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Now for the other random countdown stats:

  • By far, the farthest of farthest, the biggest point gap was between Come and See (#2) and Apocalypse Now (#1) at a staggering, HUMONGOUS 200 points. Just read Holden's above post.
  • The next biggest gaps were between All Quiet on the Western Front/Das Boot (53) and Lawrence of Arabia/Paths of Glory (40).
  • After Apocalypse Now's 45 ballots, the film with the highest presence was, surprisingly, The Bridge on the River Kwai in 32 ballots.
  • There were 19 ties through all the countdown; most of them in the back-end. Five (5) of those ties were among 3 or 4 films.
  • The film with the highest IMDb score in the countdown was Schindler's List at 9.0, with The Human Condition III in second place with 8.8 points.
  • There were 15 films in the countdown with 100% RT scores.
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Big Thanks to Keyser for running the countdown! Awesome job and smoothly run too!


And another Big Thanks to the man behind the screen Yoda, who I'm sure worked his MoFo butt off doing all sorts of things just so we can have fun!

And yet another Big Thanks to Holden Pike, Thief & John Connor for revving up the countdown with all those fun and interesting facts.

And of course the countdown wouldn't have taken place without all of those who participated in it, so give yourself a pat on the back!



22 out of 25, not bad. But everyone had a skewed pallet with the topic. Another fun countdown and looking forward to the next one.

Seen: 58 / 100
Never heard of: 18 / 100
1-ptrs seen: 7

My ballot:  



My Ballot List

1. Saving Private Ryan (1998)
2. Tropic Thunder (2008)
3. Wonder Woman (2017)
4. The Deer Hunter (1978)
5. Rambo: First Blood Part II (1985)
6. Three Kings (1999)
7. The Patriot (2000)
8. First Blood (1982)
9. Inglorious Basterds (2009)
10. Jarhead (2005)
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COME AND SEE
(1985, Klimov)



"And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."

The above quote comes from the Book of Revelation, in the Bible. In it, the Apostle John tells of a vision of hunger, murder, and death. Some people say the writings are historical, referring to the persecution of Christians, or maybe the fall of Rome, while others see it as prophetical, speaking of things to come. The quote is never mentioned in the film, but after seeing it, it's pretty obvious why writer/director Elem Klimov chose it as the title of this film. Set in 1943, Come and See follows Flyora (Aleksey Kravchenko), a poor, young kid from Belarus who joins his country's Resistance despite his mother's reluctance. As a result, he finds himself in the middle of the Nazi occupation of the country witnessing and suffering all sorts of atrocities.

For the first half, the film moves at a deliberate, slow pace as Flyora tries to blend in with the members of the Resistance, and befriends a young girl called Glasha (Olga Mironova) while guarding the camp. This first half is not without its tough parts, as we get to see Flyora dealing with feelings of alienation, an air strike, hunger, and the death of loved ones. However, when the second half kicks in, the film takes a turn for the truly horrible. As Flyora seeks refuge in a small village, an SS unit occupies it and starts torturing, raping, and killing people. The visceral way in which all this unfolds truly feels like hell. The whole barn thing is easily one of the toughest scenes I've had to watch on a film.

There is something numbing about the fact that, not only this really happened, but probably happened in 600+ villages in Belarus alone. What can one do about such a staggering fact? So much death, murder, and horror could lead anyone in the middle of it to think they were in hell. Ales Adamovich, the Belarusian writer in whose story the film is based, maintained an anti-war stance through all his life, and how could he not? I felt uncomfortable and troubled, just watching it from the comfort of my house. There's no way I can imagine how it felt to live this in real life.

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That's what I wrote back when I saw Come and See. I thought I had something written about Apocalypse Now, but hadn't.



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Apocalypse now was my 18. Maybe no movie makes me think of hell more. It’s really fantastic even if I don’t feel like watching it all the time.

My list:


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Diehl40's List


1. Schindler's List 11
2. Dr Strangelove 6
3. JoJo Rabbit 57
4. Pan's Labyrinth 54
5. To Be or Not to Be 41
6. Lawrence of Arabia 5
7. Casablanca 14
8. Platoon 16
9. Their Finest DNP
10. MASH 39
11. Catch 22 116
12 Das Boot 9
13. Malena DNP
14. Lincoln 110
15. Duck Soup DNP
16. Glory 38
17. The General 64
18. When the Wind Blows DNP
19. Life is Beautiful DNP
20. The Birth of a Nation DNP
21. Morituri DNP
22. The Scarlet and the Black DNP
23. The Bunker DNP
24. Churchill and the Generals DNP
25 Michael Collins 1 pointer


i did not do so well on this countdown. I Have not seen a lot of the films that placed.



Diehl40's List


1. Schindler's List 11
2. Dr Strangelove 6
3. JoJo Rabbit 57
4. Pan's Labyrinth 54
5. To Be or Not to Be 41
6. Lawrence of Arabia 5
7. Casablanca 14
8. Platoon 16
9. Their Finest DNP
10. MASH 39
11. Catch 22 116
12 Das Boot 9
13. Malena DNP
14. Lincoln 110
15. Duck Soup DNP
16. Glory 38
17. The General 64
18. When the Wind Blows DNP
19. Life is Beautiful DNP
20. The Birth of a Nation DNP
21. Morituri DNP
22. The Scarlet and the Black DNP
23. The Bunker DNP
24. Churchill and the Generals DNP
25 Michael Collins 1 pointer


i did not do so well on this countdown. I Have not seen a lot of the films that placed.
Hey, you also voted for Duck Soup so you did well in my eyes




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I never could get the hang of Thursdays.
I don't care that much about the other Kubricks but I did have Paths of Glory on my ballot at #7. Aside from anything else, it looks incredible.


I didn't like Apocalypse Now at all when I saw it, but I'll put it on my list of films that probably deserve a second chance. There are certainly some memorable moments in there.


Come and See was my #16. An anti war film with a real punch to it.



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I never could get the hang of Thursdays.
My ballot in full:


1. Downfall (2004)
2. Das Boot (1981)
3. Army of Shadows (1969)
4. Underground (1995)
5. Forbidden Games (1952)
6. Europa Europa (1990)
7. Paths of Glory (1957)
8. Kanal (1957)
9. Quo Vadis, Aida? (2021)
10. Rome, Open City (1945)
11. Little Dieter Needs to Fly (1997)
12. Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
13. Barefoot Gen (1983)
14. The Bridge (1959)
15. The Ascent (1977)
16. Come and See (1985)
17. 1917 (2019)
18. The Cranes are Flying (1957)
19. Schindler's List (1993)
20. Grave of the Fireflies (1988)
21. Mrs. Miniver (1942)
22. The Shop on Main Street (1965)
23. The Killing Fields (1984)
24. Grand Illusion (1937)
25. Journey's End (2017)


Thanks to Keyser for hosting and Yoda for making it all happen, good job guys!



My List:
1. The Bridge on the River Kwai (#3)
2. Paths of Glory (#4)
3. The Great Dictator (#22)
4. Casablanca (#14)
5. From Here to Eternity (#30)
6. Inglourious Basterds (#15)
7. No Man’s Land (DNP)
8. Apocalypse Now (#1)
9. Come and See (#2)
10. A Man Escaped (#83)
11. Stalag 17 (#35)
12. Ran (#18)
13. Letters from Iwo Jima (#60)
14. All Quiet on the Western Front (1930) (#10)
15. Lawrence of Arabia (#5)
16. The Grand Illusion (#44)
17. Father Goose (DNP)
18. Five Graves of Cairo (DNP)
19. Platoon (#16)
20. Schindler's List (#11)
21. Shame (#89)
22. The Best Years of Our Lives (#21)
23. The Cranes Are Flying (#20)
24. Downfall (#13)
25. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (#6)
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My ballot


1. Apocalypse Now (1979)
2. Threads (1984)
3. All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
4. Full Metal Jacket (1987)
5. Ran (1985)
6. The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943)
7. Napoleon (1927)

8. I Accuse (1919)
9. Grand Illusion (1937)
10. Grave of the Fireflies (1988)
11. The Human Condition I: No Greater Love (1959)
12. Schindler's List (1993)

13. Incendies (2010)
14. Lawrence of Arabia (1962)
15. Army of Shadows (1969)
16. Glory (1989)
17. The Human Condition III: A Soldier's Prayer (1961)
18. The Cranes are Flying (1957)
19. Braveheart (1995)
20. Waltz with Bashir (2007)
21. Saving Private Ryan (1998)
22. Shame (1968)
23. Tropic Thunder (2008)
24. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964)
25. The Great Escape (1963)

Incendies counted for the flashbacks to me, but didn't make it. Only one other person voted for I Accuse, which I think is a flawless movie. It's gonna be hard for 1910's movies I watch to top that. As for Threads, I was the only one to vote for it because I counted "anti-war" movies as a variant.



The last countdown we did Come and See was on it and I made a note to watch it but I still haven’t.

Apocalypse Now is an excellent film but not one I’m super passionate about. In fact I had to double check if I even had it on my list. It was 15 for me.


Thanks to Keyser and Yoda and everyone else who contributed. These are always great.



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My last two titles to reveal:

My #4. Henry V (1989)
Directed by Kenneth Branagh
Starring Kenneth Branagh, Paul Scofield, Derek Jacobi, Ian Holm, Emma Thompson and Judi Dench

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94/100


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My #12. Mandariinid [Tangerines] (2013)
Written and Directed by Zaza Urushadze
Starring Lembit Ulfsak

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92/100


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My Ballot

1. Empire of the Sun (1987) [#40]
2. Dr. Strangelove (1964) [#6]
3. The Pianist (2002) [#23]
4. Henry V (1989) [DNP]
5. Underground (1995) [#43]
6. The Deer Hunter (1978) [#25]
7. Paths of Glory (1957) [#4]
8. Ivan's Childhood (1962) [#56]
9. Platoon (1986) [#16]
10. The Great Dictator (1940) [#22]
11. The Thin Red Line (1998) [#17]
12. Tangerines (2013) [DNP]
13. Ice Cold In Alex (1958) [#119]
14. Enemy at the Gates (2001) [#88]
15. The Hill (1965) [#94]
16. Five Graves to Cairo (1943) [DNP]
17. Troy (2004) [DNP]
18. The Hurt Locker (2008) [#58]
19. The English Patient (1996) [DNP]
20. Hair (1979) [DNP]
21. Saving Private Ryan (1998) [#8]
22. Catch-22 (1970) [#116]
23. The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957) [#3]
24. Black Book (2006) [DNP]
25. The Book Thief (2013) [DNP]


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