What Are Your Top 3 Favorite Albums?

Sooo... melodically it goes Thrash > Speed > Heavy > Power?

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Just because they play fast, does not mean that they are Speed metal. Dragonforce themselves are actually Power metal. Power metal evolved from Speed metal, and quite a few progenitors of the genre (Helloween, Gamma Ray, Blind Guardian) are credited as "Speed/Power" metal bands, but "newer" bands like Dragonforce, Sonata Arctica, Edguy, Stratovarius, Rhapsody and Kamelot all directly inhabit the realm of "Power metal". There is a difference, if you choose not to see it or accept/care about it, than that's your own prerogative, but please don't spread misinformation to others.

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From most melodic to least.

Power > Heavy > Speed > Thrash

But you'd be missing out on a lot by not mentioning Progressive, Folk and Doom metal. Also in that spectrum we have certain sub genres and bands that utilize melody in interesting ways. I mean there's a genre of death metal called Melodeath, which is exactly as it sounds, Melodic Death Metal.

It just seems silly to me to not allow the idea that music can inhabit multiple genres. Movies and video games do it all the time.

A Bunch of other favorite of mine:
Billy Talent - Billy Talent I (2003)

- Childhood Band and indeed childhood album. So many great memories. One of the best Punk album of all-time.
Favorite Song of the album:


System Of A Down - Mezmerize (2005)

- Awesome memories while listening that album. I hope SOAD do another album in the near future.
Favorite Song of the album:


Linkin Park - Meteora (2003)

- People know how I love old Linkin Park. Hybrid Theory and Meteora for me are Masterpieces.
Favorite Song of the album:

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It sounds like you're saying a Rectangle can't also be a Quadrilateral because Rectangles are part of Quadrilaterals.

Well, I guess if that's how you choose to look at it, but I'd say that's a rather obtuse point of view.

While it's origins are in Speed Metal, it's much more than that, the music is more aggressive and the imagery is worlds apart and both have dedicated fan bases. See, to me it also seems that by your logic, punk, black metal and thrash metal would also be interchangeable terms, because the origins of both black/thrash lie in punk. Should we just refer to all forms of Metal music as Rock and Roll? Are you one of those "It's all metal, it's all good" guys?

Of course not, "interchangeability" is something you put in my mouth.

I just don't see any merit in drawing black and white lines around songs, and especially bands, when their sound can change at the drop of a hat.

Saying DragonForce can't be considered Speed Metal seems ridiculous and you must see that speaking down to me on the topic is no way to sway me to your position.

I don't mean to offend, it just seems like a trivial distinction and I can't help but get elitist vibes from the uncompromising way you talk.

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To be honest, ever since the Metalheads tournament I've been listening to metal more than any other genre. Since then I've listened to more Animals As Leaders and I've found In This Moment, Sister Sin, and just yesterday, Ordan Ogen, which I really dig.


I probably won't ever agree with your insistence on the increasing subdivision of musical genres and I probably won't ever share your love of Death Metal and the like (I'm far too fond of my melodies, tamer vocals, and less-than-gruesome subject matter), but let's not play like I don't have a vested interest in the genre.

I'm just the sort of person who pains for hours over how to categorize my library by genre without spreading these kinds of broad terms too thick or thin. Ultimately it feels fruitless. I know what I like and what I like isn't constrained by metal or any number of it's seemingly arbitrary subgenres.

Haven't heard of them before. I like the song.

That's one of the 3 SOAD songs I really like (along with Toxicity and Aerials). The thing that always gets me with SOAD is they're not entirely serious, the vocals get really silly. I can appreciate them doing their own thing, but I feel like it mildly spoils their songs.

A favorite of mine too and probably my most favorite off the album.

I really like a couple of their "newer" songs I've heard like Lost in the Echo and Across The Line (especially Nightcore'd *shame*).

I find so many songs, but I wind up with no motivation to buy the the CDs they belong to because they're the only songs I like off their albums. That's why I like Licensed Compilation albums, so here's my Top 3 of that.


3.) Pure 80s by UTV Records

A lotta memorable songs, it's pretty hard to pick one as my stand-out favorite. I like Our House, I like Sweet Dreams, I like Video Killed The Radio Star... I think I'll go with...

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Speaking of metal genres and melody, we can't forget Melodic Death Metal. Due to the Death vox, the melody switches to the instruments instead. Melodeath is one of my favorite sub-genres in metal.

Here are a couple of examples:

Dark Tranquillity - Monochromatic Stains



Amon Amarth - Runes to my Memory

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I could definitely get into those if the vocals didn't put me off so much.

I used to abhor harsh vocals. If i heard them in a song, I would shut it off right away. At some point, they grew on me, and now I think they are often the best fit for metal. Not sure what changed my mind, really. I think i sort of worked my way into it with tracks that had both clean and harsh vocals, like this:

Dark Tranquillity - State of Trust

Now that's more my jam.

I got a bunch of songs that I really like that have SOME harsh vocals in them, but I feel like they're earned because they're often built up to for the chorus. It's when they dominate the song and/or they're so guttural they're unintelligible that they put me off.

The first one I was able to get into was The Poison by Bullet for My Valentine. I also like Voices by Crown The Empire (even if it's "not metal enough"). I think the song I like with the harshest vocals is The Great Divide by In This Moment.

Can anyone recommend me some industrial metal bands?

Cool tune.

I agree about the unintelligible vocals, so I tend to only listen to harsh bands that have a singer that has good diction with his or her harsh vocals.

How about the reverse of what you said, in that the song builds up to cleans in the pre-chorus and chorus while using harsh for the verses? Like so:

Amorphis - Dealth of a King

Seeeeeee, the thing with that is two things:

On one hand you got the growly voice which sounds like the guy is belching his lines.

On the other hand when he finally stops and starts actually singing I'm left scratching my head why he wasn't just doing that the whole time.

When the harsh vocals are less "growls" and more "screams" then you a have much more potent emotional delivery which makes sense to build up to in the third verse where the song is supposed to climax if it's at all intended to be emotionally charged.

In This Moment does this quite a bit and I not only stand it, but enjoy it because it doesn't sound silly, it's not terribly hard on the ears, and it's suits the tone of the song.

Even one of my favorite songs, Nightmare to Remember by Dream Theater has an "angry" third verse which I feel makes it unintentionally funny considering that the entire buildup to the song has been this emotional recollection of a car trash and the traumatic experience that followed in the hospital... which is then bookended by the singers getting all growly and intimidating to say "BY THE GRACE OF GOD ABOVE, EVERYONE SURVIVED! RAAAAWWWWWWW!!!!!"

That... sounds like good news... I don't know why it's being delivered like it's bad news...

Harsh vocals are the way to go for metal. They fit the genre perfectly.