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Powdered Water
08-27-10, 10:19 PM
When I was younger in the group home they took us to see movies quite a bit. I must have seen Dirty Dancing at least 20 times. I went and saw it again when they re-released it and I'll see it again the next time it comes back for some big annual event.
Miss Vicky
08-27-10, 10:20 PM
20+ times in the theater? Wow.
The most I've done is 5 (Gladiator).
Powdered Water
08-27-10, 10:24 PM
I went to The Matrix three times on its opening day. There's something so exclusively cool about being in a room full of folks that just saw the same thing you did and most of them went right out and bought another ticket so they could see it again. And then we just sit there buzzing about it until it starts up again.
planet news
08-27-10, 10:27 PM
Bought another ticket? I would think that would be the prime-time to theater hop.
rauldc14
08-28-10, 12:04 AM
Now this list is just getting better and better. Would have loved to see Cuckoo's Nest a bit deeper in this, but 51 isn't bad.
TheUsualSuspect
08-28-10, 01:22 AM
Love me some City of God.
Tacitus
08-28-10, 05:33 AM
Right? I mean, I admit, I'm a sucker for stories like that. But man, Slumdog was even worse. I love how so many folks claim they can't stand Hollywood and their cookie cutter flicks and then a flick like Slumdog comes along; adds a little "shock and realism" to the equation and BLAMMO! Best Picture winner. "It's just so real for me man!"
It's about as real as fairytales get, I suppose.
TheGirlWhoHadAllTheLuck_
08-28-10, 06:41 AM
I don't think it's supposed to be realistic. It's supposed to be 'feel-good'.
honeykid
08-28-10, 10:59 AM
It's supposed to be feel-good?:eek: I wanted to kill myself after seeing that film.
planet news
08-28-10, 01:14 PM
Comparing Slumdog to City of God is like comparing Disney's Brother Bear to Herzog's Grizzly Man.
:up: That's definitely getting rep. Great analogy.
Slumdog Millionaire definitely isn't meant to be "real," to my mind. It's over-the-top. Heck, they dance over the credits. If someone actually did come out of that saying "wow, great, it was SO REAL!" then they saw a completely different movie than I did. Granted, there's a fine line between films that depict poverty and hardship and those that are "real," because the former is a bit part of the latter, but that's one of the things that makes Slumdog so interesting.
Tacitus
08-28-10, 01:42 PM
I think there's a bit of confusion going on here.
Slumdog Millionaire = Feelgood, not City of God. No?
honeykid
08-28-10, 02:15 PM
I think there's a bit of confusion going on here.
Slumdog Millionaire = Feelgood, not City of God. No?
I understand that, Tacitus. That's the film I meant. I loved City Of God, but Slumdog... We need a smilie hanging itself or blowing its smilie brains out for me to emoticon how that film made me feel.
planet news
08-28-10, 02:28 PM
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honeykid
08-28-10, 02:35 PM
This is exactly how that film made me feel.
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Good work, PN.
LuDiNaToR
08-28-10, 03:01 PM
ive seen 3 of the list haha i need to watch more movies.
WBadger
08-29-10, 09:44 PM
50. The Silence of the Lambs (1991, Demme)
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Total Points Earned: 61
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Quite happy to see this here, though whereas most of the films I've liked on the list so far, I don't mind that this isn't higher. This feels about right, to me.
Classicqueen13
08-30-10, 06:59 PM
I think quite a few from my Top 100 made it :)
WBadger
08-30-10, 10:04 PM
49. The Third Man (1948, Reed)
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Total Points Earned: 62
Compared to Previous List: http://unassistedsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Down-Arrow.jpg 2 spots
planet news
08-30-10, 11:10 PM
Too low! :cool:
Harry Lime
08-30-10, 11:26 PM
There we go.
Powdered Water
08-31-10, 01:06 AM
Like that flick, eh?
What is it about that flick that appeals to you so much anyway? If I may be so bold as to ask, good sir.
Harry Lime
08-31-10, 01:23 AM
It's really, really, really, really good.
Honestly, pretty well every aspect of the film. Writing, directing, acting, cinematography, editing, Harry Lime, that zither, the subject matter in relation to that moment of history in that part of the world, the way it all unfolds and how it's presented to us. In other words: flawless. Man, Harry Lime's entrance alone would almost be enough to sell me on that film being one of the greatest. Like I said, it's really good.
I could go into great detail, but I've never been one who finds enjoyment or reward in spending my time writing essays/reviews about films. Plus, I have to go to work soon. Yes, that's right. Stay in school, kids. Get that college diploma.
wintertriangles
08-31-10, 01:28 AM
that zitherthat is the one thing I really didn't think, possibly the only thing
rauldc14
08-31-10, 01:38 AM
LOVE me some Silence of the Lambs. A higher ranking would have been more justifiable though :p
Harry Lime
08-31-10, 01:39 AM
that is the one thing I really didn't think, possibly the only thing
I don't think Yoda did either. I recall a conversation with him after he watched it for the first time awhile back. To each their own.
wintertriangles
08-31-10, 01:40 AM
I don't think Yoda did either. I recall a conversation with him after he watched it for the first time awhile back. To each their own.I love the zither though, maybe if it wasn't used for the whole soundtrack and just the day scenes it would make more sense to me
genesis_pig
08-31-10, 01:59 AM
To me the best thing about The Third Man was Lime's entrance & the underground finale..
& it's biggest pride is that it doesn't age... it's immortal..
Maybe that's why they never remade it, even though movies have been loosely based on it.
Now if they could remake it with Steven Seagal, Our very own MoFo's Harry Lime would be the happiest man alive.
Harry Lime
08-31-10, 02:01 AM
Now if they could remake it with Steven Seagal...
In a perfect world...
honeykid
08-31-10, 11:19 AM
LOVE me some Silence of the Lambs. A higher ranking would have been more justifiable though :p
If SotL had been higher than The Third Man, I may've had to kill somebody.
I don't think Yoda did either. I recall a conversation with him after he watched it for the first time awhile back. To each their own.
You are correct, sir. I didn't think it fit the atmosphere much, and I didn't find it as catchy as everyone else apparently did. But it was interesting and stood out (both for good and ill), and I didn't particularly dislike it, either.
Shabutie
08-31-10, 03:38 PM
I find Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, as well as Black Hawk Down, overrated.
Shabutie
08-31-10, 03:44 PM
I think that The Professional and Signs are highly overrated. The Professional was better than Signs but, Signs was still pretty good. The entire aliens on TV concept was great (the bird running into the ship, and the alien at that birthday party).
We've had a lot of discussions on here about how discussion about what's "overrated" is overrated. It relies not only on people's subjective idea of the film's quality, but of their incredibly vague of how other people rate films in general, which usually varies widely and isn't really anchored in much other than some hazy feel.
Shabutie
08-31-10, 04:34 PM
I just don't think Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, The Professional, or Signs are some of the greatest movies of all time.
Shabutie
08-31-10, 04:40 PM
We've had a lot of discussions on here about how discussion about what's "overrated" is overrated. It relies not only on people's subjective idea of the film's quality, but of their incredibly vague of how other people rate films in general, which usually varies widely and isn't really anchored in much other than some hazy feel.
Fair enough.
WBadger
08-31-10, 05:03 PM
48. Heat (1995, Mann)
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Total Points Earned: 64
Compared to Previous List: NEW
genesis_pig
08-31-10, 05:18 PM
Heat is a good film, I would give it 6/10.... But I will never get the hype.
Thursday Next
08-31-10, 05:22 PM
I just don't think Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, The Professional, or Signs are some of the greatest movies of all time.
But this isn't a list of the 'greatest movies of all time', this is a compilation of the favourite films of those people who bothered to participate. Nobody thinks anyone else's personal top 100, or top 25, or whatever is a list of 'the greatest movies of all time', probably not even the person who compiled the list, you've always got your childhood favourites or guilty pleasures hiding in there somewhere.
I still don't get all this complaining that films 'shouldn't be there' (they are there because some people like them), or 'should be higher' (they would be higher if more people liked them enough to place them higher in their lists). Nobody's going to like the whole top 100. We didn't pick 100 films so even if all your top 25 made it, the other 75 are an unknown quantity.
Brodinski
08-31-10, 07:18 PM
A number of parallels can be drawn between Heat and Melville's Le Cercle Rouge. In both films, both criminals and cops are depicted as super professionals that are the best at what they do. And in both films, a heist (money in Heat; jewellery in Le Cercle Rouge) is planned and executed meticulously. Underlying themes of camaraderie also shine through in both films (McCauley goes through with the bank robbery because the other members of his crew are behind it; Vogel tries to come to Delon's and Jansen's rescue in Le Cercle Rouge).
I think too highly of Heat to consider it a lesser film than Le Cercle Rouge.In fact, Heat is probably as good a crime film as I've ever seen. I'm not saying it's without fault, but at its best, it's just great. I find the main story as well as most of the sub-plots to be very compelling; the action sequences (that opening heist and the bank robbery) are exhilarating and the acting is superb, except for maybe Pacino who can be a bit over the top sometimes. Throughout the 3 hour runtime, I wasn't bored a single minute.
The influence that Melville's seminal Le Cercle Rouge had on Heat is clear, but I consider both to be masterpieces in their genre. Therefore, Heat certainly belongs on this list according to me.
meatwadsprite
08-31-10, 09:35 PM
Heat is a good film, I would give it 6/10.... But I will never get the hype.
We've read each other's posts yes, but I will not hesitate, not for a second.
rauldc14
08-31-10, 09:37 PM
Heat deserves to be on the list. Interesting that it made it this far down.
WBadger
09-01-10, 06:42 PM
47. Reservoir Dogs (1992, Tarantino)
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Total Points Earned: 64
Compared to Previous List: NEW
honeykid
09-02-10, 01:02 PM
Reservoir Dogs. It's been a while, but that's a proper bloody film. :up:
Cries&Whispers
09-02-10, 01:07 PM
Reservoir Dogs. It's been a while, but that's a proper bloody film. :up:
Key word. ;)
Holy sh*t, that is the first film I've seen HK give a thumbs up :p
The Prestige
09-03-10, 05:41 PM
Holy sh*t, that is the first film I've seen HK give a thumbs up :p
Unfortunately it's to a film i'm not very fond of :(. I understand it's appeal but could never really take to Reservoir Dogs. I'm not sure why. Heat is a near masterpiece, though. One of the greatest crime films ever made and Michael Mann's finest few hours. I love the ending the most. It's a scene that could have easily come across as cheesy, but it's a really deep moment. Even at a very young age I remember being immersed into the whole thing, even though it dealt with complex themes and adult relationships. It's one of those films that just grabs you and forces you to pay attention, I think. I would have it even higher.
WBadger
09-03-10, 05:44 PM
Thanks for reminding me, The Prestige.
WBadger
09-03-10, 05:52 PM
46. The Dark Knight (2008, Nolan)
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Total Points Earned: 64
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planet news
09-03-10, 07:29 PM
Sorry to post OUT OF ORDER, but does anyone else agree with me that Pulp Fiction essentially rendered Reservoir Dogs obsolete? I think the two will always be inextricably paired and PF will always be the undeniably greater film.
Sorry to post OUT OF ORDER, but does anyone else agree with me that Pulp Fiction essentially rendered Reservoir Dogs obsolete? I think the two will always be inextricably paired and PF will always be the undeniably greater film.
Technically, I wouldn't say this, and I don't know if the position can be defended that well, but I undeniably feel this way, yes. Absolutely.
rauldc14
09-04-10, 12:31 AM
I'm not fond of Pulp Fiction that much, but I honestly think that I would like Pulp Fiction better than Reservoir Dogs, though I haven't seen that one. I got to say that seeing The Dark Knight on here is a plus. I really do like this film, I just wonder if it may lose some of its luster in the years to come from others.
planet news
09-04-10, 01:00 AM
Reading up on RD, I've decided I need to rewatch it. It's tone and style fits so perfectly with PF, it's clear they exist within the same universe, but it's structure is very different (and different than most other films besides the singular PF, I mean) and impressive in its own right.
What I mean is, the film could have been A CHAPTER in PF and fit fine, and perhaps that's how he really view it in relation to PF.
wintertriangles
09-04-10, 10:51 AM
Reservoir Dogs is more like Kubrick's The Killing in its structure but Pulp Fiction is more like a graphic novel. In that light I don't pair them together but I have no desire to ever watch Reservoir Dogs again since I've seen it 5 times already
Brodinski
09-04-10, 11:54 AM
The Killers is Siodmak's noir masterpiece. The Killing is the Kubrick film you're referring to here.
wintertriangles
09-04-10, 12:10 PM
:( I would be mad at myself but that just hasn't been helpful
I thought there was two Killers, both based on the Hemingway short. I've only seen the Tarkovsky version, and I'm assuming the other is at least as good. Perhaps my next Criterion purchase
planet news
09-04-10, 12:26 PM
Tarantino said it was his version of the The Killing. I'm talking more about the identical mise-en-scene in both films that place them in "the same universe"; namely: the cool-talking gangsters, scenes of torture set to pop music, and exasperated running down the streets.
By this logic, however, you might as well link together the films of any director with a consistent mise-en-scene, so, like Yoda said, the decision to explicitly render one inferior to the other is a bit hard to defend.
The Prestige
09-04-10, 02:15 PM
Sorry to post OUT OF ORDER, but does anyone else agree with me that Pulp Fiction essentially rendered Reservoir Dogs obsolete? I think the two will always be inextricably paired and PF will always be the undeniably greater film.
That's pretty much EXACTLY how I feel. It's near impossible not to compare films. Pulp Fiction is the more complete film and is wonderfully structured. There are very few memorable moments in Dogs besides the ear scene, which isn't THAT memorable for me. Fiction on the other hand has the bible bashing opening segment, the milkshake scene between Mia and Vincent, the drug revive scene, the clock speech, the get all medieval on your ass scene, etc.
Thursday Next
09-04-10, 02:24 PM
Sorry to post OUT OF ORDER, but does anyone else agree with me that Pulp Fiction essentially rendered Reservoir Dogs obsolete? I think the two will always be inextricably paired and PF will always be the undeniably greater film.
I don't agree. I prefer Reservoir Dogs to Pulp Fiction, I think it's a shame that Pulp Fiction often seems to overshadow what is a great film in its own right. I do pair them in my mind, because I think they're both better than anything Tarantino has done since.
TheGirlWhoHadAllTheLuck_
09-04-10, 02:35 PM
I haven't seen quite a few of these films. Feel guilty for not being a film buff :/
The Prestige
09-04-10, 02:43 PM
I don't agree. I prefer Reservoir Dogs to Pulp Fiction, I think it's a shame that Pulp Fiction often seems to overshadow what is a great film in its own right. I do pair them in my mind, because I think they're both better than anything Tarantino has done since.
Would you say that Reservoir Dogs is a better film than Inglourious Basterds then?
Thursday Next
09-04-10, 04:05 PM
Would you say that Reservoir Dogs is a better film than Inglourious Basterds then?
Yes, definitely. There's a lot that's good about Inglourious Basterds, but it's a very flawed film and a bit messy, overall. I think perhaps Tarantino has got a bit over-ambitious, I liked the more stripped-down story of Reservoir Dogs
wintertriangles
09-04-10, 04:13 PM
But at the end of the day Reservoir Dogs is just an above average (post)heist film, I don't get how it's better than a complete rewrite of WWII...preferred, sure
honeykid
09-04-10, 05:14 PM
Inglourious Basterds is better than Reservoir Dogs?!?! WT, don't make it so I have to watch Inglorious Basterds just so I can argue against that with confidence. However, if I'm just going to blunder in. Do you think IB is better than PF? If not, then I can't see IB being better than RD.
Harry Lime
09-04-10, 05:19 PM
WT, don't make it so I have to watch Inglorious Basterds just so I can argue against that with confidence.
One would think that to argue against any film, with or without confidence, a prerequisite should be to have actually seen the film. Reservoir Dogs is better, but still...
planet news
09-04-10, 05:22 PM
I don't see how this can be.
wintertriangles
09-04-10, 05:42 PM
Do you think IB is better than PF? If not, then I can't see IB being better than RD. IB to me is equal to PF
honeykid
09-04-10, 05:46 PM
One would think that to argue against any film, with or without confidence, a prerequisite should be to have actually seen the film. Reservoir Dogs is better, but still...
Not with me, HL. You should know this by now. Also, it depends what the argument is.
The Prestige
09-05-10, 08:22 AM
I'm thinking Inglourious might have the edge on Fiction, and that's a very tough thing to say considering how brilliant and influential the latter is.
DexterRiley
09-05-10, 12:02 PM
Unfortunately it's to a film i'm not very fond of :(. I understand it's appeal but could never really take to Reservoir Dogs. I'm not sure why. Heat is a near masterpiece, though. One of the greatest crime films ever made and Michael Mann's finest few hours. I love the ending the most. It's a scene that could have easily come across as cheesy, but it's a really deep moment. Even at a very young age I remember being immersed into the whole thing, even though it dealt with complex themes and adult relationships. It's one of those films that just grabs you and forces you to pay attention, I think. I would have it even higher.
well the original was soaked in fromage.
just goes to show you, its not just the words on the page, the principal actors have to deliver.
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WBadger
09-05-10, 12:47 PM
45. Seven Samurai (1954, Kurosawa)
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http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1954/posters/the_seven_samurai_ver13.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=The+Seven+Samurai+1954)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1954/posters/the_seven_samurai_ver11.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=The+Seven+Samurai+1954)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1954/posters/the_seven_samurai_ver9.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=The+Seven+Samurai+1954)
Total Points Earned: 65
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Thursday Next
09-05-10, 04:08 PM
But at the end of the day Reservoir Dogs is just an above average (post)heist film, I don't get how it's better than a complete rewrite of WWII...preferred, sure
Well, I don't want to hijack this thread with the semantics of 'better' v. 'preferred', but to me, it's both. As for it's being 'just' a heist film... well, The Godfather is 'just' a gangster film, Casablanca 'just' a wartime romance... I don't think 'just' comes into it. It's not the concept which is the only important thing in whether a film is good or not, more the success of the execution. After all, U571 rewrites WWII and that's not a good film at all. There's no denying Inglourious Basterds has an ambitious concept, in fact it's a little too ambitious, too many threads which don't tie neatly enough together for my liking. But it's not a bad film, I don't want to argue against it too much. I just don't think Reservoir Dogs is given its due sometimes and I'm glad to see it made this list, if only to prove that it isn't 'redundant'.
meatwadsprite
09-05-10, 04:17 PM
Reservoir Dogs deserves a spot on the list just for having Keitel say "I'm hungry. Lets go get a taco".
wintertriangles
09-05-10, 05:18 PM
Well, I don't want to hijack this thread with the semantics of 'better' v. 'preferred', but to me, it's both. As for it's being 'just' a heist film... well, The Godfather is 'just' a gangster film, Casablanca 'just' a wartime romance... I don't think 'just' comes into it. It's not the concept which is the only important thing in whether a film is good or not, more the success of the execution. After all, U571 rewrites WWII and that's not a good film at all. There's no denying Inglourious Basterds has an ambitious concept, in fact it's a little too ambitious, too many threads which don't tie neatly enough together for my liking. But it's not a bad film, I don't want to argue against it too much. I just don't think Reservoir Dogs is given its due sometimes and I'm glad to see it made this list, if only to prove that it isn't 'redundant'.I don't mean to come off as saying I dislike Reservoir Dogs, I find it at least impressive considering his non-experience, but where you say it's not given it's due, my experience tells me it gets more than enough, and in fact I could take it further and say his first two films tend to overshadow everything else he does which is unfortunate considering I believe he's certainly improved as a writer, director, and just in terms of expanding horizons
honeykid
09-05-10, 11:24 PM
Seven Samurai. Now here's another bloody brilliant film. We seem to have hit a seam of greatness. IMO, anyway.
rauldc14
09-06-10, 12:29 AM
Damn, I really haven't seen a lot of these. At least I've good a lot of good movies to watch.
genesis_pig
09-06-10, 12:34 AM
Seven Samurai. Now here's another bloody brilliant film. We seem to have hit a seam of greatness. IMO, anyway.
Last time I saw it was over 15 years.. & I remember loving it, My dad got this movie coz he wanted to show his friend where Magnificient Seven was inspired from...
This was my first Samurai film.. One can surely say that Yojimbo & Seven Samurai haven't aged at all.. almost anybody can enjoy them till to this day..
WBadger
09-06-10, 12:36 AM
@rauldc14: Yes you sure do.
I know you haven't seen too many foreign films, but Seven Samurai is definitely one of the more accesible and is usually enjoyed by all types of movie watchers.
wintertriangles
09-06-10, 12:37 AM
I know you haven't seen too many foreign films, but Seven Samurai is definitely one of the more accesible and is usually enjoyed by all types of movie watchers.Which, while true, is beyond strange considering it's 3.5 hours long
WBadger
09-06-10, 12:01 PM
44. Rear Window (1954, Hitchcock)
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http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1954/posters/7C67315C3B-c260.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Rear+Window+1954)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1954/posters/7C67315C3B-2d33.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Rear+Window+1954)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1954/posters/7C67315C3B-6d1e.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Rear+Window+1954)
Total Points Earned: 65
Compared to Previous List: NEW
Miss Vicky
09-06-10, 12:05 PM
Just watched this one for the first time not long ago and I gotta say I was impressed.
Surprised it didn't make the last one though, as it seems to be held in high regard by quite a few Mofos.
44. Rear Window (1954, Hitchcock)
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http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1954/posters/7C67315C3B-c260.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Rear+Window+1954)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1954/posters/7C67315C3B-2d33.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Rear+Window+1954)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1954/posters/7C67315C3B-6d1e.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Rear+Window+1954)
Total Points Earned: 65
Compared to Previous List: NEW
Great Hitchcock film. Also great performances by Jimmy Stewart and the Beautiful Grace Kelly.
rauldc14
09-06-10, 11:14 PM
Honestly, I think that this film out of all of the films that have been on this list so far, should have been lower. An absolute classic in film.
Honestly, I think that this film out of all of the films that have been on this list so far, should have been lower. An absolute classic in film.
I agree it is a classic, but I will have to see what makes the list below it before I render my decision on whether or not it should be lower. Great film though.
WBadger
09-06-10, 11:30 PM
That's what I was thinking while I was calculating the list! That and whenever it would appear on somebody's list I performed a huge fist pump at my computer desk.
In conclusion, making this list was fun.
DexterRiley
09-07-10, 11:38 AM
I predict Charade will make the list, while the truth about Charlie does not.
The Prestige
09-07-10, 11:52 AM
Terrific film, gets better ever time I see it. Almost as good as Psycho imo.
WBadger
09-07-10, 04:50 PM
43. Lost in Translation (2003, S. Coppola)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bVjkAjr08sc/TDh56VCvPKI/AAAAAAAABVA/o3PPjqX6exE/s1600/lost_in_translation.jpg
http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/2003/posters/lost_in_translation_ver5.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Lost+in+Translation+2003)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/2003/posters/lost_in_translation_verdvd.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Lost+in+Translation+2003)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/2003/posters/lost_in_translation_ver2.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Lost+in+Translation+2003)
Total Points Earned: 67
Compared to Previous List: http://unassistedsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Up-Arrow.jpg 57 spots
The Prestige
09-07-10, 06:13 PM
I'm unimpressed by this entry.
honeykid
09-07-10, 06:58 PM
You and me both, Pres, and I haven't even seen it. :D
The Prestige
09-07-10, 07:06 PM
Well you are definitely not missing out on much, mate. Besides a nice butt shot of Scarlett Johansson, i'm a bit confused as to why everyone likes it so much. Maybe it's to do with Bill Murray toning down the comedy or something?
I don't love it, but I think lots of people do because it effectively conveys loneliness, and what it can be like to be in a strange place where you don't know anyone, and the relationship between Johansson and Murray is actually pretty believable. It's also very well shot and well-acted, and I think the ending is pretty much perfect. That, and Murray does have some really great, subtly comedic scenes. They're delightfully self-aware.
So, yeah, not one of my favorites or anything, but it doesn't surprise me that so many people love it. Even if it's kind of a downer of a movie.
genesis_pig
09-07-10, 07:12 PM
Well you are definitely not missing out on much, mate. Besides a nice butt shot of Scarlett Johansson, i'm a bit confused as to why everyone likes it so much. Maybe it's to do with Bill Murray toning down the comedy or something?
I have mentioned the same thing dozens of times.. beautifully directed.. but Sofia what's the story???...
& she also included something rosebuddish in the end to make her movie mysterious...
Blue Lou
09-07-10, 07:13 PM
Murray made this film. Without him, this movie would have been a small blip on the indie radar.
Lost in Translation is not my favorite of Sofia Coppola's films. I really liked The Virgin Suicides much better.
meatwadsprite
09-07-10, 07:19 PM
I wish they LOST the film reel and had to make a different movie.
(that's how it works right ?)
genesis_pig
09-07-10, 07:20 PM
I wish they LOST the film reel and had to make a different movie.
(that's how it works right ?)
You mean get it Sweded?
honeykid
09-07-10, 07:21 PM
I liked TVS too. I've not seen that since release, I think. I'll have to see if I can find my copy.
christine
09-07-10, 07:34 PM
I think you men are not old enough to understand Lost in Translation . When you reach Bill Murray's age go and watch it again, you might feel some more love for the character. :D
honeykid
09-07-10, 07:39 PM
OK, I'll wait until I'm his age before I see it. :)
I think you men are not old enough to understand Lost in Translation . When you reach Bill Murray's age go and watch it again, you might feel some more love for the character. :D Since I am a female does that mean I have to wait till I am Scarlett Johanssen's age? :D She is only 3 years older than me.
genesis_pig
09-07-10, 07:42 PM
So Christine, I am guessing you like the film..
Can you tell me what was the main idea of the film & what does she whisper in his ear??
honeykid
09-07-10, 07:44 PM
She whispers "People are going to think this is something deep and meaningful, but actually it's just this." :D
The Prestige
09-07-10, 07:58 PM
I don't love it, but I think lots of people do because it effectively conveys loneliness
This, I suppose, I would agree with. The loneliness theme is well handled, and it's generally well directed, but there is very little to the characters other than loneliness. It just wasn't enough for me, I needed more to care about them. Something like the relationship between the two main characters in Half Nelson where each had a specific problem that sort of forced them together. I think both films have realistic relationships, but Lost In Translation 's just wasn't interesting enough and that was the thing that was gonna either make or break this film for me.
have mentioned the same thing dozens of times.. beautifully directed.. but Sofia what's the story???...
& she also included something rosebuddish in the end to make her movie mysterious...
Ending was probably the best part. It was pretty nice, but then I just felt like 'so what' afterwards, which I think is a reflection on the film as a whole.
The Prestige
09-07-10, 08:01 PM
I will wait until i'm in a coma to rewatch it. :p
genesis_pig
09-07-10, 08:06 PM
I am going to watch Ghostbusters when I am old.. that courtroom scene will still be funny.
WBadger
09-09-10, 05:15 PM
42. The Last of the Mohicans (1992, Mann)
http://kotisivukone.fi/files/sholmes.ota.fi/kuvat/kuvia_2/kuvia_3/kuvia_4/kuvia_5/kuvia_6/kuvia_7/kuvia_8/last-of-the-mohicans_l.jpg
http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1992/posters/last_of_the_mohicans_ver2.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=The+Last+of+the+Mohicans+1992)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1992/posters/last_of_the_mohicans_ver1.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=The+Last+of+the+Mohicans+1992)
Total Points Earned: 67
Compared to Previous List: http://unassistedsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Up-Arrow.jpg 8 spots
christine
09-09-10, 05:27 PM
So Christine, I am guessing you like the film..
Can you tell me what was the main idea of the film & what does she whisper in his ear??
I liked it ok, but I wouldn't rave about it. I just thought it illustrated nicely that time in someone's middle age when you kinda lose your way a little bit alongside youth that has hardly even set out - worried about different things, different responsibilities. One with regrets and one that's had no time to have regrets yet. I like that nothing happened, that it didn't go anywhere. I'm fond of films where nothing really happens.
Thursday Next
09-09-10, 05:35 PM
Criticizing Lost in Translation for not having a 'story' is to miss the point completely. What's the 'story' in 2001, or Stalker? Not everything has to be fast-paced and plot-driven, or have a conclusive ending. I've watched this film many times and each time I expect to be not as impressed as I was previously but every time it captivates me. It's beautifully filmed, for one thing. And not just in the way of having pretty scenery, but that every shot is set up and executed perfectly, the lights, the colours, everything is spot-on. The performances are brilliant. As Yoda has pointed out, it effectively conveys loneliness, and the feeling of being somewhere out-of-place, of longing for something different but not being sure what it is or where to find it. But along with the loneliness and the boredom there's the joy in the small, silly things that just spills out of this film that makes it a joy to watch. There's comedy and seriousness and missed opportunities, much more realistic and interesting to watch than a straightforward 'rom com'. I thought the ending was good, it's sad but at the same time uplifting; there are few films that manage to pull this off effectively but this is one of them. And finally there's the soundtrack - Bryan Ferry, Peaches, Air - everything really well chosen to add to the atmosphere.
Thursday Next
09-09-10, 05:39 PM
Can you tell me what was the main idea of the film & what does she whisper in his ear??
As I suspect you know already, she doesn't whisper anything in his ear, he whispers in hers. And I don't see what's so wrong with not knowing. I like films where not everything is resolved. I think that they have this small private moment that we don't get to hear is much more touching than any big speech could have been.
WBadger
09-09-10, 05:49 PM
41. Sense and Sensibility (1995, Lee)
http://www.bingoenglish.com/content/uploads/userup/0903/201H60H303.jpg
http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1995/posters/sense_and_sensibility_ver2.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Sense+and+Sensibility+1995)
Total Points Earned: 67
Compared to Previous List: http://unassistedsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Down-Arrow.jpg 4 spots
genesis_pig
09-09-10, 06:03 PM
I agree with everything that you have said.. But if you read my earlier posts I haven't criticized it for not having a story at all.. I just said "What's the story Sofia??"..
I have already said before the movie is beautifully shot... (by that I meant the soundtrack and cinematography as well)....
& I think 2001 & Stalker had more substance, the plot was gripping & got you hooked till the end.. even the ape scenes in 2001 had you hooked, so you can't bring those 2 movies in discussion here..
The Zone scenes & the ending of Stalker left you mystified.
But I guess to each his own... I would anyday prefer Roman Coppola's CQ over this...
Also, I would like to mention Punch Drunk Love here, cause similarly you have a well-known comedian actor in a dramatic film.
I would prefer Punch Drunk Love over this... the best thing about PDL is that it is unpredictable.. the lead character is unpredictable. You have an unlikely romance thrown in, extraordinary hurdles..
& Also, You were right, it was he who whispers & not her.. maybe I need to give this another try along with No Country For Old Men..
Thursday Next
09-09-10, 06:10 PM
I agree with everything that you have said.. But if you read my earlier posts I haven't criticized it for not having a story at all.. I just said "What's the story Sofia??"..
Well, that seems like an implied criticism to me, although when I wrote that I wasn't just thinking of your comments, but others as well.
even the ape scenes in 2001 had you hooked, so you can't bring those 2 movies in discussion here..
I found the ape scenes quite tedious, while Lost in Translation had me hooked all the way through, so I think that it comes down to preference, although I acknowledge that there is a distinct difference in genre that means those might not be the best comparisons.
I would prefer Punch Drunk Love over this... the best thing about PDL is that it is unpredictable.. the lead character is unpredictable. You have an unlikely romance thrown in, extraordinary hurdles..
I've not yet seen Punch Drunk Love, although I mean to. But I think LIT has unpredictability and unlikely romance on its side as well.
genesis_pig
09-09-10, 06:18 PM
Ohh, I just realized you have LIT at #3 spot on your favourite list... so ni further discussion needed..
Anyway I do like LIT, I'd give it a 7.2/10 (mainly coz it was directed well) & honestly, the movie can be watched again & again.. coz it doesn't drag & Bill Murray is always awesome in every possible role..
But I did find the movie predictable.. & the romance was unlikely for certain, but still very much expected...
BTW do watch PDL, you'll definitely love it... even if you hate Sandler, watch it...
It's his best film..
honeykid
09-09-10, 06:42 PM
Congratulations to everyone who voted for Sense & Sensibility. A very good choice.
BTW, I can't believe even those who love 2001 found it gripping. :eek:
Thursday Next
09-09-10, 06:49 PM
Who did vote for Sense and Sensibility (besides me)? It's a very, very good film and one that often seems to be overlooked, so I'm really glad to see it still so high on this list :)
I don't like to get into these "back-and-forth"-type "discussions" where people think that other people don't understand something about a movie or can't voice an opinion on it without a contradiction. Anybody can say that a film is boring and plotless, and a different somebody can say, "Well, that's the point! It's about boredom and not being conclusive." A person has every right to expect a film not to be boring and plotless, but that will never stop another person who likes whatever movie is being discussed from trying to defend it for personal reasons. I suppose my point is that they're all just opinions. There is no "right" or "wrong" in an opinion. Some opinions might seem to have more validity, but opinions are not facts. No matter how many facts you provide to defend your opinion, you cannot "prove" that your opinion is any better than the opposite one. That's pretty much why I've stayed out of this thread. I have opinions on every film in here but so what?
OK. Shutting down now and everyone can return to the real world again. :cool:
genesis_pig
09-09-10, 07:42 PM
true, that's exactly why I said this:
Ohh, I just realized you have LIT at #3 spot on your favourite list... so no further discussion needed..
rauldc14
09-10-10, 01:19 AM
I now see why we aren't making this into a list at the time being. It's a good list, but sometimes it seems like personal preferences are more foreshadowed than the groups preferences as a whole. Obviously not everyone likes every movie, but some of these are just from the likings of 3-4 which we have also mentioned before. I think we shall see Inception on this list next year.
planet news
09-10-10, 02:41 AM
There is no "right" or "wrong" in an opinion. Some opinions might seem to have more validity, but opinions are not facts. No matter how many facts you provide to defend your opinion, you cannot "prove" that your opinion is any better than the opposite one. That's pretty much why I've stayed out of this thread. I have opinions on every film in here but so what?So what? So your opinion, that's what. Why wouldn'tyou post your opinion? To avoid debate? Aren't your personal reasons reasons? Just because you don't voice them doesn't make them less reasons. If they are reasons, they can be argued against. Any reason or reasoning can be argued for or against. Flaws can be pointed out in the reasoning such as the self-inconsistency of the reasoning itself. I'm not sure why you consider the art debate to be inconsequential or meaningless as it's the only thing that really renders art meaningful. Otherwise, it's just a completely subjective experience that cannot be shared whatsoever.
Brodinski
09-10-10, 04:27 AM
Otherwise, it's just a completely subjective experience that cannot be shared whatsoever.
Well, watching a film is a subjective experience. You can voice your opinion on a film, but you shouldn't expect everyone to agree with every little thing you wrote. Some film might be a life-altering experience for a person or have a profound and lasting emotional impact on someone, whereas someone else is utterly disinterested by the same film. It doesn't mean that one of those persons is wrong. Surely, the one person can try to convince the other of the film's artistic beauty or its gripping plot, but the other one doesn't necessarily have to agree. There is no right or wrong here. If you can substantiate your opinion, then you're entitled to think that way, at least this is the case when it comes to film.
As they say in the great sport of boxing: "no one ever watches the same fight", the same goes for movies: "no one ever watches the same movie". That's what makes the film medium so beautiful.
Thursday Next
09-10-10, 08:43 AM
I suppose my point is that they're all just opinions. There is no "right" or "wrong" in an opinion. Some opinions might seem to have more validity, but opinions are not facts. No matter how many facts you provide to defend your opinion, you cannot "prove" that your opinion is any better than the opposite one. That's pretty much why I've stayed out of this thread. I have opinions on every film in here but so what?
But who here has been saying that their opinion is a fact or trying to prove that it is better (with the exception of all those 'this doesn't deserve to be there' posts)? This seems to have come out of nowhere, most of the discussions in this thread have been perfectly amicable. Like you say, people have the right to express their opinions and others have the right to disagree, or even to try to persuade people to their point of view. A few times people's defence of films has encouraged me to think again about a film or to watch it again. Sometimes discussions by others on films I haven't seen have persuaded me to watch a film, or not. I don't understand this 'so what?'. So what is the point of this thread, if not to comment on the films in the list? So what is the point of this site if we shouldn't discuss our opinions?
christine
09-10-10, 09:25 AM
Mark, don't be such a grump! If we didn't discuss our opinions on the films on this thread at all, we'd be ignoring all the hard work WBadger put in compiling it. How rude would that be!
Caitlyn
09-10-10, 10:11 AM
Who did vote for Sense and Sensibility (besides me)? It's a very, very good film and one that often seems to be overlooked, so I'm really glad to see it still so high on this list :)
It was on my list... :yup:
And Badger... you're doing a fantastic job with this... thanks... :)
Tacitus
09-10-10, 10:27 AM
I think Mark was, rightly in my view, just commenting on the general tone of some of the posts.
planet news
09-10-10, 06:13 PM
but you shouldn't expect everyone to agree with every little thing you wroteWho honestly expects this or has ever claimed this?
There is no right or wrong here.Implying that achieving a binary result of a right or a wrong is the goal of the art debate.
"no one ever watches the same movie". That's what makes the film medium so beautiful.I see nothing loldeep about either of these, since it's clear to us post-Kantians that perception itself is subjective. Why not just "no one ever watches the same"? Is it such a shock to anyone that people experience art differently? Is this something to be marveled at?
I think being stuck at this level achieves nothing. What is more interesting is how large groups of people CAN agree on the worth or worthlessness of certain films. The question that the art debate brings up is how or why. Just because esthetic quality is not some innate property of reality there's no reason why a collective, emergent esthetic cannot exist---in whatever sort of wavering, ephemeral state it would---and, simultaneously, be affecting our very perception of reality itself.
A few times people's defence of films has encouraged me to think again about a film or to watch it again. Sometimes discussions by others on films I haven't seen have persuaded me to watch a film, or not. I don't understand this 'so what?'. So what is the point of this thread, if not to comment on the films in the list? So what is the point of this site if we shouldn't discuss our opinions?THIS x 10.
I think Mark was, rightly in my view, just commenting on the general tone of some of the posts.I disagree. It's obvious that the infamously volatile MoFo dissident mark f was trying to start some major sh*t with his post. It's also clear that his present diversionary tactics are only signal of his long-planned preemptive strike against the forums as a whole.
I disagree. It's obvious that the infamously volatile MoFo dissident mark f was trying to start some major sh*t with his post. It's also clear that his present diversionary tactics are only signal of his long-planned preemptive strike against the forums as a whole.
That is just wrong :furiousdevil: Mark is one the most loved people here :yup: you have been here a very short time :rolleyes: you don't know him so lay off http://bestsmileys.com/hitting/2.gif
planet news
09-10-10, 06:50 PM
Obvious hyperbolic verbal irony is obviously hyperbolic and verbally ironic.
christine
09-10-10, 06:51 PM
, since it's clear to us post-Kantians that perception itself is subjective.
what does that even mean to most ordinary poster? post Kantian? jeez....
I disagree. It's obvious that the infamously volatile MoFo dissident mark f was trying to start some major sh*t with his post. It's also clear that his present diversionary tactics are only signal of his long-planned preemptive strike against the forums as a whole.
blimey, I might've called him grumpy, but that's hardly in the same league as being a volatine dissident. As for his "long-planned preemptive strike against the forums as a whole" I think you're living in some post WW2 cold war situation there mr Planet News. You are a youngster living in a comfortable American life there aren't you? Not some cellar dwelling East Berliner?
He was being facetious with that last part about Mark.
This is now when I need to post a link to my "MoFo Sucks!" thread so that post-Kantians can decipher all the clues I buried in there about my terrorist activities.
christine
09-10-10, 06:56 PM
I give up. These references are beyond me
By post-Kantian, he's referring to the philosopher Kant. He's just saying that, because of Kant, it's well-established that all perception is subjective.
The rest isn't a reference, it's just a goof. He's describing Mark in ridiculous terms that aren't intended to be taken as seriously. To someone who's never been here it probably doesn't read that way, but to anyone who knows Mark at all it's obviously a joke.
wintertriangles
09-10-10, 07:00 PM
People don't know Kant? I gave him the cold shoulder in ethics class
planet news
09-10-10, 07:05 PM
It ignores the importance of the other. That's why Sade is Kantian ethics revealed. Even immorality becomes a duty.
He was being facetious with that last part about Mark.
That makes me feel better :nope:
honeykid
09-10-10, 07:52 PM
I give up. These references are beyond me
Christine, here's a quick guide to Philosophy for you.
Anyone who's ever read Philosophy and taken it seriously is, by definition, a wanker. :D
planet news
09-10-10, 08:03 PM
Philosophy is basically the only thing I can take seriously.
honeykid
09-10-10, 08:14 PM
And my point is proved. ;):D
Caitlyn
09-10-10, 09:00 PM
:laugh:
Sorry
:nope:
Christine, here's a quick guide to Philosophy for you.
Anyone who's ever read Philosophy and taken it seriously is, by definition, a wanker. :D
I'd say it's more that anyone who says this about philosophy has an inaccurate view of what it is. Really now, I need to defend the idea of structured thought? Cuz that's all it is.
Anyway, where we? Oh yeah: a list of movies and why everyone thinks it's totally awesome or totally wrong.
I prefer more movies and less opinions, but every time I say that, I get more opinions. What a bloody button-pusher Yoda...er, I mean... I am. :cool:
Powdered Water
09-11-10, 01:14 AM
I love that Last of the Mohicans not only made this list again but this time moved up several spots.
Damn fine movie that. :yup:
Caitlyn
09-11-10, 11:11 AM
I love that Last of the Mohicans not only made this list again but this time moved up several spots.
Damn fine movie that. :yup:
Well, you probably know what I think... :D To me, it's a very overlooked film... and one, that if you look past the obvious can make you wonder "just who really was the bad guy"...
WBadger
09-12-10, 10:10 PM
40. Die Hard (1988, McTiernan)
http://cinemasights.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/diehard-smoking.jpg
http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1988/posters/2B46E4A663-04ed.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Die+Hard+1988)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1988/posters/2B46E4A663-b443.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Die+Hard+1988)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1988/posters/2B46E4A663-08b5.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Die+Hard+1988)
Total Points Earned: 67
Compared to Previous List: http://unassistedsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Up-Arrow.jpg 4 spots
Powdered Water
09-12-10, 10:12 PM
"Welcome to the party pal!"
I think if the names are also updates in the first page, it would be gr8!
planet news
09-12-10, 10:58 PM
Die Hard > Seven Samurai, Rear Window, Lost in Translation
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WTF AM I READING?
I can tell you what you're not reading: you're not reading anything that's intending to be some kind of comprehensive guide to classic cinema. It's a list of combined favorites. I think that's pretty well established by now.
planet news
09-12-10, 11:02 PM
I can tell you what you're not reading: you're not reading anything that's intending to be some kind of comprehensive guide to classic cinema. It's a list of combined favorites. I think that's pretty well established by now.So was slavery in the early 19th century.
meatwadsprite
09-12-10, 11:07 PM
Lost in Translation is not 40 stories of sheer adventure.
planet news
09-12-10, 11:11 PM
I know what you mean. It is what it is, and it's good at it.
genesis_pig
09-13-10, 12:01 AM
Die Hard at 40??..... It should have been a lot higher!!
Anyone who's ever read Philosophy and taken it seriously is, by definition, a wanker. :D
I would have you know that I have a degree in Philosophy - but I never took it seriously ;).
honeykid
09-13-10, 12:36 AM
Which just goes to show that you can read it, study it even, but not take it seriously. :yup:
Yeah, I think we get it: you hate philosophy (or whatever caricature you have in its place). Check. No danger of people thinking you don't at this point. If you want to start a thread called "Philosophy: Why Thinking In An Organized Fashion Is Stupid," be my guest. Otherwise, let's just wait and see what the next movie is.
WBadger
09-13-10, 06:36 PM
39. 12 Angry Men (1957, Lumet)
http://jakemcmillan.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/annex-fonda-henry-12-angry-men_06.jpg
http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1957/posters/twelve_angry_men.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=12+Angry+Men+1957)
Total Points Earned: 68
Compared to Previous List: http://unassistedsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Down-Arrow.jpg 9 spots
Torn. On one hand, it's on here, and it's pretty high. That equals awesome. On the other hand, I was cautiously optimistic that this might even crack the top 20! Not quite, apparently. Still, love to see it getting this recognition.
WBadger
09-14-10, 08:55 PM
38. Once Upon a Time in the West (1968, Leone)
http://pinoytutorial.com/lifebytes/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/once-upon-a-time-in-the-west.jpg
http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1968/posters/once_upon_a_time_in_the_west_ver11.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Once+Upon+a+Time+in+the+West+1968)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1968/posters/once_upon_a_time_in_the_west_ver2.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Once+Upon+a+Time+in+the+West+1968)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1968/posters/once_upon_a_time_in_the_west_ver8.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Once+Upon+a+Time+in+the+West+1968)
Total Points Earned: 68
Compared to Previous List: http://unassistedsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Up-Arrow.jpg 1 spot
I have had something of a love/hate relationship with this film since I first saw it. I can remember the very first time I saw it, I thought the opening credits with all the water dripping and extended BS was an attack on the audience, but now I can see it as an entertainer (and I believe that Leone believed himself to be more of an entertainer than an artist) trying to tell his audience that they are going to see the most personal "spaghetti" western ever made. Back in the day, the attenuated presentation pissed the crap out of me, but nowadays, I can see the thing as the first (and probably, the only) western opera. I still have problems with it, but it's easy for me to watch it repeatedly. In fact, the movie this mostly reminds me of is Apocalypse Now. Coppola probably owes Leone some more acknowledgment, but Leone may have needed to pay back the compliment.
rauldc14
09-14-10, 11:43 PM
Don't get me wrong, I love 12 Angry Men. But it makes me a little angry that it beat out Rear Window. As for Once Upon A Time in The West, that movie has been on my queue for quite some time.
Just make sure that you are in a very restful, relaxing mood when you watch Once Upon a Time in the West. If you allow the film to envelop you with the enormous vistas and the awesome musical score, your tongue will probably be hanging out. If you expect something more literal and "normal", maybe you should try to get your head [un]"straight" first. :cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNGQ1hUyx-k&feature=fvst
Just make sure that you are in a very restful, relaxing mood when you watch Once Upon a Time in the West. If you allow the film to envelop you with the enormous vistas and the awesome musical score, your tongue will probably be hanging out.
One can close their eyes and still love most of this film - most of it, not all - then they need to open their eyes and shut off some other senses. One of my favs. :yup:
linespalsy
09-15-10, 11:31 AM
"How can you trust a man who wears both a belt and suspenders? The man can't even trust his own pants."
The Prestige
09-16-10, 09:24 AM
Die Hard is awesome, so good entry. Though I would have had it lower. Haven't seen 12 Angry Men, but it has a good rep so I shall check out.
WBadger
09-16-10, 04:30 PM
37. Saving Private Ryan (1998, Spielberg)
http://www.seanax.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/saving-private-ryan.jpg
http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1998/posters/saving_private_ryan_ver2.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Saving+Private+Ryan+1998)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1998/posters/789A99D661-c639.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Saving+Private+Ryan+1998)
Total Points Earned: 69
Compared to Previous List: NEW
WBadger
09-16-10, 04:39 PM
36. Ghostbusters (1984, Reitman)
http://blog.fenrix.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/ghostbusters.jpg
http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1984/posters/ghostbusters_ver3.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Ghostbusters+1984)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1984/posters/ghostbusters_ver2.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Ghostbusters+1984)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1984/posters/757A806672-4a25.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Ghostbusters+1984)
Total Points Earned: 70
Compared to Previous List: NEW
WBadger
09-16-10, 04:44 PM
35. Memento (2000, Nolan)
http://www.filmenator.com/images/memento12.jpg
http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/2001/posters/memento_ver2.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Memento+2001)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/2001/posters/memento.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Memento+2001)
Total Points Earned: 71
Compared to Previous List: NEW
The Prestige
09-16-10, 05:36 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haha, that's what i'm talking about. Can't believe it didn't make the other list! It's also very high, at least high to the point where I can say, yeah, I can more than live with that. This is a film and a half. The film that did it for me and changed the way I saw film in general. I was 17 when we were taken to watch this film. It had been out for a year a bit, but there was s special screening at the Odeon in Covent Garden. Almost didn't go, but fate had different plans for me. I know I sound Kathy Batish, but if there was any such thing as a 'number 1 fan' of this film, that would be me. Inception came close, pretty close. But this is still the Christopher Nolan's signature film. It's THE Christopher Nolan to watch. Wonderful entry. The others are good.
wintertriangles
09-16-10, 05:56 PM
I'd prefer Following, Memento is only watchable once
Brodinski
09-16-10, 06:18 PM
Now there's a shocker. Who would've thought Ghostbusters would be ranked so high. I expected the other 2, but surely not Ghostbusters. The thought of it cracking the top 100 never even crossed my mind.
genesis_pig
09-16-10, 06:21 PM
Ghostbusters is here coz of me... It's every bit a good movie than the rest..
The Prestige
09-16-10, 06:43 PM
I'd prefer Following, Memento is only watchable once
Love Following for all it's cheapness, but how can you say that Memento is only watchable once?? The more you watch it the more rewarding it gets. The film operates on so many levels. It's not a case of, oh you know the twist so there is nothin else to think about. I'm always reanalysing certain scenes, even after my 15th viewing of the film.
Yeah, I've found Memento to be good for a viewing every year or so. And while I like Following, it's tremendously unpolished, a shade confusing, and has maybe half the ideas and intellectual coherence of his works since then. But to each their own.
A more interesting debate, to me, is whether Nolan's best film is Memento or The Dark Knight. Can't say I'm sure. And I chose the word "best" carefully, because if I'd gone with "most impressive," I might have said Inception for its sheer audacity, even though I've come around to the idea that it's not quite as good as those other two.
honeykid
09-16-10, 07:21 PM
Ghostbusters is here coz of me... It's every bit a good movie than the rest..
With 70 points, it's not just you, GP. Love seeing it here, though.
genesis_pig
09-16-10, 07:39 PM
I am willing to defend it from my side...
It deserves its place... Might not be in most Top 100's coz some people dont consider such films because probably most film schools hasn't given it that much importance..
The moment somoone like Tarantino would say that Albert Pyun is a great director.. there you go, everyone has respect for the guy.. :D
Wait a sec. That was a defense of Ghostbusters and Jason's dad, director Ivan Reitman?
Although I wouldn't put it in my Top 100 (as with most of these), Ghostbusters is great entertainment. I have to be in a really lousy mood not to think of it as a 4 movie. :cool:
Here's a good example of its highbrow humor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDQk4lGSEJQ
genesis_pig
09-16-10, 07:51 PM
That's exactly my point... Obviously it doesn't try to be a Scorcese or a Kubrick film...
But for what it is... it's pure entertainment.. Same goes for Back to the Future..
That's true, but I did put that movie in my top 25. Go figure...
genesis_pig
09-16-10, 07:58 PM
Me too...
I went for a list of favourite movies that I could over & over again..
Honestly I think I can watch Ghostbusters 2 times a day, can't say the same about Memento..
I could watch Memento once a month maybe.
So, it deserves its spot.
rauldc14
09-16-10, 11:18 PM
Sorry, but Nolan's best for me right now would have to be The Prestige. But I honestly loved The Dark Knight and Inception especially.
wintertriangles
09-16-10, 11:35 PM
Love Following for all it's cheapness, but how can you say that Memento is only watchable once?? The more you watch it the more rewarding it gets. The film operates on so many levels. It's not a case of, oh you know the twist so there is nothin else to think about. I'm always reanalysing certain scenes, even after my 15th viewing of the film.The second time I watched it I was bored out of my mind because I saw no new information. Perhaps I payed so much attention the first time because of its notoriety and got all I needed then
Sorry, but Nolan's best for me right now would have to be The Prestige. But I honestly loved The Dark Knight and Inception especially. I can't wait to watch that, I've heard too much about it
wintertriangles is actually rufnek?
WBadger
09-16-10, 11:51 PM
A stunning revelation.
Nolan rankings for fun:
Inception
The Dark Knight
Memento
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Batman Begins
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The Prestige
Iroquois
09-17-10, 12:02 AM
I think I'm the only person who doesn't think Ghostbusters is all that.
I'm sure you've corrupted others...
Iroquois
09-17-10, 12:10 AM
I get the feeling Planet News would willingly rip into it.
Powdered Water
09-17-10, 12:12 AM
Anyone who doesn't like Ghostbusters is probably from like, some whole other country.
wintertriangles
09-17-10, 12:14 AM
wintertriangles is actually rufnek?
Who's rufnek not a ploy a serious question
Iroquois
09-17-10, 12:16 AM
He's an old guy who debates about movies and stuff.
planet news
09-17-10, 12:19 AM
More like rufnek's rebellious metalhead son.
Ghostbusters is basically THE masterpiece of North American cinema.
Powdered Water
09-17-10, 12:24 AM
Nah, that's Caddyshack. It is quite good though.
I thought THAT was Happy Gilmore, at least the way people bitch about Adam Sandler.
DexterRiley
09-17-10, 01:01 AM
happy Gilmore couldnt hold Caddyshack's jockstrap.
rauldc14
09-17-10, 01:02 AM
WBadger, is it that you don't like The Prestige or is it that you are a big fan of Nolan and just like everything of his?
The Prestige
09-17-10, 05:23 AM
A more interesting debate, to me, is whether Nolan's best film is Memento or The Dark Knight. Can't say I'm sure. And I chose the word "best" carefully, because if I'd gone with "most impressive," I might have said Inception for its sheer audacity, even though I've come around to the idea that it's not quite as good as those other two.
Yeah, i'm sorta with you on that. Well, certain days I am, certain days I wouldn't because sometimes Inception boderline **** 1/2, and part of that is because it's the closets he's gotten to remaking 'Memento 2' :D just, like you said, due to the audacity and cheer ambition and what not..but it doesn't have Memento's heart nor The Dark Knight's sheer of hopelessness for it's characters. I've seen the film 3 times now, and I still sort of put it on par with The Dark Knight due to it's wonderful ideas and originality. I think some of the Inception's weaknesses are The Dark Knight's strength's and vice versa, so that's why they are at the same level, at least at this point in time.
Memento vs The Dark Knight is quite an interesting debate. On the one hand, you've got a fascinating, original and BRILLIANTLY executed neo noir that stretches the bounderies of narrative freedom and has an ending that's truly unforgettable and changes everything you thought you know about the film and it's protagonist. In the blue corner, you've got an epic, weirdly elegant yet dark 'superhero' picture with a strong ensemble cast and the most iconic performance in the last ten years. It uses the best format possible to reinforce the sense of scale and wonder that's ideal for this type of film what with the brilliant handled action scenes, as well as fun black humour that was missing from it's predecessor.
It's almost apples and oranges really. I obviously think that Memento's the daddy, due to what I said before and to the most interesting character I have probably ever seen realised on film in Leonard Shelby. It's also a film that questioned me about my own life and existance the way The Dark Knight couldn't. It's extremely hard to imagine anyone being indifferent towards Memento.
The Prestige
09-17-10, 05:32 AM
The second time I watched it I was bored out of my mind because I saw no new information. Perhaps I payed so much attention the first time because of its notoriety and got all I needed then
I can't wait to watch that, I've heard too much about it
Fair enough. But try not to think of watching it for 'new information' but rather enjoy how certain scenes take on a new, different dynamic once you think that you know everything. Or better yet, just enjoy the beautifully written screenplay. So many great moments of dialogue. Guy Pearce's performance is worth watching more than ocne, too. Can't stand enough how brilliant he is in the film, specially given the arkwardness of the role.
Can you tell me what was the main idea of the film & what does she whisper in his ear??
He whispers, "I have to be leaving, but I won't let that come between us, OK?"
...speculation
WBadger
09-18-10, 09:07 PM
34. Amélie (2001, Jeunet)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_sEJbeq8xMIc/SuE1thKZxmI/AAAAAAAAAYA/q_NOBMX5wYA/s640/amelie_enfant.jpg
http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/2001/posters/amelie_ver2.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Am%c3%a9lie+2001)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/2001/posters/amelie_ver3.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Am%c3%a9lie+2001)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/2001/posters/amelie_ver4.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Am%c3%a9lie+2001)
Total Points Earned: 74
Compared to Previous List: http://unassistedsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Down-Arrow.jpg 26 spots
:yup: one of my favoutites :)
TheUsualSuspect
09-19-10, 12:14 AM
Love this movie. It's sooooooooo good.
Really getting into some high-quality stuff. The list has definitely progressed nicely, which is, of course, to be expected.
WBadger
09-20-10, 04:32 PM
33. Forrest Gump (1994, Zemeckis)
http://image.toutlecine.com/photos/f/o/r/forrest-gump-1994-02-g.jpg
http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1994/posters/E55A2E80F7-f9f9.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Forrest+Gump+1994)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1994/posters/E55A2E80F7-67af.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Forrest+Gump+1994)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1994/posters/forrest_gump.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=Forrest+Gump+1994)
Total Points Earned: 74
Compared to Previous List: http://unassistedsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Up-Arrow.jpg 26 spots
honeykid
09-20-10, 10:22 PM
I was rather underwhelmed last time I saw this. Disappointed too, as I used to like this a lot more. Maybe I was having a bad day.
wintertriangles
09-20-10, 10:24 PM
Maybe you just saw the light
Iroquois
09-20-10, 10:26 PM
Honeykid not liking a popular film?
I'm shocked to my core.
rauldc14
09-20-10, 10:28 PM
Great to see Forrest Gump at 33. About where it is on my list.
planet news
09-20-10, 10:28 PM
This is the greatest film of all time. Period.
Harry Lime
09-21-10, 12:31 AM
Amelie and Forrest Gump side by side, kinda makes sense in an overly sentimental way.
The Prestige
09-21-10, 08:05 AM
Sorry but i'm with HK here, can't say I like this film much. Just doesn't speak to me the way it does to others. I get little to nothing out of it.
Caitlyn
09-21-10, 09:49 AM
I'm kinda surprised Amélie lost so much ground this time...
Xanatos
09-21-10, 10:16 PM
Forrest Gump is one of my favorite movies, glad to see it on here
WBadger
09-21-10, 10:25 PM
32. American History X (1998, Kaye)
http://passionforcinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/american-history-x.jpg
http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1998/posters/american_history_x.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=American+History+X+1998)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1998/posters/american_history_x_ver3.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=American+History+X+1998)http://www.flickchart.com/Assets/Posters/1998/posters/american_history_x_ver2.jpg (http://www.moviegoods.com/affiliate2/adClick.asp?affiliateID=2096&adID=79&opt1=TI&str1=American+History+X+1998)
Total Points Earned: 75
Compared to Previous List: http://unassistedsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Up-Arrow.jpg 2 spots
Way too high. I don't buy into the backlash against its worship that says it's not a good film at all (it is), but yeah, I'd be a lot more comfortable with it in the 80s or 90s, though I don't think it would make my personal to 100 at all.
Not mad it's here, and I'm actually relieved it isn't higher, but yeah, definitely too high for me.
wintertriangles
09-21-10, 11:04 PM
what he said, plus I hope the list doesn't become a bit typical
TheUsualSuspect
09-21-10, 11:12 PM
I'm happy where it is. It's a powerful film, that is excellent on all counts (writing, directing, cinematography, acting).
It's a strong subject matter that isn't for everyone and an ending that splits viewers, but I love this film.
5
Can we delete all the votes for people under 30 and retotal the score? I realize that Yoda and Badger and TUS and... might not like that, but I'm just sayin' :cool:...
Wait a sec. sarah gets a waiver. You can count her votes. :D
rauldc14
09-21-10, 11:52 PM
Hey! I'm not part of voting for movies like American History X either.
wintertriangles
09-21-10, 11:54 PM
I had no say at all in this :(
planet news
09-21-10, 11:57 PM
You joined in January you freak. You totally could have if you just posted, like, not five months after you joined.
wintertriangles
09-21-10, 11:58 PM
I didn't come back until july haha
genesis_pig
09-21-10, 11:59 PM
Hey! I'm not part of voting for movies like American History X either.
Yes, I mean Wedding Crashers is totally a superior film!!!
TheUsualSuspect
09-22-10, 12:14 AM
Can we delete all the votes for people under 30 and retotal the score? I realize that Yoda and Badger and TUS and... might not like that, but I'm just sayin' :cool:...
Wait a sec. sarah gets a waiver. You can count her votes. :D
Where would the fun in that be?
planet news
09-22-10, 12:16 AM
I say go for it. I just turned 32 the other day, so I guess I'm allowed to vote next time.
honeykid
09-22-10, 12:31 AM
I don't see age as a problem, though anyone who included the LOTR films, Blade Runner or any Kubrick films need not apply again. :p:)
planet news
09-22-10, 12:52 AM
any Kubrick filmshttp://www.fobscure.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/shocked.jpg
Harry Lime
09-22-10, 01:02 AM
http://www.fobscure.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/shocked.jpg
Forget it, PN. It's honeykid.
Iroquois
09-22-10, 03:43 AM
On that note, are there any films on this list that have Drew in them? Or is that too low a blow?
Then there's the fact that Braveheart is definitely going to be somewhere in the top 30.
Thursday Next
09-22-10, 04:02 AM
Forrest Gump and American History X would probably be hovering around the edge of my top 100. Probably just outside it. Amelie I've never quite seen the appeal of.
I know I say this every time, but there really is no question of 'should be higher' 'should be lower'. This is not a list that has been deliberately ordered, nobody has sat down and thought, 'we must have X higher than Y'. It's just people's top 20 films all compiled together. And yes, it would probably be a different list if nobody under 30 voted. Or no men. Or no Americans. But that's democracy for you...
Well, when we get a large enough sample, maybe we can break down the Top 25s for different categories of age, ethnicity/country, sex, etc. I'd be interested in seeing the differences and similarities. Then again, Badger has the results for the current list although I'm not sure we know everyone's vital statistics.
Can we delete all the votes for people under 30 and retotal the score? I realize that Yoda and Badger and TUS and... might not like that, but I'm just sayin' :cool:...
Wait a sec. sarah gets a waiver. You can count her votes. :D
I actually feel guilty about my list being included. I made my top 100 shortly after joining the forums. In the several months of being a member in the forums my list has changed dramatically. I need to make a new list to contrast. My top 10 hasn't changed too much, but the other 90 films are completely different.
wintertriangles
09-22-10, 02:22 PM
any Kubrick films need not apply again. :p:)this sickens me :(
I actually feel guilty about my list being included. I made my top 100 shortly after joining the forums. In the several months of being a member in the forums my list has changed dramatically. I need to make a new list to contrast. My top 10 hasn't changed too much, but the other 90 films are completely different.
Don't feel guilty. Only people's top 25 were counted for these results, and we can always use more contributors. Nobody's lists are "better" than anybody elses for the purpose of this exercise. This was just an attempt to see where the contributing MoFos stand at the time of a snapshot. That's probably why some people will want it constantly updated.
honeykid
09-22-10, 04:15 PM
Then there's the fact that Braveheart is definitely going to be somewhere in the top 30.
That's a good point, Iro, people who nominate Braveheart can **** right off, too. Thanks for reminding me. :p:)
It seems like no matter what I'll have plenty of ****ing off to do... :cool:
WBadger
09-22-10, 05:30 PM
31. Gladiator (2000, Scott)
http://ginchyguide.frequency13.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/phoenix-gladiator.jpg
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Total Points Earned: 75
Compared to Previous List: NEW
DexterRiley
09-22-10, 05:49 PM
my 1st legit surprise.
New to the list is the surprise for me. I wonder if this means the Insider will be putting in an appearance (the role that should have netted Crowe his Oscar)
The Prestige
09-22-10, 06:15 PM
American History X shouldn't even be in this thread, let alone this high. Like Yoda said, not a bad film but it's farrr from great. I actually find it to be a very confusing film in regards to it's message on nationlism and race. Still, it's better than Romper Stomper..
DexterRiley
09-22-10, 06:38 PM
what did you find confusing about American history X exactly prestige?
honeykid
09-22-10, 06:54 PM
#31 for the most overrated film of the decade? I'm (pleasantly) surprised that it wasn't on the previous list, though. I might go and take a look at that list, just to reminisce. :D
The Prestige
09-22-10, 07:15 PM
what did you find confusing about American history X exactly prestige?
Well for starters the film seems to go back and forth between showing scenes that may justify racist attitudes and other scenes where there are moments of anti racism. But then such scenes and later succeded by moments that justify them again. It's very messy in that sense and I don't think I agree with what I think it's trying to say. Sort of reminds me of Crash in that sense.
I also don't believe in the relationship between neo nazi Norton and his black inmate. I think it's the lack of a sense of time we get, but their moments of bonding seem way too forced and trivial for Norton to just turn his back on his beliefs.
It is well acted though.
Hey Dex, don't expect The Insider to show up.
Also, I just remembered that Unabomber/E-lookalike Joaquin Phoenix is returning to the David Letterman Show tonight.
genesis_pig
09-22-10, 08:42 PM
American History X shouldn't even be in this thread, let alone this high.
Many people wont even consider Memento to be on their top 50.. but you have it as your #1.... So I feel American History X deserves its place every bit as your liking for Memento.
I think these comments are just personal opinions & not the truth.. American History X is a good film, not great but it's entertaining..
Then just cause respected movie guys like Mark says something about removing under 30 voters, this guy jumps to his own defense...
Hey! I'm not part of voting for movies like American History X either.
Movies like American History X??
You have Man on Fire at #1 & Wedding Crashers at #5.
Most won't even have those films on their Top 1000. But it's a matter of personal opinion.. & we respect that..
WBadger
09-22-10, 08:57 PM
For the list people and current update:
100. The Crow
99. Mystic River
98. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
97. Being John Malkovich
96. Double Indemnity
95. Spirited Away
94. Million Dollar Baby
93. Black Hawk Down
92. Moulin Rouge!
91. Leon (The Professional)
90. Good Will Hunting
89. Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
88. American Beauty
87. Raging Bull
86. Schindler's List
85. Signs
84. Sonatine
83. Magnolia
82. Requiem for a Dream
81. Titanic
80. The Royal Tenenbaums
79. Cabaret
78. Quills
77. Cool Hand Luke
76. The Breakfast Club
75. Monty Python and the Holy Grail
74. Midnight Cowboy
73. To Kill a Mockingbird
72. Dances with Wolves
71. Lawrence of Arabia
70. Superman: The Movie
69. Dark City
68. Psycho
67. Back to the Future
66. The Princess Bride
65. Naked
64. All About Eve
63. The Wild Bunch
62. In the Mood for Love
61. The Shining
60. Fargo
59. The Blues Brothers
58. The Searchers
57. Withnail & I
56. It's a Wonderful Life
55. Aliens
54. City of God
53. North By Northwest
52. Singin' in the Rain
51. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
50. Silence of the Lambs
49. The Third Man
48. Heat
47. Reservoir Dogs
46. The Dark Knight
45. Seven Samurai
44. Rear Window
43. Lost in Translation
42. The Last of the Mohicans
41. Sense and Sensibility
40. Die Hard
39. 12 Angry Men
38. Once Upon a Time in the West
37. Saving Private Ryan
36. Ghostbusters
35. Memento
34. Amelie
33. Forrest Gump
32. American History X
31. Gladiator
We have made it to the Top 30! Hope you are enjoying, as Yoda puts it, your cinematic striptease. :)
planet news
09-22-10, 09:37 PM
31. Gladiator (2000, Scott)http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx205/planetnews/fist.gif Vicky!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Miss Vicky
09-22-10, 11:25 PM
Hey Dex, don't expect The Insider to show up.
Also, I just remembered that Unabomber/E-lookalike Joaquin Phoenix is returning to the David Letterman Show tonight.
Must watch.
#31 for the most overrated film of the decade? I'm (pleasantly) surprised that it wasn't on the previous list, though. I might go and take a look at that list, just to reminisce. :D
My finger's itching to press the thumbs down on that one.
http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx205/planetnews/fist.gif Vicky!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D
31? Was hoping it would be higher but it's top 50 so that's awesome. Shocked it didn't make the previous list, though.
Oh and +rep to Badger for choosing a still of Joaquin.
honeykid
09-23-10, 12:12 AM
I think I've voted for 2 or 3 of those. I'm expecting to get another 4 or 5 from the last 30.
Iroquois
09-23-10, 12:38 AM
I had the best/worst idea - play a drinking game where you read through this whole thread and every time someone talks about how a certain film should be higher/lower/not on the list/whatever, take a drink. This should probably be attempted once the full list is done.
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