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The Hateful Eight is Quentin Tarantino's eight film in what has been an incredible career. With hits such as the Kill Bills and Inglorious Bastards in his past as well as heavily Oscar nominated movies like Pulp Fiction and Django, it was safe to say that The Hateful Eight had a lot of weight on it's shoulders to deliver. The film has also faced a lot of controversy and was almost not made at all due to being leaked many years ago which also adds pressure for the film to succeed. So would it be able to live up to the standard raised by Tarantino's previous movies?


The Hateful Eight is an American murder mystery western which has a star studded cast with the likes of Samuel L Jackson, Kurt Russell and Tim Roth featuring in this movie. A very interesting plot where Major Marquis Warren (Jackson) catches a ride with John Ruth (Russell) whom is on his way to Red Rock to collect a bounty for Daisy Domergue (Jennifer Jason Leigh). Due to a heavy blizzard, Warren, Ruth, Domergue and stagecoach driver OB and the new Sheriff of Red Rock have to take shelter at Minnie's Habadashery. Little do they know what awaits them at the shelter as someone is in cahoots with Domergue and will do anything to try and free her.



I think that a good way to look at this movie is to look at it in two parts. This was the way that I actually seen it in the cinema due to the length of it. For a film over 3 hours long, the cinema put a sensible intermission about half way through the film. The break came at a very good time as well and made a good halfway point where you could see things starting to change.





The first half of the film was most certainly the slower of the two. The first half heavily featured many scenes with great dialogue, with no action really happening. The building up of the characters was expertly done through the first half. This was mainly due to the great dialogue that we have come to expect in a Tarantino film. In a film this long, if the dialogue and the building of the characters isn't good, the film would fall flat on it's face. Thankfully this was not the case as Tarantino once again showed his talents as not only a director but as a writer as well. I can see how some people could perhaps be bored at some points which was evident to me as one the people I was with became a bit restless through the first half at times. The end of the half though starts to change with lets say quite a disturbing image as it starts to become the more wild side of Tarantino's films. You can see the movie start to move onto the crazy and beloved side as the first half came to a close and the intermission began.


The second half I feel was much more enjoyable. This is where a lot of the action happened and the story really moved on quicker. The well known traits of Tarantino are shown here such as the bloody violence and also the quick quips. The second half was definitely the more entertaining of the two. Also the structure of the film which is often shifted around in Tarantino films is once again shown, showing his talent for directing. It was a lot more fun in this half and was full of laughs and shocking moments. Also I wasn't able to figure out who was the culprit so I felt the movie did a great job at making the climax not obvious at all.



The Hateful Eight is filled with lots of dark comedy. There is an abundance of laughs throughout the whole film which really adds to the film. I feel that the delivery by many of the characters such as Jacksons and also by Walton Goggins- who I will come back to later- made this film really funny as every joke seemed to land perfectly. Even with a lot of the more serious situations, the comedy as ever present but is done very well and correctly. The score of this movie is also excellent through the film. I also feel that from the opening scene did a great job of conveying the feeling of a western with the long opening with the credits. It really took me back to watching westerns as a kid with my dad.


The movie is full of great performances. Samuel L Jackson is great once again in a Tarantino film which seems to be a certainty now. He is once again a very entertaining bad ass that we all love to see. A lot of the comedy is successful due to Jacksons delivery as mentioned before. I also feel that Jennifer Jason Leigh was excellent playing a psychotic and deranged character. Although kept fairly quiet at the start, once the film progresses, the character seems to become more and more crazy. Also just by looking at her in this film, you can tell that she has a few screws loose. My favourite character from the film was Sheriff Chris Mannix played by Walton Goggins. I thought that this character was so great and unbelievably funny. So much of the comedy came from Goggins who I felt had the best performance of the movie and stood out from the rest. Most of the performances were very strong with Russell and Roth also producing great performances in their roles.




Although the film was pretty great, it did have some problems. For instance during the first half I did feel it being a little slow but that is maybe to do with the expectations of the carnage in a Tarantino film. Also on a few occasions a use of slow motion was used whilst people were talking and whilst action was going on. I felt that this didn't add anything to the film and was really unnecessary. If it was meant for comedy effect, I didn't even feel it worked that way either. At times I also found the character Bob, "The Mexican" was hard to understand at times due to his thick accent but thats really the only complaints I have.


Final Verdict: The Hateful Eight = 4.5/5
In many ways this film definitely lived up to he hype and expectations set for it. A strong showing from Tarantino in his eighth film. Most definitely worth checking out. Don't let the running time put you off seeing this film as it is truly excellent. You did it again Tarantino. Here's hoping it's not too long until his next one.

So if you have seen The Hateful Eight what did you think of it? Does it rank high on your list of favourite Tarantino films? I hope you enjoyed it if you have seen it and hope that this review may of convinced you to go and see The Hateful Eight. Once again thank you for reading.

By Angus McGregor



Great film. Couldn't agree more with your choice in favourite character, Walton Goggins.

Personally I preferred the slow pace of the first half, Quentin really nailed the western theme there I felt (which is exactly what I was hoping to see), espicially if you leave out the modern songs he put in here and there. It actually shocked me when the fighting really started, aside from Jackson I'd almost forgotten I was watching a Tarantino film.



Poor movie.

It's labourious, arrogant and gratuituous. Whilst Tarantino has normally flourished in being these things, especially the latter, it just doesn't click in this movie. It could and should have been a good movie. It could and should have been claustrophobic, suspenseful and clever. But it wasn't.

There were good performances. Even Samuel l Jackson was bordering on entertaining, but in the end it is a film that captures none of Tarantino's ability to really exert a coolness and a charm offensive over the viewer. A real disappointment.

I'd give it 5.5/10.



The Hateful Eight is Quentin Tarantino's eight film in what has been an incredible career. With hits such as the Kill Bills and Inglorious Bastards in his past as well as heavily Oscar nominated movies like Pulp Fiction and Django, it was safe to say that The Hateful Eight had a lot of weight on it's shoulders to deliver. The film has also faced a lot of controversy and was almost not made at all due to being leaked many years ago which also adds pressure for the film to succeed. So would it be able to live up to the standard raised by Tarantino's previous movies?


The Hateful Eight is an American murder mystery western which has a star studded cast with the likes of Samuel L Jackson, Kurt Russell and Tim Roth featuring in this movie. A very interesting plot where Major Marquis Warren (Jackson) catches a ride with John Ruth (Russell) whom is on his way to Red Rock to collect a bounty for Daisy Domergue (Jennifer Jason Leigh). Due to a heavy blizzard, Warren, Ruth, Domergue and stagecoach driver OB and the new Sheriff of Red Rock have to take shelter at Minnie's Habadashery. Little do they know what awaits them at the shelter as someone is in cahoots with Domergue and will do anything to try and free her.



I think that a good way to look at this movie is to look at it in two parts. This was the way that I actually seen it in the cinema due to the length of it. For a film over 3 hours long, the cinema put a sensible intermission about half way through the film. The break came at a very good time as well and made a good halfway point where you could see things starting to change.





The first half of the film was most certainly the slower of the two. The first half heavily featured many scenes with great dialogue, with no action really happening. The building up of the characters was expertly done through the first half. This was mainly due to the great dialogue that we have come to expect in a Tarantino film. In a film this long, if the dialogue and the building of the characters isn't good, the film would fall flat on it's face. Thankfully this was not the case as Tarantino once again showed his talents as not only a director but as a writer as well. I can see how some people could perhaps be bored at some points which was evident to me as one the people I was with became a bit restless through the first half at times. The end of the half though starts to change with lets say quite a disturbing image as it starts to become the more wild side of Tarantino's films. You can see the movie start to move onto the crazy and beloved side as the first half came to a close and the intermission began.


The second half I feel was much more enjoyable. This is where a lot of the action happened and the story really moved on quicker. The well known traits of Tarantino are shown here such as the bloody violence and also the quick quips. The second half was definitely the more entertaining of the two. Also the structure of the film which is often shifted around in Tarantino films is once again shown, showing his talent for directing. It was a lot more fun in this half and was full of laughs and shocking moments. Also I wasn't able to figure out who was the culprit so I felt the movie did a great job at making the climax not obvious at all.



The Hateful Eight is filled with lots of dark comedy. There is an abundance of laughs throughout the whole film which really adds to the film. I feel that the delivery by many of the characters such as Jacksons and also by Walton Goggins- who I will come back to later- made this film really funny as every joke seemed to land perfectly. Even with a lot of the more serious situations, the comedy as ever present but is done very well and correctly. The score of this movie is also excellent through the film. I also feel that from the opening scene did a great job of conveying the feeling of a western with the long opening with the credits. It really took me back to watching westerns as a kid with my dad.


The movie is full of great performances. Samuel L Jackson is great once again in a Tarantino film which seems to be a certainty now. He is once again a very entertaining bad ass that we all love to see. A lot of the comedy is successful due to Jacksons delivery as mentioned before. I also feel that Jennifer Jason Leigh was excellent playing a psychotic and deranged character. Although kept fairly quiet at the start, once the film progresses, the character seems to become more and more crazy. Also just by looking at her in this film, you can tell that she has a few screws loose. My favourite character from the film was Sheriff Chris Mannix played by Walton Goggins. I thought that this character was so great and unbelievably funny. So much of the comedy came from Goggins who I felt had the best performance of the movie and stood out from the rest. Most of the performances were very strong with Russell and Roth also producing great performances in their roles.




Although the film was pretty great, it did have some problems. For instance during the first half I did feel it being a little slow but that is maybe to do with the expectations of the carnage in a Tarantino film. Also on a few occasions a use of slow motion was used whilst people were talking and whilst action was going on. I felt that this didn't add anything to the film and was really unnecessary. If it was meant for comedy effect, I didn't even feel it worked that way either. At times I also found the character Bob, "The Mexican" was hard to understand at times due to his thick accent but thats really the only complaints I have.


Final Verdict: The Hateful Eight = 4.5/5
In many ways this film definitely lived up to he hype and expectations set for it. A strong showing from Tarantino in his eighth film. Most definitely worth checking out. Don't let the running time put you off seeing this film as it is truly excellent. You did it again Tarantino. Here's hoping it's not too long until his next one.

So if you have seen The Hateful Eight what did you think of it? Does it rank high on your list of favourite Tarantino films? I hope you enjoyed it if you have seen it and hope that this review may of convinced you to go and see The Hateful Eight. Once again thank you for reading.

By Angus McGregor
Excellent review, I can't wait to see this movie now.



Great film. Couldn't agree more with your choice in favourite character, Walton Goggins.

Personally I preferred the slow pace of the first half, Quentin really nailed the western theme there I felt (which is exactly what I was hoping to see), espicially if you leave out the modern songs he put in here and there. It actually shocked me when the fighting really started, aside from Jackson I'd almost forgotten I was watching a Tarantino film.

I'm glad that you agreed with my favourite character. Out of interest what is your favourite Tarantino movie? Thank you for reading as well



Poor movie.

It's labourious, arrogant and gratuituous. Whilst Tarantino has normally flourished in being these things, especially the latter, it just doesn't click in this movie. It could and should have been a good movie. It could and should have been claustrophobic, suspenseful and clever. But it wasn't.

There were good performances. Even Samuel l Jackson was bordering on entertaining, but in the end it is a film that captures none of Tarantino's ability to really exert a coolness and a charm offensive over the viewer. A real disappointment.

I'd give it 5.5/10.
I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy it as much as I did, out of interest what is your favourite Tarantino movie? Thank you for reading my review, it is much appreciated



I have to return some videotapes...
Yeah this movie was really bad. Tarantino has lost his mind and can't stop using the "N" word in his scripts. It's a shame because a lot of his earlier work felt very natural whereas this felt so forced. I hated every character other than Kurt Russell, but even he wasn't that good.



It's called The Hateful Eight, so I daresay you're supposed to hate them.

Anyway, I thought it was very good by film standards, but only pretty good by Tarantino's. Better than Django Unchained (which I found really, really underwhelming), but still a big notch below his better efforts. Hard to complain about the prospect of him making films this entertaining indefinitely.

That being said, the reason I anticipate his films as much as I do (almost as much as any other director) is that they all have the chance to be truly exceptional. I'm worried he might not find the heights of Pulp Fiction and Inglorious Basterds again, but I'll be eagerly anticipating everything he does, because he might, and because even the underwhelming ones are pretty darn enjoyable.



Tarantino has like a handful of likeable characters in his entire filmography. I am so confused by the language thing as well but just because the people who complain about it don't seem to care about all the other nasy language he uses.
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I have to return some videotapes...
I hated the characters because they were so one dimensional along with their performances. It was just awfully written and when he does voiceover it just felt so ****ing shoehorned into the movie. This is a really ****** movie when compared to his body of work. We really didn't need to be there for 3 hours to get a story that could be told in half of that. It was just the most poorly written thing he has ever done.



Out of interest what is your favourite Tarantino movie?
I don't usually watch Tarantino's type of films (prefer westerns and sci-fi, etc) so I haven't seen them all. But that aside, I'd have to say 'Inglourious Basterds'. Really enjoyed watching it and Christopher Waltz made it all the better.

Anyway, I thought it was very good by film standards, but only pretty good by Tarantino's. Better than Django Unchained (which I found really, really underwhelming), but still a big notch below his better efforts. Hard to complain about the prospect of him making films this entertaining indefinitely.
Agree with this, 'Hateful Eight' was a much better film than 'Django Unchained', and while not as good as 'Inglourious Basterds' it was most definitely entertaining.



Poorly written? I thought these were some of his most multi dimensional an interesting characters. We didn't know a lot about them, but enough details to form opinions and generate tension between them. I thought one of the strongest elements was the kind of racial subtext about that time in America, where the black man is supposed to be free, and you have people like John Ruth trying to be liberal, but in reality, nobody is. How the different characters are painted on both sides of the war but as very different people was interesting to me. The absolute final scene I thought was like poetry, honestly, very emotional, maybe I'm a weirdo.



I hated the characters because they were so one dimensional along with their performances. It was just awfully written and when he does voiceover it just felt so ****ing shoehorned into the movie. This is a really ****** movie when compared to his body of work. We really didn't need to be there for 3 hours to get a story that could be told in half of that. It was just the most poorly written thing he has ever done.
I don't have an issue with someone disliking all the things you describe...Tarantino's style isn't for everyone. What I can't wrap my head around are having these complaints...while otherwise liking Tarantino! Was Samuel L. Jackson's voiceover shorned into Inglorious Basterds, too? Did we need almost 3 hours in that film, as well? Et cetera.

I love Tarantino's stuff, but I really, truly, totally "get" why someone might not. But I don't get how someone could think this was some kind of major departure from it.



By the reactions in this thread, I look forward to see what people say to my review if I ever get around posting it. Probably not going to have a single soul understand my complains either - not that I say people are acting stupid in here or whatever, I'm just saying I doubt people will like what they read, though I try to make valid points and explain myself properly.

I wasn't a fan of HF8 either, but I'm definitely a Tarantino fan... So yeah, let's see.



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I enjoyed this more than Django Unchained as well. I know that previously on this forum I stated that I really liked Django Unchained, but upon revisiting it I found that I really don't like it. It felt too much like what fanboys expect from a Tarantino film than an actual Tarantino film.

I digress. I saw Hateful Eight in 70mm and saw it again because my mom wanted to see it and had no one to go with. If you have a problem with the wide release run time be glad you didn't see the 70mm, ha ha.

While I did like the movie I found some of the performances to be really lackluster (James Parks's performance is a perfect example of this). I also hated the voice over, it was completely unnecessary and just drove me bonkers (it drove me so crazy that I actually initially hated the movie for this fact alone).

I did like the whodunit aspect and also loved the tension building. Tarantino has tense moments in most of his films but never really to the magnitude in Hateful Eight. The soundtrack was awesome (but it's by my favorite composer). I also agree with Daniel M, that ending was poetry. I know a lot of you may hate me for this but I felt from a technical standpoint this is QT's best film. It was a nice slow burn with tense moments reminiscent of Hitchcock or Welles. If the VO was taken out, it would have been a great example of visual storytelling (which is why it angered me so much).

Yeah, but I'm the guy whose favorite QT film was Jackie Brown until Inglourious Basterds came out so what do I know?