More EU Madness!

Thanks, Cap! This is a classic retort! Your dissection of the psychological bent of the poster is profound and right on the proverbial money. Hear! Hear!

...Some people derive a sense of power by being able to say "Hey, I'm one of the ones who got your discussion closed down! I shut you up! I have power on the Internet!" ...

Not addressing this to you, Rules, but as with the terrorist thread - the same people who complain about the views expressed and the very existence of the thread itself (and who call for or would just love to see it closed) are the ones who keep coming back and replying or arguing or bumping. It's like they can't help themselves.

If they weren't interested in the topics (or their desire to see them closed down wasn't at the level of an obsession) then they'd be on other threads - like the people who actually ARE NOT interested and ARE on other threads - never feeling upset by reading about things they truly are not interested in.

Some people derive a sense of power by being able to say "Hey, I'm one of the ones who got your discussion closed down! I shut you up! I have power on the Internet!" They (meaning not all but some - and it's pretty easy to tell who's who) continue the conversation and keep driving it toward antagonism and then cry foul that the topic and any discussion thereof should be shut down.

Rules asked for it to be removed from Now Playing because 1. he was frustrated at seeing it there constantly which 2. concerned him it was all guests were viewing on a movie forum and it might be turning them away. You know that.

No one can force the forum owner to close a thread. He/She is the arbiter and makes the decision, and rightly so.

But it seems some people may be purposefully engaging in those behaviors BECAUSE they want to see this and other threads closed as well.

I had NOTHING to do with the terrorist thread being closed. Yoda is his own man, and gave the reasons why it was closed.

Unknown to you, my only PM on the subject to Yoda was about a week ago when I asked him to reopen the terrorist thread, as I believed it would help stop the spread of hostile-baiting threads and at least keep it confined to one thread.

But like I said Yoda is his own man, and he didn't take me up on my suggestion. See how wrong you are about my intentions.

I agree with everything you said here (except the last sentence). Did you notice that I started off the post you quoted saying I wasn't addressing this to you, Rules? Because I remember you only suggested the thread be moved out of the Now Playing menu. .

I agree with everything you said here (except the last sentence). Did you notice that I started off the post you quoted saying I wasn't addressing this to you, Rules? Because I remember you only suggested the thread be moved out of the Now Playing menu. I was agreeing with your observation that this thread has taken on a more personal tone than that other one - but provided reasons why that will happen unless all non-movie topics are banned - or if topics begin to be selectively banned and that's a slippery slope.

I also agree that the terror thread should be reopened - give the "phobes" their own little place to corral - let anyone not interested look at a million other threads (if they're able). Hopefully without more terror attacks, that thread would die down on it's own as was the pattern for the couple years it was open in the past.

Look what happened here, by the way: Don said something, I replied. No response. Not from him or anyone who agrees with him. A day passes, Captain repeats the exact same arguments, and Don reflexively cheers it on. Meanwhile, the response I posted has yet to be addressed by either of them, and actually has to be repeated.

What more evidence do you need that this isn't about persuasion, discussion, or debate? Substantive replies don't just get ignored, but the things they were replying to get repeated and echoed, with not the slightest attempt made to address them. QED.

Do you mean like your rudeness to the forum owner with your incorrect insults about censorship?

So if you knew what happened why did you ask me what Rules did?

Your question exactly



Looks like your regular flaming to me.



Rules was gleefully accused of getting the thread shut down and you just fueled that rumour.

Not addressing this to you, Rules, but as with the terrorist thread - the same people who complain about the views expressed and the very existence of the thread itself (and who call for or would just love to see it closed) are the ones who keep coming back and replying or arguing or bumping. It's like they can't help themselves.

If they weren't interested in the topics (or their desire to see them closed down wasn't at the level of an obsession) then they'd be on other threads - like the people who actually ARE NOT interested and ARE on other threads - never feeling upset by reading about things they truly are not interested in.

Some people derive a sense of power by being able to say "Hey, I'm one of the ones who got your discussion closed down! I shut you up! I have power on the Internet!" They (meaning not all but some - and it's pretty easy to tell who's who) continue the conversation and keep driving it toward antagonism and then cry foul that the topic and any discussion thereof should be shut down.

This is another classic manipulative tactic that I'm glad most who lean toward the right don't engage in. Most right of center would rather debate (& maintain free speech) than have it shut down by claiming they're offended and can't stand these threads that they themselves keep coming back to day after day, hour after hour.

This is another classic manipulative tactic that I'm glad most who lean toward the right don't engage in. Most right of center would rather debate (& maintain free speech) than have it shut down by claiming they're offended and can't stand these threads that they themselves keep coming back to day after day, hour after hour.

Yoda closed the terrorist thread because of the comments that were said there. The blame lays on those who got personally insulting on that thread.

BTW the European Politics UK thread also got closed (at least in part) by a rude personal comment from Don Schneider to Christine about how many children she had. Let's blame the person(s) who are responsible and not cry faux censorship or claim that liberal agendas are controlling the board.

I'm honestly lost here. Can you please point me to your post to which I apparently didn't reply? Thank you.

Frankly, your apparent obsession with me is getting boorish.

sigh

yeah, no. you know how many feminist groups i've been apart of over my many years using different forums and websites, that have been reported and shut down by various right-wing, mra groups? currently i'm actually follow a tight knit group of women on facebook from group to group because their groups are always eventually reported and shut down, supposedly for being inappropriate or offensive. i'm now apart of a group that had to, in order to not get reported/deleted, privatize and doesn't accept new members without a heavy screen process.

ALSO, can we stop pretending that people want this shut down because it's offensive, and moreso because it's literally the same people (myself included) saying the same things (myself included), and eventually just turns into petty bickering and insults. it's not debate. there actually are some good debate threads on Mofo, about controversial topics, but i wouldn't call this one of them.