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Directed By Women Countdown?
At this rate, I'm thinking we don't enforce any rules whatsoever and people just vote for whatever they feel qualifies.
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There are no complications or ambiguities with these rules:
On the other hand I discussed this before so I'm probably not adding anything new to the debate but the Wachowskis didn't suddenly realize that they were women in 2008. The case scenario where they had to perform as cis men to keep their jobs is not exactly a measure of privilege.
Also @jiraffejustin you are getting a bit overboard with the transphobia here.
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Also @jiraffejustin you are getting a bit overboard with the transphobia here.
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I thought it was a matter of Cobpyth going "do these look like women to you" and JJ going "yeah, they do".
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I really just want you all angry and confused the whole time.
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I was just pointing out that it's not that weird for people to perceive them winning a 'Directed By Women' Countdown as absurd.
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I was just pointing out that it's not that weird for people to perceive them winning a 'Directed By Women' Countdown as absurd.
I thought it was a matter of Cobpyth going "do these look like women to you" and JJ going "yeah, they do".
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Agree with everything Jal is saying. Also agree with Cob that a decision should be made soon (if it already hasn't i haven't read the thread) so we can move on.
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Vote for their films if you are inclined, Don't if your not. Case dismissed. Start a trans thread and tell people how phobic they are there.
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For the record i don't like any of The Wachowskis films and i don't even think i know another trans director but i do think all of their films should be included for the reasons Jal stated. People making their own decision on it is definitely the best solution here.
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Some of you are thinking that including the Wachoskis is about social issues, and if we don't include them it's somehow discrimination. But this isn't about social issues, it's a countdown...
And one that I thought was about giving a look at a group of directors who are under explored as there does seem to be an unfair bias towards women as directors in the world.
That's my last post on it.
And one that I thought was about giving a look at a group of directors who are under explored as there does seem to be an unfair bias towards women as directors in the world.
I thought the whole idea of a Women Directors Countdown is that women directors (in general) don't always get the same breaks in film making as men. In fact it could be said that movies directed by women have a harder time getting financial backing, making the path for a woman director all that much harder. So if the Wachowskis were making movies as men, they then had advantages at the time, that a woman director might not have had. Seems logical to me.
Anyway it's up to the host.
Anyway it's up to the host.
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...There should be a Hall of Fame at some point...
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Vote for their films if you are inclined, Don't if your not. Case dismissed. Start a trans thread and tell people how phobic they are there.
Some of you are thinking that including the Wachoskis is about social issues, and if we don't include them it's somehow discrimination. But this isn't about social issues, it's a countdown...
And one that I thought was about giving a look at a group of directors who are under explored as there does seem to be an unfair bias towards women as directors in the world.
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Anyway, i think it's only fair to include their work from both before and after coming out. If one of the reasons for creating this countdown in the first place is about considering the "feminine experience", then it's worth considering the transfeminine experience and how even the Wachowskis' earlier works reflects that.
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Sorry Jal, I said it was my last post. It's up to Iro to decide.
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I'm sorry I used such a terrible insult, probably felt a little heated after reading a comment sarcastically mocking two trans women because they don't look like women to him.
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