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It took this long to figure it out?
How would anyone even begin to figure it out unless he said?



How would anyone even begin to figure it out unless he said?
I'm with you on this one. I didn't even have much presence here in the first place, lmao.



Pretty wide gap between the two extremes you’re talking about. Start a recommend me weird sh*t thread and have a blast.
I just think the weird sh*t belongs here as much as Casablanca, The Godfather, Psycho, Whiplash, Themroc, Shallow Hal, or Batman Returns. It’s the participating members’ jobs to separate the wheat from the chaff. As long as one participant believes it belongs in competition, it does.



I just think the weird sh*t belongs here as much as Casablanca, The Godfather, Psycho, Whiplash, Themroc, Shallow Hal, or Batman Returns. It’s the participating members’ jobs to separate the wheat from the chaff. As long as one participant believes it belongs in competition, it does.
Sounds like you’re advocating for having seen movies you nominate.



I just think the weird sh*t belongs here as much as Casablanca, The Godfather, Psycho, Whiplash, Themroc, Shallow Hal, or Batman Returns. It’s the participating members’ jobs to separate the wheat from the chaff. As long as one participant believes it belongs in competition, it does.
Well I did nominate Wedding Crashers once. Strangely it didn't get a lot of backlash.



The thing isolated becomes incomprehensible
Whoa, that escalated quickly!


My 2 cents on the issue (and this time I feel more at will to speak cause I'm actually watching these on time instead of letting everything to the last week)


HoFs are about diversity, more than anything. It's what makes most of us like them so much, i think, because we are presented to things we would never watch any other way. Ofc, sometimes we have to watch stuff we hate, but that's a small price to pay to have a film we would never even heard about become a huge favorite.


My reaction to Themroc was to the film, not to the user who picked it. There are people here with similar tastes to mine as well as people with drastically different taste to mine. And that's ok.


Also something that's very personal is the criterion with which we choose our noms. I personally like things I really enjoy but that I feel that most people didn't watch. Some people go with huge favourites even if they're movies that are hugely popular, other people go with experimental stuff and other people pick blind noms. If you ask me, I'd let blind noms to the special HoFs and run these with movies that we actually know and like but, again, it's just my opinion.


And it's funny, cause I've been thinking of suggesting a "blind nom HoF". That would be something!



I'm being lazy today...so I'm going to go watch Themroc right now. I'll be back with my review in an 1hour 40min...Well better give me a bit more time for snack breaks!



Bright light. Bright light. Uh oh.
How would anyone even begin to figure it out unless he said?
If you remember some of the posts and conversations you had with him in that incarnation - he showed up right around when I did. As far as HoFs go, I don't really have a right to comment, but if I did, I'd agree with nominating whatever you want.
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There was no indication that your 12x comment in your review was a joke. Before you even watched it you wrote this:
Sounds like you had issues about watching Themroc before even seeing it.

You did previously admit to altering your own voting ballot as a host, to change the outcome of the HoF results, based on the other members votes. So there's no reason why I shouldn't take your review at face value.

A rather long back and forth convo, but for anyone interested they should at least read some of the post to get an idea of what was being said.

https://www.movieforums.com/communit...07#post2061807

Or you mean breaking ties...what a monster


Yeah their was an indication that it was joke....

Neiba:

Themroc (1973)

So, it only took me one week to watch this...


I responded...


I watched it at 12X speed and got done in 15 minutes....
You know what...if you aren't going to screen noms then I'm only going to commit until after the reveals. Between the troll noms, and underage nudity that you people have allowed and refused to screen out I don't feel safe trusting you people..


course it's not as bad as breaking a TIE



Bicycle Thieves (1948) -


This was one of the few remaining well-known classic films which I hadn't seen before joining this HoF. I was a bit worried that it wouldn't live up to its reputation, but fortunately, it ended up blowing me away.

I noticed that some people here criticized how Antonio grows more and more unlikable as the film progresses, but I think that was actually the point of his character. Watching him slowly lose his humanity by acting forceful with the various people he encounters while the chances of him reclaiming his stolen bicycle kept diminishing was quite tragic. During his attempts to reclaim his stolen bicycle, he acts forceful with an elderly man, he rudely disrupts a church sermon, he slaps his son, and he acts forceful with a young boy and potentially causes him to have a seizure. I found the ending to be a powerful culmination to his arc as it showed how much the events of that day had changed him and lowered his morals.

The excellent twin performances from Lamberto Maggiorani (Antonio) and Enzo Staiola (Bruno) enhance the film's emotional core. Maggiorani is able to transmit so much of the desperation and hopelessness he experiences in the film through his facial expressions. Equally impressive is Staiola's performance. Despite being only 9 years old when this film was released and not having many lines, he reflects both the increasing desperation his father feels as the film progresses in addition to the direct and indirect pain his father causes him throughout the film onto his face. I found the final scene to be quite heartbreaking, in part due to the thematic implications of it and also due to the facial expressions from both actors.

While the emotional core to the film is compelling, this film is a lot more than just a story about a stolen bicycle. It's also a bleak portrait of the poverty which many Italians faced post-World War II. We see some immediate effects of this like crowds of people desperately trying to get jobs, people shoving past each other to get on buses, and people selling their personal possessions to get a job. The film also explores the various ways people coped with poverty, like resorting to thievery, falsely claiming they could see the future by becoming a fortune teller, or being a prostitute. Most of these effects weren't explored in much detail and were instead treated as backdrops to the main action, but they got under my skin regardless and made the film's scope both epic and intimate at the same time. In the chaotic, poverty stricken city shown in the film, Antonio's bicycle means everything to him and it's clear how vital it is that he reclaims it.

Next up: BlacKkKlansman



...You know what...if you aren't going to screen noms then I'm only going to commit until after the reveals. Between the troll noms, and underage nudity that you people have allowed and refused to screen out I don't feel safe trusting you people...
You want me to screen the noms??? Ugh and nope, the rules of the 25th HoF are clearly stated: any movie under 240 minutes that hasn't previously won can be nominated.



@Siddon you still did not directly answer my question...Did you watch Themroc in it's entirety and in normal viewing speed? A simple: Yes or No, will do.

*yes I know you said it was a 'joke', but now that the issue was raised and I decided your vote for that movie wouldn't count, I need a direct conformation from you, which I already asked you for once, so that I can reverse my decision. Consider it a parliamentary procedure.



@Siddon you still did not directly answer my question...Did you watch Themroc in it's entirety and in normal viewing speed? Yes or no?

*yes I know you said it was a 'joke', but now that the issue was raised and I decided your vote for that movie wouldn't count, I need a direct conformation from you, which I already asked you for once, so that I can reverse my decision. Consider it a parliamentary procedure.

I could think of about a dozen things you could directly do...including places you could go, things you could eat, and objects you could make love to.


I did watch it...but then again I might have blinked during the process of watching the film...is blinking okay? I don't want to break the sanctity of the Hall of Fame what is you blink per hour rule...is it based on quantity or length of said blink.


What exactly is the policy Herr Citizen on eye resting during these Hall's of fame.



I know you watched it, but the question was: at what speed setting did you use? Oh never mind, getting a direct answer out of you is sure tough I will include your ballot vote for Themroc and link it on the first post.



Les Mis: Thematically this movie is right up my alley. From the opening scene it pits the dogma of leagalistic Christianity against the true Christianity of caring for the less fortunate. That theme carries throughout and I love the story for that.

Unfortunately I think it needed to be twice as long to flesh out the characters and plot to the point where I could emotionally engage.

I think this will be a movie I respect more than love.




Themroc (1973)

I watched the whole thing and at REGULAR speed too! And boy was that a chore! I liked the film at first as it was like a silent era comedy film about a working class man who sure coughed a lot and liked looking at pretty girls in mini skirts...He reminded me of Benny Hill at this point of the film. I'm not sure who the younger girl was in his apartment who kept exposing her breast to him...gosh I hope that wasn't his sister! But after watching the weirdness I'm guessing it was.

I liked the social commentary from 1973...It doesn't matter if it's America or France, there was this baby boomer/hippie movement back then that endorsed, well just about anything and were definitely anti-establishment. Themroc is very anti-establishment and for that reason I found it's sociological time machine look back to the early 70s interesting.

The film wrapped up with our man (don't know what his name was, Themroc maybe?) tearing apart his apartment with a sledgehammer and throwing the trappings of modern life to the sidewalk below. Clearly another statement on rejecting commercialism & capitalism. The falling debris was interesting to watch, but only for awhile, that scene went on too long. I kept thinking the guy was going to fall out of that gaping hole in his third story apartment. I hope the actor had a rope tied onto his waist as it looked dangerous. The cops come of course and well you just have to see the 'pig' roast and orgy scene for yourself...But I never thought endless closeups of people's faces as they had orgasms could be so boring.

Themroc is a French absurdist social commentary film, very much like Siddon's nom for the 16th Mr Freedom (1969), I'm surprised he didn't love Themroc.

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The trick is not minding
I know I’m not in this, but since I do join regularly, I’m going to just simply state that if we screen noms and decide to not show certain movies because some people are bothered by certain movies, then we have failed in the spirit of the HOF.

Yes, Pretty Baby was a fine line. I didn’t object to it. Didn’t like it, of course. In a Glass Cage was similarly reviled by some. I happened to enjoy it and admired it for its cinematography, and actors, even if certain scenes were a little off putting.
I don’t regret viewing them. The HOF is meant to challenge me to view films I might not have otherwise found myself. Regardless of how I react to them, I don’t regret watching a single film in my lifetime, no matter how awful.
That being said, I do support the “wait and see approach” and have no issue if one decides they don’t want to join because of a certain movie may upset them.
Takoma does this, as well.