Music! What makes your blood boil?

lol. Gotta go. Have gun guys.

You weren't even alive in the 70's m8.

BTW @Camo, I'm sorry if I come off prickly

Huh? Not sure if you come across that way to anyone else but you don't to me. Ask @Citizen Rules i'm a big fan of yours Joel.

I'll never understand why some people try and beat up on people with passionate opinions, immediately accusing those opinions of being "old fashioned" or "outdated". That's a dick move right there. If these assaults came from professionals, I'd consider them, but they don't come from pro's. They come from novices who haven't tied the boots up yet. Chill out. This is supposed to be be tongue in cheek socializing and stimulation, not attacks on people for having an opinion. Try countering with a less condescending dialog. Don't fail the debate team, there's still time to poke someone in the chops with a wink and a nod before closing the casket to being socially sound.

I really just want you all angry and confused the whole time.

Condescending? This thread was literally started by a user who asserted that punk and metal "weren't really music, but noise" - it doesn't get more condescending than asserting that the music they personally don't like doesn't count as real music regardless of what anyone else may think about it.

I'm just saying that, if I were to say that movies like Beauty and the Beast or The Incredibles or The Wrong Trousers didn't count as real movies just because they didn't involve putting flesh-and-blood humans in front of a camera, then people would think I was being unnecessarily narrow-minded in my definition of what counted as a movie.

Huh? Not sure if you come across that way to anyone else but you don't to me. Ask @Citizen Rules i'm a big fan of yours Joel.

I'll never understand why some people try and beat up on people with passionate opinions, immediately accusing those opinions of being "old fashioned" or "outdated". That's a dick move right there.

Here's the thing though: Everyone is allowed to have an opinion and express it - and that includes having an opinion about someone else's opinion.

Here's the thing though: Everyone is allowed to have an opinion and express it - and that includes having an opinion about someone else's opinion.

Of course. And here's the thing about manners and tone..it's easily lost on the internet, and if we're to be friendly with each other, we should take precautions and try and be productive and still maintain a bond. I hate laziness. When I speak out of turn I do damage control. Anyone do damage control, or are some people perfectly happy being openly miserable and given accolades for it?

Right. I wasn't referring to the OP, though. I was referring to the attack on Matt72582. I've seen him fall under attack before because of his classic sensibilities and it doesn't sit well with me. That's all. TBH I didn't even bother reading the OP.

The issue isn't so much that he has "classic sensibilities" at all so much as the way in which he expresses them at the expense of others' sensibilities. Consider that the first post Matt got "attacked" over was one where he agreed with OP's condescending "not real music" remark, which is also the post where he first complained about humanity being taken out of art by artificial means. Understandably, people pointed out how this was an unfair generalisation to make about new music. I'll certainly hate bands and genres but I won't think of them as "not real music" - the worst music is still music.