Are today's audience too sensitive when it comes to sexual aggression?

That's what spoilt it for me, much prefer the original version. Had it been called Jack And Rose I wouldn't have gone to watch it.

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Well said!

There are definitely films from an earlier era that show what would be considered sexual harassment in a positive light but equally I think there are also situations were films get criticism for something that wasn't ment to be viewed as positive.

Blade Runner comes to mind for me with Deckard being aggressive with Rachael when she rejects his advances, I mean yes part of it is shown to be his thinking she needs to be pressured to get over her doubts but also I think its intended to be a comment on his character. Highlighting that this is a man who's just shot a woman in the back twice as she was running away, he might have a kinder side to him but the killer hasn't been redeemed by that point.

When Deckard slams the door and forces Rachael against the wall in a passionate kiss...that's about him awaking dormant emotions in her, as she's a replicant and her emotional state isn't fully developed yet.

It's true some modern (younger) audiences see that scene as 'rapey'. I'm surprised Ridley Scott didn't alter it, hell he altered the rest of the movie to match changing times.

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I remember when Titanic was nominated for so many academy awards, what a disappointment.

Depicting sexual aggression whether it be rape, date rape, etc. must be approached carefully by the artist in general and I think that is a good thing. To glorify men who force themselves sexually on a women is never good. There is a difference between depicting sexual aggression as a thing that happens, and glorifying it. I think date rape occurs to often because guys don't distinguish between seduction and forcing themselves on someone. Some of this can be blamed, of all things, on the movies for not drawing a distinction between what is acceptable and what is just wrong. Having said that I watch movies like Blue Velvet (Which is about as bad as it can be on this issue) because the guilty character is never presented as anything but pure bat*&^$ crazy, and in no way says it is okay.) Something like The Accused which makes us aware that a women was raped in public without intervention (and with people cheering on the aggressor), and that is how low we have descended as a culture, can be helpful. Lets hear from more of the women out there.

I like them both.

And yes, I don't think that rape and date-rape should be portrayed in a positive light, it's just that sometimes guys will be forceful and a woman will get turned on by the agression and respond positively to it. But nowadays it's scene as a crime for a woman to be turned on by sexual aggression, and I feel that we need to take a step back and say it's okay for a woman to be turned on by it, especially since older examples like Lady in Cement and Thunderball, were able to portray the aggression in a positive turned on way.

Pornography is also very much at fault here. Adolescent boys, e.g., are freely watching porn & becoming very confused as to what women really want & when they want it.

I think it was Tiffany Haddish who, rather amusingly, said if a man has his dick out & the woman is fully clothed, something is very wrong there.

What about the movie Basic Instinct and how it portrays how aggressive Michael Douglas's character was with Jeanne Tripplehorn's character? Was that glorifying it or going too far over the line possibly? But the movie was pretty popular, so were audiences okay with that, especially since the Tripplehorn character still had an orgasm in the end, so maybe therefore, it's just an example of a woman being turned on by sexual aggression, and not be taken negatively?

I think the key here to Iron Pony's original question is that back in the 60s and 70s a movie could show a man being aggressive/rapey towards a woman and the movie could treat that flippantly and get away with it. But today's younger audience is more likely to be offended by that.

Well I feel like some people are turned on by the aggression though, even in real life conversations with friends, so I think it could be portrayed as realistic as well, couldn't it?

Plus it doesn't always have to be a man being agressive towards a woman, one of my examples before was a woman aggressive towards a man, but it's still seen as politically incorrect for a woman, which I find to be silly, since a casual steamy affair is suppose to be politically incorrect to begin with, isn't it?

But today's audience thinks that if a man and woman are going to engage in a sexually aggressive forbidding affair with sexual power involved and they are going to like it, then it has to be done in the most politically correct way possible, and removing the power element mostly.

Well why would their be a change on the BR scene, did something happen in the 2000s that caused views to change on movie scenes like that more so?

I've not seen the film in question but I'd like to point out that having an orgasm has absolutely nothing to do with consent and doesn't even mean that the person having the orgasm is enjoying what is happening. What people are thinking does not always align with how their body reacts.

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That's true, sorry I should have been more specific. After she had the orgasm she started kissing him back and sucking on his fingers in enjoyment, so I thought she was enjoying it then. Cause if she wasn't then she wouldn't be sucking on his fingers after having the orgasm, would she?

Right. Unfortunately, a rape victim can have an orgasm. A woman can even have an orgasm when giving birth.

Sorry I meant to say she had a positive orgasm, cause she was sucking his finger during and kissing him, as oppose to a negative orgasm, that she did not embrace.

Had no idea there are positive & negative orgasms! Does @Miss Vicky know this?

This says a lot about this topic. I know some of you might think I am trying to be PC, but that is not my concern at all. I am not even saying that sexual aggression in movies is wrong, or bad or whatever. What I am saying is just because something is portrayed in a movie does not make it so. Just because a scene depicts a woman being excited by "sexual aggression" doesn't mean anything, except the scene was probably written by a man. I just wonder if women, as a whole, truly believe it is a turn on, and if women don't like sexual aggression in movies, as suggested above, why would they like it in real life. If women don't like sexual aggression in movies I doubt it is because of the "me to" movement, they probably just don't like it or worse.