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i really like this movie, brodinski i see where your coming from but i found some bits off the film funny.
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I liked this movie a lot.. it was an entertaining piece of cinema.
Brodinski, I can understand and respect your views. About your questions, they are more of views than actual questions.
Aboit how they meet for the first time. It's clear that Big Daddy learns of the new hero through media and keeps a watch on him... It wouldn't be exactly difficult to track down Kick-ass, since he moves around so casually in his costume..
Brodinski, I can understand and respect your views. About your questions, they are more of views than actual questions.
Aboit how they meet for the first time. It's clear that Big Daddy learns of the new hero through media and keeps a watch on him... It wouldn't be exactly difficult to track down Kick-ass, since he moves around so casually in his costume..
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Nic cage's character is supposed to be more of an action junkie than just a guy hellbent on seeking revenge.
So, seeing his daughter kick all bad asses makes him proud. He has trained her to be strong, fearless and also an action junkie like himself...
Mainly the theme of the movie is about action junkies... it parodies modern day comics and vigilante action movies...
About the Few Dollars More theme, I agree, though I wouldn't use the word "Abuse", It just didn't fit right for the scene... Maybe music from Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction would fit the scene better.. (that's just my opinion.)
So, seeing his daughter kick all bad asses makes him proud. He has trained her to be strong, fearless and also an action junkie like himself...
Mainly the theme of the movie is about action junkies... it parodies modern day comics and vigilante action movies...
About the Few Dollars More theme, I agree, though I wouldn't use the word "Abuse", It just didn't fit right for the scene... Maybe music from Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction would fit the scene better.. (that's just my opinion.)
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The comic was a bit average in comparison... I think the changes made in the movie were decent and acceptable.
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The need for the shock value of "that word" being used by Hit Girl was lost on me however.
Made me cringe and marred an otherwise excellent action sequence
Made me cringe and marred an otherwise excellent action sequence
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WARNING: violent illustrations below.
I loved this movie.
I was actually a little worried when I first heard about it since I had read the comic first.
I was afraid they would have hired older actors for the parts (especially for the Hit Girl character) if they were going to stay true to the swearing and violence.
When I saw the first trailer I saw that they had younger actors playing Kick-Ass and Hit Girl but then I feared it would be a goofy kiddy superhero flick nothing like the comic.
Then I saw the restricted trailer.
Soon as I heard Hit girl say "I'm just f*cking with you, Daddy" and "Ok, you c*nts lets see what you can do" I was happy.
The fact that they didn't ruin it with older actors or milder violence is what made me like this movie more.
The movie was actually a lot tamer than the comic but better in many ways.
I hope we get a sequel one day soon.
I loved this movie.
I was actually a little worried when I first heard about it since I had read the comic first.
I was afraid they would have hired older actors for the parts (especially for the Hit Girl character) if they were going to stay true to the swearing and violence.
When I saw the first trailer I saw that they had younger actors playing Kick-Ass and Hit Girl but then I feared it would be a goofy kiddy superhero flick nothing like the comic.
Then I saw the restricted trailer.
Soon as I heard Hit girl say "I'm just f*cking with you, Daddy" and "Ok, you c*nts lets see what you can do" I was happy.
The fact that they didn't ruin it with older actors or milder violence is what made me like this movie more.
The movie was actually a lot tamer than the comic but better in many ways.
I hope we get a sequel one day soon.
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I just saw this the other day as well. I liked it muchly. 
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I knew nothing about the comic books before seeing this, so based on the trailer, I thought this would be more geared towards kids. I was as wrong as George Lucas when he said "Yes, I WILL make 'Howard the Duck'!!"
Afterwards I saw the MPAA rating:
"Rated R for strong brutal violence throughout, pervasive language, sexual content, nudity and some drug use - some involving children"
Had I seen this rating beforehand, I would have quit my job and camped out two weeks ahead of time to see this. I was entertained from beginning to end. Hit-Girl was the best character I've seen in a while. But I can see why some people (nuns and the Amish) may not appreciate her. I thought it was funny as hell too. Great movie that will make its way into my DVD collection ASAP.
Afterwards I saw the MPAA rating:
"Rated R for strong brutal violence throughout, pervasive language, sexual content, nudity and some drug use - some involving children"
Had I seen this rating beforehand, I would have quit my job and camped out two weeks ahead of time to see this. I was entertained from beginning to end. Hit-Girl was the best character I've seen in a while. But I can see why some people (nuns and the Amish) may not appreciate her. I thought it was funny as hell too. Great movie that will make its way into my DVD collection ASAP.
Hit Girl was great as a kid she had teh dual identity sorted.
foul mouthed ruthless killer with the costume on
and in the day time nice sweet Mindy.
there have been talks about a sequel but i think Mark Millar was gonna do the comic first close behind the film.
Matthew Vaughn is doing X-Men first class so he's gotta get that out the way first
foul mouthed ruthless killer with the costume on
and in the day time nice sweet Mindy.
there have been talks about a sequel but i think Mark Millar was gonna do the comic first close behind the film.
Matthew Vaughn is doing X-Men first class so he's gotta get that out the way first
I saw it last night and was very underwhelmed and even slightly disgusted by it. Spoiler alert, don't read any further if you haven't seen it.
The way in which the different characters meet is just forced. Seriously, a 9-year-old-girl who just happens to be a deus ex machina when kick ass is about to het knifed by a drug dealer. She kills all of those guys easily and then her dad shoots the remaining guy and complains that she left her guard down. Really? Is that supposed to be ironic? Did anyone actually laugh when Nic Cage was on fire, but still screaming instructions at his daughters on how to best shoot the baddies? What the hell was Vaugh attempting to do here?
I take it that this movie is supposed to be a satire, but can anyone explain to me what it is supposed to be a satire of? The whole superhero genre? It attempts to satirize this by having a child kill baddies for a hobby? Seriously, was I the only one who aksed himself questions about this? It's supposed to be ironic, but just imagine if I make a movie that features a child ending up in ironic sex scenes. Would my movie also be regarded as an ironic satire? To me, Vaughn is just using this irony and supposed "coolness" to distance himself from the fact that he shows a little girl getting her ass kicked by a grown-up at the end of the movie.
What I'm saying is, what is the meaning of this movie? Does it have a purpose? And don't say: "yes, its purpose is being funny", because it simply isn't funny. Call me old-fashioned but I truly believe that this movie is a disgusting unfunny piece of commercial trash. And to make matters worse, it abused the iconic Morricone theme from For A Few Dollars More in a downright silly scene.
So if anyone can answer my questions, that would be swell. It's not going to stop me disliking this movie, but maybe I'll be able to understand it.
The way in which the different characters meet is just forced. Seriously, a 9-year-old-girl who just happens to be a deus ex machina when kick ass is about to het knifed by a drug dealer. She kills all of those guys easily and then her dad shoots the remaining guy and complains that she left her guard down. Really? Is that supposed to be ironic? Did anyone actually laugh when Nic Cage was on fire, but still screaming instructions at his daughters on how to best shoot the baddies? What the hell was Vaugh attempting to do here?
I take it that this movie is supposed to be a satire, but can anyone explain to me what it is supposed to be a satire of? The whole superhero genre? It attempts to satirize this by having a child kill baddies for a hobby? Seriously, was I the only one who aksed himself questions about this? It's supposed to be ironic, but just imagine if I make a movie that features a child ending up in ironic sex scenes. Would my movie also be regarded as an ironic satire? To me, Vaughn is just using this irony and supposed "coolness" to distance himself from the fact that he shows a little girl getting her ass kicked by a grown-up at the end of the movie.
What I'm saying is, what is the meaning of this movie? Does it have a purpose? And don't say: "yes, its purpose is being funny", because it simply isn't funny. Call me old-fashioned but I truly believe that this movie is a disgusting unfunny piece of commercial trash. And to make matters worse, it abused the iconic Morricone theme from For A Few Dollars More in a downright silly scene.
So if anyone can answer my questions, that would be swell. It's not going to stop me disliking this movie, but maybe I'll be able to understand it.
I don't see how anyone could have such a strong reaction to a movie such as this.
Sure, the violence is over the top, and basically senseless, but what's so wrong with that? It's still just a movie. If you don't find it interesting, or entertaining, there's nothing wrong with that, but don't bring "morals" into it. These are fictional characters committing fictional violence.
Some people enjoy cartoonishly over the top violence, some don't. Done right, I think it can be a pretty visceral experience. This has nothing to do with morals. The fact that it's an 11 year old girl committing the violence in this movie only increases the shock value, but the fact that I found it ridiculously entertaining doesn't mean that I'm any less moral. I don't all of a sudden condone beating my son.
Besides, this movie had a very solid emotional core. The overall tone and message of the movie is positive. Fight for what you believe in, etc. The blackout/shootout scene was downright heart-wrenching. I really connected with the characters.
I personally believe trying to compare violence to sex, in minors or adults, is absurd. If we want to bring morals into the picture, there is a huge difference in watching a comic book villain punch an 11 year old heroin that just finished cartoonishly killing 11 people in a hallway while doing flips off of walls and 360 spins in the air, and watching child pornography.
Eh, to each his own..
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I haven't watched it yet (I will on DVD), but I always go out of my way to make sure that my opinions on what's a good movie are based more on successful scripting, acting, directing, etc., rather than subject matter, although I'll admit that it is possible for a film to be beyond the pale in subject matter. It's just that if its sole reason for being is to shock, then most people will decide for themselves if it's worth watching. Wait a sec, maybe I should say most "intelligent, thoughtful" people, but I don't have anything to say about this one yet.
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I don't like arguing about movies that a lot of folks haven't seen yet. But the flick is about revenge. I think I can say that without spoiling the whole thing. I think, if not, I'm sorry.
Honestly, the whole naughty dialog thing pretty much flew over my head. I was pretty caught up in the ride. Big surprise there, I come from the wrong side of tracks. I was hanging out with 8 year old kids back in the 80's that made this little girl sound like a princess. But maybe that's just me.
Honestly, the whole naughty dialog thing pretty much flew over my head. I was pretty caught up in the ride. Big surprise there, I come from the wrong side of tracks. I was hanging out with 8 year old kids back in the 80's that made this little girl sound like a princess. But maybe that's just me.
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I don't see how anyone could have such a strong reaction to a movie such as this.
Sure, the violence is over the top, and basically senseless, but what's so wrong with that? It's still just a movie. If you don't find it interesting, or entertaining, there's nothing wrong with that, but don't bring "morals" into it. These are fictional characters committing fictional violence.
Some people enjoy cartoonishly over the top violence, some don't. Done right, I think it can be a pretty visceral experience. This has nothing to do with morals. The fact that it's an 11 year old girl committing the violence in this movie only increases the shock value, but the fact that I found it ridiculously entertaining doesn't mean that I'm any less moral. I don't all of a sudden condone beating my son.
Besides, this movie had a very solid emotional core. The overall tone and message of the movie is positive. Fight for what you believe in, etc. The blackout/shootout scene was downright heart-wrenching. I really connected with the characters.
I personally believe trying to compare violence to sex, in minors or adults, is absurd. If we want to bring morals into the picture, there is a huge difference in watching a comic book villain punch an 11 year old heroin that just finished cartoonishly killing 11 people in a hallway while doing flips off of walls and 360 spins in the air, and watching child pornography.
Eh, to each his own..
Sure, the violence is over the top, and basically senseless, but what's so wrong with that? It's still just a movie. If you don't find it interesting, or entertaining, there's nothing wrong with that, but don't bring "morals" into it. These are fictional characters committing fictional violence.
Some people enjoy cartoonishly over the top violence, some don't. Done right, I think it can be a pretty visceral experience. This has nothing to do with morals. The fact that it's an 11 year old girl committing the violence in this movie only increases the shock value, but the fact that I found it ridiculously entertaining doesn't mean that I'm any less moral. I don't all of a sudden condone beating my son.
Besides, this movie had a very solid emotional core. The overall tone and message of the movie is positive. Fight for what you believe in, etc. The blackout/shootout scene was downright heart-wrenching. I really connected with the characters.
I personally believe trying to compare violence to sex, in minors or adults, is absurd. If we want to bring morals into the picture, there is a huge difference in watching a comic book villain punch an 11 year old heroin that just finished cartoonishly killing 11 people in a hallway while doing flips off of walls and 360 spins in the air, and watching child pornography.
Eh, to each his own..
Yes, I have strong feelings about this movie. Isn't the whole purpose of a movie to evoke emotions from its viewer? Kick-Ass succeeded, but in a negative way.
Like I said, I truly believe that this movie has crossed a boundary. Matthew Vaughn apparantely wanted to satirize superhero movies. It actually took me a while to understand what the hell this movie tries to do. But in my opinion, Vaughn abuses this satirical tone to justify the fact that an 11-year-old girl emotionlessly kills bad guys, gets shot by her own father and finally gets beaten up by an adultin one of the final scenes. That's what I call a blatant misuse of the satirical undertone of Kick-Ass to gain greater commercial profits.
And as to your argument that it's only a movie, it just isn't. By saying that it is just a movie, you have overthrown your own argument that a comparison between child violence in a movie and underage sex in a movie is invalid. If it's just a movie, then what does it matter what is shown, whether it be a child killing an adult or a minor having sex with an adult.
Like Isaid, if these kind of things (child killing adults, getting beaten up by an adult) are accepted nowadays, then where do you draw the line?
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Hey Fiscal, you know this flick was based on a comic, yeah? I think you're getting a little worked up over the film when perhaps you should be upset at a different medium.
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Like I said, if these kind of things (child killing adults, getting beaten up by an adult) are accepted nowadays, then where do you draw the line?
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Hey Fiscal, I hadn't seen until today that you reacted to my post. Hence the late reply, but better late than never. Again, SPOILERS, stop reading here if you haven't seen it yet.
Like I said, I truly believe that this movie has crossed a boundary. Matthew Vaughn apparantely wanted to satirize superhero movies. It actually took me a while to understand what the hell this movie tries to do. But in my opinion, Vaughn abuses this satirical tone to justify the fact that an 11-year-old girl emotionlessly kills bad guys, gets shot by her own father and finally gets beaten up by an adultin one of the final scenes. That's what I call a blatant misuse of the satirical undertone of Kick-Ass to gain greater commercial profits.
And as to your argument that it's only a movie, it just isn't. By saying that it is just a movie, you have overthrown your own argument that a comparison between child violence in a movie and underage sex in a movie is invalid. If it's just a movie, then what does it matter what is shown, whether it be a child killing an adult or a minor having sex with an adult.
Like Isaid, if these kind of things (child killing adults, getting beaten up by an adult) are accepted nowadays, then where do you draw the line?
Like Isaid, if these kind of things (child killing adults, getting beaten up by an adult) are accepted nowadays, then where do you draw the line?
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