Oscar's Best Picture 2016

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Cast your own vote for Best Puicture.
3.45%
2 votes
THE BIG SHORT
0%
0 votes
BRIDGE OF SPIES
1.72%
1 votes
BROOKLYN
18.97%
11 votes
MAD MAX: FURY ROAD
8.62%
5 votes
THE MARTIAN
51.72%
30 votes
THE REVENANT
1.72%
1 votes
ROOM
13.79%
8 votes
SPOTLIGHT
58 votes. You may not vote on this poll




Hoping for Spotlight to win. That movie had no business being as entertaining as it was.

Sicario and Creed imo should have been nominated. Both deserved serveral nominations and neither did. Would have been fun nominees but of course the Oscars hate fun.

Would have replaced Brooklyn and Bridge Of Spies. I haven't seen either but they just seem Academy pandering movies and of course the Academy loved them. To be fair I haven't seen either one, just going off my gut. Sure they are adequately entertaining movies.

I think Revenant wins it. Academy has a hard on for that director right now. Still haven't seen it and I'm sure it's good. Just meh I don't know. I can't spell his name but I thought that director deserved everything he got last year, this though, while another great piece of filmmaking just seems like Oscar pandering again. Over it. I will watch it soon thought.
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Hoping for Spotlight to win. That movie had no business being as entertaining as it was.

Sicario and Creed imo should have been nominated. Both deserved serveral nominations and neither did. Would have been fun nominees but of course the Oscars hate fun.

Would have replaced Brooklyn and Bridge Of Spies. I haven't seen either but they just seem Academy pandering movies and of course the Academy loved them. To be fair I haven't seen either one, just going off my gut. Sure they are adequately entertaining movies.

I think Revenant wins it. Academy has a hard on for that director right now. Still haven't seen it and I'm sure it's good. Just meh I don't know. I can't spell his name but I thought that director deserved everything he got last year, this though, while another great piece of filmmaking just seems like Oscar pandering again. Over it. I will watch it soon thought.

This is the most confusing category this year. Spotlight, Revenant, or Mad Max: Fury Road.


I'm sticking with Revenant, but it's not a gaurantee



Bright light. Bright light. Uh oh.
It may have gotten even more confusing since The Big Short won the Producers Guild Best Picture.
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The Revenant for me.
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I think The Revenant will win, I want Mad Max to win, but I would be okay with Spotlight winning. I don't think there is a bad film on the list of nominees I would say the weakest are Big Short and Bridge of Spies.



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I suspect The Revenant will take home the prize, but I'd love to see it go to Mad Max: Fury Road.

Also think it's BS that Inside Out didn't get a best picture nom. The Academy needs to get their heads out of their collective ass and nominate animated films for Best Picture.
I agree with Inside Out, especially considering that they still had two more BP slots left to fill.

Why not nominate Inside Out and Star Wars: The Force Awakens too.



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I agree with Inside Out, especially considering that they still had two more BP slots left to fill.

Why not nominate Inside Out and Star Wars: The Force Awakens too.
I would have liked to see Creed and Ex Machina, but that's just me.
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Spotlight just won the top honor at the SAG's

It's now a strong contender.
Disappointing. I thought The Big Short had a better ensemble and I hope it wins Best Picture.



Disappointing. I thought The Big Short had a better ensemble and I hope it wins Best Picture.
You are the first person i have seen say The Big Short was above average or that something other than Fury Road or The Revenant deserves Best Picture. Haven't seen it myself yet.



Haven't seen Brooklyn or Room yet but of the rest I'd have to go with The Big Short. Weak year indeed.
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I picked and really want The Revenant to win, but it seems like Spotlight will take it.


As for Best Director, I picked and really want Inarritu to win, but it seems very likely they will give it to George Miller for Mad Max.



You are the first person i have seen say The Big Short was above average or that something other than Fury Road or The Revenant deserves Best Picture. Haven't seen it myself yet.
Check it out. It also won the Best Picture award at the PGA awards, which has correctly predicted the Oscars in recent years.



2015 was a weak-ish year, and that's not helped by ignoring brilliant original ideas like Inside Out and Ex Machina for solid but unspectacular fall dramas (Brooklyn, Bridge of Spies). I wasn't a big fan of Revenant or Big Short, the two that look like the most likely winners. I voted for Mad Max, but realistically the Academy is in bed with Inarritu, so he's winning.





The Best Picture race, whether there are five nominees, eight, ten, or if they expand it to twenty, always comes down to two or maybe three films. For there to be even three titles legitimately in the mix is unusual. Most years there is a clear favorite, if not an outright assumed winner, and one other that could, conceivably, upset it...though it almost never does. But this has turned into a year where three movies seem to have legitimate shots at winning, and possibly even a fourth as that wild card (in this case, very wild). Leaving the final award of the night an actual mystery, for once. Can hardly wait to find out which one it will be.

Right off the bat, you can pretty much throw out any of the Best Picture nominees that don't have their directors nominated. This year that would be Bridge of Spies, Brooklyn, and The Martian. Movies without a corresponding director nomination have won before. I mean it just happened three years ago with Argo and Ben Affleck. But before that it hadn't happened since Driving Miss Daisy (1989) and Bruce Beresford (Oliver Stone won for Born on the Fourth of July). Before that, you have to go all the way back to first few years of the Academy Awards.

In 1932 Grand Hotel won Best Picture without Edmund Goulding being nominated (Frank Borzage won for Bad Girl), and at the very first Academy Awards Wings won Best Picture while William Wellman went unnominated. But for those first two misses, it should be noted that the format of the Oscars (which hadn't even been given the nickname "Oscar" yet) was very different. Wings was one of only three nominees for what was called "Outstanding Picture", though they also had a similar category called "Unique and Outstanding Production", which also had three nominees and Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans won that. By the second Academy Awards, those two were combined for a single Best Picture award, with five nominees. That first ceremony also had Best Director split between Drama and Comedy categories, with five total nominees (two comedy, three drama). That was similarly blended into a single Best Director category in the second year, though they allowed seven nominees. The year Grand Hotel won, the fifth ceremony, there were eight Picture nominees but only three Best Directors.

So if you throw out those first two instances when the Academy Awards were still playing with the format quite a bit, in all the decades since it stabilized with five Best Director nominees, it's just Driving Miss Daisy and Argo in all those years to win Best Picture without a nomination for the director. Is it going to happen again? Sure, at some point. Is it going to happen this year with Bridge of Spies, Brooklyn or The Martian, just a few years after Argo? Nope.

To make the Best Picture race truly interesting, I think there really has to be the possibility of a split between Picture and Director. It is certainly not uncommon for those two awards to go to different films, though the norm is for them to match. So far in the 21st Century it has become relatively common, compared to the five or six decades that ended the 1900s, to have a split now and again. In the fifteen most recent Oscars, from Birdman on back to Gladiator, Picture and Director have matched ten of the fifteen years. But two of the last three were mismatches. Iñárritu and Birdman of course won last year, but before that 12 Years A Slave won Picture while Alfonso Cuarón won Director for Gravity, and Argo won Picture though Ang Lee won Director for Life of Pi (again, Affleck was not even nominated for Director).




The Revenant seemed like the immediate favorite when the nominations were announced, and since then Alejandro Iñárritu has emerged even more clearly as the heavy favorite for Best Director (see this thread). But while The Revenant may well still win Best Picture, it seems that both Spotlight and The Big Short have picked up some serious ground in recent weeks, and The Revenant is no lock to win, even if Iñárritu does.

The Revenant is a very brutal, bleak movie. Not that brutal and bleak movies haven't won before, but in comparison to The Big Short and Spotlight, it is a cinematic ordeal. That is its strength, of course, that it is an immersive experience, and why the direction and cinematography are such heavy favorites in their categories. But will the overall Oscar votership go for it? They certainly could. 12 Years A Slave, The Hurt Locker, No Country for Old Men, and The Departed are recent winners that could broadly be described as major bummers, even if in a couple of them the protagonists actually survive their ordeals. So the Academy isn't afraid of going dark and brooding and punishing. But that does contrast The Revenant pretty sharply with both Spotlight and The Big Short, both of which are serious subjects, but not presented in the unrelenting style that The Revenant employs.

Besides its darkness and intensity, the main marker that has me questioning whether The Revenant can really win, from a Oscar history buff perspective, is that its screenplay is not nominated. As rare as it is for a film to win Best Picture without its director being nominated, it is almost as rare for one to win without the screenplay getting a nod. Doesn't have to win, but at least be one of the ten nominated screenplays. Once again throwing out those initial years of the Academy Awards where they were figuring out the format, in the many decades since then there have been exactly three movies that won Best Picture without their screenplay being nominated. They are Larry Olivier's Hamlet (1948), Robert Wise's The Sound of Music (1965), and James Cameron's Titanic (1997). That's it. Olivier refused to take a writing credit for the adaptation, meaning it is officially credited to Billy Shakespeare alone, Rodgers & Hammerstein's The Sound of Music was a Broadway smash before it was adapted into the movie, and for all of its spectacle I think anybody other than twelve-year-old girls must acknowledge that Titanic has some absolutely dreadful dialogue.

The Revenant was partially adapted from a novel of the same name which tells a version of the true life story of famous fur-trapping mountain man Hugh Glass, who was indeed mauled by a Grizzly and managed through sheer force of will to survive after being left for dead by the men he was traveling with. The same core story was adapted into the 1971 film Man in the Wilderness starring Richard Harris. Iñárritu's film is extremely visual, and there are huge stretches of the running time where DiCaprio's Glass is alone, barely alive, hiding from men or animals, and doesn't have a syllable of actual written dialogue. Which is probably why it didn't make the cut for screenplay. But the question becomes is The Revenant so strong and beloved and respected by the Academy voters that it is going to triumph the way Hamlet, The Sound of Music, and Titanic did? I have my serious doubts. If it does, it joins that very small list. But if you just want to play the odds of Oscar history, there is at least enough doubt there to knock it off of its early front-running perch.

Which leaves room for speculation.

Speaking of room, Room, though it is nominated for Best Director, doesn't seem to have the proverbial snowball's chance of actually winning Best Picture. I like this movie A LOT, and if I was filling out an actual Oscar ballot, I may even slot it as my number one choice. But while I think it is fantastic that it got as many high profile nominations as it did, and that Bree Larson is the heavy favorite to win Best Actress, I can't imagine any scenario where it actually wins, here. It is one of those yearly instances where it is truly an honor to have been nominated.



The Big Short has an all-star cast and it is on a serious subject, thought it takes an irreverent and inventive approach to presenting that subject matter as a feature narrative. Its director, Adam McKay, is nominated for both Best Director and for co-writing the screenplay, from Michael Lewis' non-fiction best seller. It is a heavy favorite to win Adapted Screenplay, but does that all add up to a Best Picture win? A few weeks ago, it seemed very unlikely, but in addition to whatever intangible "buzz" it may have as more people, including Oscar voters, actually get to see it, the feather it has in its cap that absolutely MUST insert it into the conversation for Best Picture, is that it won the Producers Guild Award. Unlike the Directors Guild, the Producers Guild does not have as long a history with their year-end award, but it does usually mirror the eventual winner for Best Picture. Usually, not always.

The PGA Award has been around since 1989, when Driving Miss Daisy won their inaugural honor. It also won Best Picture at the Oscars. In the subsequent twenty-five years, the PGA winner and the Academy Award winner have differed only seven times. Those differences were The Crying Game/Unforgiven, Apollo 13/Braveheart, Saving Private Ryan/Shakespeare in Love, Moulin Rouge!/A Beautiful Mind, The Aviator/Million Dollar Baby, Brokeback Mountain/Crash and Little Miss Sunshine/The Departed. So they had three "misses" in a row there in the middle of the last decade, with The Aviator, Brokeback Mountain, and Little Miss Sunshine, but none since (though they did cheat a bit and had a tie two years ago with 12 Years A Slave and American Hustle). Is The Big Short going to be another anomaly, the first such one in nine years?

The Golden Globe Awards that the Hollywood Foreign Press Association gives out are often not the best predictor for Best Picture since they have two categories for the top films of the year, Drama and Comedy/Musical (however they choose to define what a comedy is versus what's a drama). It is also a completely different and much, much smaller voting body than the industry awards, which have at least some overlap with the Academy voter pool. However, since this may be a year where the PGA seems like it is giving a different signal than other awards, let's go back to see what they did in January. The Revenant won the Golden Globe for Best Picture Drama, over Spotlight, Room, Carol, and Mad Max: Fury Road. The Golden Globe for Comedy or Musical went to the wacky Disco-fueled hijinks of The Martian over Joy, Spy, Trainwreck and The Big Short. Although yet another problematic predictor that is only accurate half the time, the Screen Actors Guild Award for Outstanding Cast, which some like to equate to Best Picture, that went to Spotlight over Beasts of No Nation, Trumbo, Straight Outta Compton and The Big Short.

So though it won the prestigious Producers Guild Award, The Big Short did NOT win either of the Golden Globes or the SAG Award. Since the PGA has moved from what used to be five nominees and expanded to ten as well as moving to the same “preferential voting system” that the Academy started using at the same time (seven years ago), the PGA winner has matched Oscar every time. And though there isn’t complete overlap in membership, another reason the PGA is used as a great indicator is that they have a similarly sized voting body.

Since they have changed to the preferential voting, has a movie won the PGA and Oscar without winning a Golden Globe, SAG for Cast, or the DGA Award? No. The Hurt Locker did not win the Golden Globe for Drama (Avatar) nor the SAG (Inglourious Basterds), but Kathryn Bigleow did get the DGA Award (as well as the Oscar). That’s the closest a Best Picture winner has come to losing all of the other big awards leading up to the end, and still managed to win. The PGA is really the only award The Big Short has won, this season. Is it alone strong enough to float it to the top of the Oscar ballots?

So how about Spotlight this awards season? It did win the SAG for cast, which is right only 50% of the time, but did not win a Globe, nor the PGA, nor the DGA. But could it win Best Picture? For as inventive as The Big Short’s narrative is and for as immersive and stark as The Revenant is, Spotlight is very traditional, by comparison. It employs nothing especially fancy as it tells its story of the Boston Globe reporters who uncovered proof that the Catholic Church was well aware of the abuse problems and was systematically moving offending Priests from parish to parish. The cast is excellent, but in narrative and stylistic terms it follows a pretty standard formula, even if it applies that formula very well. It is a good movie, but other than the story itself there is nothing very memorable, cinematically speaking. In a year with some very flashy and intense choices, will this throwback drama be the one that manages to rise to the top and actually win Best Picture?

Spotlight is a rarity in that it is a positive story about journalism. Most of the great films with journalism as a subject use it as a whipping boy, be it The Sweet Smell of Success, Ace in the Hole, A Face in the Crowd, Shattered Glass, Nightcrawler, or even Citizen Kane. There definitely are other great movies about the good journalism can do, like Good Night and Good Luck, The Killing Fields and All the President's Men, the latter being the most obvious cousin to Spotlight. Most of the 21st Century movies about journalists seem to be preoccupied with relevance in a new media age while Spotlight really is old fashioned in that it just wants to show how a huge scandal like this can be revealed, piece by piece, source by source.



And then of course there is that freakiest-deakiest of all wild cards, Max Max: Fury Road. If Alejandro Iñárritu doesn’t win Best Director, surely it will be the 70-year-old Aussie George Miller who does. There were thirty years between the release of the third Mad Max film, Beyond Thunderdome, and Fury Road. Mel Gibson wasn’t back as the title character, but Miller and his mayhem were. It was a hit and incredibly well reviewed, currently idling at a massively impressive 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. It is insane and brutal and kinetic. Gloriously so. Furiosaly so. It has racked up all sorts of critics prizes and its fanbase is as loyal as a paint-inhaling War Boy. Its fans have convinced themselves that in this year when there is no clear frontrunner, something like Schindler’s List or Titanic, that George Miller is going to triumph as Best Director and that Mad Max: Fury Road is going to plow ahead and explode as Best Picture come Oscar night. That kind of passion is cool, it’s what makes being a cinema nerd fun, and it may increase the viewership of this particular ceremony, with fanboys and fangirls making a drinking game out of the evening, bolting back full cans of Fosters for every win it amasses, and early on when the technical awards are given it should do very nicely indeed. But actually winning Best Picture?

I really don’t see it happening. Obviously it can happen, it is on the ballot unlike any other number of recent blockbusters from The Dark Knight to Star Wars: The Force Awakens. As I listed above when talking about The Revenant, yes, the Academy can get dark and weird in their Best Picture choice, from time to time. I mean Silence of the Lambs won Best Picture, what more evidence do you need? But no Sci-Fi film has ever won. As beloved as the genre is globally, even more pronounced over the past couple decades when filmmaking technology finally caught up with some of the fantastical things the genre can imagine, the Academy doesn’t go for this type of thing. Not in numbers enough to win. Yes, the cumlination of Tolkien's Fantasy epic The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King won just about every award there is, including Best Picture, and Sci-Fi films as diverse as A Clockwork Orange, Star Wars (1977), E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, Avatar, District 9, Inception and if you want to include them Gravity and this year’s The Martian, along with Fury Road, have garnered Best Picture nominations. Even Avatar, which was then the biggest box office champ of all time having passed Cameron’s own Titanic, didn’t pull off the win, though. Classics of the genre including 2001: A Space Odyssey, Close Encounters of the Third Kid, Alien, Blade Runner, The Thing, The Terminator, Back to the Future, Jurassic Park and on and on were never even nominated for Best Picture. None of them were able to get it done...but it’s going to be the fourth Mad Max movie that does?

Mad Max: Fury Road is so much kick-ass fun, but thinking that is what the Oscars reward for Best Picture is either forward thinking or being completely blind. Movie nerds would absolutely lose their ***** if it was called for the final award of the night, but it is very unlikely to happen. If it does, what a lovely day, and may your chained up electric guitar player’s riff echo to the gates of Valhalla. But when it doesn’t, and The Revenant or The Big Short or Spotlight is called, try not to break too much stuff in your house, or to road rage some poor unsuspecting mini-van in protest.

What about total number of nominations? Doesn't the film with the most noms wind up winning? As with most Oscar trivia, well, I mean sometimes, yeah. This year for these four I am focusing on, The Revenant has the most nominations of anything at twelve, Mad Max: Fury Road two behind at ten, Spotlight six, and The Big Short has five. Last year the Picture winner, Birdman, did have the highest number of nominations, nine, tied with The Grand Budapest Hotel. And in 2012, The King's Speech had the most nominations in the field, with twelve. But in 2014, both Gravity and American Hustle had ten nominations to 12 Years a Slave's nine. In 2013 Lincoln towered over all with a dozen noms, Life of Pi had eleven, while the Best Picture winner Argo had only seven. In 2012 Scorsese's Hugo had one more nomination, eleven, than the winner The Artist. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button had thirteen nominations to winner Slumdog Millionaire's ten. And when The Hurt Locker bested Avatar, they both were tied coming in with nine nominations each.

The Revenant may win Best Picture, but it having more than twice as many nominations as The Big Short doesn't mean one has a lock over the other.


Given ALL of that, with no obvious winner sitting there waiting to be anointed, if I had to guess...I think it is going to be Spotlight that ultimately prevails and is named the next Best Picture by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. In a year full of bleak stories up for Best Picture, it is the one that perhaps is the most positive. It’s about good old fashioned journalism and truth and the powerful being taken to task instead of getting away with it. It’s an underdog story in that sense, not as adrenaline-pumping as Rocky, but with a well earned righteousness of good triumphing over evil (or if not triumphing, at least exposing it). The Revenant is about survival and revenge, The Big Short a largely comic look at how things got so damn bad but while those handful of smart people figured it out nobody was able to stop it and nothing much has changed, and Fury Road is a wonderfully chaotic train of pure cinema that doesn’t stop moving. I think among those choices, the more narratively conservative and relatively uplifting story is the one that will rise to the top. It may not be listed first on a lot of those Academy ballots, but it’ll be second and third, and in a year where there is no clear cut front runner, that may be exactly what it takes.

Gonna be fun finding out, anyway.



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Great post Holden! Didn't miss a word of it, and I don't do that very often.