Question about the gun that wouldn't fire in Schindler's List (1993)

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Basically there is the scene when Goeth wants to execute the rabbi character, and the gun won't fire. Goeth pulls back on the guns bolt and let's it go forward to reload the next shot. Won't fire, Goeth tries to reload the next shot again and again and it won't fire.

However, when Goeth was pulling the bolt back and forth, no cartridges were coming out of the gun. The gun was empty therefore, wasn't it? So didn't Goeth realize that the reason why both his pistols wouldn't fire is because they were both empty?



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I'm not really sure how accurate this is but...


"the magazine was not letting a round chamber. Schindler was in charge of those parts including shell casings for mortars. He went around messing with the machines calibration so no mag or rounds fired correctly."
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*ironpony watches scene in which a Jewish man narrowly survives execution*

“What’s up with the Nazi’s gun?”



I think Ironpony meant why couldnt Goeth figure out what was going on.

I think the answer to that would be that Goeth was so blinded by rage and hatred he couldn't figure out something obvious. He seemed to get off on murdering the jews, so he was unable to 'get off' in that moment, infuriating him.



I'm not really sure how accurate this is but...


"the magazine was not letting a round chamber. Schindler was in charge of those parts including shell casings for mortars. He went around messing with the machines calibration so no mag or rounds fired correctly."
But Schindler didn't get into producing munitions until later into the movie. At this point, his factory was just manufacturing pots and pans, and enamelware and things like that. So why would two guns jam by total coincidence at the same time?

I thought the nazis had good fire arms at the time.



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Divine intervention obviously.

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Not sure if I'm remembering correctly, but doesn't another Nazi grab the gun after Goeth gives up on it and either examine it or try to fire it at the Rabbi himself?



Yeah, part of the problem with these questions is that usually there's an obvious answer that was just missed or is forgotten, and nobody feels like rewatching the film to confirm it. That's happened to me a few times with one of the many "isn't this a plot hole?" question threads.



I'm with lostonmulholland haha

I just watched this movie recently and was thinking the same thing about this part though.



The fact that Goeth got off on killing is evident in the film.
And your theory on the gun was good - but (after reviewing the clip) it doesn't explain the two other Nazi's (who don't appear overly frustrated) unable to make the TWO guns work or figure out what's wrong with them. One gun jamming would be understandable, but two is a bit of a coincidence.

So the question is: did Speilberg mean for this to suggest divine intervention since it's a coincidence that pushes the boundaries of belief?



I think I just caught another goof that I would have never noticed if I hadn't watched the clip again...

The second handgun Goeth pulls out of his pocket is - well, I don't know what they're called - but it's a small, smooth, compact cartridge weapon. Yet when he drops that gun on the ground it appears to be a revolver with a longer barrel, and when the other Nazi picks it up and tries to fire it in the air it looks like a revolver complete with a cylinder.

Take a look and let me know what you think.



I think I just caught another goof that I would have never noticed if I hadn't watched the clip again...

The second handgun Goeth pulls out of his pocket is - well, I don't know what they're called - but it's a small, smooth, compact cartridge weapon. Yet when he drops that gun on the ground it appears to be a revolver with a longer barrel, and when the other Nazi picks it up and tries to fire it in the air it looks like a revolver complete with a cylinder.

Take a look and let me know what you think.

There are a few 'goofs' going on in the scene that I noticed.



Honestly, I've always just seen this scene as audience manipulation by Spielberg. I think it's hinting at divine intervention while also showing the evil of Goeth. The scene was tense as hell the first time I saw this film, and I was relieved that he didn't get shot, but other than holding the audience in suspense, I'm not sure what else Spielberg was trying to do or tell us here. Or how I feel about it, honestly.



Which thing are you asking about: the gun not firing, or the character's reaction to it?
The gun not firing, as I was wondering why the character didn't realize the gun was empty. But now someone said a catridge would not load into the chamber so that makes sense.

I thought it was empty since no catridges were spitting out of the side.

Spielberg does that in the shower scene as well, where you think someone is going to die, then they don't and they are fine after.



It happening with 2 seperate guns was showing it to be divine intervention. When I first saw the scene I took it as that and that the cold weather made the guns freeze up.

Is there a link also telling of this occurence or saying it never happened?