Originally Posted by adidasss
therefore since the people in those countries watch 99.9% of the programs in their native language they in my opinion have a problem with watching shows or movies that are not in their native language and are subtitled.
This is post hoc, ergo propter hoc, or flawed logic. You are attempting to link two things that are only vaguely related. In other words, just because most of our films and shows are produced in English, doesn't mean we don't or can't enjoy the cultures of other countries, including films in their native tounge, presented with subtitles. The two are not mutually exclusive by any stretch of the imagination. I myself refuse to watch a foreign film if it's dubbed, it ruins the film and the true emotions of the actors are lost. Many people hold the same attitude, and live in this country. Please remember that America is one of the most diverse counties in the world, with a huge mix of cultures, races, and ways of living. Tis the melting pot after all. Assuming most of the people think along the same lines in America is laughably ridiculous.
Originally Posted by adidasss
smaller and poorer countries don't produce many quality tv programs so they are forced to buy foreign programs ( not only in english ) and the people are therefore used to subtitles...and those kind of countries are a majority in the world...
Straw man. This isn't what we are talking about here. It is also inaccurate. Before I comment on this, I need to clear up which countries are included in this "smaller or poorer" catagory you are talking about. What about asian countries. Certainly not a minority of the population, I hope you aren't trying to include them in "small" or "poor" catagories, because they are neither. Please clear up these vague groups you keep talking about.
Back to the issue. We are talking about America, and the rest of the "rich west" (so, if a country does well financially, the culture dries up? Poppycock!) having an apparent inability to enjoy subbed films. The
choice each and every American can make about a film has nothing to do with either the financial standing of smaller countries nor the fact that most of the films made in this country are in English. I would argue that it has more to do with the education of the individual in question, and how they were brought up to view world culture. Contrary to popular belief, we aren't a country full of ignorant bigots (remember, we have the most diverse mix of races in the world, with American citizens from each and every county on the planet living here) that are trying to stamp out other cultures across the globe. Of course that element exists, because there are ignorant people in the world,
in every country, buit I have been to a majority of the states in the USA in my time, and it just isn't a majority of the people here.
You ask me not to try and convince you about these concepts, but I need to ask. Just how is it that you think you would have more knowledge about the USA, than someone who has lived, worked, and existed here for upwards of 35 years?
Sorry I highjacked this thread, and will return to shots very soon, but I eally think you have some incorrect information you are going by, and would like you to perhaps gain the understanding that there are many, many good people in this country that you could maybe learn a thing or two from, while in turn perhaps exposing them to some information or culture that they hadn't previously been exposed to. I mean, take Croatia, I know very little about your country, and would like to learn more, and I believe my lack of knowledge come from lack of exposure. Have you lived in the US? Do you think it's possible that some of the information you have been presented with, second hand, could be inaccurate?
And really, You clearly aren't an idiot, but just seem a little misguided and perhaps a little angry about the USA. I understand the anger. No, I really do. Hell, I am pissed at my country a lot of the time, but I love it just the same, because much good exists here. But please remember, there are many, many people in this country and we are all so, so different. I believe keeping healthy channels of communication open throughout the world will help to clear up some of the misconceptions about the American people. Think what you want about the politics of this country, as they are a mess, but please don't condemn an entire country full of people on a whim.
Meanwhile:
SHOTS: (I really like both of the ones you listed last, btw)
Solaris (2002 version) - When the communication from Dr. Gibarian ends, it fragments and freezes behind Dr. Kelvin. This one image speaks volumes about the film.
Leon - When he peeps into the Penthouse through the bullethole near the start of the film.
Jian Gui (The Eye) - The elevator...
La Cité des enfants perdus - The chain reaction....
EDIT - Wow, what a waste of time this post was. Just saw that you randomly told Nebbit off in another thread for no reason, which made me realize I have been far too patient with your lame ass.
Ignore what I typed above the shots, and insert this instead:
Long walk, short pier.
Oh, and Goodbye, don't let the door hit you in the ass.
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don't be like that..i was just misbehaving a bit, i was reading the thread and every other post was like "great review" so i just got the urge to say, ok let's stop XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXand exuse the language, i get a bit vulgar at times...
