Marijuana: Do you do it?

[Equilibrium]

Just out of curiosity...and for some debate..

i think most of you are intelligent people and I'm trying to survey as many areas of my life concerning this subject to see how common it really is..so if you've done it..even just once lend me your thoughts...

what are your thoughts on marijuana...okay not okay?

what about historical uses.....

seriously..should marijuana be a normal part of our lives?

all of your responses will be appreciated!

[Lockheed Martin]

I'm a fairly light user, I tend to get through an eighth of an ounce a week. I don't know anyone who doesn't smoke it occassionally; it's just a fact of student life, like Escher posters and caffeine pills.

Health wise it's pretty harmless, there have been some cases of extremely high TCP varities of the plant causing/worsening schizophrenia but it's still less damaging than, say, alcohol or tobacco.

The only problem with cannabis is its advocates. They're really annoying.

Oh, and the whole funding-the-black-market thing gets me down, so I only tend to buy from my friend's mum who grows it in her library.

[Golgot]

I've never bought into the 'it's better than tobacco' thing, given the lack of filter, but at least it doesn't get smoked with as much frequency.

That said, i fell into a half-ounce-a-week habit at one point (of the low-grade stuff, not the skunky varieties). So heed that Martiny ;)

Now i'm a thoroughly healthy alcoholic instead - with just the occasional revisiting to that hallowed turf.

Eq, the main thing i've learned about it is that it's great for sparking off ideas, but not so good when it comes to following through on them. I love the fact that it exists - and i can't see myself ever abandoning it completely - but like all things, it'll turn you into an arse if you ingest too much of it.

Incidently, i'm sure there's an identical thread to this somewhere ;)

[SamsoniteDelilah]

I tried it a couple of times.
It burned my throat and made my hands smell terrible, otherwise had no effect.
I think it should be legalized, it's ridiculous that it's illegal. Hemp is a highly useful fiber and a very productive crop, and pot has several beneficial medicinal uses. But as long as it is illegal, I'm not getting into it, as it's not worth the risk of a criminal record just to get high. What if I decide to run for president? <cough>

[KnicksRIP]

I used to drink pretty heavily during my fraternity days in college (who didn't?), but that was enough for me. I prefer to have my mind clean nowadays. Just a personal choice. Marijuana is certainly better than half the junk out there (including alcohol), but I'm of the opinion that no one really needs those kinds of social crutches... but maybe that's just me being a snob. I certainly don't pretend to choose anyone else's lifestyle for them. So, I don't worry about anyone being a user... I only worry when people totally fetishize it.

[Pyro Tramp]

I definitely think the pot is a better alternative to smoking and alcohol. The effects of alcohol are far worse, socially and health wise and the smoking addiction probably has a greater long term effect anyways. As for me, i smoke it at my friends house after we finish work then drive home early morning, or on my days off have a big one before watching a film or just chill out and watch the clouds. I smoke block to mellow out and green to get mashed.

[adidasss]

in highschool i smoked a lot, now much less...simply because i don't know any drug dealers....it's nice for chillin out...or when you have insomnia like i do....puts you right to sleep....plus...all the food tastes sooo much better when you're high....:)

[AmandaSparks]

I used to do it A LOT. As I get older I get more and more annoyed with having to hang out with people I have nothing in common with but the weed just to get it. My current roommates don't smoke and when my ex husband would smoke he would be one of those smokers who'd say, "this sucks, I'm not high at all" while eating a whole bag of snack size candy bars. LOL So I'm off it right now, not for any moral or health reasons but just cause I don't have a good smoke buddy.

[nebbit]

Health wise it's pretty harmless, there have been some cases of extremely high TCP varities of the plant causing/worsening schizophrenia but it's still less damaging than, say, alcohol or tobacco.
I am not convinced that it is less damaging than Alcohol and Tobacco :nope: i see many people who have problems related to their marijuana use :yup: it is still in it is infancy as a recreational drug compared to Alcohol and tobacco, we are seeing many physical changes in peoples brains and there lungs due to it, time will tell :(

I have tried it, I loved it, I am glad that I don't use it now, i see friends that have been smoking it for 30 yrs and they appear brain dead. :yup:

[Alvin]

I much prefer alcohol. Marijuana isn't really enjoyable unless you take an absolute ****load of it. I remember a really hilarious incident, me and 2 friends had eaten a huge amount of pot, and we were sitting on my sofa talking to some guy who wasn't there, and my dog walked into the room, it was the funniest thing ever. The problem with getting this stoned is that I lose all sense of time and the ability to concentrate on anything for the next couple of days, and I'd probably rather just have a bastard of a hangover because at least then I'm able to think, if just that I wish I were dead.

[Caitlyn]

Marijuana: Do you do it?


No.....


Here are a couple of related threads that might be of interest to someone:


Does Anyone Do Drugs? (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=10251&highlight=Marijuana)

Should Marijuana Be Legalized Or Not?? (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=4919&highlight=Marijuana)

[jrs]

No. Anybody with a brain wouldn't touch it.

[Zim Zim Zoom]

Nope. Even though I do have a drink on occasion I try to keep my body and mind as healthy as possible. But that's just me.

[Yoda]

Nope. Never have. The rest of my thoughts on the matter are perfectly summarized by KnicksRIP:

I prefer to have my mind clean nowadays. Just a personal choice. Marijuana is certainly better than half the junk out there (including alcohol), but I'm of the opinion that no one really needs those kinds of social crutches... but maybe that's just me being a snob. I certainly don't pretend to choose anyone else's lifestyle for them. So, I don't worry about anyone being a user... I only worry when people totally fetishize it.

[Piddzilla]

I think people are far too hung up with the question if one's social life, or life in general, becomes better or not with the use of marijuana, and if it's a better or worse drug than alcohol. Or tobacco for that matter. I would never smoke marijuana as a substitute for alcohol since it works in a different way. Obviously it's not a very good thing to smoke several times a day, seven days a week. But the same goes for alcohol.

I think it should be legal to grow a limited amount of marijuana for your own purposes. It should not be commercialized because as soon as you can make money off it the health issues will come second. Like alcohol and tobacco. Those drugs do so much more damage to more people than marijuana (because of their availability) but still they are fully accepted in our society. And that has more to do with how they are being packaged and sold to the consumers than with their actual threats to people's health.

[adidasss]

@yoda&jrs *motions a square* :D

[birdygyrl]

I used to smoke back in the good old days in high school and college, but I haven't had any in 25 years. The last time I smoked I became so paranoid I swore it off. I remember some very fond times and good laughs with friends, and I'm glad I never became addicted. It was always recreational.

[Moo]

Rarely but yes. Maybe two or three times a year. I plan to do it quite a bit mid August when I'll recieve a few free doobers from some friends I'm doing some work for.

Medical marijuana is legal here in Canada but it's a bit of a mess now with some confusing restrictions...bah the process of making it acceptable is just so arduous and infuriating.

[SamsoniteDelilah]

Rarely but yes. Maybe two or three times a year. I plan to do it quite a bit mid August when I'll recieve a few free doobers from some friends I'm doing some work for.

Medical marijuana is legal here in Canada but it's a bit of a mess now with some confusing restrictions...bah the process of making it acceptable is just so arduous and infuriating.
It surprises me that it's so commonly illegal. It's been my understanding that it's illegality in the States is largely due to the efforts of the tobacco industry, who sought to cut out a possible competitor by making pot illegal. It would be interesting to know why it is banned in so many other countries though.

[AmandaSparks]

It surprises me that it's so commonly illegal. It's been my understanding that it's illegality in the States is largely due to the efforts of the tobacco industry, who sought to cut out a possible competitor by making pot illegal. It would be interesting to know why it is banned in so many other countries though.


Another possible theory I've heard is that the energy industry wants it illegal since hemp is supposedly a good energy source.

It also supposedly became illegal after prohibition as a trade-off for the legalization of alcohol.

[adidasss]

It would be interesting to know why it is banned in so many other countries though.
main argument , as in many other countries i presume, is that it could lead to heavier drugs....:-/
funny how alcohol isn't banned because it could lead to alcoholism....
legislative bodies are composed of geriatrics who've never even tried it...

[SamsoniteDelilah]

Another possible theory I've heard is that the energy industry wants it illegal since hemp is supposedly a good energy source.

It also supposedly became illegal after prohibition as a trade-off for the legalization of alcohol.

Both interesting and similarly pork-barrely. :/

main argument , as in many other countries i presume, is that it could lead to heavier drugs....:-/
funny how alcohol isn't banned because it could lead to alcoholism....
legislative bodies are composed of geriatrics who've never even tried it...
Yeah... you point out the very reason that all that seems suspect to me. It seems like a big nanny move, and it surprises me that it's so pervasive given that not all governments are so nanny...ist. :suspicious:

[Equilibrium]

main argument , as in many other countries i presume, is that it could lead to heavier drugs....:-/
funny how alcohol isn't banned because it could lead to alcoholism....
legislative bodies are composed of geriatrics who've never even tried it...


Weed as a gateway drug is no longer a valid approach. The statistics say 85% of those who try marijuana will not do anything beyond that.

[Golgot]

Yeah... you point out the very reason that all that seems suspect to me. It seems like a big nanny move, and it surprises me that it's so pervasive given that not all governments are so nanny...ist. :suspicious:

The tobacco companies would make big bucks either way, so i kinda doubt they're that influential in the decision. (Lots of people smoke ganja mixed with tobacco - i doubt that'd change if it got legalised).

And non-intoxicating industrial hemp is now readily available.

My suspicion is that ganja remains illegal partially coz it does have 'antisocial'/non-productive aspects - as with alchohol & cigarettes etc. As such, governments don't think it's worth endorsing another of these drugs. They think their populaces are both chemically-mollified and slovenly enough ;)

[NapalmInTheMorning]

i dont. i do think it should be legalized, though, if tobacco and alcohol is.

[B-card]

I don't do it.I don't want to and it kills brain cells that are valuable to me.

[Sedai]

All set with that ****. Tis no good.

[adidasss]

tis so!

[self-destructive]

I have smoked it a few times and pretty much it just made me really tired so I haven't done it in almost two years now. I suppose if I need to really fall asleep then it would come in handy.

[Monkeypunch]

Definitely not. I do see the medicinal benefits of it, and I support THAT, but I seriously dislike people who smoke it recreationally.

Oh, and it became illegal due mostly to the efforts of William Randolph Hearst, who owned many paper mills and wasn't making a profit because hemp was cheaper. So he had his newspapers call for it's criminalization with reports by "doctors" he paid off to falsify their findings. The public bought it and the government had to follow suit.

[kinukinu]

Since I live in Vancouver, BC I have smoked alot of weed throughout my life, it is bascially a " normal " thing to do here with pretty much no penalties from the police.

[The Taxi Driver]

Im almost 17 and i have been doing it since I was almost 15. During the school year I do it only on weekends but during summer I do it alot more. right now im vacationing in croatia and everyone I hang out with that lives here does it all the time so I do it alot more when I dont have to worry about school.

[adidasss]

Im almost 17 and i have been doing it since I was almost 15. During the school year I do it only on weekends but during summer I do it alot more. right now im vacationing in croatia and everyone I hang out with that lives here does it all the time so I do it alot more when I dont have to worry about school.
hahaha....tis the croatian way....;)

[Godsend]

I would say something that would get me banned, but I love mofoers.

Never tried it. Never will. I'm CM Punk!

Weed as a gateway drug is no longer a valid approach. The statistics say 85% of those who try marijuana will not do anything beyond that.

Link?

Also I must add that 73% of all statistics are made up on the spot. Including this one.

[The Taxi Driver]

Like I said i have been doing it for almost two years and I have never felt like I wanted to do any other type of drug. And I dont think I ever will. I have smoked a 3 ciggarettes in my life because of it but thats it

[Escape]

Never touched the stuff. Never will.

[Sedai]

tis so!

Not for me it isn't. Try smoking every day for like, 18 years, see how life is going, then tell me about how cool it is....

[adidasss]

Not for me it isn't. Try smoking every day for like, 18 years, see how life is going, then tell me about how cool it is....
yes sir! talk to you in 18 years...:)

[B-card]

In a Bulgarian forum we had the pretty much the same thread but we disscused "Is marijuana a drug or not?".Yeah officialy it's a drug if the police catch you they will lock you up for sure,Although it leads to some side effects like hallucinations melancholy and some will say that feels good "it relaxes me helps me trough difficult moments and stuff" but all it does is frying your brain.

[adidasss]

In a Bulgarian forum we had the pretty much the same thread but we disscused "Is marijuana a drug or not?".Yeah officialy it's a drug if the police catch you they will lock you up for sure,Although it leads to some side effects like hallucinations melancholy and some will say that feels good "it relaxes me helps me trough difficult moments and stuff" but all it does is frying your brain.
yet to be proven....

oh and sedai, do you by any chance drink alchohol?

[Naisy]

Nope, never have and never will, not because its illegal, not because im too good for it. Its just another one of those things that just dont interest me. The health or psych factors of it, make no difference to me. I just very simply dont care for it....

[SelenaParsley]

I have never used it. I pretty much find humor and a fun life on my own (even though I live in a bubble and have to wear "magic shoes.") We just got back from Del Rio, Texas which is about 10 miles from Mexico and that stuff was growing wild out there. I have always been afraid of being out of control so any type of drug scares me except Mountain Dew Amp, that's some good stuff! Try it, you might like it.

[Lil Smurf]

Nope, I will never use the stuff. I live on enough high without the stuff.

[gummo]

I'm an occational smoker. I would use it more frequently if I weren't allergic to it LMAO (I am allergic to all types of weeds...I am one of the allergy freaks who sneeze ten times in a row) I get baked off of one bong or two tokes. So a gram can last me a month if I smoked every day by myself. But I only smoke about once or twice a month now, when my partner has some.

[Darth Stujitzu]

Have smoked a power of the stuff in my younger days, but apart from my recent holiday, I don't smoke grass that often.
Trying to do the healthy thang these days, but I'm still prone to the odd lapse.....

[VeronicaJ]

(sorry for a late responce)
As some of you might know its allowed to have weed (5 grammes) and to grow weed (something like 2 plants per adult) in my country, but i'm one of those persons who doesnt like it. Ive never used it and personally i dont intend to. I also dont smoke shag, i hate it.
Some people over here are very addicted to **** and i think thats because its ok do to so, the brother of my best friend grows it in his house but he's always stoned, in school at home, in the morning, in the evening.
There are limits, some friends of mine smoke weed but not so much as he does.

[blibblobblib]

I'm coming out.

I'm a recreational user. I would say i smoke it about once or twice a week, normally always on the weekends. But only if im watching a film or at a music event or something. I love how it stimulates my grey matter. Obviously i understand peoples need to stay away from it if they know they have an addictive personality, or are unsure of how they would feel intoxicated by the green wonder, but i dont think marijuana deserves the bad rep it mostly gets. Sure it can lead to harder drugs, but so can alcohol and partying too much. It all depends on the user. Like take me for example, im a nice, healthy, good natured young man. Ive been smoking it for about two years now. Apart from the odd black outs, eye-bleeds and that morning i woke up covered in what appeared to be human intestines, i'm perfectly fine :)

[Sedai]

yet to be proven....

oh and sedai, do you by any chance drink alchohol?

Occassionally. Certainly not each day, which I did with the herbs for far too long. Really, I think both are fine in moderation, but moderation wasn't a possibility with me and weed. Again, bad for me, mayhap not bad for others...

**** got ahold of a nucka. Them ****s robs me of my ambition...

[VeronicaJ]

I'm coming out.
. Sure it can lead to harder drugs, but so can alcohol and partying too much.
That is also true, therefor alcohol may be a bigger issue that weed, especially because it's legal and accepted, and because of that not considered that much of a issue.
Because the entire world accepts alcohol it doenst seem like a problem, but its just an escalation i think.
Once other countries are turning out to be as soft on drugs as Holland the borders will be pushed further. What we can see now is already an extension of what used to be a big deal.
If it goes on like this, coke will be purchased with a paprica one day.
And yes, the only thing to solve it all is to ban alcohol, drugs (exect in medicin, but yeah..) coffee, tea.. ect and that is Utopia.

But... when you can control yourself and if your not addicted, i say, ok.

[Darth Stujitzu]

[QUOTE=blibblobblib]I'm coming out.[QUOTE]



I knew it all alooooooooooooooooooooooong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Must have been the comments about rubber bands!

[blibblobblib]

I knew it all alooooooooooooooooooooooong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Must have been the comments about rubber bands!
Now SSSHHHH your self! I don't think they heard me....

[Knoxville]

I used to be a semi-regular smoker but not in quite some time

[Eyes]

Nope. Never have. The rest of my thoughts on the matter are perfectly summarized by KnicksRIP:
I prefer to have my mind clean nowadays. Just a personal choice. Marijuana is certainly better than half the junk out there (including alcohol), but I'm of the opinion that no one really needs those kinds of social crutches... but maybe that's just me being a snob. I certainly don't pretend to choose anyone else's lifestyle for them. So, I don't worry about anyone being a user... I only worry when people totally fetishize it.

amen ;)

[shirble]

No,
I plan to as part of whatever introduction-to-proper-university-life, along with watching Tarkovsky movies and all of that nonsense. My parents are ridiculously big fans of the stuff and I've grown up seeing it as rather burnout-ish, so I can't really imagine it blossoming into anything impressive when I do attempt.

[adidasss]

Occassionally. Certainly not each day, which I did with the herbs for far too long. Really, I think both are fine in moderation, but moderation wasn't a possibility with me and weed. Again, bad for me, mayhap not bad for others...

**** got ahold of a nucka. Them ****s robs me of my ambition...
oh ok, i thought you were against it in general...personally i preffer getting stoned to getting drunk, i don't puke and it's quicker...plus , alchohol is just icky....

[Pyro Tramp]

Had a rather drug fueled week and out of all the different stuff i've done the last few days (coke/alcohol/pot/cigarettes) a joint is definitely the best. It's just good stuff to chill out with.

[VeronicaJ]

how much money do you spend on pot(per g) and coke?

[adidasss]

you're gonna brag that it's hella cheap in Amsterdam aren't you?;)
i'm not good with north american measurements, so i'll say the size of a pack of smokes costs about 30 dollars in croatia...( 20 euros?), depending on the generosity of the dealer of course...;)

[Pyro Tramp]

I get green for £20 on the 1/8th and solids for half that. Never paid for coke.

[adidasss]

why was i neg-repped for my post?! i want an explanation!

[Xui Wan]

No, i was a test subject for my older friends when i was very young. however, i am actually allergic... im pretty sure that that fact alone is not my reasoning for not smoking but that it was a conditioning. growing up mj was like alcohol and smoking "a crutch" and both my parents didnt, and were far set against alcohol and drugs of ANY sort... suffer the headache... and god forbid u have anything for pain in child birth:( .... grrrrr:p

[Pyro Tramp]

why was i neg-repped for my post?! i want an explanation!


I got neg-ed for my post earlier.

Bothered.

[VeronicaJ]

Sure im gonna brag, but not about the prizes but about the fact the bro a friend of mine grows it and earns tons of money:cool:

[adidasss]

I got neg-ed for my post earlier.

Bothered.
some people are seriously stuck up....

[Pyro Tramp]

some people are seriously stuck up....

Well, i'm just gonna roll a jay and chill out :)

[Equilibrium]

Well, i'm just gonna roll a jay and chill out :)

haha nice

[shirble]

On the subject of pot, there's been a bit of a debate happening in my household for the past few weeks. So I put it to the rest of you to solve it! Start being thrilled NOW.

Question: Is it at all common to use tabacco in a joint?

[nebbit]

Question: Is it at all common to use tabacco in a joint?

In my experience :yup:

[adidasss]

In my experience :yup:
i thought it was just a european thing....we always use tobacco...

oh and, nebbs is a stoner? is there a chance you can addopt me? please?

[Sci-Fi-Guy]

Used to.
Made me unsociable but made movies, TV, and snack-food seem better.
Quit permanantly about 3 - 4 years ago.

Me can think clearlier now!! :idea:

Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with it and I'm sure it will be legal one day (plus I live in BC so that's inevitable) but I been there, done that.

[nebbit]

oh and, nebbs is a stoner?
:nope:


is there a chance you can addopt me? please?
Oh Course :yup:

[Pyro Tramp]

On the subject of pot, there's been a bit of a debate happening in my household for the past few weeks. So I put it to the rest of you to solve it! Start being thrilled NOW.

Question: Is it at all common to use tabacco in a joint?

Depends how mashed you want to get.

[The Taxi Driver]

Question: Is it at all common to use tabacco in a joint?

I never used to but like adidasss said its pretty much a european thing. And ever since I started smoking joints with tobacco in it, i have yet to smoke just weed in a joint since then. I still prefer a nice packed bowl or a bong over a joint. I have no idea why

[Pyro Tramp]

Is tobacco in joints really a European thing? So is it because our stuff is stronger? Surely with solids, you can't roll without baccy anyway though.

[VeronicaJ]

i know lots of people who mix tobacco with pot, as a matter of fact, almost everybody does...

[Equilibrium]

I've seen tobacco and weed mixed together, it provides for a smoother smoke, a more flavored taste, and much weaker effect.

[blibblobblib]

For me Baccy is a must with the green. I think to smoke it pure is only for the hardcore smokers.

[shirble]

see, I just find that absolute bizarre that I've NEVER heard of that until last week.

Silly sheltered Shirble

[Equilibrium]

see, I just find that absolute bizarre that I've NEVER heard of that until last week.

Silly sheltered Shirble
No problem, come over and ill roll you a nicely mixed joint and we can talk about it. ;)

[shirble]

haha, thankyou

[VeronicaJ]

For me Baccy is a must with the green. I think to smoke it pure is only for the hardcore smokers.
or for those whom wish to clean their lungs, it is said to be cleansing..

[Sci-Fi-Guy]

I've seen tobacco and weed mixed together, it provides for a smoother smoke, a more flavored taste, and much weaker effect.
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I've tried it that way when someone would whip one out with it mixed in.

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Seriously...
The most vile tasting thing I've ever inhaled!!!
It's repulsively brutal to me and most of the people I knew at the time.

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You just don't inhale the two the same way.
One is toked.
the other is dragged.

I would obstain rather than smoke a mixed one.
That's why I didn't like hash.

[adidasss]

i don't like hash because it seems to be weaker...:-/
and i think if i ever smoked a pure joint, i would pass out....i got pretty f*cked up several times on mixed joints.....

[The Taxi Driver]

While I usualy do smoked mixed I perfer pure joints just because I jus don't enjoy the smell or taste of tobacco there have been times after smoking i felt straight up sick and wanted to throw up

[Pyro Tramp]

i don't like hash because it seems to be weaker...:-/
and i think if i ever smoked a pure joint, i would pass out....i got pretty f*cked up several times on mixed joints.....


I've whitey-ed on mixed joints but the one time i had a blunt is was shared and with a normal size rizzla and that ****ed me up. Cocktails (green, block and baccy) also have a habit of mesing me up. You American's green must be weaker if you can take it pure as the norm.

Out of interest, how do people find drinking and smoking?

[The Taxi Driver]

I personaly hate drinking. I dislike the taste, the feeling of being drunk and the bad side effects. I find alcohol to be much worse for you than weed and it really gets me mad that weed is illegal and alcohol is not. I bet alcohol has caused thousands more health problems and deaths than marijuana ever has.

[shirble]

yeah, in my experience of watching others getting drunk (I've avoided it, myself) it looks dramatically more unenjoyable than pot.

[adidasss]

I've whitey-ed on mixed joints but the one time i had a blunt is was shared and with a normal size rizzla and that ****ed me up. Cocktails (green, block and baccy) also have a habit of mesing me up. You American's green must be weaker if you can take it pure as the norm.

Out of interest, how do people find drinking and smoking?
do you mean at the same time? if so, i did that once and never again, on the last day of highschool i had a wise idea of drinking beer and smoking a joint all by myself ( my collegues stuck to beer and i already rolled it and all...so couldn't let it go to waste now could i?;))....how i managed to find my flat i'll never know....

if you mean the comparison between drinking and smoking, i'm with my croatian homey...i dislike the taste of liquor, it takes far too long to get drunk and more often than not, i get sick...and that ain't pretty...however, if i want to go out, drinking is inevitable, i need to be at least a little buzzed to go dancing...getting high just numbs you out...no chance of going out...at least not for me...

[Pyro Tramp]

I meant drinking and smoking at the same time. It always used to level me out but Download Festival was the first time mixing really messed me up, i don't recommend it, i always feel the worst effects of both now. Wondered how it effected other people.

[The Taxi Driver]

One time a friend of mine mixed smoking and drinking and in that one night he completly destroyed our friend christmas tree, broke the lock of the kids front door, took a piss on the kids mothers car, got in a fight and won and ended the night by going home running into his own mothers room and took a piss on her t.v set while screaming.

Since then he has never mixed the two again and just from watching all that first hand I never wanted to try it myself

[VeronicaJ]

do you have a name for being stoned and drunk at the same time? Here some people say 'stronken', which actually means treeroots, its a mix between 'dronken' (drunk) and stoned, but my friend and I started to name it droned
have a speacial word for it?

Also, every thursday there's a musicfestival in my hometown which is most of the time aboiut gettin drunk and high and stoned, but the music is cool..

[Sci-Fi-Guy]

I used to like lampin' the dank after being done drinking but never before.
Get home from the bar and smoke one or once the booze at home ran out.
I had no urge to drink if I lit up first. One beer would last an hour. I could eat like a maniac though.

I had an old girlfriend who would do the opposite and lamp one before drinking and then she'd get super-hosed and turn into a psychotic mental patient with violent episodes.
She did alot of things in excess whereas I liked to pace myself.

PS:
"Droned"...nice! :D

[Poppit]

Nope I and I will never try it. I try to keep my body as healthy as possible.

[VeronicaJ]

Nope I and I will never try it. I try to keep my body as healthy as possible.
same here, but ive got some friends who do it constantly. When i come home from a party i smell like one big joint. And after 3 showers i still do.
friend a mine even does it in schooltime, shes drunk or stoned (or droned if you prefer) during classes, which is funny but also wrong

[Pyro Tramp]

Some Bill Hicks quotes:

"Why is pot against the law? It wouldn't be because anyone can grow it, and therefore you can't make a profit off it, would it?"

"I believe that God left certain drugs growing naturally upon our planet to help speed up and facilitate our evolution. OK, not the most popular idea ever expressed. Either that or you're all real high and agreeing with me in the only way you can right now. [Starts blinking]"

"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do just as well ... you just realize that it's not worth the ****ing effort. There is a difference."

"Not all drugs are good. Some ... are great."


"You see, I think drugs have done some good things for us. I really do. And if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favour. Go home tonight. Take all your albums, all your tapes and all your CDs and burn them. 'Cause you know what, the musicians that made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years ... rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreal ****ing high on drugs. The Beatles were so ****ing high they let Ringo sing a few tunes."

[Revenant]

I don't take any sort of drugs like that. I don't smoke and rarely drink more then a shandy on occasion.

Smoking makes me physically ill thinking about it. I've lived in a family of smokers (store bought kind not dubious type) and its highly unpleasent to live in that environment. Put me off the things FOREVER!!!

In fact I feel uncomfortable right now.

[blibblobblib]

*awkward silence*

[gummo]

I smoked some last night while watching Scary Movie 4. It's the only way I could get through that horrible movie.

[nebbit]

I smoked some last night while watching Scary Movie 4. It's the only way I could get through that horrible movie.
Gummy, is it that bad :eek:

[blibblobblib]

I think the Tom Cruise parody on Opera looks uber funny. Twas it not? Doesnt he play peanuts with her?

[VeronicaJ]

Gummy, is it that bad :eek:
it was..
but arent you guys all scared youre gonna get caught? youll get locked up for doing it

[gummo]

it was..
but arent you guys all scared youre gonna get caught? youll get locked up for doing it


Not in Canada

[Escape]

I smoked some last night while watching Scary Movie 4. It's the only way I could get through that horrible movie.
Well I dont think it was thaaaat bad. I thought it had it's moments. :yup:

[Equilibrium]

Well I dont think it was thaaaat bad. I thought it had it's moments. :yup:
I saw that movie high and i cracked up laughing.

[VeronicaJ]

Not in Canada
canada rocks.

I once decided i will go to yellowknife one day.:D

[diamondgeeza]

I stopped smoking it, When it no longer has an effect on you, What's the point?
I was going thru almost an ounce a day!

[VeronicaJ]

thats why i dont drink a lot, because when i do it has fast effects and it makes me funny :)

[diamondgeeza]

I gave up drinking aswell!!!!
Just gotta quit the cigarettes and my body will be a temple..............sort of!!:rotfl:

[Equilibrium]

I stopped smoking it, When it no longer has an effect on you, What's the point?
I was going thru almost an ounce a day!
damn boy, i wouild hate to see what your brain looks like.

[dojo]

I don't smoke anythin and never even saw marijuana. I wouldn't use anything like that, I just don't see why I should. I cannot comment too much on this, it's just not my cup of tea ;)

[VeronicaJ]

I don't smoke anythin and never even saw marijuana. I wouldn't use anything like that, I just don't see why I should. I cannot comment too much on this, it's just not my cup of tea ;)
very conservative and admirable

[The Taxi Driver]

I don't smoke anythin and never even saw marijuana. I wouldn't use anything like that, I just don't see why I should. I cannot comment too much on this, it's just not my cup of tea ;)

do you mind me asking how old you are and where you live? because I know alot of people who never treid it but almost everyone I know has seen it in real life. Im just curious

[firegod]

I do it occasionally. I like the way it makes me feel, but I don't like to go out while stoned. Someone in one of the first posts classified it as a social crutch, but that's definately not true for me; both pot and alcohol (more than 3 or so drinks anyway) screw me up socially.

[adidasss]

I do it occasionally. I like the way it makes me feel, but I don't like to go out while stoned.

Me neither, I get a little paranoid...:giggles:

[Tony Montana]

Occaisionally. Not very often though. If me m8s offer it to iz al giv it a blast lol

[Monkeypunch]

Occaisionally. Not very often though. If me m8s offer it to iz al giv it a blast lol

are you on it right now?:confused:

[MovieMaker5087]

I was with a friend of mine who was driving and would take small puffs of it in the middle of the day.

Talk about having balls.

[BobbyB]

Nope. I enjoy a clear mind...

[Othelo]

Occasionally, very occasionally.

A good friend (whom I mentioned some time before) does almost every evening. My brother does almost every day. I like to mellow just enough to take the edge off but not for that intention necessarily.

Do I think it should be legalized, probably. Its a hell of a lot less damaging than alcohol. I plan on visiting Amsterdam in the near future, then I will be able to speak on how exactly it should be legalized.

[BobbyB]

Nope. I enjoy a clear mind...
LMAO! I got negative rep for that post.

Looks like I pissed off a pothead... LOL

[John McClane]

No, I will never smoke pot. I have been around people that have done it before, however, and I got some second hand effects; I didn't like the feeling. I do think it should be legalized, though. Alcohol, IMO, is a harder drug and it's legal.

[Ðèstîñy]

No, but I probably should!

[gummo]

No, but I probably should!

:laugh:

[SpoOkY]

Gorgeous Mofos what's with all the alcohol bashing??? I love beer! I choose not to drink to excess, but I love the taste and variety....mmmm imported overly priced mexican beer :yup:

If you drink responsibly what's the problem? The health affects are tiny if you have 4 or so one night a week and I don't even get tipsy from that. However if I feel it starts to alter how I would normally interact with people and my normal thinking, then i immediately stop. It doesn't affect you unless you let it, knowing your limits is key but the freedom to make that choice for me makes it a bit different from other drugs. It's a choice people make to drink till they're drunk and yeah just try to ban it and watch what happens. The uproar will echo so loud that whatever government is doing it is gonna regret it. Too many people love it or need it to just suddenly ban it.

Just as a personal note though I have many friends that must get drunk on an average night out to have a good time, similarly others need pot to chill out and some need it to do their art and be creative, others I know need ecstasy to have a fun night clubbing, some need a tea to relax after a hard day, others coffee to even be awake on any given day. Of course everyone could easily say "but it's not like that for me!!!", but the threat of needing something in my body to have a good time or even to feel normal is something I definately don't need in my life so I pretty much avoid all types of body-altering stimulants. But that's just me :D

[nebbit]

Spooky Darl, nice to see you :yup:

[John McClane]

Gorgeous Mofos what's with all the alcohol bashing??? I love beer! I choose not to drink to excess, but I love the taste and variety....mmmm imported overly priced mexican beer :yup:I don't think we are necessarily bashing alcohol. Just merely pointing out that it's public image is a lot better the marijuana and that it's also a harder drunk.

If you drink responsibly what's the problem?That's the exact same reason marijuana should be legalized. If you smoke responsibly, what's the problem?

[Monkeypunch]

If you drink responsibly what's the problem?

No problem there, but a good deal of people DON'T drink responsibly.

In my town, getting so drunk you can't stand seems to be the sport of choice. There are more bars than anything else in town, and you'd be extremely stupid to be on the roads after last call, unless you want to be in an accident. And it isn't one night or even two nights a week, it's like this all week. I work late nights, so I see all these people stumbling around, starting fights, getting picked up by the cops...it's like night of the living dead except instead of zombies there's drunken townies. I know I live in a bad area. My town is becoming a ghetto, there's drugs galore, and lots of drunks. So that's why I do my best to stay substance free. Thats also why I am against legalizing marijuana. If you live somewhere nice, you don't notice what it will do to crappy little towns like mine. (Thank god I'm moving soon.)

[WooblesWobble]

No, I have way too much s*** affecting my head already. I don't need to add any outside stimuli to it. :)

[Equilibrium]

No problem there, but a good deal of people DON'T drink responsibly.

In my town, getting so drunk you can't stand seems to be the sport of choice. There are more bars than anything else in town, and you'd be extremely stupid to be on the roads after last call, unless you want to be in an accident. And it isn't one night or even two nights a week, it's like this all week. I work late nights, so I see all these people stumbling around, starting fights, getting picked up by the cops...it's like night of the living dead except instead of zombies there's drunken townies. I know I live in a bad area. My town is becoming a ghetto, there's drugs galore, and lots of drunks. So that's why I do my best to stay substance free. Thats also why I am against legalizing marijuana. If you live somewhere nice, you don't notice what it will do to crappy little towns like mine. (Thank god I'm moving soon.)

if you dont mind my asking..where do you live?

[John McClane]

Thats also why I am against legalizing marijuana. If you live somewhere nice, you don't notice what it will do to crappy little towns like mine. (Thank god I'm moving soon.)Making marijuana legal isn't going to cause this huge mass binge. People are going to do it legalized or not, and I hardly think it'll get worse if it becomes legal.

[Princess j.t.]

No No No Most people I know do.
To each is own I guess.:furiousdevil:

[Funeral]

I think marijuana should be legalized not just because i smoke, but because why would someone make a plant illegal?I mean it's natural, no one has ever died from smoking weed, you can't really get addicted because addiction is all mental, and there's no way in hell anyone can overdose from weed because they would have to smoke two times their body weight.Besides no one is hurting anyone when they smoke it's just people like to make things like smoking weed a problem

[nebbit]

I think marijuana should be legalized not just because i smoke, but because why would someone make a plant illegal?I mean it's natural.
Just because it is natural you think it doesn't harm people :rolleyes:
no one has ever died from smoking weed.
How do you know that? :indifferent:
you can't really get addicted because addiction is all mental
Just because you aren't doesn't mean it isn't addictive. I work with people whose lives have been ruined by there Marijuana addiction. :yup:
Besides no one is hurting anyone when they smoke it's just people like to make things like smoking weed a problem
Well it hurts my friend and her family every day, Her son now has incurable Schizophrenia caused by his dope smoking. :yup:

[adidasss]

I'm sorry to hear that Nebs, but I think you know those cases are very rare. And might I assume he had some problems that led him to over-use of the said substance in the first place?

I'm a smoker for some 10 years now and have no problems with it myself.

[nebbit]

I'm a smoker for some 10 years now and have no problems with it myself.
It doesn't affect everyone in the same way, but it is like any drug it will damage all who take in the end, e.g.: someone may smoke cigarettes all their life and not get lung cancer, someone else may have only smoked for a few years and end up with cancer. you can't tell which one you are going to be so moderation is the name of the game. :yup:

[adidasss]

so moderation is the name of the game. :yup:

Naturally, as with anything...;)

[Monkeypunch]

if you dont mind my asking..where do you live?


I live in a town called Franklin, just outside of Boston. It used to be a fairly harmless small town, but now it's overpopulated, there's nothing to do, and there's a rather large drug problem.

Making marijuana legal isn't going to cause this huge mass binge. People are going to do it legalized or not, and I hardly think it'll get worse if it becomes legal.


Yes, it clearly will. Think about all the kids who smoke cigarrettes illegally. They could just as easily smoke marijuana illegally too, since it would be as easy to get as a pack of marlboros. So then you have a generation of kids growing up on drugs, and it just escalates from there, doesn't it? Imagine trying to raise children to say no to drugs when the government is saying, "ah, go ahead." No, it won't get immediately worse, but it will over time.

[Yoda]

One thing I like to ask myself: what are the odds I'll be laying on my deathbed, chastising myself for not having done more drugs? I imagine they're rather slim.

Granted, this is the case with any number of things, but all of them are things that lack redeeming features beyond mild distraction/entertainment.

[Ðèstîñy]

Making marijuana legal isn't going to cause this huge mass binge. People are going to do it legalized or not, and I hardly think it'll get worse if it becomes legal.

I am curious how you can say it is OK to be legal, when you have no true clue what effects it has on yourself, or all other people. It just adds to the problems we already have with people drinking. Now they will be driving this way, as well.
I used it once, for a while. I believe in it for prescription purposes. If I were dying of cancer, or whatever, in a lot of pain, I'd want a biggie. People should be monitored, though. I once dropped to about 85 lbs, from my ulcer. I was wasting away pretty fast, actually. My friends were worried, and one of them had me try it. He said I would relax, and get the munchies, which would help with me getting some weight back on. It did work, but I should have been watched a tad closer. Like the time I mowed the lawn, or tried to mow it. :indifferent:

[Funeral]

I'm not trying to get in any sort of argument Nebs, but I never said that it doesn't harm people, I'll admit it does kill some brain cells and it might be harmful on your lungs, but other than that it's not really harmful.It is a proven fact that no one has never died from smoking weed because I really don't know how you could die from smoking weed because there has never been any case of anyone getting lung cancer from smoking weed.It isn't addictive people just love getting high, I haven't smoked since Saturday so I don't see the addiction getting to me.Lastly people don't really hurt anyone when they smoke and don't give that crap on how weed and drugs destroy families because thats from the government putting out propaganda saying that drugs are bad and destroy families and all that B.S.So don't tell me all that crap.

[Ðèstîñy]

The double negative, has led to proof positive.

*A funny, from Clue!*

[adidasss]

One thing I like to ask myself: what are the odds I'll be laying on my deathbed, chastising myself for not having done more drugs? I imagine they're rather slim.

Granted, this is the case with any number of things, but all of them are things that lack redeeming features beyond mild distraction/entertainment.
I for one would pay to see you stoned...:yup:

Yes, it clearly will. Think about all the kids who smoke cigarrettes illegally. They could just as easily smoke marijuana illegally too, since it would be as easy to get as a pack of marlboros. So then you have a generation of kids growing up on drugs, and it just escalates from there, doesn't it? Imagine trying to raise children to say no to drugs when the government is saying, "ah, go ahead." No, it won't get immediately worse, but it will over time.I think a parallel with alcohol is necessary, would you ban that as well?

[VeronicaJ]

Lastly people don't really hurt anyone when they smoke and don't give that crap on how weed and drugs destroy families because thats from the government putting out propaganda saying that drugs are bad and destroy families and all that B.S.So don't tell me all that crap.
Well, i'm very anti drugs, and when i saw my best friend smoking weed i felt awful.

It's the government? That's nonsense! I KNOW families that were destroyed. A friend of mine did some drugs, but her bro really was into weed. He smoked it 10 times a day and cared more about weed that about school, his family and his future. He now is in a hospital.

By your post only i can see youre addicted to it. Not the official way of addiction, but you cant live without and youre trying to justify your behaviour by blaming it on the governent. Well that's easy, isnt it?
It's legal here in Holland, they don't put out propaganda, saying it's bad, and families here are destroyed as well..

[adidasss]

Well, i'm very anti drugs, and when i saw my best friend smoking weed i felt awful.

It's the government? That's nonsense! I KNOW families that were destroyed. A friend of mine did some drugs, but her bro really was into weed. He smoked it 10 times a day and cared more about weed that about school, his family and his future. He now is in a hospital.

By your post only i can see youre addicted to it. Not the official way of addiction, but you cant live without and youre trying to justify your behaviour by blaming it on the governent. Well that's easy, isnt it?
It's legal here in Holland, they don't put out propaganda, saying it's bad, and families here are destroyed as well..
I find it somewhat strange that you live in Holland and yet are oblivious about certain facts about your country's drug policies.


1) The Netherlands follows a policy of separating the market for illicit drugs. Cannabis is primarily purchased through coffee shops. Coffee shops offer no or few possibilities for purchasing illicit drugs other than cannabis. Thus The Netherlands achieve a separation of the soft drug market from the hard drugs market - and separation of the 'acceptable risk' drug user from the 'unacceptable risk' drug user.

2) "There were 2.4 drug-related deaths per million inhabitants in the Netherlands in 1995. In France this figure was 9.5, in Germany 20, in Sweden 23.5 and in Spain 27.1. According to the 1995 report of the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction in Lisbon, the Dutch figures are the lowest in Europe. The Dutch AIDS prevention programme was equally successful. Europe-wide, an average of 39.2% of AIDS victims are intravenous drug-users. In the Netherlands, this percentage is as low as 10.5%."


3)"The number of addicts in the Netherlands has been stable - at 25,000 - for many years. Expressed as a percentage of the population, this number is approximately the same as in Germany, Sweden and Belgium. There are very few young heroin addicts in the Netherlands, largely thanks to the policy of separating the users markets for hard and soft drugs. The average age of heroin addicts is now 36."

4)"The figures for cannabis use among the general population reveal the same pictures. The Netherlands does not differ greatly from other European countries. In contrast, a comparison with the US shows a striking difference in this area: 32.9% of Americans aged 12 and above have experience with cannabis and 5.1% have used in the past month. These figures are twice as high as those in the Netherlands."

5)"The prevalence figures for cocaine use in the Netherlands do not differ greatly from those for other European countries. However, the discrepancy with the United States is very large. The percentage of the general population who have used cocaine at some point is 10.5% in the US, five times higher than in the Netherlands. The percentage who have used cocaine in the past month is 0.7% in the US, compared with 0.2% in the Netherlands.*"

Source:http://www.drugwarfacts.org/

[John McClane]

Yes, it clearly will. Think about all the kids who smoke cigarrettes illegally. They could just as easily smoke marijuana illegally too, since it would be as easy to get as a pack of marlboros. So then you have a generation of kids growing up on drugs, and it just escalates from there, doesn't it? Imagine trying to raise children to say no to drugs when the government is saying, "ah, go ahead." No, it won't get immediately worse, but it will over time.Guess what? You can charge people for selling cigarettes illegally. I doubt that our government would not do the same for marijuana. Here's an example of kids "growing" up on something. Kids in Italy grow up with alcohol. There no drinking age there yet, their alcohol abuse rate for adults and children is much lower then in the USA. Why is that?

[nebbit]

I'm not trying to get in any sort of argument Nebs, but I never said that it doesn't harm people, I'll admit it does kill some brain cells and it might be harmful on your lungs, but other than that it's not really harmful.
:laugh: thats not enough! to say, it is, harmful, I am not anti just Dope, but also anti Alcohol and cigarettes, there all "not really harmful" :)
It is a proven fact that no one has never died from smoking weed because I really don't know how you could die from smoking weed because there has never been any case of anyone getting lung cancer from smoking weed.
Well not yet, it hasn't been around long enough (like Alcohol and cigarettes) to know yet, it is becoming a stronger and stronger drug as people refine there growing techniques :yup: I have seen many people who have tried to kill themselves as a direct result of there addiction to, JUST Dope. :(

It isn't addictive people just love getting high, I haven't smoked since Saturday so I don't see the addiction getting to me.
No, well it won't, as it is a fat soluble drug that deposits in the fat cells of your body, especially the brain, it detoxes over a longer period and so no withdrawal in the way we all think. It can stay in our bodies for up to 90 days. :eek:

Lastly people don't really hurt anyone when they smoke and don't give that crap on how weed and drugs destroy families because thats from the government putting out propaganda saying that drugs are bad and destroy families and all that B.S.So don't tell me all that crap.
For some families it does, because it is ok for you doesn't mean it is for everyone :nope: you are one of the lucky ones :yup: I see people who smoke 60 and up, bongs a day, that can hurt families when they see a member out of it all the time.:(

I have no animosity towards you, I am just giving you some info about my experiences, just something for you to think about :)

[adidasss]

Honestly Nebs, people can kill themselves with food too, are we supposed to ban that as well? Senseless people do senseless things, the problem is not in the means, but the people themselves.

[nebbit]

Honestly Nebs, people can kill themselves with food too, are we supposed to ban that as well? Senseless people do senseless things, the problem is not in the means, but the people themselves.
They can http://bestsmileys.com/eating1/7.gif

I am just giving my point of view, we all think that we are better or wiser than someone who is addicted, I have heard that from a lot of addicts over the years. You can do what you like :yup: but I am just trying to say be aware :) don't clog up the health system when you are old and brain dead :laugh:

[Equilibrium]

I for one would pay to see you stoned...:yup:


I second that motion.

Chris...haha...you stoned would be something very interesting. This isn't peer pressure, but honestly..if one of our presidents was able to say he experimented..shouldn't you? haha

[Funeral]

For your information Veronica I haven't smoked in about a week and I'm doing fine in school and I can quit anytime I really feel like it.So what are you talking about I'm addicted?And how am I blaming it on the government?You see it on tv all the time.Besides it's more about peer pressure than anything.And the reason why your country doesn't put out propoganda about not smoking weed is because they don't have a problem with it.People tend to do things they aren't suppose to do, that's why there is a major drug problem and the government puts out propoganda to tell the people not to do drugs.And Nebs I think alcohol and nicotene should be illegal because those things do kill people even though I drink and smoke cigarettes, and those people must have been high as hell if they tried to smoke themselves to death lol.And I already know about the fat cells, but it only stays in your system for about a month.I know what your talking about when they destroy families some what because I know people whose parents get deeply sadden when they find out their kid is smoking weed, because they did it in the past and they don't want their kid to do it and make wrong decisions in life and stuff like that, and also I think I've had a lot more crazier experiences with people doing stupid stuff, not really with weed but with other drugs.But other than that I really don't have any animosity towards you either Nebs, because I'm not that kind of person to hate someone just because of thier opinion because thats their right to do so.

[chet seven]

i heart the ganja

[VeronicaJ]

I find it somewhat strange that you live in Holland and yet are oblivious about certain facts about your country's drug policies.


1) The Netherlands follows a policy of separating the market for illicit drugs. Cannabis is primarily purchased through coffee shops. Coffee shops offer no or few possibilities for purchasing illicit drugs other than cannabis. Thus The Netherlands achieve a separation of the soft drug market from the hard drugs market - and separation of the 'acceptable risk' drug user from the 'unacceptable risk' drug user.

2) "There were 2.4 drug-related deaths per million inhabitants in the Netherlands in 1995. In France this figure was 9.5, in Germany 20, in Sweden 23.5 and in Spain 27.1. According to the 1995 report of the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction in Lisbon, the Dutch figures are the lowest in Europe. The Dutch AIDS prevention programme was equally successful. Europe-wide, an average of 39.2% of AIDS victims are intravenous drug-users. In the Netherlands, this percentage is as low as 10.5%."


3)"The number of addicts in the Netherlands has been stable - at 25,000 - for many years. Expressed as a percentage of the population, this number is approximately the same as in Germany, Sweden and Belgium. There are very few young heroin addicts in the Netherlands, largely thanks to the policy of separating the users markets for hard and soft drugs. The average age of heroin addicts is now 36."

4)"The figures for cannabis use among the general population reveal the same pictures. The Netherlands does not differ greatly from other European countries. In contrast, a comparison with the US shows a striking difference in this area: 32.9% of Americans aged 12 and above have experience with cannabis and 5.1% have used in the past month. These figures are twice as high as those in the Netherlands."

5)"The prevalence figures for cocaine use in the Netherlands do not differ greatly from those for other European countries. However, the discrepancy with the United States is very large. The percentage of the general population who have used cocaine at some point is 10.5% in the US, five times higher than in the Netherlands. The percentage who have used cocaine in the past month is 0.7% in the US, compared with 0.2% in the Netherlands.*"

Source:http://www.drugwarfacts.org/
So.. with saying some facts you want to make clear people in The Netherlands are no junkies? Because that's the only point of posting all these facts, i cant see any other.
As a matter of fact, soft drugs are officially illegal, though they are accepted. That goes for cannabis and paddo's.

So what's the point of all these facts, please do explain for i cant see what youre trying to say.
Drugs tear up families, no matter where you live.

[m0dern_pr0phet]

There are quite a few complicated factors which presumably deter the legalisation of marijuana under national governance such as:

-I'm not sure how truthful the notion of "smoking marijuana leads to harsher drugs" is but that is certainly something to consider if marijuana was to be legalised. Naturally if this notion is accurate the number of hard drug users would increase; providing some worst case scenarios directly related to the use of marijuana.
- The price of marjiuana would inevitably increase due to government taxation on the product (maybe to the same extent/more than cigarette tax?) Will it lead to the trend similar to the criminal instincts of crack smokers for a fix of their drug (some may argue the drug isn't addictive yet obviously craved. I use crack as an example as cigarettes will be undoubtedly cheaper than marijuana come commercialisation).
- Maybe an earlier issue but the option of identifying drivers under the influence of marijuana and prosecuting for such action isn't as easy as the breath test. (Obvious consequences may extend from this)

I believe Netherlands' stand on the drug is the best way to go about it. Though it isn't truly 'legalised', its illegality is left loose allowing for a higher discipline if needed. There are some cases where defined protocol would not suit the situation and I believe the legalisation of marijuana is one.

[Funeral]

Well put modern

[The Taxi Driver]

Im not sure how true this is but I heard that if it was decriminalized then every person in jail for a marijuana related offense would have to be set free just like when prohibition ended and everyone in prison for alcohol was let out. I like smoking weed but thats seems like it could be a big problem emptying out prisons like that

[John McClane]

Im not sure how true this is but I heard that if it was decriminalized then every person in jail for a marijuana related offense would have to be set free just like when prohibition ended and everyone in prison for alcohol was let out. I like smoking weed but thats seems like it could be a big problem emptying out prisons like thatNot exactly, some people are in there for violent drug offenses. They wouldn't let them go but, your average Joe that just got busted because he wanted to visit Alice in Wonderland would have to be let go. :D

[adidasss]

So.. with saying some facts you want to make clear people in The Netherlands are no junkies? Because that's the only point of posting all these facts, i cant see any other.
As a matter of fact, soft drugs are officially illegal, though they are accepted. That goes for cannabis and paddo's.

So what's the point of all these facts, please do explain for i cant see what youre trying to say.
Drugs tear up families, no matter where you live.
The point is that Holland has accepted a drug policy that is ultimately the most advanced in the world and helps keep the problem under control. There will always be drugs and drug users, there's nothing anyone can do to eradicate it completely...

And like I said to Nebs, IMO, the problem is in the people, not the means. Screwed up individuals will find a way to screw up their lives and the lives of their families regardless of whether they have (easy) access to pot or not.

[nebbit]

And like I said to Nebs, IMO, the problem is in the people, not the means. Screwed up individuals will find a way to screw up their lives and the lives of their families regardless of whether they have (easy) access to pot or not.
You are partly right, :yup: not everyone who becomes mentally ill are srewups before they develope it. :yup: I never said everyone who smokes develops a mental illness, it just happens in my work that is all i see :(

[Boris The Hand Gernade]

No, I do not.

[Monkeypunch]

There no drinking age there yet, their alcohol abuse rate for adults and children is much lower then in the USA. Why is that?

Have you ever been to another country? The national character is much different here than it is anywhere else. Americans want MORE, RIGHT NOW! and that is why we take things to excess, whether it be SUV's, supersize at McDonalds, guns, drugs, or alcohol. No, not everyone is like this, but a lot of people are.

[John McClane]

Have you ever been to another country? The national character is much different here than it is anywhere else. Americans want MORE, RIGHT NOW! and that is why we take things to excess, whether it be SUV's, supersize at McDonalds, guns, drugs, or alcohol. No, not everyone is like this, but a lot of people are.I've been to Greece and Italy. There are laws where you can't sell alcohol to someone you think is already drunk, think they wouldn't do that with marijuana? I'd say hardly so.

[VeronicaJ]

Alcohol is also a big issue. I know in the US the drinking age is 21 (right?) But here in Holland it's 16, as well as the sigarette (buying, not smoking, same as alcohol) law.

If the government accepts everything, kids don't feel the rush of using something that's forbidden. I remember a friend of mine doing drugs at age 12 because you can get it anywhere. Same with alcohol, it's no big deal WHILE IT SHOULD BE. A friend of my boyfriend drunk too much and killed himself in a car accident at age 18, that's just too young.

[Krackalackin]

Drugs only lead to bad things. I mean it. Only bad. Learn from the plainess of these words, all those.

[Escape]

No, cause Marijuana = Cocaine and Cocaine = http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r49/Escape_bucket/Guy20Snorting20Cat.gif

[Bill]

Don't snort your father!

[nebbit]

No, cause Marijuana = Cocaine and Cocaine = http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r49/Escape_bucket/Guy20Snorting20Cat.gif
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[karibou]

I've tried it, but it only made me hungry and sleepy. I also became disoriented, which is not good, given I've inherently no sense of direction whatsoever. :bawling:

Personally, I don't like the smell of it, so I make my husband toke outside. He doesn't seem to mind. :)

[Equilibrium]

I've tried it, but it only made me hungry and sleepy. I also became disoriented, which is not good, given I've inherently no sense of direction whatsoever. :bawling:

Personally, I don't like the smell of it, so I make my husband toke outside. He doesn't seem to mind. :)

Are you by some chance the same Karibou from RT?

[karibou]

Are you by some chance the same Karibou from RT?

Yep. Do you post there? :)

[karibou]

Sure do. This is Rufaat.


Glad to have you on board here :)

Rufaat!!

*big hugs*

How have you been? :)

[Equilibrium]

[LEFT]

Rufaat!!

*big hugs*

How have you been? :)

Pretty good. I'm rather active around here so I'll look forward to talking with you. I've missed you lots!

[Happycamper007]

what you gonna do when the bud comes for you.

[Monkeypunch]

what you gonna do when the bud comes for you.

what you gonna do when someone posts something so completely meaningless that you feel that you've gotten dumber from just reading it?

[adidasss]

Spark up another spliff?:D

[Equilibrium]

Spark up another spliff?:D

if we ever meet, im smoking you up big time

[adidasss]

You'd better bring some of that American stuff, I hear it's much more potent...;)

[Stuja]

Hehe I like bacon

[hippinhippie]

In Highschool I would smoke it at parties I attended. But now I would never pick it back up again.

[Mrs. Darcy]

I used to smoke it too, when I was in my late teens, then one night, I abstained while the rest of the gang lit up, and I noticed how dumb they were when they were high. I was embarrassed for all the times I'd been loaded and probably just as stupid. So I stopped smoking pot that night.

I have a bad habit of being silently judgemental of people older than their teens/ early 20s that light up, or do drugs. My father smoked pot everyday until he died, and I was judgemental of him too.

I suck, I know, but that's my problem to deal with...

[Officer 663]

Not smoking pot is for broke people.

[PimpDaShizzle V2.0]

No, and I'm better than you if you do smoke it. That's fact.

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f23/pina45/mr-t.gif

[Sammy..*]

thats wrong..because some people smoke it because there used to it an its wat they think is ryte so dnt judge before getting to know sumone!!:scream:

[Phntmbanana]

Once in a blue moon

[Misterking]

It used to be 100% legal here in Alaska, but that was till about 2 years before I moved here. Currently the possession of up to 4 ounces or 4 plants is considered "acceptable home usage" under state law.

When I was a young stoner I thought I'd be a pothead for life, but my interest simply waned. I hardly even drink anymore. I've turned into one of those middle-aged lightweights. Two puffs and I'm all "tee hee!" My old mates probably wouldn't even recognize me anymore.

I couldn't live in Amsterdam...y'all are nuts. :dizzy:

[VeronicaJ]

thats wrong..because some people smoke it because there used to it an its wat they think is ryte so dnt judge before getting to know sumone!!:scream:
And why are you used to it? Because one day you thought it was cool to smoke.

So, i think you're wrong.

[hippinhippie]

thats wrong..because some people smoke it because there used to it an its wat they think is ryte so dnt judge before getting to know sumone!!:scream:

I smoked it when I was in Highschool and I still knew it was wrong. It was against the law as a matter of fact. So for you to say just because you are used to smoking it doesn't make everyone think that it is the right thing to do. Most ppl have common sense enough to know that it is against the law which usually means thatit is n't something you should be doing.

[MadMan_731]

I've done it a handful of times, but only because I wanted to experience it, and half due to peer pressure. I prefer alcohol though, and I haven't smoked in months.

[The Taxi Driver]

I smoked it when I was in Highschool and I still knew it was wrong. It was against the law as a matter of fact. So for you to say just because you are used to smoking it doesn't make everyone think that it is the right thing to do. Most ppl have common sense enough to know that it is against the law which usually means thatit is n't something you should be doing.

I'm not one to believe just because something is against the law that means its wrong. I prefer to let my own judgment decide what is wrong and right. I'm not going to say weed is not bad for you but I wouldn't call it morally wrong. Some people use alcohol or cigarettes or caffeine as a vice. Me personally I don't drink coffee or any other major caffiene drinks nor do I smoke and I rarely drink. So I don't see how people who use those other things are better than me just because what they use is not illegal. Addiction is addicition and I would rather be a pot head than an alcoholic or nicotine fiend. However to each his own

[John McClane]

Weed usage = Stupid.
Freedom = The right to do stupid things.

[adidasss]

Weed = harmless
Freedom = being able to do harmless things...

:)

[John McClane]

Weed = harmless
Freedom = being able to do harmless things...

:)Weed is not harmless, and I beg you to try and prove otherwise.

[mark f]

Have you watched this movie? http://www.dvdverdict.com/images/covers/grass.jpg

Have you read this book? http://www.erowid.org/library/books/images/consumers_union.jpg

I realize that the latter is quite old, but it's packed with scientific information, and there are plenty of updates available.

[hippinhippie]

I'm not one to believe just because something is against the law that means its wrong. I prefer to let my own judgment decide what is wrong and right. I'm not going to say weed is not bad for you but I wouldn't call it morally wrong. Some people use alcohol or cigarettes or caffeine as a vice. Me personally I don't drink coffee or any other major caffiene drinks nor do I smoke and I rarely drink. So I don't see how people who use those other things are better than me just because what they use is not illegal. Addiction is addicition and I would rather be a pot head than an alcoholic or nicotine fiend. However to each his own
Regardless if you feel that not everything that is against the law is bad the people who make the laws feel that it is and it is still looked upon by the majority of society and those who pass laws as wrong and illegal. So doing it and feeling that it is just fine in your mind that it is is contradicting, because if you live in this society you must follow the laws and that is one of them so people who smoke pot must know in the back of there heads that what they are doing is wrong.

[hippinhippie]

Weed is not harmless, and I beg you to try and prove otherwise.
Exactly, weed impairs your thinking and slows your reaction time. So weed is very harmful. You can just ask my friends mother who's husband was killed by a man who was under the influence of Marajauna while he was driving down the highway. That is pretty damn harmfull if you ask me.

[adidasss]

Weed is not harmless, and I beg you to try and prove otherwise.

Well if we're talking about health, junk food is harmful too, but they haven't outlawed it yet. If we're talking about the effects on one's behavior, alcohol is much more harmful and it's not illegal. So comparatively, it is rather harmless...:\

@Hippi: People get killed because they were talking on the cell phone, maybe we should make cell phones illegal too...:j

[RexBliz]

you guys who dont smoke shouldnt be talking about how much its sooooooo wrong to do alcohol is even worse u CANNOT do anything with a drunk person who is acting crazy its like talking to a brick wall but that **** is legal go see how many people get locked up for drunk and disorderly go see how many people DIE everyday for alcohol poisoning and drunk driving then go see how many people die from cancer from smoking tobacco products such as cigarettes every day but another person coulda been smoking weed all his life and still be in the NFL playing a wide receiver and no one would even know bottom line is if weed is as bad as the law makes it seem how come u never heard of a person OD on weed or mushrooms u wanna know why because it may be a drug in ur eyes but believe it or not unlike cigarettes alcohol crack and every other REAL DRUG IT IS NOT MAN-MADE IT IS NATURAL meaning I can smoke 200 blunts and be fine tomorrow but i bet anything if i drink 3 bottles of vodka u wouldn't see me post on here ever again cuz i'd probly be dead from alcohol poisoning

[RexBliz]

obviously all u guys who smoked and had a bad experience had to have been smoking with a bunch of idiots who probly aren't very intelligent in the first place and had nothing intelligent to say to make u feel comfortable but u cannot judge based on a bad experience either because ill bet the majority of u have had more bad experiences with a drunk mofo than anyone else on the planet and the main reason weed is illegal cuz the government cannot tax something u can grow in ur yard and u can make to much money with weed its not like corn and potatoes its called weed for a reason once its planted it will grow like grass or anything u dont want in ur yard WHICH WOULD BE LIKE MONEY GROWING ON TREES and uncle sam cant get his money so they figure we cant either when i do my taxes i wouldnt be able to put WEED on there simply cuz i could LIE and just be like i made 100 bucks when really i payed for 2 cars and i dont even gotta worry about bills all cuz of my money tree think about it another guy posted it was legal in alaska until 2 years ago now u could only carry 4 ounces WTF the population is like 400 in alaska u cant make no money there thats why its legal that **** is ******** and its contradicting why the hell would weed be legal in Alaska and Nevada but not everywhere else even if you dont smoke weed just think about all the money u could be making doing nothing just like the arabs who come here and open liquor shops and sell to everyone even kids younger than me but I still gotta show ID cuz i look younger than this fool who is acting a fool and I am of age but he didn't show u no ID GET OUTTA HERE oh and people alcohol was illegal too at time cuz you weren't able to operate machinery under the influence till THE PEOPLE made the government realize everyone is not gonna stop just because you say its wrong you people who say weed is wrong are no different from people who said alcohol is wrong its ur opinion but my opinion is majority rules but its the mighty dollar thats the answer to all problems but since the problem is the poor need to stay poor so the rich can stay rich weed will probly never be legal in the just in a couple states where the rich aint gonna be affected by the poor people making money (ALASKA and NEVADA[Las Vegas])

[Monkeypunch]

you guys who dont smoke shouldnt be talking about how much its sooooooo wrong to do alcohol is even worse u CANNOT do anything with a drunk person who is acting crazy its like talking to a brick wall but that **** is legal go see how many people get locked up for drunk and disorderly go see how many people DIE everyday for alcohol poisoning and drunk driving then go see how many people die from cancer from smoking tobacco products such as cigarettes every day but another person coulda been smoking weed all his life and still be in the NFL playing a wide receiver and no one would even know bottom line is if weed is as bad as the law makes it seem how come u never heard of a person OD on weed or mushrooms u wanna know why because it may be a drug in ur eyes but believe it or not unlike cigarettes alcohol crack and every other REAL DRUG IT IS NOT MAN-MADE IT IS NATURAL meaning I can smoke 200 blunts and be fine tomorrow but i bet anything if i drink 3 bottles of vodka u wouldn't see me post on here ever again cuz i'd probly be dead from alcohol poisoning

Marijuana impairs your usage of spelling, sentence structure, and punctuation, apparently. :laugh:

Oh, and Marijuana technically is a drug, despite it being NOT MAN-MADE IT IS NATURAL.

I don't smoke marijuana, and I don't drink alcohol. Both are extremely bad for you.

[RexBliz]

Haha

No fool thats what 13 years of playing PC games and online chatting do to you. I can type like this all day if I wanted to but man I just didn't feel like it. My impaired self was able to type both of those posts in a matter of like 5 mins

[adidasss]

@Monkey: Extremely? C'mon man...

[Misterking]

So doing it and feeling that it is just fine in your mind that it is is contradicting, because if you live in this society you must follow the laws and that is one of them so people who smoke pot must know in the back of there heads that what they are doing is wrong.


Just what kind of hippie are you, anyway? :laugh:

[Monkeypunch]

@Monkey: Extremely? C'mon man...

Have you never seen someone who's so burned out that even completely sober they seem stoned? I know several people like that. It's just sad.

[The Taxi Driver]

Regardless if you feel that not everything that is against the law is bad the people who make the laws feel that it is and it is still looked upon by the majority of society and those who pass laws as wrong and illegal. So doing it and feeling that it is just fine in your mind that it is is contradicting, because if you live in this society you must follow the laws and that is one of them so people who smoke pot must know in the back of there heads that what they are doing is wrong.

Yes I do live in a Society and for the most part follow the laws but Just because the majority of society may look at smoking weed in the privacy of my own home or with my friends as something bad. It does not change the fact that I know nobody is getting hurt or suffering some severe consequences from what I am doing and honestly the fact that it is illegal does not in the back of my head make me feel like I'm doing something wrong but rather just make me more cautious around law enforcement.

[Caitlyn]

... just make me more cautious around law enforcement.



Obviously not.... :p

[mark f]

When was the last time you busted somebody for dope?

[Caitlyn]

When was the last time you busted somebody for dope?


It's been a while... and even then it was not for "just dope" ....

[adidasss]

Have you never seen someone who's so burned out that even completely sober they seem stoned? I know several people like that. It's just sad.

Actually no I haven't. But I have seen people so overweight that they have difficulty moving. Anything can be "extremely" dangerous if taken in excess...:j

Oh and I totally forgot that Caitlyn is da police!:laugh:


:|


....*runs away*

[hippinhippie]

Just what kind of hippie are you, anyway? :laugh:

:) I used to do it , but really saw no benefit from it what so ever and knowing that I could get in trouble from it really has turned me off. But I am still a hippie. Just a clean one now. :)

[hippinhippie]

Yes I do live in a Society and for the most part follow the laws but Just because the majority of society may look at smoking weed in the privacy of my own home or with my friends as something bad. It does not change the fact that I know nobody is getting hurt or suffering some severe consequences from what I am doing and honestly the fact that it is illegal does not in the back of my head make me feel like I'm doing something wrong but rather just make me more cautious around law enforcement.

A question to you?

After you smoke it with your friends or at your house with your friends do they or you drive back to there perspective places? If you or your friends do there is quite a large chance of someone getting hurt. Either yourself or some innocent person.

[hippinhippie]

Well if we're talking about health, junk food is harmful too, but they haven't outlawed it yet. If we're talking about the effects on one's behavior, alcohol is much more harmful and it's not illegal. So comparatively, it is rather harmless...:\

@Hippi: People get killed because they were talking on the cell phone, maybe we should make cell phones illegal too...:j


Junk Food has not been linked to Cancer. Yes it is bad for you if your over eat it, but it isn't really linked to anything if you eat it in moderation. I agree with you on the Alcohol issue and something should be done about that, but never will.

I agree that people can lose their lives while talking on the cell phone and there should be a Country law on handless cell phones while operating a vehicle. But to compare a cell phone to driving under the influence of alcohol/ or drugs is just ridiculous. The cell phone issue is because of not paying attention to what the driver is suppose to be. The driving while under the influence or drugs or alcohol the driver could easily feel as if they are concentrating, but they are so impaired from the drugs or alcohol they don't know any better.

[mark f]

OK, so let me ask you this: Are there certain levels where you think drugs are dirty, and some where they aren't, or are all the issues turning toward "You're Screwed!"

[adidasss]

Junk Food has not been linked to Cancer. Actually... (http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/186242/two_studies_link_junk_food_diet_to.html)<---click. Yes it is bad for you if your over eat it, but it isn't really linked to anything if you eat it in moderation.
"Effects of junk food:

*
Lack of energy:
This is known as a short-term adverse effect resulting from eating junk foods. As junk foods don't provide you with essential nutrients, even though they can be very much sufficing, you feel weakened. Consuming deficient nutrients could be as a supplement.
*
Poor concentration:
This is another result of junk food habit. These are traced to affect in immediate and medium term periods. When you have a sumptuous junk meal rich in oil you feel drowsy and fail to concentrate. Over sustained periods of junk food eating, blood circulation drops due to fat accumulation. Lack of vital oxygen, nutrients and proteins particularly can stale your grey (brain) cells temporarily.
*
Heart Diseases:
Junk food diet is a major cause of heart diseases. Myocardial infarction (a sever heart failure) is due to plaque formation in arteries which demands heart to put in extra effort to pump blood on the down stream. On the up stream, there is lack of returning blood to heart. This causes two damages to heart - heart fatigues by the continuous extra effort it makes and it suffers oxygen supply. The onset and remedy both take a long time and a great determination to win.
*
High Cholesterol
Apart from forming plaques and constricting arteries, cholesterol also affects liver where it is metabolized. High cholesterol from junk food and diet strains liver damaging it eventually. This is a long term effect."

http://www.dietpolicy.com/diets-articles/junk-food-addiction.htm

Oh and, unlike smoking tobacco, which has been proved to cause cancer and is legal, the studies regarding marijuana and its connection to cancer have been somewhat contradictory.
Nay. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html)
Yay. (http://www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9808/18/marijuana.cancer/)

I agree that people can lose their lives while talking on the cell phone and there should be a Country law on handless cell phones while operating a vehicle. But to compare a cell phone to driving under the influence of alcohol/ or drugs is just ridiculous. The cell phone issue is because of not paying attention to what the driver is suppose to be. The driving while under the influence or drugs or alcohol the driver could easily feel as if they are concentrating, but they are so impaired from the drugs or My point was that driving under the influence is an offense (so is using the cell phone whilst driving methinks), but it shouldn't be illegal to use it and enjoy it in places where it won't be harmful to others, such as bars or at home...

[The Taxi Driver]

A question to you?

After you smoke it with your friends or at your house with your friends do they or you drive back to there perspective places? If you or your friends do there is quite a large chance of someone getting hurt. Either yourself or some innocent person.

I would be lying if I said we never have and that is potentially reckless on our part. However I do try and make an honest effort to not get behind the wheel until after at least an hour or 2 after smoking so I'm not nearly as high as a was directly after smoking.

so let me ask you this, have you ever been out to a party or anywhere till late and been really tired and driven yourself or other people home? that too is potentially dangerous.

I do not expect an answer to that question I'm just showing that there are millions of things that are dangerous in the world but we shouldn't refrain from things just because bad stuff might happen.

So yes weed could be dangerous as well as driving, running, cycling, horseback riding, dancing, eating, drinking, sleeping. The point is if you are a reckless person by nature anything can be a potential threat to you.

[VeronicaJ]

so let me ask you this, have you ever been out to a party or anywhere till late and been really tired and driven yourself or other people home? that too is potentially dangerous.

I do not expect an answer to that question I'm just showing that there are millions of things that are dangerous in the world but we shouldn't refrain from things just because bad stuff might happen.

You are absolutely true about other reasons to not driving. But smoking weed is yet another thing that can hurt other people. Dont give yourself another reason to get injured.

I know what its like being in a car when the driver is tired, or drunk, or without a permit. And at that time, it felt pretty cool and funny. But later i realised we had been fools. My exboyfriend is one of those guys who drink beer every day, so he has a high standard of getting pissed. He always drove me home, after we had a drink. At that time i thought: nothing ever went wrong, i've seen him worse, so why not?

But DO NOT test faith... Its just not worth it.

[Tatanka]

I did all my pot-smoking, pot-brownie-eating ventures by the time I was in 8th grade, thanks to my mother's shack-up boyfriend-turned-stepfather-low-grade-drug-dealer who started out dealing marijuana, gave to me freely, then moved my mom and their infant son to a larger southern metropolis to deal bigger stuff.

In my junior year of high school, I rode down there with my grandparents to effect a "sneak" rescue of my mom, my brother and their cat while my stepfather was out dealing. He had sold absolutely everything they owned to support his habit. That was the last time anyone ever saw him.

I have several family members who do use, but there's a detrimental history to their usage as it affects their own immediate families. Perhaps some people can use without calamitous effects (and that may be a distortion of perspective), but my family is not an example.

[jrs]

I don't know if I answered this thread or not but have I ever smoked pot???? Hell no!

[Powdered Water]

I just celebrated 11 years clean and sober and believe me I *did it* plenty! For me though it was never really about if I was going to do it as much as, when do we do it and where are we going to get some more? Glad I'm done with it though. I think a lot clearer now than I did then so the effects have warn off quite a bit, it takes a lot of time for that stuff to leave your system, and if you go to long you may not ever recover.

I agree with the sentiments a few pages back about the statistics too, given time I could find just as many statistics proving that dope is a *gateway drug* as any one else could that wants to say it isn't. You're better off just leaving it alone if you're afraid that it may lead to other things.

[nebbit]

As most people know I have just moved into a new house :yup: I have been given a new phone number http://bestsmileys.com/talking/3.gif at 4.15am 2 days ago my phone rang http://bestsmileys.com/talking/2.gif a young man :frustrated: says but Jason on, I tell him Jason doesn't live here, he starts to scream down the phone, listen Bitch I know he's there put him on, this goes on for a few minutes and i hang up :frustrated: he rings back http://bestsmileys.com/talking/8.gif again with his good manners he tells me he needs some drugs so F'nnn Bitch put Jason on, finally after a while i tell him to stop speaking to me in that manner, and, his Mother must be proud of him then I hang up and take the phone off the hook :furiousdevil:
See what drugs can do :yup: he was probably a nice person but drugs have reduced him to not a nice person :yup:

[Powdered Water]

4:15 am? Sheesh! Little early for them little druggies to be out and about innit?

[The Taxi Driver]

As most people know I have just moved into a new house :yup: I have been given a new phone number http://bestsmileys.com/talking/3.gif at 4.15am 2 days ago my phone rang http://bestsmileys.com/talking/2.gif a young man :frustrated: says but Jason on, I tell him Jason doesn't live here, he starts to scream down the phone, listen Bitch I know he's there put him on, this goes on for a few minutes and i hang up :frustrated: he rings back http://bestsmileys.com/talking/8.gif again with his good manners he tells me he needs some drugs so F'nnn Bitch put Jason on, finally after a while i tell him to stop speaking to me in that manner, and, his Mother must be proud of him then I hang up and take the phone off the hook :furiousdevil:
See what drugs can do :yup: he was probably a nice person but drugs have reduced him to not a nice person :yup:

That dude sounds a bit insane. You sure he wasn't looking for heroin or coke because weed doesn't normally do that to people. And yes drugs are very bad but I'm sure this individual wasn't a nice easy going man before drugs. I'm sure the drugs escalated this bad characteristics but didn't form them.

[MarKus]

I haven't tried it yet... :D

[VeronicaJ]

I haven't tried it yet... :D
That's good!

[nebbit]

That dude sounds a bit insane. You sure he wasn't looking for heroin or coke because weed doesn't normally do that to people. And yes drugs are very bad but I'm sure this individual wasn't a nice easy going man before drugs. I'm sure the drugs escalated this bad characteristics but didn't form them.
I would say He was looking for Speed http://bestsmileys.com/eek/3.gif I have meet some really nasty people at detox units, I have worked in, on all kinds of drugs :yup: most of them are really nice when they are clean and sober :yup:

[adidasss]

Have you met anyone in detox for Marijuana?

[Equilibrium]

Good to see one of my old threads resurrected....

how is everyone?

drug free i hope..

[Becs]

No way in Hell would I try it. I think my lungs would explode and I would choke to death.

[Equilibrium]

No way in Hell would I try it. I think my lungs would explode and I would choke to death.



thats medically impossible

[VeronicaJ]

thats medically impossible
it would be a good tale to scare little kids off..

[Becs]

It has scared me off thinking of it. :)

[adidasss]

You're 5, why are you posting in grownup threads?

[Sedai]

You're 5, why are you posting in grownup threads?

Who?

[Equilibrium]

?what?

[adidasss]

Who?

Let's assume I was referring to the person right above my post...;)

[Sedai]

Be nice to the kiddies, Adi! ;)

[adidasss]

Kiddies should stick to the sand box...;)

[Becs]

5 , i don't think so. I am 13 and as I see it I have more manners in my little toe than you do. I think you should go back to the sand box and maybe you can learn something there. :)

[nebbit]

5 , i don't think so. I am 13 and as I see it I have more manners in my little toe than you do. I think you should go back to the sand box and maybe you can learn something there. :)
I hope your not talking about sweet little Addie :nope:

[Becs]

Yep, He said I was 5. :)

[Caitlyn]

Yep, He said I was 5. :)


Don't pay Addi any mind... he acts like he is still 5 once in a while....

[Becs]

Don't pay Addi any mind... he acts like he is still 5 once in a while....


Ha ha, I think he is harmless and I really think he was pretty much joking around as I am too.:D

[7thson]

Comeon Ads , even if all you say is golden, you must teach with an open mind - it was you who taught me that much.

[Caitlyn]

Ha ha, I think he is harmless and I really think he was pretty much joking around as I am too.:D


Ah... but the fun part of this will be Addi wondering if I am joking or not.... ;)

[adidasss]

Don't pay Addi any mind... he acts like he is still 5 once in a while....

I know you are but what am I?http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc220/diezelpower/durise.gif

[Becs]

I know you are but what am I?http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc220/diezelpower/durise.gif
:rotfl:

[iluv2viddyfilms]

I don't object to marijuana as much as the people who tend to act the way the stereotype tells them they should act. People who live up to the pothead idiot persona that's associated with marijuana.

I've tried it three or four times and it wasn't anything great or appealing to me.

I've been around people who smoke pot on a regular basis. I had an ex-girlfriend who had to smoke every single day.

Now I'm teaching and I have many lazy pothead students. Ugh.

Like I said I'm not against the drug, just the lifestyle associated with it.

[meatwadsprite]

I can basicly assume from a person's top 10 if they are or not. Seems there actually are a lot.

[blibblobblib]

Wad, so are you saying you can tell by someone's top ten whether they like a spliff or not? Thats a bit presumptuous. Enlighten me and share some examples.

[nebbit]

Enlighten me and share some examples.
That would be a first for Meatface, who i LOVE becasue If i don't he bad reps people :yup:

[Equilibrium]

That would be a first for Meatface, who i LOVE becasue If i don't he bad reps people :yup:

Lol, nebbit....so sad to see one of the powerful rocks of MOFO such as yourself bow down to such a skimpy member in fear of bad reps..:D

[mark f]

That was a joke, Son, but it looks like you got it.