Oh, that's rich... Bandwagon, indeed. I would say at least 70% of the member base on this site is hard core left, with a small platoon or centrists/libertarians/whatever (like me) kicking around, and then a small base of right-wingers. One need only pop into the Election '08 thread to see the slew of people battling with Yoda to see this is true.
Bandwagon? Most of the people in the debates over this election are Obama supporters. The only other regular participant in these arguments has been 7thson, and I don't believe he was involved in our first argument at all. This explanation doesn't wash.
Sorry if my explanation doesn't "wash" with you, but I'm pretty sure most people can relate If they recently joined a new forum, jumped into a political debate, then came to find the owner fo the site was openly on the opposite side of your political affiliation, and then found themselves outnumbered 3 and 4 to 1 in each of the threads they debated politcs on, they wouldn't quite see that as a "fair and balanced" healthy political debate atmosphere as you seem to be mischaracterizing it.
Perhaps if these magical mystery liberals came out of the woodwork to voice their opinions, I might have viewed it as you seem to be.
The above claim supposes two things:
1 - You are correct in all your views, and therefore defending you is the only right thing to do.
2 - Any disagreement with you is brown nosing, which is silly.
1 - You are correct in all your views, and therefore defending you is the only right thing to do.
2 - Any disagreement with you is brown nosing, which is silly.
Click on the link I gave above. Look at the quotes of yours in those boxes. Then remember that you gave all my posts negative rep -- even the ones that weren't addressed to you. Then come back here and accuse me of being "snide" and "dissuasive" with a straight face. Or perhaps you could address that accusation to the nearest mirror.
That said, I can't support bloated policy.
The "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" notion is devoid any practical, working realistic insight into the socioeonomic "culture" of poverty. there is no pulling yourself up by a bootstrap, when there are no bootstraps to pull. I always laugh at that uninformed lack of relation for being so grossly out of touch. If the people saying that were born and raised into a culture where it was "cool" to refuse education, and see themseves as "different" than responsible and emotionally balanced members of society, they almost certainly wouldn't be where they are now talking about "bootstraps".
It's because of heartless, vainglorious, culturally detached misconeptions like that, the statistical failure of "trickle down economics", and alarmist/ isolationist war-mongering, that I choose to vote blue.
Last edited by Videodrome; 10-16-08 at 07:10 PM.