Originally Posted by Deadite
SC, if you genuinely care about those "kids out there are suicidal and killing themselves" then why do you downplay making fun of people when it suits you?
I care about the
issue and I do think kids out there shouldn't be killing themselves over bullying. But here's the thing -- I'm not taking this as, "these kids are killing themselves because of bullying." NO. I have never bought into this. Even years ago, I was ranting about this with people when that one gay college student jumped off a bridge after his roommate secretly videotaped him and a male friend having sex. That really, in my mind, set off a lot of this stuff in regards to bullying and "It Gets Better" and all that.
I was bullied when I was a kid. LOTS of people get bullied. It's extremely common. AND THEY DON'T KILL THEMSELVES. I didn't kill myself, obviously.
There is something
else to this whole issue of bullying. You can't fix it with "It Gets Better" videos or, in the case of Karen Klein, $700,000. It isn't just that a bunch of people are being mean to kids and it's making the kids kill themselves. Something is keeping these kids from surviving, and it's not just the bullies. Either there's something wrong with society and culture at large (my biggest guess) that's upsetting these kids and making them weak, or they have chemical imbalances and they need medical help. It isn't just about the bullies. Maybe it's gotten worse because now every act of bullying comes with the added bonus of it getting filmed or photographed thanks to everyone now having cameras on hand with their phones, but still, I think something else is wrong -- and to me, this whole Karen Klein thing is an example of what's wrong. Like I've said, an old woman should not be the poster girl for bullying and teen suicides. I think the obsession with the bullying issue should be dropped entirely -- THEN I bet it would actually end. People should learn how to just deal with it. If you go looking for victim status, you're a victim, and you won't be a survivor. You have to move past it and just own it. The guy who jumped off a bridge because his friend videotaped him was ridiculous. I would have thought, "Well, why is my friend taping me having sex? Is he curious? Does he want to see me doing that?" People need to be FIERCE. They need to develop tools of strength and attitude -- they don't need to see the allure of being labeled as a victim, which is what I think is very prevalent right now in society. Even with the fat jokes issue -- can't anybody find any strength and positive attitude in being fat?
This is why some people here are annoyed with me being "stereotypically gay" -- they would rather see me BUTTON MY MOUTH and not express my gay feelings. Not admit about liking Jake Gyllenhaal or whatever. Not make jokes. These people would rather see me bow under the pressures of trying to act "like everyone else." Well, that's not what I believe in. I believe in personality and strength. I believe in just going with it than being a victim and trying to restrain all of my characteristics. I mean, hell, I'll openly admit that I ain't the "sexy celebrity" I once was anymore. I've put on weight. I've lost hair. You can all make fun of me as much as you want. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO. In fact, I wish my username was something like "Fat Bastard" now or something just to reflect the truth. I've gotten older and I've changed and evolved. And I'm not killing myself over it.
Because he's a hypocrite.
You pretty much hit the nail on the head as to my point when I called him that. Apparently bullying is not okay, unless it's Sexy Celebrity who is the bully and/or the victim of the bullying is a fat person. Then it's just somebody having a little fun. Good times for all, right?
That is so not true. That's ridiculous. You don't know what you're talking about. You're just trying to paint me as a villain.