MoFo.

Unless you put me on your Ignore List, TONGO style.

dadgumblah

03-15-17, 04:49 AM

I love Independence Day and I have no excuse or reason for not including it here. There are at least two instances where I've included a movie and its remake so that may have had something to do with it. Since there are quite a few that were remade, I don't feel that's cheating revealing that. :)

The Day the Earth Stood Still is #3 on my list! Yes! I don't care about plot holes and such in this flick. I just remember it being a fun, sometimes spooky (Gort walking through the dark streets) movie for a kid. Watched it again for this list and loved it just as much. Michael Rennie was so suave as Klaatu---I didn't care if the nuclear message was heavy-handed or not---I just rolled with the whole package and loved every minute of it.

List so far:
#3 The Day the Earth Stood Still .39
#8 Invasion of the Body Snatchers .46
#18 The War of the Worlds .90
#20 The Time Machine .69
#23 Logan's Run .71

Iroquois

03-15-17, 04:52 AM

Well, you could stop being a MoFo.

Unless you put me on your Ignore List, TONGO style.

If I wanted to ignore every MoFo I didn't like, I'd just quit the site. It'd be quicker.

Sexy Celebrity

03-15-17, 04:54 AM

If I wanted to ignore every MoFo I didn't like, I'd just quit the site. It'd be quicker.

You sound so depressed. You should try floating around outer space without something keeping you safe. I hear that helps.

Iroquois

03-15-17, 04:57 AM

You sound so depressed. You should try floating around outer space without something keeping you safe. I hear that helps.

This just makes me think of the "Treehouse of Horror" where Bart and Homer end up on a space shuttle full of the most annoying celebrities (!) on Earth and they choose to eject themselves into space instead.

The Rodent

03-15-17, 05:00 AM

SC I thought you knew by now... Iro's safe zone is making out he doesn't have a safe zone :D

Oh wait... wait wait wait... I got it... his official position is, he has no official position.

Ha!

MovieMeditation

03-15-17, 05:32 AM

I'm not a huge fan of ID4, not as a great great movie or a great bad movie. It's alright and I like the last third or so. It is watchable and can be fun.

Not seen the other one.

TheUsualSuspect

03-15-17, 10:23 AM

The only sequence I liked in the Independence Day sequel was when the Queen was running around earth in the desert. The rest is garbage.

His son....ZERO ACTING ABILITY. More wooden than....something made of wood.

CosmicRunaway

03-15-17, 02:49 PM

Stop trying to please the snooty, stuck up, pretentious art crowd.
As a person who whole-heartedly admits to loving White House Down, I never thought I'd be accused of hiding my taste to fit in with others. :lol:

Do I think White House Down is great? Oh hell no, not even remotely. But it's still really fun and I'm not going to lie about finding it enjoyable. That doesn't mean I can't acknowledge what the movie does wrong, or why other people might hate it. Finding it entertaining doesn't mean that I have to think it's a great film.

I feel the same way about Independence Day. It's really corny, and there are plenty of things to dislike or nitpick, but if you're having fun, most of those things are irrelevant, or at the very least can be overlooked.

MovieMeditation

03-15-17, 03:53 PM

As a person who whole-heartedly admits to loving White House Down, I never thought I'd be accused of hiding my taste to fit in with others. :lol:

Do I think White House Down is great? Oh hell no, not even remotely. But it's still really fun and I'm not going to lie about finding it enjoyable. That doesn't mean I can't acknowledge what the movie does wrong, or why other people might hate it. Finding it entertaining doesn't mean that I have to think it's a great film.

I feel the same way about Independence Day. It's really corny, and there are plenty of things to dislike or nitpick, but if you're having fun, most of those things are irrelevant, or at the very least can be overlooked.
Amen.

Nope1172

03-15-17, 05:16 PM

38
Forbidden Planet
(1956, Fred M. Wilcox)
https://www.movieforums.com/images/lists/scifi/mjrv9ye.jpg
145 Points, 10 Lists

Nope1172

03-15-17, 05:16 PM

37
Mad Max: Fury Road
(2015, George Miller)
https://www.movieforums.com/images/lists/scifi/yy8ji84.jpg
150 Points, 16 Lists

Nope1172

03-15-17, 05:16 PM

The Stats

Forbidden Planet
https://www.movieforums.com/images/lists/scifi/tumblr_ojg66dGRq61ri5ljho1_500.gif
Wasn't tied with anything.

Layout: 4th, 5th (x2), 9th, 11th (x2), 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th

Mad Max: Fury Road
https://www.movieforums.com/images/lists/scifi/giphy.gif
Also wasn't tied with anything.

Layout: 3rd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 11th, 15th, 19th, 20th, 21st (x2), 22nd (x2), 23rd (x2), 24th, 25th

Sexy Celebrity

03-15-17, 05:19 PM

VERY happy to see Mad Max: Fury Road at only #37.

I don't care what you say - there IS a God!

Camo

03-15-17, 05:20 PM

Haven't seen Forbidden Planet. I liked Fury Road alot and had it at #21, this is what i posted about it:

Mad Max: Fury Road - 3.5+

http://i66.tinypic.com/5p3o0p.jpg

Feels like i'm the last person in the world to watch this. I've not seen any of the other Mad Max's in years and i was never a massive fan of them as a kid (maybe i'd like them more now) so i didn't have any of the problems the fans of those seem to have; Tom Hardy didn't play Max right and whatever else. I just took it on its own merits and enjoyed it quite a bit.

Thought both Max and Furiosa were great, i suppose i can see peoples problems with Max if he wasn't similar enough to Mel Gibsons version but i really don't get why some didn't like Furiosa, i liked her alot. I enjoyed them starting to trust and understand each other more, i think their relationship was one of my favourite things in the film actually. Nicholas Hoult surprised me i thought he was good, i actually didn't realize it was him until the Immortan looked at me part, loved how persistent and seriously brainwashed he was; he was good insight into all of the war boys mentalities. Joe was a pretty good villain, i liked how despite him being in power through brainwashing/using these younger people to do his bidding he was willing to go out and retrieve his wives himself and he was pretty intimidating. There was something weird that i liked about the fact he completely cared about his wives and unborn children despite being easily able to replace them; i thought that was a good touch how he tried to save Argharad (sp?) and how he swerved out of the way of her when she fell in front of his vehicle. Loved how nasty and crazy most of the characters were; actually how nasty,crazy and horrible the world was in general. This made the pursuit geniunely exciting because the idea of them getting caught be these horrible, brutal people was terrifying. Think the score helped a good deal towards that as well. Excellent action too, action isn't something that important to me anymore but i thought it was great how this knew exactly what it wanted to be and it never shyed away from it; with constant excitement all the way through. Some parts were a bit tedious to me like the fight between Furiosa and Max when they first met; it went on way too long (the whole scene the fighting parts weren't that long) but thankfully there wasn't too much of that that would've ruined the film for me. Spectacular visuals as well. Also just want to say that crazy guy playing the guitar was the best character, every time it cut to him i cracked up :laugh:

My List:

13.Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956)
14.Videodrome
16.Wreck-It Ralph
18.The Day The Earth Stood Still
21.Mad Max: Fury Road
24.La Jetee

MovieMeditation

03-15-17, 05:26 PM

I have watched Fury Road around 4 times and I still can't quite figure out if I merely like the movie or kinda love it. My opinion seems to go back and forth each time and sometimes the action awes me and other times it bothers me for feeling too bloated or simply too much and slightly repetitive.

Guess a 5th rewatch is due some time. :p

Not seen the other one.

Chypmunk

03-15-17, 05:35 PM

Forbidden Planet is one of my favourite sci-fi's and naturally made my list. I've not yet seen Fury Road, most likely will at some point but never really bought into the Mad Max hype first time around so it's certainly not a priority.

Faildictions:
36. Arrival (2016)
35. The Fly (1986)

Fabulous

03-15-17, 05:38 PM

I had Mad Max: Fury Road on my list. It's a little strange because I remember it being an awful lot of fun in the theatre, but I have little interest in re-watching it. It was on television the other day so I watched about 10 minutes of it, but wasn't interested enough to continue. I guess the initial experience and excitement couldn't be matched.

mark f

03-15-17, 06:16 PM

I like both of theses movies and I certainly think it's possible for anyone to enjoy them both, but I only voted for Mad Max: Fury Road at #23. Yes, Forbidden Planet has a certain nostalgia factor, but I actually like it more now than when I was a kid.

3. The Incredibles (#98)
12. The Iron Giant (#50)
13. Altered States (#95)
14. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (#79)
16. Return of the Jedi (#47)
18. Gravity (#41)
23. Mad Max: Fury Road (#37)

Seen: 64/64
OFCS's Top 100 Sci-Fi Films (2010 edition): 25/64

Miss Vicky

03-15-17, 06:27 PM

I LOVE Mad Max: Fury Road. So much adrenaline. So much excitement. Plus sexy AF Tom Hardy. I think I've seen it 8 or 9 times - four of which were at the theater. I put it at #11 on my latest Top 100 and voted for it at #4.

http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/MoFoTop100/madmaxfuryroad.gif

My Ballot:
3. Wreck-it Ralph
4. Mad Max: Fury Road
8. Demolition Man
12. Signs
14. The Incredibles
21. Dark City
25. Caveman

CosmicRunaway

03-15-17, 06:39 PM

Forbidden Planet was among a number of "maybe" films I had on my original short list, but it quickly jumped up the ladder when I rewatched it, and ultimately ended up at #18. I hadn't seen the film in a very long time, and had actually forgotten most of it. I really enjoyed the visuals and the effects, and the original Star Trek vibe it gave me. Fury Road was not on my list, but I do rather like it. :up:

Seen: 53/64
My List: 9

01. Dredd (2012) - #96
02. Edge of Tomorrow (2014) - #66
04. The Martian (2015) - #60
...
09. Galaxy Quest (1999) - #88
11. Dark City (1998)
16. Videodrome (1983) - #53
18. Forbidden Planet (1956) - #38
...
22. Strange Days (1995) - #81
25. Primer (2004) - #44

cricket

03-15-17, 06:49 PM

Fury Road is easily my least favorite of the series as I didn't like it at all. It looks like Mad Max, easily my favorite of the series, will not make it.

I liked Foridden Planet a good amount but it wasn't in contention for my list.

Miss Vicky

03-15-17, 06:52 PM

Fury Road is easily my least favorite of the series as I didn't like it at all. It looks like Mad Max, easily my favorite of the series, will not make it.

Switch those two around and you've pretty much got my opinion of the series: Fury Road is easily my favorite and Mad Max is easily my least favorite. I found the original really boring.

cricket

03-15-17, 06:56 PM

I know I'm in the minority, especially with The Road Warrior also being so popular.

MovieMeditation

03-15-17, 07:21 PM

I pretty much hated the original Mad Max.

Love Road Warrior, hate Beyond Thunderdome, like Fury Road.

By this system, I will hate the upcoming entry in the franchise. :laugh:

Swan

03-15-17, 07:22 PM

Fury Road is easily my least favorite of the series as I didn't like it at all. It looks like Mad Max, easily my favorite of the series, will not make it.

I like the first more than Fury Road, as well. I haven't seen Road Warrior or Thunderdome.

MovieMeditation

03-15-17, 07:37 PM

I like the first more than Fury Road, as well. I haven't seen Road Warrior or Thunderdome.
WTF

Seriously.

What the hell.

Dude.

Duuuuuude.

Swan

03-15-17, 07:46 PM

....yet

Citizen Rules

03-15-17, 07:53 PM

Yahoo, for the second day in a row, one of mine have made the list! Forbidden Planet (1956) was my #9.

The Gunslinger45

03-15-17, 08:23 PM

OH WHAT A LOVELY DAY! I had Fury Road at #4. I LOVED this movie! They stretched out the epic final chase in The Road Warrior to feature length and injected it with pure carnage, insanity, adrenaline, and testosterone! As someone who raged against the idea of a Mad Max reboot, I was floored that Fury Road was so good! It even did what I never thought it could. It made me like it more then The Road Warrior (which I really hope still shows up). Glad it it showed up.

Also since we seem to be doing this:

Fury Road (Easy fav)
The Road Warrior (incredibly close second)
Mad Max (A close third)
Beyond Thunderdome (A much closer 4th then most people would prefer)

I also dig Forbidden Planet, but I did not vote for it.

3. Mad Max: Fury Road (2015)
4. The Avengers (2012)
15. Return of the Jedi (1983)
17. Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
18. Gravity (2013)
20. Escape from New York (1981)
21. Independence Day (1996)

My List: 7
Seen: 46/64

The Gunslinger45

03-15-17, 08:24 PM

I like the first more than Fury Road, as well. I haven't seen Road Warrior or Thunderdome.

wat :eek:

gandalf26

03-15-17, 08:30 PM

38
Forbidden Planet
(1956, Fred M. Wilcox)
http://i.imgur.com/mjrv9ye.jpg
145 Points, 10 Lists

Havent seen it but could someone tell me where I can buy one of those AWESOME grey outfits?

Harry Lime

03-15-17, 08:47 PM

Great movies the last little bit here. None from my list but they're all a lot of fun.

Cobpyth

03-15-17, 09:48 PM

Nope1172

03-15-17, 10:13 PM

I've been busy and have missed revealing some of the movies from the countdown that were on my list, including the three most recent films. Here is my full list so far:

My List:
3: La Jetée (75)
6. Ghostbusters (57)
8. Back to the Future Part II (42)
12: Donnie Darko (83)
13: The Truman Show (94)
15. The Day the Earth Stood Still (39)
16. Forbidden Planet (38)
20. Mad Max: Fury Road (37)

JayDee

03-15-17, 10:22 PM

Two misfires for me today. I actually get the feeling that I'm going to find the list to be weaker the longer it goes. In fact I wouldn't be suprised if the top 10 films turns out to be my least favourite group of 10. I was really looking forward to Fury Road but was left spectacularly underwhelmed. I've still not given it another shot as of yet, despite my promises to our esteemed President to do so at some point. As for my thoughts on the series as a whole there aren't any that I'm especially a big fan of. Prior to Fury Road I rewatched the first two films and watched Thunderdome for the first time. Now the first time I saw Mad Max I didn't like it but based on those viewings the first film is actually my favourite of the series. On that repeat viewing I kind of appreciated the mean, spartan minimalism of the film. But again, nothing I'm crazy about

And Forbidden Planet is yet another accepted 'classic' that I just don't care for. Again I found it to be a rather lifeless, staid experience that largely felt like one exposition-heavy scene after another. And the acting was pretty atrocious from what I remember; just spectacularly stiff. I can appreciate the comparisons to Star Trek. It does feel very much like an episode from the original series but one that's been stretched too thin to try and fit its feature length running time. I found the result to be very slow and padded feeling, ensuring that it wasn't able to hold my attention.

Seen - 54 / 64

My List
2. The Truman Show (#94)
10. Back to the Future Part II (#42)
12. Men in Black (#61)
14. Demolition Man (#68)
15. Independence Day (#40)
16. They Live (#45)
17. Guardians of the Galaxy (#77)
20. Galaxy Quest (#88)
22. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (#58)
25. Gattaca (#51)

rauldc14

03-15-17, 10:25 PM

I haven't seen Fury Road. I wasn't big on either of the first two, so I've been in no huge rush.

Haven't seen Forbidden Planet either, but looks good.

Captain Steel

03-15-17, 10:38 PM

I almost got another two-fer today... except the Mad Max movie on my list is the original one about a "Road" and not the "remake" of that film! ;)

And as always, my only complaint about Forbidden Planet is that damn Moog synthesizer background noise (rather than theme music to fit each mood).
I would just loooove someone to put a John Williams type soundtrack behind it, which I think would make it truly epic!
Just think, you could have: "In Awe of the C-57D," "Alta's theme," "Robby approaches," "Morbius' Secret," "Tour of the Krell Complex," "Battle with the Id!" "End Title Exit Music." ;)

3. The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)
4. War of the Worlds (1953)
5. Forbidden Planet
7. The Time Machine (1960)
11. Logan's Run
23. Starship Troopers
22. Independence Day
25. District 9

Seen: 37 out of 63.

Captain Steel

03-15-17, 10:41 PM

Havent seen it but could someone tell me where I can buy one of those AWESOME grey outfits?

You have to enroll in the Space Academy and first become a cadet!
And they can't be bought... they have to be EARNED! ;)

Iroquois

03-15-17, 11:24 PM

Forbidden Planet is alright - as far as '50s entries go, I liked it more than The Day... or War of the Worlds.

Fury Road was my #11. In hindsight, that number was maybe a little too high but screw it, I'm not complaining.

gbgoodies

03-16-17, 02:58 AM

I thought Forbidden Planet was on my list, but I just checked, and it was in my final round of cuts. I'm glad to see it made the list anyway.

I didn't like Mad Max: Fury Road, so it wasn't on my list.

Seen: 53-1/2 out of 64
My list: 5 so far

4) The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)
13) The Avengers (2012)
16) Source Code (2011)
21) Wreck-It Ralph (2012)
23) Galaxy Quest (1999)

Sexy Celebrity

03-16-17, 03:06 AM

I didn't like Mad Max: Fury Road, so it wasn't on my list.
Queen of Movie Forums.

AdamUpBxtch

03-16-17, 03:12 AM

Mad Max Fury Road! I wasn't a huge fan of the Mel Gibson films from back in the day but Fury Road changed that. Can't believe an hour long car chase could keep me engaged and those special effects, gorgeous! Liked it a lot more than Jurassic World which hurts for me to say but hey what are you gonna do JW was never gonna be JP1.

My List: 12/63

2. Independence Day (40)
3. Looper (100)
4. Starship Troopers (54)
6. The Prestige (72)
8. Signs (76)
13. Avatar (80)
14. 28 Days Later (85)
18. The Martian (60)
20. District 9 (65)
21. Edge of Tomorrow (66)
22. Mad Max: Fury Road (37)
24. Source Code (92)
25. Cloverfield (Unranked)

I saw Jurassic Park in 1993. It didn't leave a lasting impression at all. I saw it, I came home, I skipped every sequel it had, I'm kinda sick of it but I'll let its fans have their fun.

But Independence Day.... I thought that was the greatest movie of all time when I came home from that film. Last time I watched it, which was last year, I was still blown away.

This might be the age gap between us.

I was 11 when JP came out... you were about 11 when ID4 came out.

For me, Jurassic Park was my 11 year old world.

I was born 2 years after JP came out. That film and the Lost World (yes I like JP2 as well sue me) fueled my love for dinosaurs at an early age. 6 year old me liked JP3 as well when it came out but as I got older that love quickly waned.

Kaplan

03-16-17, 05:04 AM

I had Forbidden Planet on my list. It's the best pure science fiction movie I've seen from the '50s.

My List:

6. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956) (#46)
9. World on a Wire (#73)
11. Forbidden Planet (#38)
22. Logan’s Run (#71)
25. Ghost in the Shell (#64)

dadgumblah

03-16-17, 05:04 AM

Nice couple of films there. Mad Max: Fury Road I loved but didn't include in this list like another, ahem, certain film that strangely reminds me of...never mind!

Yes! Forbidden Planet is my #4 on the list. I wish it had been higher, but I'm glad it made it. At the rate my picks are falling, I'm really curious what films are going to fill the Top 25.

List so far:
#3 The Day the Earth Stood Still .39
#4 Forbidden Planet .38
#8 Invasion of the Body Snatchers .46
#18 The War of the Worlds .90
#20 The Time Machine .69
#23 Logan's Run .71

TheUsualSuspect

03-16-17, 08:07 AM

Mad Max: Fury Road did not make my list on the account that it is too 'new'. I knew it would make the list though, so I figured it did not need my help.

And I'm in love with the film.

I've probably seen it a dozen times and recently purchased the Black & Chrome edition. I can't decide which version I love more.

Such a great flick from beginning to end.

The Rodent

03-16-17, 08:15 AM

Camo

03-16-17, 08:18 AM

My friend has the Black & Chrome edition and he showed me a few parts of it. Looked great.

The Rodent

03-16-17, 08:20 AM

Oh man, you guys.

I have an idea now.
I'm gonna take a DVD, turn the colour down on the telly, and flick the DVD to French.

It'll be like watching an art-house movie.

The Rodent

03-16-17, 08:22 AM

OH MY GOD IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!!!!

Currently watching 2009's Star Trek... flicked the colour off, put it in French, English subtitles...

IT WORKS!!! :rotfl:
I now have a new thang.

TheUsualSuspect

03-16-17, 08:25 AM

That's a good marketing ploy... release a movie in B&W, as well as normal... makes people buy it twice and never think about the fact they can simply press a few buttons on the TV remote... for free... :laugh:

It's not the same man. Miller specifically went back into the studio to personally change the colour of the film. Having the director in the room and specifically changing certain aspects vs a generic 'wash' of the colour is superior. If you can't tell the difference, sure, but I sure can.

Chypmunk

03-16-17, 08:26 AM

It'll be like watching an art-house movie.
Close but I think the actual term for what you are doing is "Phart-house" :D

The Rodent

03-16-17, 08:28 AM

Seriously, this is hilarious.

It's like watching some European sci-fi that had a budget thrown at it.
I've not laughed out loud like this for a long time.

Phart-House... I like that...

Gotta make a thread on this at some point.

TheUsualSuspect

03-16-17, 08:30 AM

I guess The Rodent isn't sophisticated enough to appreciate fine art.

https://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/Mmmm+yes+quite+i+do+say+you+are+right+sir+_ebb413f64eeefcc80f667c4137d4d4a7.jpg

The Rodent

03-16-17, 08:34 AM

I've always said, if I want to experience a foreign movie I just flick the DVD to another language.

Elessar

03-16-17, 10:39 AM

I must be one of the few people who hasn't watched Independent Day yet.

I had fun watching Mad Max: Fury Road but didn't have a great impression after watching. Maybe because of Tom Hardy: I'm not warm to any of his roles in any movies, can never understand the star status of him. Or maybe because I don't like Thunderdome either. Haven't seen others in the series.

Cobpyth

03-16-17, 11:35 AM

Forbidden Planet was my #17. It's a great old-fashioned sci-fi adventure with a strong and truthful message that gets transferred in a very effective manner. I wrote a review of it about two years ago. I'm on my phone right now so I can't quote it, but you can find it in the reviews section. I highly recommend watching this film!

Here below is that review I was talking about. I still think it's one of my better ones from that time:

Forbidden Planet (1956)

http://i.imgur.com/mJiG0.jpg

This is a really engaging and brilliantly smart classic sci-fi film that inventively exposes what could possibly be human's greatest ultimate intrinsic tragedy.

Our animalistic, irrational subconscious side, "Id".

The film's Freudian theme is very cleverly metaphorized through thoughtful, seemingly unimportant details (the cook's lust for drinking, the men's lust for the daughter, etc.) and more obvious representations (the tiger jumping at the commander and the daughter, the robot being the most likable and flawless character in the whole movie, the invisible monster, etc.) during the whole film. It's really amazing how well thought out this film is. Every single aspect of it can be given meaning in the context of the film's main theme.

Even though the story very much (almost exclusively) focuses on the specific observation that's being made about human nature, the film still feels very rich, because of the high ambition that was obviously at the basis of the film's sci-fi context.
- First of all, the technical aspect of the film perfectly works, the locations look really good (especially by the standards of that time) and it's just a joy to watch it.
- Secondly, the ideas in this story are BIG and the film cleverly takes its time to explicate the film's story and environment. We really get to know and explore this film's sci-fi universe. I love that!

The film kind of made me think of Stalker in a certain (far-fetched) way. Stylistically, the films couldn't be further apart, but both movies touch on very similar topical issues, in my opinion. So, don't expect this picture to be a high level philosophical film or anything like that. It just tells an exciting sci-fi adventure that happens to have very interesting substantial aspects to it when studied more intensively. It's said to be loosely inspired by Shakespeare's 'The Tempest'.

Back to the small comparison I wanted to make between both films.
In Forbidden Planet, we witness why extremely developed technology in the hands of mankind can be dangerous (it's told in a very symbolic manner, but the argument the film's making is very clear) and in Stalker, we basically get a meditation on why the existence of the "supernatural" (a sort of "wishing room" in this case) could be more dangerous than positive, when it can be manipulated by men.
In other words, two of mankind's biggest wishes are fulfilled, but ultimately seem to have unforeseen negative side effects, because there seems to be something wrong with us.

Both films basically talk about the tragic unreliability of humanity. We can't trust other people and we can't even trust ourselves, because we never fully have control over either of the two. There's a potential monster in all of us, even if there aren't any bad intentions... The point is not to be scared, but to be aware of the 'Id'-aspect of your nature. Don't deny its existence and don't be blind for its possible consequences.

"It will remind us that we are, after all, not God."

4+

Sexy Celebrity

03-16-17, 02:17 PM

OH MY GOD IT ACTUALLY WORKS!!!!!

Currently watching 2009's Star Trek... flicked the colour off, put it in French, English subtitles...

IT WORKS!!! :rotfl:
I now have a new thang.
GOD, even I think you're white trash for doing this.

Sexy Celebrity

03-16-17, 02:30 PM

Do it with Young Guns. I'm sure you'll become fluent with the new language by a week.

Cobpyth

03-16-17, 03:43 PM

Do it with Young Guns. I'm sure you'll become fluent with the new language by a week.

Never gets old.

mark f

03-16-17, 04:23 PM

To tell the truth, it does.

dadgumblah

03-16-17, 08:08 PM

Cobpyth, very nice meditation on Forbidden Planet. I love films that can be cherished on several levels. I selfishly wish it had made the Top Ten.

Seer123

03-16-17, 08:43 PM

I happened to watch Mad Max Fury Road yesterday for the second time and I enjoyed it much better. The last time I didn't pay much attention latter on in the movie. To be honest I couldn't even remember the ending.

cricket

03-16-17, 09:39 PM

Citizen Rules

03-16-17, 10:06 PM

Nope1172

03-16-17, 10:14 PM

36
Metropolis
(1927, Fritz Lang)
https://www.movieforums.com/images/lists/scifi/Gp2eVlQ.jpg
157 Points, 11 Lists

Nope1172

03-16-17, 10:14 PM

35
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
(1982, Nicholas Meyer)
https://www.movieforums.com/images/lists/scifi/9VvGdmB.jpg
164 Points, 12 Lists

Nope1172

03-16-17, 10:14 PM

The Stats

Metropolis
https://www.movieforums.com/images/lists/scifi/2d1375fb733ecf4e499ccf2e176b5132.gif
Wasn't tied with anything.

Layout: 3rd, 4th (x2), 5th, 8th (x2), 12th, 19th, 20th, 22nd, 24th

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
https://www.movieforums.com/images/lists/scifi/giphy.gif
This is the last tie of the list! Another film had 164 points, but was on one more list.

Layout: 1st, 3rd (x2), 6th, 10th, 14th, 16th (x2), 17th (x2), 21st, 24th

Camo

03-16-17, 10:14 PM

Well at least you watched it:), I shut if off after only 5 minutes.

I know it's not for everyone but can i ask what annoyed you so much in the first 5 minutes for you to turn it off? That's just the part where Max gets captured right?

Camo

03-16-17, 10:16 PM

Seen neither. I really should have watched Metropolis, will do soon. Don't like Star Trek, the only film that i've seen is Generations which i did not like. Might give Wrath of Khan a shot sometime since it is usually seen as the best.

Sexy Celebrity

03-16-17, 10:18 PM

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
https://media.giphy.com/media/MoufY72GCRRrG/giphy.gif
This is the last tie of the list! Another film had 164 points, but was on one more list.

Layout: 1st, 3rd (x2), 6th, 10th, 14th, 16th (x2), 18th, (x2), 21st, 24th

Okay, something's wrong here because according to my list, I had The Wrath of Khan at #15. And I don't see a 15 listed among the layout.

The odd thing is - I'm not really a fan of The Wrath of Khan. I just wanted to include it on my list (yet, for some reason, I forgot to include Independence Day).

I like the ending with Spock.

I've seen part of Metropolis.

The Rodent

03-16-17, 10:19 PM

As for Trek, like with Star Wars and superhero/comic movies, I omitted them :D

I had Metropolis in the 150+ movies I'd initially shortlisted , but ultimately knew it was going to make it so cut it.

Citizen Rules

03-16-17, 10:19 PM

I know it's not for everyone but can i ask what annoyed you so much in the first 5 minutes for you to turn it off? That's just the part where Max gets captured right?I talked about that reason in the 8th Hof. If you read this post
https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1397946#post1397946

and then scan ahead a bit more we talked about it for a while, mainly me and MovieMeditation.

Edit: I see I watched it a full 12 minutes:p

https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1398230#post1398230

Miss Vicky

03-16-17, 10:19 PM

I watched Metropolis when I was exploring silents. I respected it, but didn't love it and never considered it for my list.

I don't do Star Trek.

JayDee

03-16-17, 10:23 PM

Damn I've done it again! I was just about to predict Moon and Wrath of Khan when Nope posted. :( For tomorrow I'm going Moon and The Fifth Element.

Anyway I've still never seen Metropolis. Anytime it comes into my mind to watch it I always get put off by what it entails. "Should I watch Metropolis today? Well it's 3 hours long. And it's black&white. And it's silent.....nah let's just watch Independence Day again! :D But some day

As for Wrath of Khan I've never really fallen for it in any great way. For the most part I prefer Trek TV as opposed to the films but even when it comes to the films featuring the original crew I've always preferred the lighthearted, joyous Voyage Home. I've seen Khan a few times and I've found it a decent enough watch but not much more as of yet; maybe on my next viewing.

Seen - 55 / 66

My List
2. The Truman Show (#94)
10. Back to the Future Part II (#42)
12. Men in Black (#61)
14. Demolition Man (#68)
15. Independence Day (#40)
16. They Live (#45)
17. Guardians of the Galaxy (#77)
20. Galaxy Quest (#88)
22. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (#58)
25. Gattaca (#51)

Camo

03-16-17, 10:24 PM

I talked about that reason in the 8th Hof. If you read this post
https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1397946#post1397946

and then scan ahead a bit more we talked about it for a while, mainly me and MovieMeditation.

Edit: I see I watched it a full 12 minutes:p

https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1398230#post1398230

Fair enough. I don't agree with you obviously but i can understand why you'd feel that way. Which part did you turn it off at?

Nope1172

03-16-17, 10:25 PM

Okay, something's wrong here because according to my list, I had The Wrath of Khan at #15. And I don't see a 15 listed among the layout.
Hmm, my bad. I think I may have accidentally placed your film in 14th instead of 15th, but I have safety things to prevent me from doing that. I'll check later tonight if anyone else placed the film in 14th, but I most likely just misplaced your film. If that's so, it shouldn't effect the placement of any of the films.

cricket

03-16-17, 10:43 PM

Metropolis did not quite make my list but I thought it was fantastic.

I've never seen the Star Trek TV show, but I have seen a couple of the movies, including that one. I don't dislike them, but they do nothing for me.

mark f

03-16-17, 10:44 PM

I didn't vote for Metropolis because it's such a significant film and I would have given it so few points. Khan is certainly deserving if only for Ricardo Montalban's Rich, Corinthian Chest, but I also left it off the list.
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I finally got around to watching this again, this time with Sarah. I'm glad I did. If you have the time and just let it wash over you (preferably the restored version with clean, clear subritles), it moves along very quickly. On the other hand, it does seem to cram in a whole lotta plot into one film, but somehow it mostly resolves itself at the end.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WsE6M_RjBIY/S2TJLyi1UDI/AAAAAAAAZWU/MEWjrU4DAQY/s400/Metropolis.jpg
First off, the main reasons for watching Metropolis are the super sets, special effects and all the elements of the production design. Sometimes the camerawork appears hand-held, especially in closeups of some of the "action scenes". Then again, much as his fellow countryman F.W. Murnau did in his American film Sunrise (also 1927), Lang uses all kinds of photo and editing trickery to incorporate paranoia and disorientation; one of my fave of these is the shot of all the eyes superimposed together when the rich young men of the upper world are seduced by the "robotic" Maria and begin to fight and kill each other over her and her charms. That eye shot certainly reminded me of some of Dali's later work in films. There are so many spectacular shots, sets and effects that one could write a book detailing the creation and subliminal effect of each one, but this is not the place for that, although it would be interesting to hear some of other viewer's favorite visual flourishes.
As far as plot points go, maybe I can list a few and see what people think of each one and how they may help/hinder the overall film and what it's trying to accomplish.
http://www.rowthree.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Metropolis-city01.jpg
1. Metropolis is a huge city where the rich and powerful have a wonderful life consisting mostly of modern technology and entertainment while the workers live underground as almost slaves and never even see the light of day. What I would like to know is whether Metropolis is supposed to be representative of an entire futuristic world, an anomoly or something parents tell their children as a bedtime story beginning with "Once upon a time... ".
http://bookandnegative.altervista.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/metropolis_masters_of_cinema7.jpg
2. There is a saintly woman named Maria (Brigitte Helm) who tries to pick up the spirits of the workers by telling them that a Mediator will come one day to reconcile the Hands (the workers) with the Head [the founder of Metropolis, Joh Frederson (Alfred Abel)]. Maria speaks to people in front of a group of crosses and attracts Joh's son Freder (Gustav Fröhlich) who decides that he could be the Mediator. I'm not especially up on my German, but Joh sure seems like John, so we could have the characters of John and Mary somehow coming together to "create" a Mediator named Freder, which sounds a lot like "Freedom".
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3. Joh has a rival in the character of a "mad scientist" named Rotwang (Rudolf Klein-Rogge, Dr. Mabuse himself). The scientist seems similar to both Dr. Frankenstein and Dr. Strangelove. The reason Rotwang and Joh are rivals dates back to the fact that they both loved the same woman, Hel, who married Joh but died giving birth to Freder. Rotwang invents a robot which can appear human and kidnaps Maria to turn this robot into a Maria who will incite the masses.
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4. The world of the workers and the way in which Joh interracts with it seems to have also inspired Charles Chaplin's use of technology and class struggle in Modern Times. I even see a strong resemblance between the appearance of the leader of Chaplin's factory and Joh Frederson. This also brings me to the concept of how the technology works in the utopian upper part of the city. Near the end, after the workers have destroyed the heart machine and power is shut off above ground, we see all the ground transportation piled up in what appears to be a freeway. We also see none of the planes and other flying vehicles in the air. This implies that all modes of transportation above ground run due to the Heart Machine and not due to something resembling gasoline.
http://media-3.web.britannica.com/eb-media/57/80057-004-28E9156B.jpg
5. The final third of the film turns into something resembling a disaster flick when the bottom levels flood and all the workers' children have to be saved by Freder, Maria and Josaphat (Theodor Loos), a man in the employ of Joh who is also Freder's good friend. Ultimately, it turns the entire film into a story about Family and how all the characters seem to believe that it's the most important thing in their lives, even if they'd occasionally rather wreak destruction, burn "witches", and have wild dancing revels while doing so.
http://www.artscriticatl.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/metrop_1-500x357.jpg
6. I've left out many other points which almost seem superfluous but are included in the film. These include the relationship of 11811 [Georgy] (Erwin Biswanger), a worker, with Freder, and the way the Thin Man (Fritz Rasp) spies on Freder and intercepts Georgy. Both the characters of Georgy and the Thin Man were previously only discussed in intertitles because they were part of the lost footage, but now with the restoration, what they have to do with the film is much clearer. They may be incidental characters but they help to flesh out themes of friendship and mistrust.
https://hanseco.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/metropolis1.jpg?w=480&h=361http://futuristicarch.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/from-metropolis-to-blade-runner-architecture-that-stole-the-show.jpg
Metropolis and Blade Runner
I realize that this is a superficial summary of some of the content of Metropolis, but I'm going to leave it at this for now since I'm still waiting for others to discuss it in more detailed or specific terms. My rating is 3.5, but my classic rating is obviously 5.
3. The Incredibles (#98)
12. The Iron Giant (#50)
13. Altered States (#95)
14. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (#79)
16. Return of the Jedi (#47)
18. Gravity (#41)
23. Mad Max: Fury Road (#37)

Seen: 66/66
OFCS's Top 100 Sci-Fi Films (2010 edition): 27/66

The Gunslinger45

03-16-17, 10:56 PM

I have seen both and they are excellent films. But I voted for Wrath of Khan. One of the most celebrated sci-fi films and easily the best Star Trek movie. One that has stuck with me a non Trek fan since I was a kid. It was my #16.

3. Mad Max: Fury Road (2015)
4. The Avengers (2012)
15. Return of the Jedi (1983)
16. Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan (1982)
17. Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
18. Gravity (2013)
20. Escape from New York (1981)
21. Independence Day (1996)

My List: 8
Seen: 48/66

Citizen Rules

03-16-17, 11:18 PM

Wrath of Khan is one of the better Star Trek movies. I'd say to get the full enjoyment out of it, it helps to be a Trekkie, or better yet a Trekker:p...which I am! Wrath of Khan is like a love letter to Star Trek fans so if someone was to watch only one of the older ST movies and wasn't a ST fan, I'd say watch the first movie ST The Motion Picture. I didn't include any Star Trek movies on my list, but of course hold them dear.

Metropolis, happy to see that one here. I didn't vote for it as I didn't have room and knew it would make it anyway. It's neat they finally found the missing portions of the movie. The first time I watched it, it was an incomplete film.

Mad Maxx Fury Road...Fair enough. I don't agree with you obviously but i can understand why you'd feel that way. Which part did you turn it off at?I think it was the fight in the desert. I wasn't too excited to watch the movie anyway and as soon as it started, I thought I have 100s of movies to watch and so choose another one.

TheUsualSuspect

03-16-17, 11:35 PM

Camo

03-16-17, 11:36 PM

How did i get a mention for that? The hell?

Miss Vicky

03-16-17, 11:47 PM

How did i get a mention for that? The hell?
I'm guessing Suspect is using mobile and he quoted Citizen who quoted you.

Citizen Rules

03-16-17, 11:58 PM

Might be the new https thing?

Camo

03-17-17, 12:01 AM

I'm guessing Suspect is using mobile and he quoted Citizen who quoted you.

Didn't know it was different on mobile. Fair enough.

Sexy Celebrity

03-17-17, 12:05 AM

I'm guessing Suspect is using mobile and he quoted Citizen who quoted you.

Didn't know it was different on mobile. Fair enough.
Yeah, like this. I'm doing it.

Camo

03-17-17, 12:07 AM

But did Miss Vicky get a mention?

Miss Vicky

03-17-17, 12:10 AM

Yes.

Iroquois

03-17-17, 12:51 AM

Metropolis is a fine and respectable choice that would deserve to make any best sci-fi countdown, but I didn't vote for it.

Wrath of Khan was my #24.

edarsenal

03-17-17, 12:55 AM

Okay, haven't been on this list since, like, Sunday, so, recap::

Haven't seen list:
Body Snatchers - which is okay cuz I haven't seen the remake either. I know that's a horrible reason, but that's all I got
Primer
Intersteller
Gravity - totally up in the air whether I'll see any of these at all
Forbidden Planet - which I REALLY need to simply out of nostalgia sense of an old time flick
Metropolis - perhaps I'll see this when we get to silent movies. Missed out a couple of times at the art movie theaters around town in the past years.

Seen but didn't make the list
Back To the Future II - kind of so-so with the whole franchise, appreciated the first but it went down hill fast for me
Independence Day Yes, Sexy, this IS a GREAT movie, ***** yes! But, not on the list. Not exactly sure why it fell to the roadside.
The Day The Earth Stood Still - haven't seen this since I was a wee tyke, but, d@mmit that still counts
Mad Max: Road Fury A truly, f@ckin incredible movie which ranked #1 on my Action List and because I see it as such a powerhouse action flick it sadly did not make my Sci-Fi list.
Star Trek II: Wrath of Kahn Nobody did the Kahn scream?! REALLY!! No one?!?
this is my moment of disgust.
No, it didn't make my list, but still, I'm disgusted no one did the yell. That's just wrong.
And screw you, I'm not doing it just to be petty.

OK, I'm done b!tching lol

The only one to make my list is They Live at #9. It's cheesy, the lines are corny but GODD@MMIT I f@ckin love this flick! Roddy delivers these cornball lines with such great delivery and that final scene of his, the best f@ck you, EVER. The premise is great and done VERY well - I won't get into the whole deeper meaning about capitalism etc. I'll simply appreciate the premise and move on.
And yes, the fight in the alley -- f@ckin AWESOME

that should catch me up, for now.

My List: 12/25

#3 Serenity (#59)
#4 Gattaca (#51)
#6 Dark City (#48)
#7 Strange Days (#81)
#9 They Live (#45)
#10 Predestination (#56)
#11 Silent Running (#76)
#12 Ghost in the Machine (#64)
#15 Akira (#55)
#18 Time Machine (#69)
#20 Minority Report (#63)
#23 Logan's Run (#71)

Watched: 46/66

dadgumblah

03-17-17, 01:34 AM

Nope, like Sexy Celebrity, I had Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan in a different spot, at #17 and I don't see that number on the stats. Anyway, love Trek and love "Wrath of Khan" most of all. Also love Metropolis as a great silent, classic movie but I didn't include it here.

List so far:
#3 The Day the Earth Stood Still .39
#4 Forbidden Planet .38
#8 Invasion of the Body Snatchers .46
#17 Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
#18 The War of the Worlds .90
#20 The Time Machine .69
#23 Logan's Run .71

Sexy Celebrity

03-17-17, 01:38 AM

This countdown has been rigged. :damon:

dadgumblah

03-17-17, 01:49 AM

This countdown has been rigged. :damon:

To placate ed, I'll just say, "Khaaaannnnn!" :)

Captain Steel

03-17-17, 02:47 AM

Since I placed many films on my list based on historical or cinematic science fiction significance, I strongly considered Metropolis. But my overall memory is that it wasn't a really enjoyable film to sit through (the same goes for Things To Come (1936) - which I also considered for its prophetic significance, but didn't put it in the top 25 as an all around great film).

My list so far:

3. The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)
4. War of the Worlds (1953)
5. Forbidden Planet
7. The Time Machine (1960)
11. Logan's Run
17. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
22. Independence Day
23. Starship Troopers
25. District 9

Seen: 39 out of 66.

dadgumblah

03-17-17, 02:51 AM

Hey Captain, you had The Wrath of Khan at #17 just like me. Very interesting.

Sexy Celebrity

03-17-17, 02:53 AM

Oh you know why I probably put The Wrath of Khan on my list?

CosmicRunaway played Khan in my Survivor 7 game. I just remembered that.

It could have influenced my decision.

Captain Steel

03-17-17, 03:01 AM

Hey Captain, you had The Wrath of Khan at #17 just like me. Very interesting.

Wondering if there is a way, at the end, to compile all the stats to see who had the most similar lists.
So far it looks like we have a lot in common, Dadgum!

And yes, apparently since two of us had Khan at 17, there was a mix up in the stats posted for that film (as others have been pointing out).

dadgumblah

03-17-17, 03:04 AM

Yeah, it's kind of spooky ain't it? :eek: But hey, great minds and all that! :cool:

Chypmunk

03-17-17, 03:58 AM

I had Metropolis in my twenty-five, I've seen Wrath Of Khan a cpl of times but despite loving the tv series I can't honestly say I really enjoy any of the movies in the franchise.

Faildictions:
34. Fantastic Voyage (1966)
33. Barbarella (1968)

Camo

03-17-17, 04:01 AM

Two #17's and a #15 that are not listed? Unless it's just the places he has mis-listed and not the scores he has miscounted the list could be changed tomorrow.

gbgoodies

03-17-17, 04:25 AM

I've seen Metropolis, but I didn't like it enough for it to make my list.

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan is my favorite Star Trek movie, and it's the movie that made me a Trekkie. It was #6 on my list.

Seen: 55-1/2 out of 66
My list: 6 so far

4) The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)
6) Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982)
13) The Avengers (2012)
16) Source Code (2011)
21) Wreck-It Ralph (2012)
23) Galaxy Quest (1999)

NedStark09

03-17-17, 04:27 AM

Independence Day number 12 On My List
Star Trek 2 Wrath Of Khan Number 3 On My list

35 seems kinda low for the best Star Trek film in the franchise.

MovieMeditation

03-17-17, 05:06 AM

Seen neither.

I've seen a little bit of Metropolis and of course I intend to watch it all some day.

I don't really have much interest in Star Trek...

77topaz

03-17-17, 06:23 AM

Two films from my list in the same set! :) It looks like more films from my list will miss out than I previously thought, however. :(

My list so far, with predictions:
1. Top 5
2. Top 10
3. Contact (#49)
4. Top 20
5. Interstellar (#43)
6. Will probably make it, but may not
7. May or may not make it
8. Top 34
9. Top 34
10. Will probably make it, but may not
11. Avatar (#80)
12. Top 5
13. Top 10
14. Probably won't make it
15. Dune (#99)
16. Will probably make it, but may not
17. Won't make it
18. Won't make it
19. Metropolis (#36)
20. Probably won't make it
21. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (#35)
22. Gattaca (#51)
23. Serenity (#59)
24. Strange Days (#81)
25. Earthbound (one-pointer)

CosmicRunaway

03-17-17, 07:48 AM

Wrath of Khan was #3 on my list. It's miles above the other Star Trek films, has a great performance from Ricardo Montalbán, big emotional moments at the end, and being tied to episodes of the series, is everything the first Star Trek film should have been, but wasn't.

Metropolis was also on my list at #8. It was an amazing accomplishment in filmmaking at the time, and like almost every other German Expressionist film, I find the cinematography to be absolutely beautiful. I do, however, prefer alternate versions that provide a different score for the film.

Seen: 55/66
My List: 11

01. Dredd (2012) - #96
02. Edge of Tomorrow (2014) - #66
03. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982) - #35
04. The Martian (2015) - #60
...
08. Metropolis (1927) - #36
09. Galaxy Quest (1999) - #88
11. Dark City (1998)
16. Videodrome (1983) - #53
18. Forbidden Planet (1956) - #38
...
22. Strange Days (1995) - #81
25. Primer (2004) - #44

CosmicRunaway

03-17-17, 07:54 AM

Oh you know why I probably put The Wrath of Khan on my list?

CosmicRunaway played Khan in my Survivor 7 game. I just remembered that.

It could have influenced my decision.
:cool:

I was a little surprised to see you had voted for it. Whether or not I actually had anything to do with that, I'm happy to see it made your list.

Nope1172

03-17-17, 08:44 AM

Im trying to figure out what happened with the missing votes. It should be resolved by the end of the day.

TheUsualSuspect

03-17-17, 08:52 AM

Im trying to figure out what happened with the missing votes. It should be resolved by the end of the day.

https://media.giphy.com/media/QUaqJRizED5NC/giphy.gif

Iroquois

03-17-17, 09:32 AM

Independence Day number 12 On My List
Star Trek 2 Wrath Of Khan Number 3 On My list

35 seems kinda low for the best Star Trek film in the franchise.

It seems about right to me - it's #30 on the OFCS list, after all.

Seen neither.

I've seen a little bit of Metropolis and of course I intend to watch it all some day.

I don't really have much interest in Star Trek...

For what it's worth, it's better than every Resident Evil movie.

Kaplan

03-17-17, 09:33 AM

I had Metropolis at #3. The first time I saw it was a couple decades ago when a friend was taking, I believe, a film studies course and a few of us were over and he showed us the film. (It's the same way I saw The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari with the same reaction.) The best part is I had no expectations for it. I didn't know if I'd like it or not, I had no prejudice against silent films because I'd only seen literally a couple silent movies, nor did I have any thought I was supposed to like it because it was a big, important classic film. It really was the ideal situation. And as it turned out I loved it. I'm not sure I fully understood the plot and to be honest I'm not sure I do today, but I've seen it a few more times and I'm always so amazed this film was made ninety years ago. And the movie literally gets longer every time I watch it as I've tried to keep up each time new footage is found and integrated back in. What great times we live in. In my mind it's one of the greatest film achievements ever. How can you not be amazed when you see stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSExdX0tds4

It's only too bad the newly found footage is so damaged compared to the original, which has been restored to look like it was filmed last year, but the elements the new footage adds is worth dealing with.

I had no Star Trek films on my list (or any of those Star franchises), but I remember seeing The Wrath of Khan in the theatre way back when and loving it quite a lot.

My List:

3. Metropolis (#36)
6. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956) (#46)
9. World on a Wire (#73)
11. Forbidden Planet (#38)
22. Logan’s Run (#71)
25. Ghost in the Shell (#64)