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rauldc14
09-19-16, 12:53 PM
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1956, Directed by Cecille B. Demille
205 Points
13 Lists (3rd,5th,6th,8th,8th,8th,9th,9th,13th, 14th,15th,16th,19th)
Miss Vicky
09-19-16, 12:57 PM
I hated Ben Hur. Haven't seen the Ten Commandments and likely never will.
Chypmunk
09-19-16, 12:58 PM
Seen both a million times (poss a slight exaggeration) - neither on my list.
rauldc14
09-19-16, 01:02 PM
I had Ben-Hur at 17. Brilliantly directed by William Wyler and overall a great production.
NedStark09
09-19-16, 01:03 PM
This Is a First Time Commandments is my 3rd Ranked Film and Ben-Hur My 9th
I am 9/25 from my List
24 Seen Movie from 100 List
Miss Vicky
09-19-16, 01:03 PM
Are we going to get another set of movies today?
Daniel M
09-19-16, 01:04 PM
If Rio Bravo Gets In Id be shocked cause I just dont see them Putting in Rio Bravo, High Noon and The Searchers 3 Westerns in the next 30 slots.
Rio Bravo is 100% in, it has many fans on this forum, as I keep telling you.
Daniel M
09-19-16, 01:06 PM
I watched Ben-Hur the other day and it was mainly a massive bore, I'd imagine that The Ten Commandments is similar, although perhaps that being too dismissive of DeMille who seems like an interesting director from what I hear.
Miss Vicky
09-19-16, 01:06 PM
Rio Bravo is 100% in, it has many fans on this forum, as I keep telling you.
Yeah, I'd be shocked if Rio Bravo doesn't show. Ned clearly has no understanding of MoFos' tastes.
NedStark09
09-19-16, 01:09 PM
28 Vertigo It just seems time for a Hitchcock Movie but think it be too low for Rear Window or North By Northwest.
27 Alice In Wonderland
Daniel M
09-19-16, 01:12 PM
Yeah, he only seems to visit certain threads. Anyone who know me knows at least roughly where it will be on my list, then it doesn't need many points to get on. Lots of people her are big fans. Cobpyth, Swan, Captain Spaulding off the top of my head. Looking at who sent a list maybe it's not going to get enough points to break the top 20, but surely it's soon.
Daniel M
09-19-16, 01:13 PM
Ned, Vertigo is a contender for the number one spot on the entire list, lots of people on here love it and its generally considered to be one of the greatest works of the decade, I would bet all my money that it reaches the top ten.
Alice in Wonderland could show up soon.
NedStark09
09-19-16, 01:14 PM
Yeah, I'd be shocked if Rio Bravo doesn't show. Ned clearly has no understanding of MoFos' tastes.
No I dont no the collective likes of every MOFO member that collectively as I call it MOFO nation. Its just under my observation Westerns seem too be considered B movies in classic films sometimes and Western films seldom are mentioned unless Leon is mentioned.
The Gunslinger45
09-19-16, 01:15 PM
A double dose from my list! I love old school Biblical Epics and Ben-Hur and The Ten Commandments are my two favorites. Ben-Hur being one of my Top 25 favorite films of all time.
Both are fantastic films about faith. One about salvation from hate and vengeance through Christ, and the other the tale of Exodus. And both star one of my all time favorite actors Charlton Heston. Ben-Hur was my number 2, and The Ten Commandments was my number 8.
2. Ben-Hur (1959)
4. Kiss Me Deadly (1955)
5. Rififi (1955)
8. The Ten Commandments (1956)
10. The Killing (1956)
11. Sansho the Baliff (1954)
13. Throne of Blood (1957)
14. Hidden Fortress (1958)
15. Sleeping Beauty (1959)
My List: 9
Seen: 28/72
The Gunslinger45
09-19-16, 01:17 PM
Ned, Vertigo is a contender for the number one spot on the entire list, lots of people on here love it and its generally considered to be one of the greatest works of the decade, I would bet all my money that it reaches the top ten.
Alice in Wonderland could show up soon.
Vertigo is a lock for the top 5 at the least. Could be number 1. Other possibilities are Rear Window and an outside shot for Seven Samurai.
NedStark09
09-19-16, 01:18 PM
Scope Wise While On The Subject Which is better The Searchers or Rio Bravo. I think Searchers is Wayne s best character performance while Rio Bravo everything in the movie was perfect cast wise and score.
Daniel M
09-19-16, 01:20 PM
Vertigo is a lock for the top 5 at the least. Could be number 1. Other possibilities are Rear Window and an outside shot for Seven Samurai.
Agreed, Camo and some others had a little discussion about it recently on the last few pages :)
rauldc14
09-19-16, 01:22 PM
Are we going to get another set of movies today?
Yes. It was supposed to be yesterday but I'm going to post two more later :)
Daniel M
09-19-16, 01:24 PM
Scope Wise While On The Subject Which is better The Searchers or Rio Bravo. I think Searchers is Wayne s best character performance while Rio Bravo everything in the movie was perfect cast wise and score.
I prefer Rio Bravo, but both are great films.
I recently rewatched The Searchers before this list started which increased my opinion even more. I think there are better John Ford Westerns than it though that aren't from the Fifties: Stagecoach and My Darling Clementine.
Miss Vicky
09-19-16, 01:24 PM
No I dont no the collective likes of every MOFO member that collectively as I call it MOFO nation. Its just under my observation Westerns seem too be considered B movies in classic films sometimes and Western films seldom are mentioned unless Leon is mentioned.
You don't have know the tastes of every MoFo to be able to notice a general trend. You've been here over a year, dude, try being a little more observant than that.
Damn few sets ago when i'd seen neither i thought that would be the last but here we are. Really don't like the look of Ben Hur. Even though i've not seen him in much i really don't like Charlton Heston so far, and with the length and subject matter i can't see myself enjoying it. I'd watch the other one.
And damn you people if Kaplan is right and Godzilla has made the top 28 :p
NedStark09
09-19-16, 01:26 PM
Vertigo is a lock for the top 5 at the least. Could be number 1. Other possibilities are Rear Window and an outside shot for Seven Samurai.
My Top 10 Guesses As To How It Will End.
1 Street Car Named Desire
2 12 Angry Men
3 Bridge Over The River Kwai
4 North By North West
5 The Seven Samurai.
6 The Searchers
7 Vertigo
8 High Noon
9 Rear Window
10 Rio Bravo
The Gunslinger45
09-19-16, 01:28 PM
Damn few sets ago when i'd seen neither i thought that would be the last but here we are. Really don't like the look of Ben Hur. Even though i've not seen him in much i really don't like Charlton Heston so far, and with the length and subject matter i can't see myself enjoying it. I'd watch the other one.
And damn you people if Kaplan is right and Godzilla has made the top 28 :p
I can only hope.
I prefer Rio Bravo, but both are great films.
I recently rewatched The Searchers before this list started which increased my opinion even more. I think there are better John Ford Westerns than it though that aren't from the Fifties: Stagecoach and My Darling Clementine.
I really need to rewatch The Searchers at some point. I didn't like it at the time but that was years ago, it was my first Ford and it was the first time i'd ever tried a Western like it. Interested in what i'd think now. Stagecoach is fantastic.
The Gunslinger45
09-19-16, 01:30 PM
Well I have looked over the rest of my list and here is what has shown up, and what has yet to come.
1. Easy top ten, top 5 more then likely. Possible Top 3. Number 1 maybe?
2. Ben-Hur (1959)
3. I would hope Top 10
4. Kiss Me Deadly (1955)
5. Rififi (1955)
6. If this does not make the Top 10 I will quit the internet
7. Easily will make the list. Too many people I know on this forum love this movie.
8. The Ten Commandments (1956)
9. Arthouse Mafia don't fail me! I think this will make it.
10. The Killing (1956)
11. Sansho the Baliff (1954)
12. This will make it.
13. Throne of Blood (1957)
14. Hidden Fortress (1958)
15. Sleeping Beauty (1959)
16. I doubt this will show. If it was, it would have shown up by now,
17. See above
18. I am confident this will show up.
19. This will show. It is by one of the two directors who will dominate this list.
20. This will make it. WAY too many people love this movie for it not to show.
21. This damn well better make it!
22. No show
23. Not gonna show
24. Sadly not going to show
25. No 1 pointer for me. This will make it. I know it will.
Waiting patiently for the next two Raul!
My Top 10 Guesses As To How It Will End.
1 Street Car Named Desire
2 12 Angry Men
3 Bridge Over The River Kwai
4 North By North West
5 The Seven Samurai.
6 The Searchers
7 Vertigo
8 High Noon
9 Rear Window
10 Rio Bravo
That's a surprisingly decent guess for you, no offence. Just mean that you haven't been the most observant like MV was saying.
As much as i'd love it no way is Kwai finishing third, i'd be shocked if it made the top ten. I think it is between Vertigo and Rear Window to win and if it's neither of them i really don't see it being Streetcar.
NedStark09
09-19-16, 01:35 PM
You don't have know the tastes of every MoFo to be able to notice a general trend. You've been here over a year, dude, try being a little more observant than that.
I am bit busy some days too busy too learn the overall film collective of the tastes of the entire thread. Id wish you would pick on someone else for a few days it seems like Im always your pigeon try an strangle for whatever bad mood you are in for that day. I dont know everything about movies and I am betting even the best here dont either. So get off my back and go harrass some poor kids for there candy and leave me alone.
hahaha awesome. So Miss Vicky how do you respond to the reports coming in just now of you strangling pigeons and robbing children?
Miss Vicky
09-19-16, 01:50 PM
I am bit busy some days too busy too learn the overall film collective of the tastes of the entire thread.
But not too busy to stop you from posting personal list thread after personal list thread after personal list thread, or posting about wanting to host a forum wide countdown, or offering to take over hosting the Worst Movies countdown. Right.
Id wish you would pick on someone else for a few days it seems like Im always your pigeon try an strangle for whatever bad mood you are in for that day.
I'll stop calling you out when you stop displaying willful ignorance.
No I dont no the collective likes of every MOFO member that collectively as I call it MOFO nation. Its just under my observation Westerns seem too be considered B movies in classic films sometimes and Western films seldom are mentioned unless Leon is mentioned.
Leon isn't a western though, it's a crime drama about a hitman.
;) :D :docbrown:
MovieMeditation
09-19-16, 01:54 PM
Ben-Hur was #12 on my list.
One of the greatest (if not the greatest) epics of all time. If we are talking the classic sense of the word, this movie got it all. It's biblical, historical and huge in scope. The production and set design is off the roof! Completely breathtaking to watch and disappear into.
I'm a little surprised about The Ten Commandments. I haven't seen it, but everywhere else it seems to be a lesser epic - not bad, definitely not, but I thought Ben-Hur would definitely be above it. I heard a lot of bad about it, but this might be my call to finally see it.
Daniel M
09-19-16, 02:02 PM
Ned, although classic Westerns are not popular with everyone, you'll find that certain groups tend to like certain directors and periods, and often with the greatest films of their respective "groups" there is some overlap with different people liking them. There's quite a few of us who like Ford, quite a few of us who like Hawks, quite a few of us who like John Wayne. I'd say Rio Bravo, The Searchers and High Noon are three of the highest regarded Westerns around these forums, I think it's cool that their all unique and stand strong for their own reasons, they rightfully have a mixture of fans.
Citizen Rules
09-19-16, 02:05 PM
Hey Chuck is the man! (along with Cary, and Jimmy)...I've seen both Ten Commandments (liked) and Ben Hur (can't remember it)....but neither made my list.
rauldc14
09-19-16, 02:12 PM
I never saw The Ten Commandments, but I was surprised it was so high. It was literally in the top 10 at the beginning of receiving lists, along with Ben-Hur.
The Gunslinger45
09-19-16, 02:14 PM
Leon isn't a western though, it's a crime drama about a hitman.
;) :D :docbrown:
I think he meant Leone.
I think he meant Leone.
I tried to make it painfully obvious that I was joking. I have failed!
The Gunslinger45
09-19-16, 02:17 PM
I tried to make it painfully obvious that I was joking. I have failed!
Or I have not had enough caffeine this morning. ;)
NedStark09
09-19-16, 02:35 PM
But not too busy to stop you from posting personal list thread after personal list thread after personal list thread, or posting about wanting to host a forum wide countdown, or offering to take over hosting the Worst Movies countdown. Right.
I'll stop calling you out when you stop displaying willful ignorance.
So I am purposely Stupid then. When you say a person is ignorant your saying they are stupid. I think I am ok not being as brilliant as you think you are. So what if you know all the answers too these questions before I ask them in my head. Id rather be Ignorant dumb then overall rude and nasty.
Omnizoa
09-19-16, 02:52 PM
So I am purposely Stupid then. When you say a person is ignorant your saying they are stupid. I think I am ok not being as brilliant as you think you are. So what if you know all the answers too these questions before I ask them in my head. Id rather be Ignorant dumb then overall rude and nasty.
Ignorant =/= stupid.
Ignorance is just not knowing something. Stupid is not being able to understand it.
In other words, smart people start off ignorant. They just don't stay that way.
Miss Vicky
09-19-16, 03:11 PM
So I am purposely Stupid then. When you say a person is ignorant your saying they are stupid.
:facepalm: Please at least google definitions before you say things that only support my statements. I never said nor implied that you are stupid. Do not put words in my mouth.
Omnizoa
09-19-16, 03:13 PM
:facepalm: Please at least google definitions before you say things that only support my statements. I never said nor implied that you are stupid. Do not put words in my mouth.
To be fair, they are frequently used interchangeably.
The Gunslinger45
09-19-16, 03:15 PM
So... how about the next two movies?
Citizen Rules
09-19-16, 03:16 PM
So... how about the next two movies? That sounds like a good idea:p
Only seen Ben-Hur and, of course, it made my list. Had it at #16.
Miss Vicky
09-19-16, 03:19 PM
To be fair, they are frequently used interchangeably.
Not by me.
NedStark09
09-19-16, 03:27 PM
Well You do more or less express Ignorance Allot when responding too A comment I tend too make. Im gonna ask questions I dont know the answer to and will give an opinion weither its right or even the popular assumption. My greater question does anyone find it odd that both movies were both Biblical and Both Starred Heston. Also In My Opinion The 10 Commandments was always best biblical Heston Movie but In My View The Best Biblical film was The Robe.
Miss Vicky
09-19-16, 03:30 PM
Well You do more or less express Ignorance Allot when responding too A comment I tend too make.
Please explain how I "more or less express ignorance" - if you can explain it - in a private message.
Citizen Rules
09-19-16, 03:34 PM
Can we please leave Ned alone. His predictions (accurate or inaccurate) are just as welcomed as the next persons predictions. He has a right to make them, same as we all do.
Daniel M
09-19-16, 03:35 PM
Whilst it's a bit unusual to see them literally appear one after another, seeing them so close isn't that surprising. Some of the fan base for Ben-Hur could be fans of biblical epics, which means they're almost certain to also like The Ten Commandments. Look at the Gunslinger's list for example. It's the same thing as the Disney films that appeared consecutively, maybe these were childhood favourites that people haven't seen in a while, maybe they're important but hard to distinguish between in the ways you can altogether different films, so they end up close together on individual lists.
That they both contain Heston is more of a question about the films themselves. Apparently Wyler wanted Heston to appear in the film, chances are he was impressed by his performance in The Ten Commandments and the screen presence he brought to these "epic" type of films in general. A few actors turned down the role before Heston accepted it, also probably too because of his familiarity in working in such a production.
Can we please leave Ned alone. His predictions (accurate or inaccurate) are just as welcomed as the next persons predictions. He has a right to make them, same as we all do.
I'm seriously getting sick of people coddling Ned, it is embarrassing. He seems to be holding his own fine without people trying to be heroes by saving him.
Daniel M
09-19-16, 03:40 PM
I don't think people are trying to be malicious towards Ned. I try and respond to his posts thoughtfully and with logical explanations of why things have happened, but I think the frustration from people comes from the fact that he seems to either ignore the posts, or not take on board what is being said.
If something confuses him and he asks a question, fair enough. But then if multiple people try and help him out and explain things to him, and he makes another post extremely similar and pretty much asking the same question, it begins to become irritating in its repetitiveness and unwillingness to take learn from what we're sharing with him.
Miss Vicky
09-19-16, 03:40 PM
Can we please leave Ned alone. His predictions (accurate or inaccurate) are just as welcomed as the next persons predictions. He has a right to make them, same as we all do.
I never denied his right to make predictions. I simply stated that they were based on ignorant assumptions.
If I've crossed a line, the moderators can let me know. Otherwise, as I said, Ned can PM his response.
Citizen Rules
09-19-16, 03:43 PM
It's a sad thing when a group of people have to single out one person and be rude to him.
cricket
09-19-16, 03:45 PM
I thought Ben-Hur was terrific, and was sure it was going to make my list. It didn't quite stay with me like some other movies and was a tough cut.
I saw The Ten Commandments as a kid. I would have watched it again, but until it was mentioned in this countdown, I didn't realize it was popular or even considered very good.
I think that spells doom for Godzilla, assuming Sweet Smell of Success is still coming.
It's a sad thing when a group of people have to single out one person and be rude to them.
Who is doing this? Miss Vicky and Ned had some disagreement or whatever you want to call it, i'd hardly call it a group of people. The sad thing is the exact same people jumping to defend a grown man over the slightest thing every single time when he neither asks or seems to need it. It is horribly condescending whether you realize it or not and i genuinely cringe every single time i see it.
Citizen Rules
09-19-16, 03:49 PM
I'm seriously getting sick of people coddling Ned, it is embarrassing. He seems to be holding his own fine without people trying to be heroes by saving him.Well I'm sick of bullies. Because bullies are just the weakest of the lot...who need to find someone they think is weaker than themselves to harass. Some how they think this will ease their own pain. And make no mistake about it those who bully people on the internet are full of pain.
I'll defend anyone who I think is being mistreated.
Daniel M
09-19-16, 03:49 PM
It's a sad thing when a group of people have to single out one person and be rude to him.
I would honestly say neither of those things have happened. No one has singled himself out, he's constantly repeated posts that contain mistakes and assumptions that the majority of the forum disagree with, which some people have repeatedly sought to point out in an effort to prevent him from making mistakes in the future. I don't know who has been rude to him, Miss Vicky is the only person that he has complained about, and there it is a misunderstanding rather than Miss Vicky trying to be rude to him.
Well I'm sick of bullies. Because bullies are just the weakest of the lot...who need to find someone they think is weaker than themselves to harass. Some how they think this will ease their own pain. And make no mistake about it those who bully people on the internet are full of pain.
I'll defend anyone who I think is being mistreated.
Ned is being bullied? Jesus christ. I'm sure he greatly appreciates this horrible 'he can't defend himself' attitude you extend to him.
Whatever.
cricket
09-19-16, 03:59 PM
So actually Godzilla needs Sweet Smell of Success and Pickpocket not to make it. Only 1 out of those 3 will show. The other 27 are stone cold locks.
The Gunslinger45
09-19-16, 04:01 PM
Of those 3, I would think Godzilla would be the odd man out. I would think Pickpocket would make it.
Miss Vicky
09-19-16, 04:02 PM
I'm a little curious as to whether Godzilla will show. I know it's a widely seen/enjoyed film, but it's not really something that I've seen discussed on the forum and I wonder if it's actually considered a genuinely good movie or if it's more a guilty pleasure.
Pickpocket, Godzilla and Old Yeller won't IMO. I'm still shocked that Kaplan is so sure, does anyone else feel the same as him? I'd of thought its chances were long gone.
The Gunslinger45
09-19-16, 04:05 PM
We shall see eventually. Maybe even today. I don't think Godzilla will get that high
Omnizoa
09-19-16, 04:05 PM
I'm a little curious as to whether Godzilla will show. I know it's a widely seen/enjoyed film, but it's not really something that I've seen discussed on the forum and I wonder if it's actually considered a genuinely good movie or if it's more a guilty pleasure.
I'm doubting it'll show as much as it would be neat to see.
The Gunslinger45
09-19-16, 04:05 PM
Pickpocket, Godzilla and Old Yeller won't IMO. I'm still shocked that Kaplan is so sure, does anyone else feel the same as him? I'd of thought its chances were long gone.
I expected Godzilla to be in the bottom 50 tbh.
I'm not even sure if i've seen Godzilla. I know i've seen some old Godzilla movies when i was a kid but i'm not sure which ones and i don't remember them. I just don't want my nonexistent children growing up in a world where Kaplan is right :p
NedStark09
09-19-16, 04:12 PM
If I am not commenting I am just done with the topic in general really. I never got to express that Rio Bravo is my favorite Western and I was just well had no idea many hear liked it. I mean it was never commented too me how it was or wasn't liked. Until Daniel mentioned it twice.Im not gonna PM anymore flames too MV simply because I cannot explain how you can come off when you use words like Ignorance if you dont know how it sounds then I cannot explain it too you.
Also I am over the topic already and moving on to 28th and 27th movies in the countdown. Im not even mad anymore at MV. Or maybe i just dont care what people think of me. Also I like making lists Its kinda what I do. I might have too many threads but hey its what I do and hey Im minding my own buisness and my nose is clean.
cricket
09-19-16, 04:15 PM
Out of those 3, I'd have to guess it's Sweet Smell of Success that makes it.
NedStark09
09-19-16, 04:16 PM
Godzilla is on topic because its sci fi and there is still time for one more Movie like Sci Fi movie before we get into the certain films. Me personally Id rather Treasure Island Show up now but yet again Im good with Godzilla showing up.
Daniel M
09-19-16, 04:17 PM
If I am not commenting I am just done with the topic in general really. I never got to express that Rio Bravo is my favorite Western and I was just well had no idea many hear liked it. I mean it was never commented too me how it was or wasn't liked. Until Daniel mentioned it twice.Im not gonna PM anymore flames too MV simply because I cannot explain how you can come off when you use words like Ignorance if you dont know how it sounds then I cannot explain it too you.
Also I am over the topic already and moving on to 28th and 27th movies in the countdown. Im not even mad anymore at MV. Or maybe i just dont care what people think of me. Also I like making lists Its kinda what I do. I might have too many threads but hey its what I do and hey Im minding my own buisness and my nose is clean.
Sounds fair enough, I'm sure we can all stop arguing over this disagreement and look forward to the next two films :)
But yeah, I'm certain Rio Bravo will make it Ned, and I'm glad that you're a fan of it. It might be my favourite film, by the way :up:
NedStark09
09-19-16, 04:21 PM
Im telling you I am hoping Rio Bravo does make it for it does benefit me and Godzilla Is showing up because people are thinking its too late for a sci fi flick when its time for the best of the best too appear. Godzilla also is a cult classic and is the king of all monsters. I mean you have the blob and snatchers but godzilla is beyond possible. I say it can happen but what do I know.
So actually Godzilla needs Sweet Smell of Success and Pickpocket not to make it. Only 1 out of those 3 will show. The other 27 are stone cold locks.
There's 31 films left on the list not 30 unless i counted wrong. Think you are forgetting Old Yeller unless you have that as a lock.
Citizen Rules
09-19-16, 04:23 PM
Here's my Top Ten predictions....I don't claim it to be accurate in the order but more or less these are the films I expect to see.
1..12 Angry Men
2..Rear Window
3..Seven Samurai
4..Dial M For Murder
5..All About Eve
6..Vertigo
7..Sunset Boulevard
8..Bridge on the River Kwai
9..Singin' In the Rain
10.Some Like It Hot
I really hope that everybody is right and The Bridge On The River Kwai makes the top ten, but sadly i don't see it.
NedStark09
09-19-16, 04:27 PM
Here's my Top Ten predictions....I don't claim it to be accurate in the order but more or less these are the films I expect to see.
1..12 Angry Men
2..Rear Window
3..Seven Samurai
4..Dial M For Murder
5..All About Eve
6..Vertigo
7..Sunset Boulevard
8..Bridge on the River Kwai
9..Singin' In the Rain
10.Some Like It Hot
Citizens List is why I am not certain on westerns doing well. Rio Bravo and The Searchers Have too Hit in the 20s or teens because while ID love a wayne picture too be in the top 10. I Think Citizens has the more accurate last 10 slots then mine.
Here's my Top Ten predictions....I don't claim it to be accurate in the order but more or less these are the films I expect to see.
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4..Dial M For Murder
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No way, this movie is going to be that high.
Yeah, I'd love it if it were, but I'd be shocked if it got in the top 10-15, even.
I mean, if we don't see it very soon, I'm gonna start to suspect it missed the list completely. I'm not sure it's considered a classic by many. It gets talked about disproportionately here because I never shut up about it.
The Gunslinger45
09-19-16, 04:31 PM
Dial M will show. I am confident of that.
rauldc14
09-19-16, 04:35 PM
Any predictions before I post 28 and 27?
NedStark09
09-19-16, 04:35 PM
Why The Heck Not
My Last 16 Countdown Spots Will Go Like This
1 12 Angry Men
2 North By Northwest
3 All About Eve
4 Streetcar Named Desire
5 Singing In The Rain
6 The Bridge Over The River Kwai
7 Vertigo
8 The Searchers
9 The Seven Samurai
10 Some Like It Hot
11 Rear Window
12 Sunset Boulvd
13 Dial M For Murder
14 High Noon
15 Alice In Wonderland
16 Sweet Smell Of Success
cricket
09-19-16, 04:36 PM
There's 31 films left on the list not 30 unless i counted wrong. Think you are forgetting Old Yeller unless you have that as a lock.
I don't think Old Yeller has a chance now. It was just a guess back then.
Citizen Rules
09-19-16, 04:36 PM
I really hope that everybody is right and The Bridge On The River Kwai makes the top ten, but sadly i don't see it. I agree...I'm not totally sure myself it will make it. But I was thinking of what Mark said about some of the list were from people who didn't really dive into the 50s movies, so that the more popular ones get more points (at least that's what I though he was saying?) So more well known films might place higher than expected.
I think they're both very good but the least of the Disney classics of the '50s, so maybe there will be three more Disney animated coming. Looking at how many people voted for them, I'd say (rightly or wrongly) that many people didn't have enough other movies to vote for. Also, I'd consider them both musicals! :D
The Gunslinger45
09-19-16, 04:39 PM
I predict ... two more movies. Hopefully in the next 20 minutes before I have to go to work.
NedStark09
09-19-16, 04:41 PM
Well Sir Alec has massive pull and most love that film. Hitchcock has allot of power going in but I think Bridge can be in the top 10 or win the whole movie and do recall Crickets list has been mostly right except for Lady and The Tramp.
Yeah, I'd love it if it were, but I'd be shocked if it got in the top 10-15, even.
I mean, if we don't see it very soon, I'm gonna start to suspect it missed the list completely. I'm not sure it's considered a classic by many. It gets talked about disproportionately here because I never shut up about it.
It will make it definitely. It is Hitch's third most popular of the decade here i'm pretty sure and probably fourth overall behind Psycho. As i was saying earlier i think that the users who haven't seen a great amount of 50's movies are likely to have seen and enjoyed some of Hitch's since he is probably the most popular and accessible director of the decade and plenty of the ones who have seen a lot love him anyway. Also The Man Who Knew Too Much that i don't hear mentioned half as much as Dial M finishing so high makes me thing it will have a good placing. I think top 15, and i wouldn't be surprised if it made the bottom half of the top ten.
NedStark09
09-19-16, 04:42 PM
Na Raul likes too post countdown slots either after 6 or before Noon.
I don't think Old Yeller has a chance now. It was just a guess back then.
You know, i figured that out about 2 minutes after i made that post but i didn't want to delete it in case you had already seen it :laugh:
rauldc14
09-19-16, 04:44 PM
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1952, Directed by Fred Zinnemann
213 Points
18 Lists (2nd,8th,8th,10th,11th,11th,12th,12th,12th,14th,15th, 16th,17th,17th,18th,24th,24th,24th)
NedStark09
09-19-16, 04:44 PM
You have been Bashing Old Yeller as a movie getting in for last 3 days. You know your just messing with people
rauldc14
09-19-16, 04:44 PM
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1951, Produced by Walt Disney
215 Points
15 Lists (1st,2nd,2nd,3rd,5th,8th,9th,13th,14th,15th, 16th,17th,21st,24th,25th)
rauldc14
09-19-16, 04:44 PM
Damnit Ned
Daniel M
09-19-16, 04:45 PM
Both movies are pretty good in my opinion but not favourites for me like they are for some.
I agree...I'm not totally sure myself it will make it. But I was thinking of what Mark said about some of the list were from people who didn't really dive into the 50s movies, so that the more popular ones get more points (at least that's what I though he was saying?) So more well known films might place higher than expected.
I do agree with that and it wouldn't be a massive shock if it made it. I just think there's some more popular films likely to make the top ten that you didn't include, like North By Northwest for example, i'd be pretty shocked if that didn't make the top 5 nevermind top 10. Is The Bridge On The River Kwai that popular here? We'll see though it can certainly happen.
The Gunslinger45
09-19-16, 04:48 PM
I have seen both, but voted for neither. Though in hindsight, I should have voted for Alice in Wonderland. Glad it made it though.
2. Ben-Hur (1959)
4. Kiss Me Deadly (1955)
5. Rififi (1955)
8. The Ten Commandments (1956)
10. The Killing (1956)
11. Sansho the Baliff (1954)
13. Throne of Blood (1957)
14. Hidden Fortress (1958)
15. Sleeping Beauty (1959)
My List: 9
Seen: 30/74
High Noon is the film i'd suggest to someone wanting to watch their first old western. It is so simple yet exciting and interesting as well. I like it a lot but it didn't make my list. Alice In Wonderland is loads of fun, top 10 Disney for me but it didn't make my list either.
NedStark09
09-19-16, 04:49 PM
Well High Noon is My 17th and Alice In Wonderland is my 24th slot. I am 4-0 Today and now I am 11-25. Not bad for someone who knows nothing. No wait thats Jon Snow.
Well, i'm not sure if i've seen Alice in Wonderland all the way through (definitely saw bits and pieces as a child) but i have seen High Noon and it made my list, as well. At #17, to be exact.
List: 10/25
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7. La strada
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10. Rififi
11. The Day the Earth Stood Still
12.
13.
14. Touch of Evil
15. Invasion of the Body Snatchers
16. Ben-Hur
17. High Noon
18.
19.
20. From Here to Eternity
21.
22. Stalag 17
23.
24. Strangers on a Train
25.
Daniel M
09-19-16, 04:51 PM
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In a Lonely Place
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My list so far. Greens will make it, reds have missed out.
Seen 36/72 I think.
NedStark09
09-19-16, 04:52 PM
Wait didnt i say High Noon and Alice Would go off today. But I thought it be 30 and 29.
Citizen Rules
09-19-16, 04:52 PM
I would have expected High Noon a bit higher, but than again there's a lot of greats that haven't showed up. It's an awesome western, that doesn't feel like a western at all. I think that was Raul's nom in the 50s Hof and it came in third place.
Alice In Wonderland, I've never seen it. I didn't grow up watching Disney, mainly because when I was a kid there were no DVD players or ever VCRs, so unlike most of you who could watch it as a kid on tape/dvd, I couldn't. I read the book and loved that. I would watch this movie, it looks fun.
cricket
09-19-16, 04:54 PM
High Noon is not a favorite, but I Iike it plenty. Love that theme song.
Alice in Wonderland is a childhood favorite that I haven't seen in years.
NedStark09
09-19-16, 04:55 PM
Whats Interesting is John Wayne Hated High Noon and Rio Bravo was his answer project for High Noon. If everyone loves Rio Bravo then High Noon should be below Rio Bravo and The Searchers
01.Will Make it
02.Will Make it
03.Will Make it
04.Night and Fog
05.Will Make it
06.Will Make it
07.Will Make it
08.Will Make it
09.A Place In The Sun
10.Will Make it
11,Will Make it
12,Will Make it
13,Will Make it
14.Will Make it
15.An Affair To Remember
16.Will Make it
17,Throne of Blood
18.Won't Make It
19.From Here To Eternity
20.Might Make it?
21.Won't Make It
22.Anatomy of a Murder
23.Invasion of the Body Snatchers
24.Will Make it
25.1 Pointer if Raul stops holding it hostage :p
So either 21 or 22/25
Omnizoa
09-19-16, 05:00 PM
1.
2. Alice in Wonderland
3.
4. Duck Amuck
5.
6.
7.
8.
9. Forbidden Planet
10. Lady and the Tramp
11. Sleeping Beauty
12. Cinderella
13.
14. Peter Pan
15.
Glad you had the best 50's Disney highest most likely.
MovieMeditation
09-19-16, 05:07 PM
Not a fan of Alice in Wonderland. Got a review for that one. I'll find it later.
Thought High Noon would be higher... eh, Semi-High Noon it is.
Omnizoa
09-19-16, 05:08 PM
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NedStark09
09-19-16, 05:13 PM
1
2
3 The Ten Commandments
4
5
6
7
8
9Ben-Hur
10
11 Shane
12
13
14 Creature From The Black Lagoon
15 Peter Pan
16 African Queen
17 High Noon
18 Cinderella
19
20Day The Earth Stood Still
21
22 Lady and The Tramp
23
24 Alice In Wonderland.
25
Mr Minio
09-19-16, 05:15 PM
High Noon is a great western movie!
Never seen Alice in Wonderland, but the fact it's above so many masterpieces makes it quite annoying.
NedStark09
09-19-16, 05:16 PM
Sorry Im 10/25 bad math skills
26 Rear Window
25 Some Like It Hot.
yeah i know my list in red had them higher but that list went out the window when High Noon and Alice came off the board.
NedStark09
09-19-16, 05:19 PM
Glad you had the best 50's Disney highest most likely.
Its Not Over Yeller or Treasure Island could still be a surprise and show up. Just means Godzilla or Something else wont thats being expected.
I've seen both films a gazillion times, but they still didn't make my list. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ben-Hur (William Wyler, 1959)
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It's rather interesting that the 1950s began and ended with two gargantuan American epics about Rome during the beginning of the Christian era and that Miklos Rozsa composed the scores to both films, Quo Vadis being the other. 1959 saw Ben-Hur win 11 of its 12 nominations (Room at the Top beat it out for Best Adapted Screenplay) and to this day, that remains tied with Titanic and The Return of the King as the greatest winner of Oscars in a single year. Charlton Heston even won best actor, and even though I thought he was better in Planet of the Apes and The Big Country (another Wyler flick), Chuck does turn in a sincere and extremely-physical performance. The film is often criticized nowadays as being slow as molasses, and I'll admit that the first hour (or about one-fourth) is rather sluggish although it's certainly never boring. This section covers the birth of Christ and the remeeting after many years of Jewish nobleman Judah Ben-Hur (Heston) and his childhood best friend, the Roman Massala (Stephen Boyd). This sets up Judah being thrown into the Roman galleys as a slave and his mother and sister being imprisoned and later becoming lepers. Later on, Judah rescues a Roman general (Jack Hawkins) and becomes his adopted son, as well as the greatest chariot racer in Rome, so that when Judah returns to Jerusalem, he's able to challenge Massala in one of film's all-time classic action scenes.
Besides being about Ben-Hur and the use of 70MM Cinemascope, the film is a low-key presentation of the life of Christ who is occasionally seen in the distance or up close from behind. Jesus never speaks in the film, but his life parallels Ben-Hur's and actually makes sense of all of Judah's trials and tribulations. This is where Ben-Hur draws much of its power since it's one of the few films concerning the Christ which actually shows him actively doing anything without getting into trouble. Just about the biggest thing which Jesus does in this movie is to give Ben-Hur a drink of water when he was tired and thirsty, and this incident stays with Judah's life all the way until the crucifixion where he realizes that Jesus was that man who gave him a will to go on even though he didn't know him and couldn't comprehend why he helped him. Since Ben-Hur is basically a tale of revenge, this parallel story of Jesus and forgiveness just makes the whole thing play out much more complexly, as well as maybe giving your tear ducts a workout. Welshman Hugh Griffith gets extra points for playing an Arab who hires Ben-Hur to ride his white Arabian horses in the arena, and Finlay Currie is another connection to Quo Vadis; here he plays one of the three Wise Men who returns to seek out the grown Jesus and unhappily stumbles upon his horrifying fate.
The Ten Commandments has another gargantuan story with an enormous cast (including Vincent Price & Judith Anderson (reteamed from Laura), Yul Brynner, Edward G. Robinson, Anne Baxter, Yvonne De Carlo, John Derek, Henry Wilcoxon, H.B. Warner (who played Jesus in DeMille's 1927 The King of Kings), John Carradine, Woody Strode, Henry Brandon, Mike Connors, Clint Walker, Richard Farnsworth, Patricia Hitchcock, "Alfalfa" Switzer, Robert Vaughn). It also had a huge budget and impressive special F/X. The dramatics are basically very basic but mostly earnest, OK - hokey, except for some knowing, campy turns by Brynner, Baxter and Robinson. I ate it up as a kid and it's still good entertainment. This should give you a taste. DeMille is the narrator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCFs_PulD8U
Miss Vicky
09-19-16, 05:43 PM
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Alice in Wonderland was never one of my favorite Disney films as a child. As an adult, however, I've really come to appreciate its madness. A very merry un-birthday to Alice, the Hatter, the March Hare, the dormouse, the cheshire cat, the Queen of hearts, and the white rabbit! I had it at #5.
I've not seen High Noon. Westerns are very hit or miss for me so watching it was not a priority.
My Ballot
1. East of Eden (#43)
5. Alice In Wonderland (#27)
7. Lady and the Tramp (#45)
9. Smiles of a Summer Night (#56)
13. Duck Amuck (#89)
16. Rebel Without A Cause (#39)
18. Throne of Blood (#38)
20. Written on the Wind (#82)
21. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (#37)
23. Room at the Top (#73)
Omnizoa
09-19-16, 05:46 PM
Alice in Wonderland was never one of my favorite Disney films as a child. As an adult, however, I've really come to appreciate its madness.
Same, I like it creatively more than anything else.
Omnizoa
09-19-16, 05:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEhRackUV5U
NedStark09
09-19-16, 05:55 PM
I've seen both films a gazillion times, but they still didn't make my list. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The Ten Commandments has another gargantuan story with an enormous cast (including Vincent Price & Judith Anderson (reteamed from Laura), Yul Brynner, Edward G. Robinson, Anne Baxter, Yvonne De Carlo, John Derek, Henry Wilcoxon, H.B. Warner (who played Jesus in DeMille's 1927 The King of Kings), John Carradine, Woody Strode, Henry Brandon, Mike Connors, Clint Walker, Richard Farnsworth, Patricia Hitchcock, "Alfalfa" Switzer, Robert Vaughn). It also had a huge budget and impressive special F/X. The dramatics are basically very basic but mostly earnest, OK - hokey, except for some knowing, campy turns by Brynner, Baxter and Robinson. I ate it up as a kid and it's still good entertainment. This should give you a taste. DeMille is the narrator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCFs_PulD8U
Ironically I have Parting of the Sea as one of my 300 Movie Moments countdown of the ten commandments.
Its Not Over Yeller or Treasure Island could still be a surprise and show up. Just means Godzilla or Something else wont thats being expected.
Seriously doubt either of those will show up and i was saying to Omni that i'm happy he had it highest on his list.
NedStark09
09-19-16, 05:58 PM
I just dont think Alice Should be Higher Then Peter Pan or Cinderella but thats just me.
Omnizoa
09-19-16, 06:00 PM
Seriously doubt either of those will show up and i was saying to Omni that i'm happy he had it highest on his list.
I wasn't sure that was directed at me. Also to the open question as to whether I placed one higher, I didn't, that's all of the Disney films on my list.
Omnizoa
09-19-16, 06:01 PM
I wonder who had Alice at #1.
Omnizoa
09-19-16, 06:04 PM
Mark F it would've been.
Would be my guess.
He's said it's his favourite of the 50's on the site before.
Omnizoa
09-19-16, 06:08 PM
I even consider Alice the best film of the '50s.
That'll do it.
At the 70 mark, I get my first triple, bumps me up to 8.
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Seen: 37/70 (+9)
My List: 8/25 (+3)
4. Pather Panchali (40)
9. Wages of Fear (50)
11. Nights of Cabiria (71)
12. Tokyo Twilight (91)
16. Sansho the Bailiff (34)
18. Rififi (53)
19. Hiroshima, Mon Amour (75)
25. Throne of Blood (38)
But a really rough start to the next set of ten...
0 for 4 so far.
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Chypmunk
09-19-16, 06:17 PM
Seen both, like both, voted for neither - but that's only because High Noon sadly completely slipped my mind when making my list .... those saying it perhaps should have been a little higher can assuredly blame moi :(
Top ten prediction (as that seems to be en vogue at the moment):
1. North By Northwest
2. 12 Angry Men
3. Seven Samurai
4. On The Waterfront
5. Witness For The Prosecution
6. Vertigo
7. A Streetcar Named Desire
8. Singin' In The Rain
9. Sunset Boulevard
10. All About Eve
Friendly Mushroom!
09-19-16, 06:21 PM
I wonder who had Alice at #1.
Sexy had it as his number one for the animations countdown so I guess it is Sexy.
MovieMeditation
09-19-16, 06:21 PM
Write-up of Alice in Wonderland... There is a lot of love for the film here on the forum, but unfortunately I'm not exactly one of them.
Guess it's Disney Classic number 13 for a reason.
MovieMeditation presents...
HIS FILM DIARY 2015
total movie count ........... current day count
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May 22nd
1951
ALICE IN
WONDERLAND
animation
DISNEY CLASSIC no.13
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Im fairly certain this counts as my first ever wander through wonderland,
though I do remember having the Disney-versioned book read aloud when I was a kid
Even though the book had fitting stills from the film, it is far from the same, and the total runtime clocking in at seventy-five minutes couldnt be pressed into the pages of the book in its entirety either. I have seen Burtons version, which doesnt really resemble the classic tale in the best way possible, and then I remember something about a short story based on the original book as well. So it is safe to say that Im as crazily confused as The Mad Hatter, when it comes to finding heads and tails in this whirlwind of wonderlands, that my expectations felt just as bewildered as Alice herself walking through the unknown of a faraway fantasyland
Unfortunately, I wasnt really as impressed with this film as I hoped to be. I definitely know just how beloved this catalogue classic from Disney has become over the years, probably even since its release, but the style of the film was simply a beat I couldnt dance to. Of course I know it is supposed to be purposely off-beat oddity, but I didnt feel like it was the kind I enjoyed watching. It was weird just for the sake of it, while the animators seemed to have been given full freedom to create chaos, which comes of as very incoherent and outbalanced in a few places. Once again, it is obviously meant to be a crazy world and I must admit the the animation itself is sometimes absolutely stunning and constantly creative. But it isnt every set piece and every character that feels followed through. I really enjoyed the flower scene for example, while the twins annoyed the living hell out of me.
In the end this is a beautifully done animated film, with great revolutionary animation from Disney, but the world of wonderland can be a little too exhausting and exasperating to be lost in for too long. I kind of wished the film itself had the tempo of the waistcoat-wearing white rabbit, who is always rapidly running late, instead of the slothful hookah-smoking caterpillar, who is conversing in constant confusion and stretching out stuff longer than needed be. Obviously, this is only to create a clear contrast, since I like both of those characters in the film. Despite the film being a little too much of the good stuff and feeling a little too colorful for a story painting the same picture over and over again, I really do respect the film a lot, and I will probably revisit wonderland at some point again. Who knows, maybe I will end up liking it more a second time, as it was the case with my recent watch of Disneys 101 Dalmatians.
2.5-
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Omnizoa
09-19-16, 06:27 PM
Frankly, back in the day Alice always left me underwhelmed and admittedly, watching it again recently did little to sate my lust for a coherent surrealist narrative, but as what I've come to recognize as a genre of nonsense stories which have gone on to inspire art and storytelling, it's one of the best and it's the perfect material for Disney to flex their inventiveness with which appeals to me as an animator as well.
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Omnizoa
09-19-16, 06:39 PM
Excerpt from my review:
If there's ANY takeaway from Alice as a compelling addition to the medium it's given away in a subtle gesture at the beginning of the movie:
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This isn't a slam against Alice's Adventures Underground, it's an admission that you don't need a traditional narrative to create something compelling or interesting, much like how Fantasia was essentially was just a collection of animations set to classical music.
Alice in Wonderland contains plenty of words, but what it does, arguably better than any other Disney movie to date, is create a world that simultaneously makes no sense, but is so visually, creatively, and thematically indulgent that it excels in taking that world of delusional fantasy from our dreams and trapping it in a bottle.
Miss Vicky
09-19-16, 07:16 PM
Sexy had it as his number one for the animations countdown so I guess it is Sexy.
Sexy had East of Eden at #1.
I like it a little more than him, I think, but for the most part I'm with MM. I am not head over heels about Alice in Wonderland. I watched it recently hoping for an experience as joyful as the one I had with Lady and the Tramp, but was left slightly bored and very underwhelmed. The fact that it is higher than Lady and the Tramp is a damn shame, too.
donniedarko
09-19-16, 08:03 PM
Alice in Wonderland is one of the Disney childhood films I liked the most. Maybe only behind Fantasia.
Nostromo87
09-19-16, 08:14 PM
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Alice in Wonderland and its inventive trippyness came in at #13 on my 50s decade entry ballot ticket certified certificate submission.
My List
6. The Seven Year Itch
9. Horror of Dracula
12. The Creature From The Black Lagoon
13. Alice in Wonderland
18. House of Wax
I mean, MoFo is Wonderland. If we're telling stories about our experience with the Alice in Wonderland, now may be the only time to declare that I fingerblasted this girl in the theater for the remake however many years back. I mean......... I could have left that out like a normal person, but then this post wouldn't have been about the only thing I remember from my Alice in Wonderland Franchise experience. She enjoyed this Alice stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xyspn61ccyE
High Noon is a tense, terse western, played out in close to real time, crisply shot by DP Floyd Crosby (David's father) and propelled throughout by the theme song sung by Tex Ritter (John's father). It's certainly one of the best westerns of the decade with a civics lesson thrown in before the fantastic showdown that occurs after the clock strikes twelve and the train shows up. I didn't have it on my list. Here's the opening with the theme and three of the baddies - Lee Van Cleef, Sheb Wooley ("The Purple People Eater" song) & Robert J. Wilke (Days of Heaven).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKLvKZ6nIiA
As you may know by now, Alice in Wonderland was my #1.
Alice in Wonderland (Clyde Geronomi, Wilfred Jackson, Hamilton Luske, 1951) 4.5http://billsmovieemporium.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/wonderland.jpg
Walt Disney hated this awesome version of the Lewis Carroll novel. He couldn't find anybody to root for and he found the lack of a strong story to be a huge roadblock. All I can say is I'm thankful that he didn't force the animation and writing team to change the incredibly surreal and uproarious content of this, my vote for the greatest traditional animated film ever made. I don't really want to go into how fast-paced and insane this film is, but it's a non-stop assault on the pomposity of logic and staid Victorian England which is also still able to include digs at many modern foibles which humans have in our current day and age, among them being rude and in far too much of a hurry to even say good day. It's also a potent political satire when we get to the Red Queen and how all things must be her way. There are so many wonderfully-drawn and beautifully-voiced characters that it's unfair to single some out, but I have to mention the Cheshire Cat (Sterling Holloway), the Caterpillar (Richard Haydn), the Mad Hatter (Ed Wynn) and the March Hare (Jerry Colonna). The crazy songs are frosting on the cake and a perfect aural counterpoint to the mind-blowing visuals. Some of this movie, especially the incredible opening scene, seems to be almost shot in 3-D.
My List
1 Alice in Wonderland (#27)
2. The Quiet Man (#51)
4. Room at the Top (#73)
8. The Caine Mutiny (#80)
14. People Will Talk (#88)
19. Night and Fog (#54)
21. Oklahoma! (#97)
24. The Big Country (#66)
Nope1172
09-19-16, 09:39 PM
High Noon was my #14!Here was my original review from my review thread:
HIGH NOON
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I recently said in another review that The Searchers was my favorite western of all time. I would like to immediately retract that statement, because soon after writing the review, I saw High Noon.
High Noon is the story of a formal marshall who is shocked to hear that a criminal he once sent off to execution, is coming back for him. He then has only a few hours to recruit as many deputies as he can. The greatest thing about this movie is that it takes place mostly in real time. This was way ahead of its time in 1952 when the film was released. Most of the story follows five different character, the former marshall, his wife, his deputy, his ex-lover, and the men who are waiting to pick up the criminal. The movie switches between all five stories seamlessly, and makes us interested in every one of them. I original applauded The Searchers for being the most straight forward western I had ever seen, and I applaud High Noon for doing exactly the opposite. Gary Cooper played the lead role very well, much better than John Wayne ever has. All of the acting in this film was incredible, especially for its genre. The only problem that I have with this film is that some of the main character look alike, and that confused me.
As of writing, this is the best western I have ever seen. The music, the acting, the writing, the story, everything falls together perfectly. In conclusion, I would definitely recommend this movie to anyone.
4.5
One of my favorite Pre-Leone Westerns. Got in around the middle of my list. Here is my full list so far:
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2.?
3.?
4.?
5. ?
6. Ace in the Hole (44)
7. ?
8. ?
9. ?
10. ?
11. ?
12. The Day the Earth Stood Still (36)
13. ?
14. High Noon (28)
15. ?
16. Strangers on a Train (32)
17. ?
18. Rififi (53)
19. ?
20. ?
21. ?
22. Forbidden Planet (55)
23.?
24. Mon Oncle (67)
25.?
rauldc14
09-19-16, 10:20 PM
Alice in Wonderland is genius. I think it would be a part of my top 100 if I were to make another one. What I love about it is the oddball characters and the creativity that it presents. I had it at 16 but it could have been higher.
High Noon was ten for me. It's a simple yet effect story and it is probably in contention for being one of my favorite Westerns ever. I loved Gary Coopers performance.
edarsenal
09-19-16, 10:20 PM
I had Alice at #15, right behind Peter Pan for me. I also had Harvey on my list. A very endearing flick for me which Mark F picked two excellent lines that truly sum it up. Watched Ten Comandnents damn near every Easter as a kid - didn't make the list. Seen only bits of High Noon and Ben Hur - 2 serious classics I really need to see and finally, have not had the chance to see Strangers on a Train, another I should try to see at some point.
List:
#6 Harvey (31)
#7 Stalag 17 (48)
#14 Peter Pan (59)
#15 Alice in Wonderland (27)
#21 In A Lonely Place (33)
#24 The Killing (52)
Watched: 40/74
I should have still a huge chunk of my list to be popping up (around another 9 or so which should be a solid 2/3 of my list to make it) though I am rather concerned about my #1 and its chances. . .
Guaporense
09-19-16, 10:51 PM
I found Alice in the Wonderland to be a bit arid, I watched it after Jal90 put it very high into his favorite animated films list. I was disappointed.
While High Noon was an ok movie for me.
gbgoodies
09-20-16, 12:35 AM
I watched Ben-Hur and The Ten Commandments many times when I was younger, but neither is a favorite movie for me, so neither movie was on my list.
I've said before that I'm not a fan of westerns, but High Noon is a terrific movie. It's one of the few westerns that I seriously considered for my list, but I just couldn't find room for it. I expected it to be higher than this on the countdown.
I didn't include any Disney movies on my list, but Alice in Wonderland was one of a few that I considered for my list, and it was the closest to making my list. However it got cut in one of the last few rounds of cuts, so it wasn't on my list. I'm not surprised to see it made the countdown, but I didn't think it would make it this high.
dadgumblah
09-20-16, 12:59 AM
Despite seeing almost every Disney animated movie ever, I've never seen Alice in Wonderland. Will have to rectify that someday. I had The Ten Commandments at #5, Ben-Hur at #13, and High Noon at 24.
So, the whittling continues. :(
#3.Harvey (31)
#5.The Ten Commandments (29)
#6.Shane (64)
#8.East of Eden (43)
#12.The Big Country (66)
#13.Ben-Hur (30)
#16.Anatomy of a Murder (35)
#18.The Quiet Man (51)
#24.High Noon (28)
rauldc14
09-20-16, 01:04 AM
I am just glad that Sansho the Bailiff and Alice in Wonderland made it as far as they did in this list. Certainly got it right so far Mofos!
Captain Spaulding
09-20-16, 01:14 AM
If we're telling stories about our experience with the Alice in Wonderland, now may be the only time to declare that I fingerblasted this girl in the theater for the remake however many years back.
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Holden Pike
09-20-16, 08:51 AM
I had Uncle Walt's drug trip for the pre-teen set as my twenty-first selection, giving me ten as we inch up against the top twenty-five. "If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary-wise; what it is it wouldn't be, and what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?"
3. In A Lonely Place (#33)
9. Ace in the Hole (#44)
10. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (#36)
13. The Killing (#52)
14. Harvey (#31)
18. Pickup on South Street (#72)
20. Throne of Blood (#37)
21. Alice in Wonderland (#27)
24. La Strada (#41)
25. The Big Country (#66)
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Horroist
09-20-16, 09:09 AM
2. Pather Panchali (1955)
7. Jalsaghar [The Music Room] (1958)
9. The Wages of Fear (1953)
11. Ugestu (1953)
12. High Noon (1952)
14. Ben-Hur (1959)
15. The Ten Commandments (1956)
17. Les diaboliques (1955)
24. Roman Holiday (1953)
So far: 9/25
Seen: 18/74
Tacitus
09-20-16, 10:18 AM
I've said before that I'm not a fan of westerns, but High Noon is a terrific movie. It's one of the few westerns that I seriously considered for my list, but I just couldn't find room for it. I expected it to be higher than this on the countdown.
At its heart, High Noon is a very tight thriller. Set in the West.
I had it at #8. ;)
Top thirty in such a magnificent decade for films is a good effort, I think.
rauldc14
09-20-16, 02:03 PM
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1957, Directed by Alexander Mackendrick
225 Points
15 Lists (1st,3rd,3rd,6th,7th,7th,10th,11th,15th,15th, 15th,16th,16th,18th,22nd)
rauldc14
09-20-16, 02:04 PM
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1955, Directed by Charles Laughton
226 Points
18 Lists (1st,1st,3rd,3rd,5th,7th,10th,12th,14th,14th,16th, 19th,20th,20th,23rd,24th,25th,25th)
Miss Vicky
09-20-16, 02:04 PM
Seen neither.
The Gunslinger45
09-20-16, 02:08 PM
Seen both, but I only voted for one. Sweet Smell of Success was my number 18.
My List: 10
Seen: 32/76
1. Easy top ten, top 5 more then likely. Possible Top 3. Number 1 maybe?
2. Ben-Hur (1959)
3. I would hope Top 10
4. Kiss Me Deadly (1955)
5. Rififi (1955)
6. If this does not make the Top 10 I will quit the internet
7. Easily will make the list. Too many people I know on this forum love this movie.
8. The Ten Commandments (1956)
9. Arthouse Mafia don't fail me! But I doubt it will show up.
10. The Killing (1956)
11. Sansho the Baliff (1954)
12. This will make it.
13. Throne of Blood (1957)
14. Hidden Fortress (1958)
15. Sleeping Beauty (1959)
16. I doubt this will show. If it was, it would have shown up by now,
17. See above
18. Sweet Smell of Success (1957)
19. This will show. It is by one of the two directors who will dominate this list.
20. This will make it. WAY too many people love this movie for it not to show.
21. This damn well better make it!
22. No show
23. Not gonna show
24. Sadly not going to show
25. No 1 pointer for me. This will make it. I know it will.
rauldc14
09-20-16, 02:11 PM
Seen neither.
You say that a lot, but this is a pairing that I really think you would enjoy.
Think Sweet Smell confirms Godzilla isn't making it. Haven't seen it.
Night of the Hunter would've been my #26, great film. I wrote this about it a few months back:
[The Night of the Hunter (1955) - 3.5+
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Always thought i would like this and i was right, really enjoyed this. Robert Mitchum really was amazing. He was very creepy at times, and surprisingly funny. I really liked how manipulative and just how pure evil he was. I kind of hope he was an inspiration for Kane from Poltergeist 2 that guy terrorized my childhood, and the singing especially reminded me of him. It was also nice seeing Lillian Gish, i only watched a film with her for the first time last month The Wind, so i basically saw both ends of her career as The Wind is a silent film from the 20's. Even the kids weren't bad or annoying. I actually think the kid who played John did a pretty good job. The direction and especially the cinematography was truly superb. It is a real shame Laughton never directed again, he could have been one of the greats going off of this. The one thing i would have done differently was make a bit longer, not much just 10 or 15 minutes. Mostly at Powell's introduction to the family to him getting married to the mother, i felt that was done a bit too quick.
Chypmunk
09-20-16, 02:21 PM
Seen both, voted for neither .... sadly it looks like The Titfield Thunderbolt might not make it now :(
Citizen Rules
09-20-16, 02:25 PM
Sweet Smell of Success, is one of my all time favorite films. And once again...Bingo! it was my #3
I reviewed this one:
Sweet Smell of Success (1957)
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Premise (spoiler free): Sidney Falco (Tony Curtis) is an unscrupulous, two-faced press agent. He will lie, beg, cheat or promise anything to get ahead in the world. His business is promoting clients names by getting them into the newspaper column of the famous Broadway columnist, J.J. Hunsecker (Burt Lancaster). J.J. is an egoistically man who's even more unethical than Falco. J.J. wields great power and can make or break a persons life with his newspaper column.
Review: I love this film. The dialogue snaps and sparkles with clever-tudes. Every word spoken either drives the plot forward or expands the characters and their story to us. The dialogue is fast paced, yet nothing is superfluous. Every word has it's place, every action, every scene is designed to fill in the details. The film is powered by two fine actors both at odds with each other and yet both similar. As the story unfolds we're swept up in this amazing world of power and greed, ballyhoo and empty promises.
Burt Lancaster is amazing as J.J. Hunsecker, the power driven columnist. He's cold, cruel, intelligent and full of self importance. Lancaster really brings this role to life.
But it's Tony Curtis who gives new meaning to dimension in his portrayal of a sleazy operator who calls himself a publicity agent. He's a man who wears many faces and can work every angle. I can't image a better actor for this role than Tony Curtis. Despite how low his character goes and what he's willing to do to the people around him....he's still likable.
The Sweet Smell of Success cinematographer is the celebrated James Wong Howe. Each camera shot is composed to enhance the story. The cinematography never gets in the way of the film. The music score is hot jazz, deep, moody and dangerous. It sets the feel of he movie from the very start of the title credits.
I've seen only a few films that I would deem flawless.
The Sweet Smell of Success is one of them. rating_5
I loved Night of the Hunter too but didn't have room for it on my list (just too many awesome 50s films!) Night of the Hunter is one of the noms in the Film Noir HoF part 2
Reviews by members from links on the first post.
http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1540731#post1540731
Only seen Night of the Hunter and didn't like it.
The Gunslinger45
09-20-16, 02:38 PM
Well I checked out Cricket's list for his guesses for the final 50. After removing the flicks that already showed up, (and two flicks that probably will not show) These I think are the best guesses for what will show up. Which also more then likely dashes my hopes of Ashes and Diamonds showing up. :(
12 Angry Men
400 Blows
A Streetcar Named Desire
All About Eve
Bridge on the River Kwai
Dial M For Murder
Ikiru
North By Northwest
On the Waterfront
Paths of Glory
Rashomon
Rear Window
Rio Bravo
Searchers
Seven Samurai
Seventh Seal
Singin' in the Rain
Some Like It Hot
Sunset Blvd.
Tokyo Story
Touch of Evil
Vertigo
Wild Strawberries
Witness for the Prosecution
Which ones did you take out? Ones that haven't shown up i mean obviously.
The Gunslinger45
09-20-16, 02:45 PM
Godzilla and Old Yeller
Godzilla actually might make it above Pickpocket. All of the others and one of those two is certain then.
The Gunslinger45
09-20-16, 02:51 PM
Godzilla actually might make it above Pickpocket. All of the others and one of those two is certain then.
We shall see. I would love it if Godzilla shows.
cricket
09-20-16, 02:52 PM
Well I checked out Cricket's list for his guesses for the final 50. After removing the flicks that already showed up, (and two flicks that probably will not show) These I think are the best guesses for what will show up. Which also more then likely dashes my hopes of Ashes and Diamonds showing up. :(
12 Angry Men
400 Blows
A Streetcar Named Desire
All About Eve
Bridge on the River Kwai
Dial M For Murder
Ikiru
North By Northwest
Pickpocket
On the Waterfront
Paths of Glory
Rashomon
Rear Window
Rio Bravo
Searchers
Seven Samurai
Seventh Seal
Singin' in the Rain
Some Like It Hot
Sunset Blvd.
Tokyo Story
Touch of Evil
Vertigo
Wild Strawberries
Missing Witness for the Prosecution, so I think no Pickpocket
I'm pretty confident that i end up with 21 of my movies appearing in the top 100.
When are we going to see the one-pointers, raul?
The Gunslinger45
09-20-16, 02:54 PM
Missing Witness for the Prosecution, so I think no Pickpocket
I thought that one showed up...
After a quick check I see that it has not. My bad.
NedStark09
09-20-16, 03:00 PM
Im Telling you Godzilla Is very likely too show up but it has to show by Slot 17 Id say if not It wont happen. I think The last 17 films will fall pretty close to everyone s final lists just the order may be differant. Neither of todays films made my cut of 25.
NedStark09
09-20-16, 03:02 PM
I thought that one showed up...
After a quick check I see that it has not. My bad.
I dont have that movie on my list but I think it should show up at 22 or 19 witness for the prosecution,
cricket
09-20-16, 03:05 PM
I dont have that movie on my list but I think it should show up at 22 or 19 witness for the prosecution,
What's wrong with 20 or 21?
I thought that one showed up...
After a quick check I see that it has not. My bad.
No Godzilla then, those others and Witness are all locks.
The Gunslinger45
09-20-16, 03:20 PM
If that is the case I have 9 more films showing up on this list. A few will be in the top 10.
Daniel M
09-20-16, 03:22 PM
12 Angry Men
400 Blows
A Streetcar Named Desire
All About Eve
Bridge on the River Kwai
Dial M For Murder
Ikiru
North By Northwest
On the Waterfront
Paths of Glory
Rashomon
Rear Window
Rio Bravo
Searchers
Seven Samurai
Seventh Seal
Singin' in the Rain
Some Like It Hot
Sunset Blvd.
Tokyo Story
Touch of Evil
Vertigo
Wild Strawberries
Witness for the Prosecution
I have absolutely no doubt that these are the remaining films, so now it's just a matter of placement :)
Seen both of the last pair, both are very good or great films. Night of the Hunter gets about 3.5 from me, although would be higher based on direction and performances, some elements I feel are a bit silly, but maybe I'll love it on a rewatch. I considered Sweet Smell of Success for my list, but the fact I saw it ages ago and just the once probably prevented its inclusion, from what I remember its a razor sharp written film with great performances too.
donniedarko
09-20-16, 04:00 PM
Night of the Hunter I watched after the list started, but it would've made my list. Great experimental American cinema.
I have absolutely no doubt that these are the remaining films, so now it's just a matter of placement
Yeah, take that Kaplan :p
Two more good ones which didn't make my list.
Sweet Smell of Success (Alexander Mackendrick, 1957) 3.5
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This film, director Mackendrick's first American movie, was such a box-office disaster that he had a difficult time receiving a directorial credit after it. Somehow (probably rightly so), it's now considered an acid-tongued masterpiece with awesome credits to die for. First off, many people, at least those who like acid tongues, believe that Ernest Lehman's script is incredibly quotable. James Wong Howe's dark cinematography and Elmer Bernstein's jazzy score are now considered the epitome of film noir. And Burt Lancaster's gossip columnist J.J. Hunsecker and Tony Curtis's press agent Sidney Falco often duke it out as the scummiest, most-backstabbing characters ever. If you've never heard of this film, I wouldn't be surprised, but if you have and you still haven't watched it, make sure you rectify it ASAP. In truth, the plot is rather simplistic, and the lead characters, on the surface, are so unlikable that maybe you shouldn't watch it. But then again, if this film was really 20-40 years ahead of its time and bred all the Scorsese films and, later on, the Tarantino films, maybe you owe it to yourself to watch how things were done long ago, in a galaxy far, far away.
The Night of the Hunter is a fairy tale (or maybe a 20th century Bible story) with appropriately artistic B&W tableaux photography by Stanley Cortez (The Magnificent Ambersons). The story and the music are both a simple battle of Good vs. Evil with kindly caregiver Lillian Gish and her soothing hymns going up against serial killer Robert Mitchum and his wolf in preacher's clothing and his blaring attack music. Gish cares for a brother and sister when their parents (Shelley Winters and Peter Graves) meet their fates. The expressionistic sets, lighting and photography are reminiscent of something by Murnau. This was the only film directed by acting giant Charles Laughton (Witness for the Prosecution, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Hobson's Choice).
cricket
09-20-16, 05:02 PM
I thought Sweet Smell of Success was very good, and Night of the Hunter just ok. I think I may have just had a bad viewing with the latter, so I plan on watching it again.
Tacitus
09-20-16, 05:16 PM
Night of The Hunter squeaked on to my list at #25.
It was either part of Alex Cox's seminal Moviedrome project (the thing which got me seriously into cinema) or got shown on TV around that time.
EDIT - Looks like it wasn't shown as part of Moviedrome (http://www.kurtodrome.net/moviedrome.htm), but Night of The Hunter would have fitted the series perfectly: A well-made, interesting, ahead of its time B movie. ;)
Citizen Rules
09-20-16, 05:38 PM
I can think of several well known sci fi films from the 50s that have not shown up yet. I'm getting a bit worried.:shifty:
Daniel M
09-20-16, 05:40 PM
I can think of several well known sci fi films from the 50s that have not shown up yet. I'm getting a bit worried.:shifty:
If any films you're thinking of aren't on the list Gunslinger posted that I quoted further up this page, then I'm sorry to say that they're not going to make it. What films are you worried about, out of interest?
Citizen Rules
09-20-16, 05:50 PM
If any films you're thinking of aren't on the list Gunslinger posted that I quoted further up this page, then I'm sorry to say that they're not going to make it. What films are you worried about, out of interest? The Incredible Shrinking Man, The Fly, The War of the Worlds. I doubt they will make it now but I had expected them at the bottom of the list.
Sweet Smell Of Success was my #10, High Noon my #16. Night Of The Hunter has its moments but I don't love it like everyone else.
I am pretty sure a couple of mine are not going to show which shocks me.
Miss Vicky
09-20-16, 05:58 PM
If Gunslinger's prediction is correct, 11 more from my list will show.
dadgumblah
09-20-16, 07:14 PM
Dang! The Night of the Hunter was my #1 and I was beginning to get worried that it wouldn't make it at all as nobody was talking it up much on this thread. I think it's Robert Mitchum's best role and is just full of great cinematography, hidden Easter Eggs, and mood aplenty. Love this movie.
Haven't seen The Sweet Smell of Success all the way through, just in bits and pieces so it didn't make my list. Will watch one day.
Friendly Mushroom!
09-20-16, 07:14 PM
Has anyone mentioned yet that this thread is still not labeled important even though we are almost 80 percent done?
Friendly Mushroom!
09-20-16, 07:14 PM
Also Night of the Hunter is the worst film in the countdown.
Has anyone mentioned yet that this thread is still not labeled important even though we are almost 80 percent done?
Well it's never going to fall very far anyway so i don't think it is that important for it to be labelled important.
It is slightly disappointing that the tradition of it ending up in Members Reviews hasn't continued though :D
SilentVamp
09-20-16, 08:13 PM
Well, at least a few more of my movies have finally made it to the countdown (and where they placed on my list):
Anatomy of a Murder - #23
Strangers On a Train - #5
Harvey - #3
High Noon - #11
edarsenal
09-20-16, 08:22 PM
Night of the Hunter is THE movie I think of when I think of Mitchum. It was #12 on my list.
Never saw Sweet Smell of Success but definitely would like to though I have trouble watching Lancaster - I just see someone stumbling through a part and trying to hide the fact. Not sure why, I just do.
List:
#6 Harvey (31)
#7 Stalag 17 (48)
#12 Night of the Hunter (25)
#14 Peter Pan (59)
#15 Alice in Wonderland (27)
#21 In A Lonely Place (33)
#24 The Killing (52)
Watched: 41/76
Harry Lime
09-20-16, 08:54 PM
I had The Night of the Hunter pretty high. I'm not at home and I can't seem to check my sent box on mobile so I don't know for sure. Anyway it's an amazing film. Sweet Smell of Success is quality too and I could definitely go for a rewatch since it's been a while.
rauldc14
09-20-16, 09:08 PM
Also Night of the Hunter is the worst film in the countdown.
No. Cinderella or African Queen.
Omnizoa
09-20-16, 09:11 PM
It's good to see Cinderella get some hate for once even if it isn't a terrible movie.
Harry Lime
09-20-16, 09:14 PM
Also Night of the Hunter is the worst film in the countdown.
Not you're the worst film in the countdown. Think about it.
rauldc14
09-20-16, 09:14 PM
It's good to see Cinderella get some hate for once even if it isn't a terrible movie.
It's not terrible. Just average.
This may be the first countdown without a legitimate terrible movie for me.
Harry Lime
09-20-16, 09:15 PM
Also that plus rep was an accident. I thought I was negative repping you but then remembered Yoda got rid of that years ago to appease the liberals on the site.
cricket
09-20-16, 09:20 PM
My least favorites so far are The Seven Year Itch, The Music Room, and Mon Oncle. There's one coming I didn't care much for either.
donniedarko
09-20-16, 09:27 PM
The Music Room is my least favorite from the list.
Harry Lime
09-20-16, 09:30 PM
My least favourite will definitely be the extremely overrated 12 Angry Men.
My least favourite will definitely be the extremely overrated 12 Angry Men.
...and now there are 13.
Citizen Rules
09-20-16, 09:57 PM
My least favourite will definitely be the extremely overrated 12 Angry Men. Now when I said that, all hell broke lose:p
No. Cinderella or African Queen.
Cinderella definitely and it is a terrible movie.
Miss Vicky
09-20-16, 10:45 PM
Cinderella definitely and it is a terrible movie.
Cinderella is not good, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's terrible. I think Peter Pan is worse.
Ordet is probably my least favorite so far, but I know others consider it a masterpiece.
rauldc14
09-20-16, 10:49 PM
I can barely remember the second half of Peter Pan. I look forward to a rewatch. Yes, I wasn't keen on Ordet either. But I think I gave it 6.5/10
The Gunslinger45
09-20-16, 10:54 PM
For me it is La Strada. Fellini just does nothing for me. By no means a poor director, I just am just left unimpressed by his work. And I have seen La Strada, 8 1/2, and Amarcord.
Miss Vicky
09-20-16, 10:55 PM
Yes, I wasn't keen on Ordet either. But I think I gave it 6.5/10
I rated it 2.5. I must've been feeling generous.
Cinderella is not good, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's terrible.
I think it is, it is one of my least favourite films ever. When i rewatch the classic disneys with my Nephews/Nieces at most i'll feel indifferent towards one with the exception of Cinderella which i can't think of a single thing decent about. And yes that's what i say exactly to all of them, "man you have horrible taste children" is usually what i say instead of goodbye when their mum picks them up.
The Blob and Alice in Wonderland are my least faves so far.
rauldc14
09-20-16, 11:24 PM
The Blob and Alice in Wonderland are my least faves so far.
:tsk:
Miss Vicky
09-20-16, 11:30 PM
The Blob was decent. Alice in Wonderland is very good.
The Blob was decent. Alice in Wonderland is very good.
That's what you think.
Guaporense
09-20-16, 11:41 PM
The Blob and Alice in Wonderland are my least faves so far.
Agreed on Alice the Wonderland, it's a very arid film indeed, as the main character behaves like a robot and the others are nonsensical. Haven't watched the other one.
Omnizoa
09-20-16, 11:50 PM
Agreed on Alice the Wonderland, it's a very arid film indeed, as the main character behaves like a robot and the others are nonsensical.
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rauldc14
09-20-16, 11:54 PM
A very merry unbirthday to Guap
Omnizoa
09-20-16, 11:59 PM
Funny considering I could describe the entire cast of Madoka Magicka as nonsensical and they're not supposed to be that way.
I definitely don't have a problem with the film or even it's placement here, just am not crazy about it personally.
rauldc14
09-21-16, 12:11 AM
Here's what I said about Alice in Wonderland when it showed in the animation top 100:
Alice in Wonderland was on my list at NUMBER 12 , but if I were able to redo my list I think I would put it around 6 or so, maybe even challenging for a top 5 spot. It's definitely my favorite classic Disney movie of all time.
What I like about it most is the rich vibrant colors and everything that is brought life. It is on par with a film like Wizard of Oz and Spirited Away as far as the imagination of a film goes. Another thing, I seem to be a sucker for adventure films and this is a deep dark adventure indeed. Lewis Carrolls book is brought to the screen in the most imaginable way possible. I've read the book before, but the film is much trippy-ish, in my opinion.
As SC stated, the film has very interesting characters. First of, you have Alice herself, who is very interesting surely, but nearly every minor character is in some way fascinating to me. It's interesting that SC hated Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum, because actually the Walrus and the Carpenter is one of my favorite parts of the film.
And in fact, that would be my favorite part of the film if I wasn't such a huge film of the Cheshire Cat. His parts are a hoot and a half. My favorite part is the following:
Cheshire Cat: Oh by the way, if you'd really like to know, he went that way.
Alice: who did?
Cheshire Cat: The White Rabbit
Alice: He did?
Cheshire Cat: He did what?
Alice: Went that way.
Cheshire: Who did?
Alice: the white rabbit
Cheshire: what rabbit?
Alice: but didn't you just say. I mean, oh dear.
Cheshire Cat: Can you stand on your head?
There's so much that I could truly say, I mean I love croquet too, I love the Mad Hatter and March Hare, but I'd be here all day talking about it. I love, "well! there goes Bill". I love the Monraths. Simply put, I thought this film really should have made the top 25. I doubt my low billing affected it that much, but hopefully it wasn't to close to a few of these next ones that are coming up. I'd like to see this one do well on the fifties list and well.
The Gunslinger45
09-21-16, 12:11 AM
To be fair, nonsensical is kinda the whole schtick of Alice in Wonderland. Both book and film.
Boy I really riled you guys up didn't I? :p
gbgoodies
09-21-16, 12:29 AM
I've seen both Sweet Smell of Success and The Night of the Hunter, and I liked both movies, but I didn't love either. They're both very good movies, but neither made my list.
I've seen 60 of 76 movies.
My List:
2. An Affair to Remember (1957)
4. Oklahoma! (1955)
8. The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951)
10. Strangers on a Train (1951)
11. Harvey (1950)
Frightened Inmate No. 2
09-21-16, 01:15 AM
In a Lonely Place was my #18, Strangers on a Train was my #21, The Night of the Hunter was my #10, and Sweet Smell of Success was my #6. these last two were definitely the best combination of films we've had in a single day.
haven't seen the two biblical epics and i don't think i will anytime soon, but i think there's a chance i would enjoy them. i think i'd like high noon, although i've heard mixed things about it. harvey looks good. sansho the bailiff is good, although i seem to be the only person on the planet who doesn't love it. i really wanted to love it, but it didn't make me feel anything. maybe it would be better on rewatch. haven't seen alice in wonderland since i was a kid, but i used to watch it quite a bit on vhs.
i also watched ace in the hole for the first time the other day and it was great. probably would've been in the #26-30 range on my list.
1. Bigger than Life
2. top 5
3. top 10
4. top 5
5. not gonna show
6. Sweet Smell of Success
7. soon
8. Johnny Guitar
9. Pickup on South Street
10. The Night of the Hunter
11. Rebel Without a Cause
12. not gonna show
13. top 20
14. A Face in the Crowd
15. top 6
16. top 5
17. not gonna show
18. In a Lonely Place
19. not gonna show
20. Anatomy of a Murder
21. Strangers on the Train
22. not gonna show
23. soon
24. soon
25. maybe a one-pointer
seen 30 so far, and i believe i've seen 18 of the remaining films that are likely to show. the blob is probably my least favorite.
Frightened Inmate No. 2
09-21-16, 01:15 AM
also, how the hell is gentlemen prefer blondes not gonna be on this list?
Nemanja
09-21-16, 03:36 AM
Sweet Smell Of Success was my 15
My list:
4 Ordet #46
5 Marty #100
8 Ace in the Hole #44
12 Umberto D. #61
15 Sweet Smell Of Success #26
17 From Here To Eternity #76
18 Harvey #31
19 A Face in the Crowd #49
23 People Will Talk #88
24 Horror of Dracula #79
donniedarko
09-21-16, 03:51 AM
Funny considering I could describe the entire cast of Madoka Magicka as nonsensical and they're not supposed to be that way.
:up:
the samoan lawyer
09-21-16, 09:27 AM
Seen 64/76 and 11 from my list so far.
10. Nights of Cabiria
11. Bigger than Life
14. Anatomy of a Murder
16. Sweet Smell of Success
17. Ace in the Hole
18. Pather Panchali
20. Pickup on South Street
21. Hidden Fortress
23. Wages of Fear
24. Rififfi
25. Night and Fog
Also, no love for 3:10 to Yuma???
Also, no love for 3:10 to Yuma???
Doesn't look like it. Me, I like it a lot. It's way better than that horrible remake. I also like it better than The Searchers and High Noon. But that doesn't mean it made my list.
Miss Vicky
09-21-16, 04:03 PM
Doesn't look like it. Me, I like it a lot. It's way better than that horrible remake. I also like it better than The Searchers and High Noon. But that doesn't mean it made my list.
I thought Mangold's version was much better, actually. :shrug:
In fact, it used to be in my top ten.
I had the original 3:10 on my preliminary list, but ultimately cut it because - while I enjoyed most of the movie - I absolutely HATED the ending.
NedStark09
09-21-16, 04:14 PM
Am I the only person who liked Hondo as well as 3:10 To Yuma. The 50s had allot of good westerns in them not just High Noon, Rio Bravo and The Searchers.
Daniel M
09-21-16, 04:33 PM
I'm more disappointed there's no Anthony Mann Westerns.
Chypmunk
09-21-16, 04:34 PM
I'm still hoping The Good The Bad And The Ugly is gonna show up.
rauldc14
09-21-16, 04:50 PM
Prediction time folks
MovieMeditation
09-21-16, 04:52 PM
Rio Bravo
400 Blows
I'm still hoping The Good The Bad And The Ugly is gonna show up.
Yeah, it's a movie so great that it deserves being represented on two decades!!!!
rauldc14
09-21-16, 04:55 PM
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1957, Directed by Billy Wilder
228 Points
17 Lists (3rd,5th,6th,7th,8th,8th,9th,9th,13th,13th, 14th,14th,18th,20th,21st,22nd,24th)
rauldc14
09-21-16, 04:55 PM
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1957, Directed by Ingmar Bergman
228 Points
17 Lists (3rd,4th,5th,5th,5th,6th,10th,10th,11th,13th,16th, 18th,18th,19th,23rd,23rd,25th)
Daniel M
09-21-16, 05:00 PM
Witness for the Prosecution is alright but I don't love it or even like it too much, good direction but I have problems with it, mainly with its story actually.
Wild Strawberries I watched after I sent my list, probably wouldn't have made it but it was a great film.
MovieMeditation
09-21-16, 05:06 PM
Dang it! I almost went for Wild Strawberries as one of my predictions... oh well, I suck at such things anyways.
NedStark09
09-21-16, 05:08 PM
IDK I have seen both and just feel with limited slots left they could have been lower on the list compared to films chosen earlier then some others.
I really considered Wild Strawberries, but just couldn't find room on my list.
Chypmunk
09-21-16, 05:30 PM
Witness For The Prosecution is too low imo - that was my #6.
Not sure if I've ever seen Wild Strawberries or not tbh - needless to say it wasn't on my list.
Miss Vicky
09-21-16, 05:41 PM
Both excellent movies and both on my ballot - Wild Strawberries (one of three Bergmans to make my ballot) was #4 and Witness for the Prosecution was #8.
From my Movie Log:
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Wild Strawberries (Smultronstället) (Ingmar Bergman, 1957)
Imdb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050986/)
Date Watched: 07/24/16
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: 50s List
Rewatch: No
As someone who connects with film more on an emotional level than a technical one, I really appreciated this tale of forgiveness and redemption. Although the imagery was at times haunting and unsettling, the strength of Wild Strawberries lies in the performances, particularly Victor Sjöström who plays the lead.
Many films I've seen from this era suffer from overly theatrical and unnatural performances. I find this type of acting both distracting and irritating, but here Sjöström's Isak Borg feels real and I had no trouble engaging with his transformation from coldness to warmth. For the most part, the supporting actors did quite well too and I particularly enjoyed Jullan Kindall as Agna, Borg's housekeeper, and the (stunningly beautiful) Ingrid Thulin as Marianne, Borg's daughter in law.
This was the eighth Bergman film I've seen, and while I wouldn't go so far as to call him a favorite, I do enjoy his work and I look forward to watching his other 1950s offerings.
4
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Witness for the Prosecution (Billy Wilder, 1957)
Imdb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051201/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Date Watched: 08/06/16
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: 50s List, rauldc14's recommendation
Rewatch: No
I knew pretty much nothing about this film going in and, judging by the title, was expecting a dull courtroom drama. Instead I was treated to an engaging story with a rather generous and unexpected dose of comedy. The main cast of characters are all quite likable and the dialogue is well written and often witty, making for a very entertaining film.
However, the comedy bit went a little too far at times and threatened to push the movie into the realms of cheesy and hokey. This is especially true of the character of Miss Plimsoll, the nurse who treats Barrister Roberts like a child, and also true of the scene involving a cockney woman and some last minute evidence.
But this was a relatively minor annoyance in an otherwise very good film.
4
My Ballot
1. East of Eden (#43)
4. Wild Strawberries (#23)
5. Alice In Wonderland (#27)
7. Lady and the Tramp (#45)
8. Witness for the Prosecution (#24)
9. Smiles of a Summer Night (#56)
13. Duck Amuck (#89)
16. Rebel Without A Cause (#39)
18. Throne of Blood (#38)
20. Written on the Wind (#82)
21. Invasion of the Body Snatchers (#37)
23. Room at the Top (#73)
Two more from my list. I think Witness For The Prosecution is one of the great scripts. Funny and I love that ending. Laughton's character is written perfectly and he plays his character great. I need another watch to see where it goes but it is 100 material for me certainly.
Strawberries is very good. I cooled on it with a second watch, still strong enough for my fairly weak list though.
The Gunslinger45
09-21-16, 07:06 PM
I voted for neither, but I have seen Wild Strawberries.
My List: 10
Seen: 33/78
1. Easy top ten, top 5 more then likely. Possible Top 3. Number 1 maybe?
2. Ben-Hur (1959)
3. I would hope Top 10
4. Kiss Me Deadly (1955)
5. Rififi (1955)
6. If this does not make the Top 10 I will quit the internet
7. Easily will make the list. Too many people I know on this forum love this movie.
8. The Ten Commandments (1956)
9. I doubt it will show up.
10. The Killing (1956)
11. Sansho the Baliff (1954)
12. This will make it.
13. Throne of Blood (1957)
14. Hidden Fortress (1958)
15. Sleeping Beauty (1959)
16. I doubt this will show. If it was, it would have shown up by now,
17. See above
18. Sweet Smell of Success (1957)
19. This will show. It is by one of the two directors who will dominate this list.
20. This will make it. WAY too many people love this movie for it not to show.
21. This damn well better make it!
22. No show
23. Not gonna show
24. Sadly not going to show
25. No 1 pointer for me. This will make it. I know it will.
edarsenal
09-21-16, 07:18 PM
Witness was #18 for me. I wasn't too sure if this was going to make it or not - glad it did
List:
#6 Harvey (31)
#7 Stalag 17 (48)
#12 Night of the Hunter (25)
#14 Peter Pan (59)
#15 Alice in Wonderland (27)
#18 Witness for the Prosecution (24)
#21 In A Lonely Place (33)
#24 The Killing (52)
Watched: 42/78
cricket
09-21-16, 07:29 PM
I watched Witness for the Prosecution a couple times, and I had it at #9. Very entertaining and I loved the performances.
Wild Strawberries is mid-level Bergman for me. That means I thought it was very good.
My list-
2. Pather Panchali (1955) #40
4. An Affair to Remember (1956) #42
5. The Big Country (1958) #66
6. Shane (1953) #64
8. Written on the Wind (1956) #82
9. Witness for the Prosecution (1957) #24
10. Smiles of a Summer Night (1955) #56
11. Ordet (1955) #46
12. From Here to Eternity (1953) #76
16. Rififi (1956) #53
17. The Hidden Fortress (1958) #69
18. The Quiet Man (1952) #51
20. Room at the Top (1959) #73
24. The Cranes are Flying (1957) #98
donniedarko
09-21-16, 07:37 PM
Witness For the Prosecution is one of the highest films on my watch list. Love court room films and this one looks right up my alley. Will try to watch it soon. Wild Strawberries was the higher of the two Bergmans on my list (who I thought would be more represented on this list). The film is deeply humanist, Deadite (RIP) once said that if you don't feel anything while watching Wild Strawberries you might as well be dead. One of maybe five films I think that's a fair statement on.
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My List:
5.Les Diaboliques
6. Wild Strawberries
8. People Will Talk
11. Duck Amuck
14. In a Lonely Place
19. The Klilling
23. The Cranes are Flying
25. Kiss me Deadly
Forgot to include
Night and Fog
Mr Minio
09-21-16, 08:08 PM
Both Witness for the Prosecution and Wild Strawberries are total masterpieces!
Harry Lime
09-21-16, 09:01 PM
Everything's a masterpiece! 9 thumbs up!
Mr Minio
09-21-16, 10:08 PM
I might've been wrong when I said there are 300 masterpieces. There's much more than this. Actually, more than 1000! And The Room is the greatest of them all.
Citizen Rules
09-21-16, 10:21 PM
I don't like Wild Strawberries and I haven't liked any of the Bergman films I've seen.
On the other hand I do like Billy Wilder and Witness for the Prosecution is a fine film, but didn't make my list.
gbgoodies
09-22-16, 01:17 AM
I thought Witness for the Prosecution made my list, but I just checked and it was in my final set of cuts, so it just missed my list. I thought it would have been higher on the countdown even without my vote.
I've seen Wild Strawberries, and it's one of the few foreign films that I liked, but it didn't make my list.
I've seen 62 of 78 movies so far.
Witness for the Prosecution is way to low! This movie is a masterpiece. Had it at #3. Wasn't a fan of Wild Strawberries.
I didn't vote for either, even if Wild Strawberries is in the mafo MoFo 100. I wrote this in response to Daniel thinking Witness for the Prosecution was over-the-top and the ending was ridiculous.
Well, it is based on an Agatha Christie play which was a huge hit, intentionally highly-theatrical and had a crowd-pleasing triple twist. I'll admit [the ending's] too neat and not rationally-believable but neither are the earlier twists. Wilder intentionally heightened the artifice of the play to increase the entertainment quotient and lull the audience into believing it was ahead of the play/movie. Now, what I think is most interesting about this ending vis-ā-vis the first scene with Tyrone Power is Laughton's use of his monocle as a reflecting light device. In the early scene, Laughton used it to "verify" Power's veracity by shining it in his face. In the ending he almost seems to be using it to draw attention to the murderous "evidence". He also declares what we really saw (an execution) and prepares to conduct his next case with his latest defendant. Laughton comes across as a gleeful justice-issuer although I'm not sure it's intentional, but I wouldn't put it past the darkly-cynical Wilder. :)
Just watched it again - still my favorite Bergman, full of beautiful imagery, including my fave nightmare at the beginning and the shot of his parents at the end.
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