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Why should I have said that? Even if they are just trying to be digestible bits of fun, they don't exist in a vacuum. They are pieces of art (even the bad ones) and art reflects the world in which it is made to one extent or another, so it's only fair to analyse the choices that are made in these films and not automatically exempt them from criticism because they're fun and the masses love them.
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Why should I have said that? Even if they are just trying to be digestible bits of fun, they don't exist in a vacuum. They are pieces of art (even the bad ones) and art reflects the world in which it is made to one extent or another, so it's only fair to analyse the choices that are made in these films and not automatically exempt them from criticism because they're fun and the masses love them.
Not saying they are exempt from criticism. What I am saying is they can be two things at once and not necessarily be contradictory. I am sure if people were saying this should obviously be a pro military film so they should drop the twist, you would think that was silly. Not every piece of art is created to reinforce your values.
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Those are generalised statements that don't necessarily apply to Captain Marvel, though. I certainly question how much you can argue that the military's improved since the mid-'90s as the film is ostensibly being critical of modern military policy with its main antagonist being a militarised state that ruthlessly seeks to consolidate its power and creates its own enemies in the process, but at the same time they apparently need the Air Force's approval to tell Carol's heroic back-story and don't get much more critical than a bunch of airmen being sexist towards her. You want to say that I'd get annoyed at people saying this should be pro-military, but I'm arguing that it already kind of is and that the inconsistency of the approach is enough for me to question its conviction in its message and therefore its overall worth as a piece of art whether it personally reinforces my worldview or not.



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I had seen this in theaters when it first hit the streets, and although I enjoyed aspects of the movie, I found it sort of middling overall. I went to see it with a buddy of mine, as my wife had already decided she hated the character, even though she really had no reason to do so beyond her preconceived notions that the film was yet another vehicle for feminist propo. I don't really see it as such, or at least not especially so where it drops anvils on your head. I found Captain Marvel herself to be pretty bad ass, and i liked the use of music, both licensed and OST.

Meanwhile, after seeing Endgame, my wife sort of softened to the character, and mentioned she would watch CM when it hit video. Well, not only did she end up enjoying it (as well feel as feeling like an ass for avoiding the theater showing), but she now claims CM is one of her favorite Marvel characters.

Myself...I enjoyed it more on the second viewing. Larsen's comic delivery doesn't stick the landing some of the time, but i think she plays the character pretty well.
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I know I'll end up watching this because boyfriend and i watch every comic book movie that comes out but I have NEVER been so unamped to watch a movie. The (for me) sublime cluster**** of an unlikeable actress playing an unlikeable superhero will be epic in all the wrong ways.



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I swear I misread the thread topic as Captain Planet and got all excited because yesterday I randomly came across the old Don Cheadle's Captain Planet spoof and wanted to join in the fun here. As I was reading to catch up I just could not, for the life of me, figure out why Iro and Seanc would be in an argument over a Captain Planet live action movie.

Gah. I need coffee.

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Back to Marvel, I went in with low expectation but actually enjoyed it. Glowy-eyed super heroes darting through things should be more common.

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That is, in super hero movies. I don't think they should just be on every street corner or what have you. So that we're clear.

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And by street corners, I don't mean prostitution. Not necessarily.

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NOT to imply anyone standing on a street corner is, by default, a prostitute. NO! Nor a super hero. Let's not judge here, please.



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Now I'm just wondering what OP made of Endgame.



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Just bought this on VUDU, I'm pretty much on the same page as Sedai's comment, "I found it sort of middling overall." I don't think it was bad, and it generally entertains somewhat, it just didn't grab me. A film like Alien pulls you in, you are in that ship shoulder to shoulder with Ripley wondering which dark corner contains the creature. I felt like I was one of the humans Morpheus woke up from the Matrix. Great film can pull you in and you become a ghost character. I never lost my audience identity watching CM.
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I think it's a pretty interesting one but people were looking for more.



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I had seen this in theaters when it first hit the streets, and although I enjoyed aspects of the movie, I found it sort of middling overall. I went to see it with a buddy of mine, as my wife had already decided she hated the character, even though she really had no reason to do so beyond her preconceived notions that the film was yet another vehicle for feminist propo. I don't really see it as such, or at least not especially so where it drops anvils on your head. I found Captain Marvel herself to be pretty bad ass, and i liked the use of music, both licensed and OST.

Meanwhile, after seeing Endgame, my wife sort of softened to the character, and mentioned she would watch CM when it hit video. Well, not only did she end up enjoying it (as well feel as feeling like an ass for avoiding the theater showing), but she now claims CM is one of her favorite Marvel characters.

Myself...I enjoyed it more on the second viewing. Larsen's comic delivery doesn't stick the landing some of the time, but i think she plays the character pretty well.
Watched it yesterday, similar thoughts to above. Reminded me of Black Panther giving me a bit of a meh feeling. 7/10

Some initial thoughts,

- From a story point of view where has CM been all this time during prev crisis?
- Introducing a mega powerful hero like this just means they have to write in ways to get rid of her for most of the movie, see Endgame, Superman, Charles Xavier.
- She isn't much of a character, just makes snide remarks and gets angry, not enough depth.
- They captured the essence of the mid 90's very well, just as well as the Coen's did the 80's in No Country. Was funny to see and be reminded of slow boot up internet and box monitors.
- She doesn't ever really have much of a challenge to overcome other than getting her memories straight, once she goes full power she just nukes everything in front of her without a scratch, good villains are more important the heroes themselves.
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Rewatched this, and I think this is still a good 3/5 stars or so. Brie Larson's attitude and portrayal of the character are still really unique in my eyes, and the humor was great when they went for it.



Rented this last night. It was fine. Not exciting at all, only a few interesting moments. Most of the enjoyment comes from the prequel-y hookups between the things we know and how they come to be.

Kinda weird that she never really seems to face a major challenge. She's basically invincible. That can work, but I think they kinda shortchanged whatever struggle they were trying to convey, because the end should be a huge release, when she finally breaks out and just basically destroys everything at will.

I agree her character is weird. I'm not sure if that's bad! It's just weird. Understated, wry. I think I like the general mood they had for her, but it might have worked better if they gave her more to say, and made it a bit more consistently witty/scathing/dry. Instead it was dryness with a lot of quips that weren't very quiplike. But I did appreciate that it wasn't just a boring archetype, exactly.

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Forget politics, the movie itself is just bland.

On my “Best Comic Book Movies of All-Time” list I place Captain Marvel at #36. Shows you the extent of its blandness. It’s not offensively bad but it is annoyingly below average. Better than such things as X-Men Origins: Wolverine and Rise of the Silver Surfer but not by much. Captain Marvel being close to that quality is a stunning turn for the MCU and certainly the worst effort the studio has produced in their existence.

In a strange analogy, Captain Marvel is to Marvel Studios what the Vietnam War was to America. Controversial endeavor that the powers to be deemed necessary but overall detrimental. To quote Bill Murray’s Stripes: “We've been kickin' ass for 200 years. We're 10 and 1.” Well, Marvel Studios is now 20-1 but that’s still a damn good win loss record! Still a fan of the MCU and hoping for a return to glory for the MCU with Endgame.
This was well put to me. Saw it on very low quality a few months ago. I just can't bring myself to pay money to see a Brie Larsen movie. But to put that aside and be objective you summed up her performance and the movie in a word. Bland.

Brie just doesn't have superhero charisma to me. Which is magnified when the character itself is just as uncharismatic and boring as her. Then you top the character off with why Superman has problems translating to screen, she is invincible. What are her weaknesses? Even Superman has kryptonite. I guess chauvinistic men? Let's be real they had to send her away to "police" the universe for End Game. She would have beat Thanos with her pinky finger if she was there the whole time. Her kryptonite is attendance. And her being so small in stature just doesn't help me believe she is some Superman like figure. I just think she was miss cast honestly. Maybe she will grow into the role, I just don't see it.

I think you are bit harsh on the movie itself. It's very forgettable. Not some touchstone movie like Brie would like you to think for females, that was Wonder Woman by a mile. I didn't feel shamed for being a male by watching Wonder Woman, I actually felt empowered myself. Thought Patty handled that beautifully. And Gal as Wonder Woman blows Brie's Captain Marvel out of the water imo.

But I wouldn't call it bad, it had entertaining moments. Ant-Man and the Wasp is the MCU's worse movie I hated that movie, which is a shame because I really liked the first one.
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