India Pakistan inch closer to war after 40 Indian soldiers are killed

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In what is being described as valentine's day massacre , yesterday a Pakistan backed suicide bomber rammed a vehicle filled with explosives into a bus carrying paramilitary forces , killing more than 40 Indian troops . The news channels are literally building a war hysteria ever since and a real war may break out . Pressure is on PM Modi to conduct a surgical strike on Pakistan , which will be retaliated in kind by Pakistan .

Military options before India ; precision air strike ?

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/res...w/68017170.cms

Indian Air force strike inside Pakistan

12 Mirage 2000s flew from AFS Gwalior, refueled midair and moved onward to their mission to Balakot, which is in KPK (undisputed Pak territory).

>2,000 lbs (yield, not weight) of LGBs were dropped, and an estimated 200+ hadjis were indiscriminately killed.

The wave consisted of a mixture of jets with ground-strike packages, as well as those heavy on AAMs to deal with pak interception

Source DFI ( defence forum of India )

Jesus, is this the official terminology the Indian government uses or are you quoting some propaganda? I half wouldn't blame them because what else are they supposed to do at this point

Assuming this isn't the start of WW3, Pakistan does deserve some kind of international award for the tightrope walk they've achieved of continuing to rake in money from both the west and China/Russia while at the same time being the launching pad for terrorism in every direction out of their country

Scary stuff, Ashdoc.

Stay safe!

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yeah , mumbai where i live is first on the list of possible pakistani retaliatory strikes as it is the economic capital of india .

i am quoting defence forum of india , which is a defence forum owned by a private individual named singh just like MOFO is owned by chris bowyer .

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/stor...696-2019-02-26

heavy shelling has begun on line of control the de facto border in kashmir .

Indian women dance to celebrate the strike on wagah border , the official crossing point to pakistan

I shall try to piece together yesterday's attack as it happened in simple language .

First of all , the decision to strike was inevitable because the Jaish e Mohammed was going to terror bomb again after the Pulwama attack .

Our intelligence agents from RAW had found out that the JEM had shifted many terrorists from their launch pads along LOC to balakot in Pakistan . Here they were in a training camp cum resort with firing range for practicing and swimming pool as well . Head of this camp was Azhar Yusuf , who was brother in law of JEM chief Masood Azhar .

Our 12 french built mirage 2000 jets took off from their main base of Gwalior in central India rather than any forward base in order to surprise . If they had been shifted to forward base then ISI spies would have conveyed the info to Pakistan . After the mirages took off they underwent mid air refuelling from 2 Russian built Ilyushin 78 air tankers which had flown in from Agra .

As the mirages moved towards Pakistan they were joined by some Sukhoi 30 MKI air dominance fighters from Bareilly and halwara air bases , whose task was to protect them from air attack . The whole formation crossed the LOC and then into Pakistan itself . Additional sukhois were flying along the LOC in case an air battle broke out . Indeed some Pakistani fighter jets were directed towards the formation but went back and did not attack because they were Chinese tech inferior jf 17 fighters unable to match our fighters .

All this was happening around 3 am in dead of night . At 3 .27 am the mirages released their payload on the target . It consisted of Israeli built spice 2000 laser guided bombs . The laser designator paints the target with a beam of laser and the bomb then rides along the beam to smash into the target . Also some Israeli built AGM 142 ( Popeye 2 ) missiles were fired from a distance of 60 to 80 km . The destruction was complete and at least 300 jehadis were killed . Some camps near LOC were hit too . They had been identified by Israeli built heron drones by aerial surveillance .

The balakot camp was spread over 6 acres , so 6 big 1000 kg bombs were used . It is 64 km from abottabad where Osama bin Laden was killed . The havoc rose nearby villagers from their sleep according to BBC Urdu , which took interviews of the villagers . The villagers thought that some earthquake was shaking them out of their sleep . The Indian fighter jets returned to their bases by 4 am . The IAF was using Phalcon AWACS and another mini AWACS to track enemy fighters . AWACS is plane with huge 400 km range radar that detects enemy fighters and transfers that info to our fighters by data link . The AWACS flew from Bhatinda air base .

This is the first air attack by a nuclear power on the territory of another nuclear power . So it is a record of sorts . Jai Hind !!

War begins . Both India and Pakistan claim each other's fighter jets shot .

one Indian pilot becomes prisoner of war

What happened is that as Pakistani jets entered Indian territory and dropped glide bombs the Indian pilot in old mig 21 chased them . That was his mistake . He should have left the chasing to new modern mig 29 or mirage or Sukhoi . Inspite of having old mig 21 he shot down a Pak jet . But the Pak pilot fell in their own territory and we have no prisoner to show . On the other hand our pilot is caught as his lone plane was attacked by several Pak planes in their territory. We should salute our brave pilot flying his old fighter into Pak territory . When yesterday our modern aircraft attacked Pak no Pakistan plane dared to challenge them . Ran away despite being scrambled .

On defence forum of India they are saying that indian PM Modi has lost initiative with captured pilot who is being paraded by pakistan on TV . Domestic pressure will build to get him released. But if Modi tries for peace right now he will be labelled as warmonger who had to accept initiative of peacemaker pakistani PM imran Khan , and will lose face in front of electorate . So it is important that he does not back out of action now .

Make that vested interests.
There is one difference between Indians and Pakistanis. When in trouble they become one, and we have sections who work for the enemy.

We have lost more soldiers in the supposed peace times than wars we fought against Pakistan or China. That's because we are dealing with an entity that fights a dirty, disgusting war using proxies. Even on this occasion it was they who bombed nearly 50 of our men. Jaish-e-muhhamad which thrives in Pakistan claimed the attack.

Finally there is a God damn government that is willing to take the brave call, and one POW and we should seek peace. Seek peace with an entity that has constantly stabbed us in our backs every time we offered peace in the past. Not once, not twice but several times. Seek peace with an entity that nurtures terrorist camps on their lands and where the likes of Hafeez Saeed, Masood Azhar and Dawood roam free. I swear we are own enemies.

As for Wing Commander Abhinandan. You are a hero. You took down an F16 while flying an old Mig21 Bison. Beaten by their mob and paraded by the Pakistani army, which is against the Geneva convention. And yet, he spoke so calmly. He shall be free.

Pakistan says it will release captured Indian pilot as gesture of peace tomorrow .

Tomorrow is another day . What if further violation of LOC by Pakistani fighter jets occurs and situation escalates and Pakistan backtracks on its promise ? Let us hope for best .

https://www.livefistdefence.com/2019...f-16-kill.html

India claims the world's first F 16 kill , by a humble old mig 21 of the IAF .

The pilot of the Pakistani F 16 which was shot fell in Pakistan and the pakistani people who caught him killed him thinking that he was a downed Indian pilot !! Such barbarians !!

http://thewitness.in/t/pakistani-f-1...n/529?u=slayer

Well they gave back your pilot, seems like crisis averted

They tried to force him to say things against his own country and record a video of it . Played dirty tricks .

Because the Geneva conventions demands them to do that. Importantly they violated it, cause Geneva conventions also states that you cannot parade a prisoner of war, which they did. Also, made that disgusting 1:24 min or so long video, with 16 or so cuts, most probably forcing him to say things.

Overall I don't expect for things to cool down. We have shown that we can breach their borders to attack terrorists. And it's important to remember that. We attacked terrorist training centres, and we will most probably do it again, unless they don't shut down terror camps.

Today in an interview to CNN's Amanpour, Pakistan's foreign minister admitted that Jaish-e-muhammad's chief Masood Azhar is in Pakistan. Jaish is a UN designated terrorist organisation. Imagine any other foreign minister admitting such a thing.

They are waiting for America to withdraw their forces from Afghanistan. Once that happens, watch the Taliban, Jaish, LET and other assorted terrorist organisations, which are nurtured by Pakistan army and ISI, to multiply in huge numbers.

The US has been breaching Pakistan's borders to kill people for twenty years and it hasn't made a big difference. I don't think US/NATO pulling military forces out of Afghanistan is gonna make a big difference either, Kabul gets a suicide bomber a month whether we're there or not