American Psycho

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Originally Posted by The Silver Bullet
the goal is to isolate the audience by showing them themselves, then showing them Patrick Bateman is the better option.
Okay, I read the thread and liked back and forth banter about the reality of the murders. So far, I'm most taken with The Silver Bullet's analysis. The satire everyone keeps referring to is the fact that Bateman gets away with murder or at least admits it. I remember ash is the gal saying at one point that even though Bateman is a sick, perverted psychopath, he is still able to admit to himself at the end of the film that he is---that is, make a confession---whereas none of the others are even capable of admitting this. I really like Ash's idea that Bateman ends up being the "hero" of sorts. As Bullet said, we are all already American psychos.

Also, in regards to the forum's current Deleuzian climate, I can now fully appreciate the the film and novel's use of murder as a metaphor for consumerism. This ultra-exaggerated display of parasitic destruction and consumption of human libido is just about the most brilliant satire of Capitalism I've ever seen.

Originally Posted by ryanpaige
Bret Easton Ellis and Mary Herron say there isn't supposed to be ambiguity regarding whether Bateman killed folks or not - that he did kill people, and it wasn't in his head.
If accurate, Harron's and Ellis's comments in this interview lend even more credence to this explanation of the narrative's intention.

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Also, thank you for spawning the endlessly amusing CHECK MA DUBZ meme.

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I liked this movie, it shows how close all of us are to snapping. We enjoy violence when we feel self-rightous about it (vengeance movies, Mel Gibson exclaiming, "You killed my family. I"m coming to get you."). Only thing with Bateman is: he doesn't need a reason.

PS The major designer labels represented in the movie would let Bale wear their clothes, but only when he wasn't killing anyone. Hypocrites.
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At first I was like: NO, NO, NOOOO!!!!

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Now I'm like: maybe...



My 2 cents:

It's been a while since I saw it. My impression of Bateman and the narrative reliability on one viewing was that he may have killed some but was also probably embellishing. Possibly insane but also a compulsive attention-seeker who gets attention by confessing (thereby puffing himself up), and the more outrageous the confession the better the attention. Even the fact that he's confessing might be unreliable (maybe he's just thinking about confessing and the entire narrative is solipsistic) but I'm not sure if that was an intentional implication and I'd need to watch it again to see how confident I can be about that interpretation.

It seemed to be very heavily influenced by Vladimir Nabokov's writing (unreliable narrator, self-conscious parody of the confessional literary genre) but more vulgar/accessible (less word-play, less-thoughtful structure, fewer and less-eclectic/abstruse references). At the time I saw it I though the pathetic insistence mixed with irony in the acting and story ("please watch me, I'm desperate"/"never-mind, I'm only acting pathetic and crazy to get you to watch me") in a somewhat blunt and annoying way but I can't describe my opinion of the film much more clearly than that at this point, just that I found it somewhat annoying. much more-so than Fight Club.



Also, thank you for spawning the endlessly amusing CHECK MA DUBZ meme.

I couldn't help but lol when I saw that pic. That is the single greatest image I've seen on MoFo, except for Sexy Celebrity's recent Jake Gyllenhaal XMas avatar.

I might be back later with some thoughts on American Psycho, but can't be bothered right now. Studying for exams.



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Just watched American Psycho last week. Christian Bale was great.
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I love this movie...Christian Bale's brilliant performance should have earned an Oscar nomination and I don't know why, but I always find it a little unsettling to remember that this film was directed by a woman, considering the way Patrick Bateman treats all the female characters in the film.



^Maybe that's why it was so effective? Women surely have a better sense and experience of what a real bastard is, rather than a guy having to think about himself or other guys acting like that.
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This movie made me a fan of Christian Bale, but that fandom ended up dying out. This and The Machinist are bloody fantastic performances (and fantastic movies), personally not a huge fan otherwise. Couldn't put my finger on why.