The 1st MoFo Movie Hall of Fame: Round 1

Yeah, there's no body mutilation in it.

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You and I are on very different pages my friend, as I prefer this movie to Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke.

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But I really want to see any Miyazaki film to understand why Gua loves him so much. I don't deny I might love it.

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I guess start with Spirited Away. A lot of people say it is his best.

I'd suggest Princess Mononoke, it's the only one i've enjoyed out of the 3 i've seen.

Will be watching a Miyazaki film eventually. I still didn't pull myself to watching Perfect Blue.

Well sh*t I just realized all my top ten movies have some sort of body mutilation in them, except Duck Soup. But I think you were reffering me liking 10/65: Selbstverstümmelung.

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10/65: Selbstverstümmelung is a great short. I didn't like other 2 by this director, though. Too random.

I'm watching the last film, which is Farewell My Concubine. After that, I'll probably be able to send in my list.

You are not in the right age for it anyway.

I guess that you should be older to understand it or younger. Though your own personality might be incompatible to it.

Anyway, considering it is easily the most complex film out of these 12 (at least in terms of plot), I wouldn't call it childish.

Perfect Blue has nothing to do with Miyazaki's work. Overall, in terms of tone I would say that Takahata, Hosoda and Shinkai are much closer to Miyazaki than Kon. Kon's movies don't even feel very Japanese (I guess that Donnie Darko might like Perfect Blue, it's has even a rape scene).

Well, Nausicaa actually has a very feminine childlike mentality: "let's save the baby ohm", "how cruel, they are mistreating the poor baby ohm", "the people of the valley are in danger, I must sacrifice myself to save them", she lacks that hardness and selfishness that characterizes adult male characters in cynical adult movies (which are most movies, by the way). But that's why I love it I, I am feed up with cynical characters.

I find characters with a cynical adult mentality to be boring and cold - and a poor artistic choice for the director-. However, I guess that a 15 year old boy that is in a natural process of rejecting his own childhood and cutesy characteristics might not like a cinematic statement characterized by these very same features. Indeed, that's why I suggested Satoshi Kon for him, since this is a director of anime movies that teenagers might like more.

I don't think I might have liked the Nausicaa character if I had watched it before becoming a mature adult - though I might guess that I would have loved the other elements of the movie. When I was 14-15 I liked movies where the main character was a cynical men that crushed, defeated and humiliated his enemies. Now I find that kind of character to be juvenile, though I am still able to enjoy it but now I do enjoy even more watching characters with an unshakable sense of dignity and a childlike sense of humanism - even though people like these are very hard to find in the real world- Nausicaa is a Christ like figure.

You make it sound like David Hess is his favorite actor.

I'm 16

I just think the way Miyazaki reasons when telling a story is ridiculous and is childlike, in the sense that I feel he pulls stuff out of his ass. Take the edning to Spirited Away for example , I mean there's no logic to that. nothing complex, nothing that takes effort to come up with that bull ****. The dialogue (and no I didn't watch the dubbed version) is childlike and just weak. I understand these movies have adult like symbolism, but that doesn't matter if it's not executed properly.

Haha, love this! You made poor Donnie Darko a pervert!

Spirited Away is a very smart and complex film, in my opinion. I think you focus way too much on the superficial elements of Miyazaki's stories, but your criticism is certainly not unfounded. You should keep in mind, though, that his films are made for children too, so there's nothing wrong with having certain 'childish' elements. Oh well, if it's not your cup of tea, you shouldn't taste it any futher, I guess.
I do recommend Porco Rosso to you, though. I think you might like that one a little more. It's quite different from Miyazaki's other work.


I watched every film on this Hall of Fame list now, by the way.
My question is:

Should I send in a top 12 or just a top 6?

Top 12 is preferable

Just sent in my top 12 (+ some short thoughts about my top 6 films).

I can't wait to see everyone's top 12 and the final results!

How much longer?! LOL! I'm dieing to see what movies made the second round!!!
I feel like an eager 3 year old.

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Those of you that haven't sent in your votes yet, how many do you have left to see? We can work out when this round will finish up based off of that.