The Movie Forums Top 100 of All-Time Refresh: Countdown

Yojimbo and Spirited Away

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We aren't technically the same person. I programed you to appear as if you were autonomous from me. It's an illusion. I'm sure everyone will catch on soon enough, so might as well spill the beans.

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I literally just put on Deep Purple's In Rock when this came up.


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Right, but who are these people? Is this a frequent misconception (that I have literally never encountered when discussing this film)?

Doesn't literally any film with a complex/flawed protagonist run the risk of some people taking everything they do as being okay? Doesn't every comedy that exaggerates scenarios or actions for comedic effect run the risk that some people will take those actions seriously?

If we agree that the film isn't endorsing the actions of the main characters (but does endorse their "find your joy" philosophy), then I'm not sure where there's a criticism. There are films that I think deliver a muddled message about the appropriateness of the protagonist's actions, but I don't find that to be an issue with Harold and Maude. Its set-pieces are clearly exaggerated for comedic effect, and if someone watches the movie and comes away with the message "Stealing cars is okay if it makes you happy", then that person . . . is stupid. And if we're going to judge films by the reactions/interpretations of stupid people, then no film is safe. I didn't come out of Ocean's Eleven saying, "Well, I liked it. But I'm worried about all the people who are now going to try to rob Vegas casinos".

You forgot to program "Hates James Wan and loves B movies" into me.

Just for the record, I agree. I was just clarifying the crux of the discussion as I thought it was getting lost.

I was going to make this joke but figured no one would get it.

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How favored is Godzilla in these parts?


I don't know if it would make my top 100, but it probably should.

I appreciate your clarification, because I had somehow missed that we were talking about "some people" and their possible interpretations.

But that just makes me more adamant that it's a flawed criticism. I mean, given 5 minutes on the IMDb I bet I could find horrific misinterpretations of every film in this top 100.

Could it be possible that the next two films are both from Japan? I doubt the hint is that literal.

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Love Harold and Maude. Glad it made the countdown. Great movie.

Just to add more to this than my , I recently watched Godzilla for the first time and was very taken by it.

If anyone in this thread has been holding out on it or assuming it "wouldn't be my thing", I highly encourage you to check it out. It's got a lot going on and Takeshi Shimura is in it!

I approve of the CGI blood in Zatoichi. With how comic and fantastical the movie is, real blood may have dispelled that vibe.

Why can't I thumbs down comments!!!!

I gave it a thumbs up because I had no other choice.

I'd be highly shocked if its a Godzilla movie. I'm guessing another Kurosawa film and the mentioned "Lost in Translation".

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Well...some of them are literally in this thread, even though they happen to find some of these things to be a plus. Which is perfectly reasonable.

Yes! And you can ask those questions about anything like this. "Doesn't anything that goes in a direction run the risk of going too far in that direction?" It sure does.

(Also, my position is not that people will take "everything they do as being okay" or that any film which can be misunderstood by anyone can be criticized on those grounds alone.)

See above. This is not my position. I'd hope that would be obvious if only because it's a ridiculous position.

My position is that movies like to romanticize free spiritedness a bit too much, to the point of being glib, and this is one of them. I'm not sure how someone gets from that to the idea that I think droves of morons are ethically rationalizing grand theft auto.

I didn't, either, but I find self-centeredness and a lack of empathy to be a much more common problem than casino robbery, probably because they're a lot easier to rationalize.

I think blowing up an innocent animal with an Acme rocket is worse than stealing a cookie, but I'd rather my kid see the former because not all actions (or contexts) are equally likely to be taken on board in some way.