what s wrong with James Bond: Die Another Day ?

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i have to say i ve seen this movie many times already since it s release, and i found it very entertaining, according to you guys, what do u think went wrong with this film, as for me the beginning was quite engaging enough with the plot, where bond gets kidnapped and tortured...
i really liked jinx character and how bond needs to find out where those diamonds come from.
many say this was the worst pierce brosnan outing, not his fault offcourse, but many seem to dislike the villain and the plot..
can you guys provide what went wrong here?



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i have to say i ve seen this movie many times already since it s release, and i found it very entertaining, according to you guys, what do u think went wrong with this film, as for me the beginning was quite engaging enough with the plot, where bond gets kidnapped and tortured...
i really liked jinx character and how bond needs to find out where those diamonds come from.
many say this was the worst pierce brosnan outing, not his fault offcourse, but many seem to dislike the villain and the plot..
can you guys provide what went wrong here?
I found it entertaining up to a point. Its problem is the same as happened with Moonraker in that the science fiction element – we could almost say science fantasy – goes mad and it ceases to become a Bond film as we know it. Actually the original Fleming Moonraker story must have been an influence, particularly for the finale; and there's repetition in yet another use of a satellite weapon. Decent title for the film, though a bit similar to Tomorrow Never Dies. Inferior, characterless title song.

I found Halle Berry incredibly overrated and quite unsexy, and it still bugs me that Rosamund Pike wasn't the main Bond girl. I liked Toby Stephens, as over-the-top as he was. By this point as well John Cleese was insufferable and he'd only made two of the films.

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For me it was fine, it was the two before it that put me to sleep.
tomorrow never dies is good up until the last third...
the world is not enough is good aswell until the ending



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Love goldeneye. Tomorrow never dies is solid in terms of that Hollywood blockbuster type action filler. Die another day felt so set piecy and artificial (not just that surfing scene). Almost like bond was going through the motions and the film lacked any emotion imo. It’s been a while since I’ve seen it though to be fair.



What I think goes under the radar is that Casino Royale was supposed to be getting back to basics after Die Another Day, yet there are still over-the-top action set pieces that you could compare to that film, and they've continued right up to Spectre. The one that stands out actually is the roof chase in Quantum of Solace, with its climactic fight under the glass roof.



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From what I remember.

-WOAT bad guy, Korean guy transformed into an English gentleman. Please.
-Invisible car. No just no. WOAT car chase on ice with 2 ridiculous gadgeted up cars.
-The above surfing scene.
-John Cleese WOAT taking over from the GOAT Q.
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@Mr Minio posted the exact same gif I was about to.

But I'd like to add....invisible car. Elements of the film set people up for a hard hitting James Bond film, then the movie seems to pull the rug out from under us in the second half delivering a wild Moonraker type flick. It essentially ended Brosnan's time as Bond and he is my favourite.

Maybe one of the lesser quality villains this series has put out. I think they should have kept him Korean, it would at the very least make the film stand out as one of I think only two films where the villain wasn't white. Bond is a globe hopping spy, give us more culture here.

I felt like the script really wanted to have a possibility of a Jinx spin-off. Berry wasn't terrible and she looked great in her introduction scene on the beach, but if you want a Bond girl who kicks ass, go watch Tomorrow Never Dies.

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Terrible CGI. That previously mentioned scene Minio posted. But also look at when Berry dives off the top of the building backwards, into the water. It's laughably bad.

Brosnan to me is the best bond in the worst movies. He hit gold with Goldeneye, but then the films to follow faded away. The series became more about the gadgets than Bond. Brosnan carried those films.
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Forgot Madonna was even in it. Fencing coach right?

Yea Brosnan was a very good bond, Goldeneye is the best Bond film since Spy Who Loved Me I think. His other 2 were OK, but Die Another Day was an abomination. The Daniel Craig ones haven't been that great either. Skyfall and Casino were OK but Craigs other 2 were dire.



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Craig ones sucks, the only exception was Casino Royale, and that film was good only until the middle of it. Spectre was almost as bad as Die Another Day



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What I think goes under the radar is that Casino Royale was supposed to be getting back to basics after Die Another Day, yet there are still over-the-top action set pieces that you could compare to that film, and they've continued right up to Spectre. The one that stands out actually is the roof chase in Quantum of Solace, with its climactic fight under the glass roof.
If you can watch Die Another Day and Casino Royale back-to-back and think that there is no significant difference between the set-pieces in both films, then I'm not sure what to say. The change from outrunning giant laser satellites with surfboards and invisible cars to foot chases through construction sites and airports is just that big.
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If you can watch Die Another Day and Casino Royale back-to-back and think that there is no significant difference between the set-pieces in both films, then I'm not sure what to say. The change from outrunning giant laser satellites with surfboards and invisible cars to foot chases through construction sites and airports is just that big.
They're going for scale in two different ways. Die Another Day is operating in the fantastic but even though Casino Royale and the follow-ons aren't, they're still susceptible to presenting action that's difficult to believe. I find the building collapse in Spectre very ropey, whereas the one in Casino Royale worked well.



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I mean, that is what Bond's fundamentally about, but there's a distance between something merely requiring suspension of disbelief and something being too absurdly unbelievable even by the universe's already-outlandish standards.



I mean, that is what Bond's fundamentally about, but there's a distance between something merely requiring suspension of disbelief and something being too absurdly unbelievable even by the universe's already-outlandish standards.
Die Another Day was freakishly outlandish in a way that Moonraker only just skirted round. That's why I was suprised with parts of the free running/crane sequence in Casino Royale for not reining it in a bit more. I remember when Quantum of Solace came along the action was discussed as having to compete with Bourne and possibly other films, so perhaps that's really why there was a limit to how down-to-earth Bond could get, even if we expect the death-defying stunts.



Forgot Madonna was even in it. Fencing coach right?

Yea Brosnan was a very good bond, Goldeneye is the best Bond film since Spy Who Loved Me I think. His other 2 were OK, but Die Another Day was an abomination. The Daniel Craig ones haven't been that great either. Skyfall and Casino were OK but Craigs other 2 were dire.
What the heck, skyfall was ok????? And casino? Ok? Are u serious



I'd go with this order I think:

Skyfall
Casino Royale
Quantum of Solace
Spectre



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What the heck, skyfall was ok????? And casino? Ok? Are u serious
Yea just OK. Massively overrated both of them if you ask me, not a patch on Goldeneye.



Yea just OK. Massively overrated both of them if you ask me, not a patch on Goldeneye.
What I loved about GoldenEye – even more in retrospect – is that it was a proper and much needed reboot. The Living Daylights had still had that Moore-era feel, then they started to lose that a bit more with Licence to Kill, but GoldenEye felt totally fresh, not just because of Brosnan coming in either. I particularly liked the music.