Important: Being Communist Is Now a Bannable Offense

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Jordan Peterson speaking on Political Correctness and Post-modernism.




Jordan Peterson discussing faith and religion with Dr. William Lane Craig and atheist Dr. Rebecca Newberger Goldstein. Ignore the title because it is not heated and the Atheist is not crazy, but she actually presents her arguments well too.




Peterson speaking on Identity Politics and Marxism.




A shorter video from an interview with Peterson on Justin Trudeau, Canada's Prime Minister.




Here is an interesting segment from Firing Line with Thomas Sowell on a lot of these issues back in 1981.




Dr. Victor David Hanson on Trump, Obama, and Hillary. This video is excellent for explaining what went on, and why Trump won.

I would also highly recommend watching the Rubin Report episode that features Peterson and Ben Shapiro. Rubin is out of his depth, so he doesn't say much, but there is some excellent conversation and debate between Jordan and Ben throughout the entire episode.

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Yaron Brook on Capitalism and Socialism




Philosopher Ayn Rand interviewed by Phil Donahue on Capitalism, Objectivism, Free Market, etc...

Oh nice, heh, I've seen Shapiro and Peterson on Rubin Report before, but not at the same time. Should be great.

Jordan Peterson is very entertaining. I think that he is right that Anglo-American countries have been suffering from the emergence of identity politics and that's a very dangerous development: over the past 20 years judging people by their "group identity" changed from bigotry to being "woke". There was the absurd case of a Canadian politician telling the other politician to shut up because she was a black women and he was a white man and white man don't have the right to talk about black women's issues.

Also, communism killed 150 million people hence I think that we should consider communists to be among the group of ideologies that includes nazism. I find it quite perplexing that nazism is so vilified by our contemporary culture while communism is not. I think the main reason for that is that the Nazis lost the war and the Communists won and so their propaganda machines continued to function (even today, as China is officially a Marxist state).

Finally I should comment one thing: the word "capitalism" is actually a marxist word since it's based on the concept of "mode of production". Today, modern economists don't use the concept of "mode of production" but only talk about institutions, that is, how well protected property rights are, how well enforced as contracts and by how much the state policy interferes on the allocation of resources. Words like "communism" and "capitalism" are, well, part of a scientifically dead jargon (that is still used by people who got their PHDs in second and third rate places several decades ago). For example, China is a "communist" country but it's tax rates are lower than US and Europe and it's institutions enforce contracts and protect private property just like in "capitalist" countries.

You make fair points here. I think the idealist Capitalists like Ayn Rand and Yaron Brook attribute the success of America to Capitalism, but I think that it's actually the Judeo-Christian values that allowed it to thrive. It needs a moral system, and that's why they advocate for Objectivism. But I think human corruption in all of us leads to our own self-destruction no matter what economic system we use. In Canada we're constantly going back and forth between the Liberals and Conservatives, but it's always the corruption that makes people switch sides. I don't know, the more I learn the less I feel like I actually have any idea what's going on.

Edit: Well, I have more of an idea than I used to, but all I realised was I had no idea, and now I barely have something of an idea... I suppose...

Great post, Guap!

Thanks Sendai

What I meant was just that modern economists don't think about "systems". That is, in all ages and societies people traded with each other, people made profits from doing business and people held property. What changes from country to country and from period to period is the quality of the institutions of each society in protecting rights and enforcing deals between people and the cultural attitudes regarding entreprenrial activity and trade. Societies that prospered more than others had better institutions and cultures that dignified entrepreneurial and commercial activity.

The idea of communism is the idea that one can design a complete self functioning society from the ground up. That is, to design a better society than we have that functions according to a single plan that can be though by a single individual or a group of individuals. This idea is naive since societies are incredibly complex organisms that are made up by hundreds of millions of people and each person has their own minds and plans accordingly to their own needs and preferences. The idea of communism never worked and actually was tried many times: since the mid 19th century some crazy people tried to make isolated villages function according to a single plan and it always failed. In China in the 1950s about 60 million people died when the Chinese government confiscated the farms of hundreds of millions of people. In other words, when people tried to implement communism in practice it always failed and often ended up in mass starvation.

Yet, there are still people who want to apply this ludicrous idea that was disproven both in theory and in practice. That is what I find perplexing. Well, communism is a dream and a form of religion so it will never be abandoned due to empirical or theoretical evidence.

But serious economists today have abandoned the concept of different "system" from what we have, which is only the natural organic order of society that emerged thanks to thousands of years of institutional and cultural evolution. To try replacing our massively complex society with some crazy system made up by some guy's imagination is insanity. Instead economists talk about policy: that is, what the government should do in respect to things like education, taxation and monetary policy and stuff like that.

Good to see Guaporense not talking about anime/manga/forum members for once.

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