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07-28-12
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Why not? There's really no other way to even...
Why not? There's really no other way to even begin to conceive of free will without the 'gap' in existence I'm talking about. Free will needs a free 'space' where the subject can invent and create ex...
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07-11-12
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Everyone try to keep a straight face. Look at these pairs.
One ////////////////// Multiple
Existence /////////// Being
Knowledge ////////// Truth
Intelligible ////////// Unintelligible...
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Intermission: Miscellaneous Chat
07-06-12
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Note:
So yeah. I'm trying to be as clear as possible here when I say that every object is decomposable, so, for now, I'm talking about individual objects as if they are isolated.
But really,...
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07-06-12
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At this point, I really feel like we're getting...
At this point, I really feel like we're getting somewhere at this point.
That's totes the right attitude. I think the real 'argument' starts from a different place -- looking at what mathematics...
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Intermission: Miscellaneous Chat
07-06-12
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You can interpret quantum mechanics to be deterministic if you really want to like Bohm did. The fact that you interpret something as being non-deterministic doesn't really say anything about being....
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07-06-12
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Science can't explain everything (Multiple), but it can explain every object (One). It's even created a few objects in its time. Furthermore, science is always undergoing the process of revising its...
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Intermission: Miscellaneous Chat
07-05-12
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If an object is just a multiple with a proper...
If an object is just a multiple with a proper name, then it cannot pronounce its own name without realizing that it is just a multiple.
When the object does pronounce its own name, the object is...
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07-05-12
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DUDE, now I know we're singing the same song,...
DUDE, now I know we're singing the same song, because I haven't at all justified WHY THE NAME IS A THING.
Concepts are not what we're talking about though. They really aren't. Concepts are...
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07-05-12
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Yeah exactly. It doesn't matter what the...
Yeah exactly. It doesn't matter what the supplement is. It's different for pretty much every object. It has to be, why else would they be distinct objects?
The reason why I say "price" is...
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07-05-12
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there are six legos
you first call them each by different names
then you call them all by one name
this is how objects are made
the name is supplement to existence
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07-05-12
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So check this out, it'll probably help. Let's...
So check this out, it'll probably help. Let's call the entire space of the picture "being." Thus existence is just a formatting of this Multiple into Ones (objects). Everything in a circle is One,...
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Intermission: Miscellaneous Chat
07-05-12
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What you understand or possibly could understand...
What you understand or possibly could understand about the physical world is the realm of the One. The physical world is a world composed of objects. One-ness is equivalent to object-hood.
When...
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Intermission: Miscellaneous Chat
07-05-12
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You're talking about the One. The thing you keep...
You're talking about the One. The thing you keep calling the 'physical world' is just realm of the One. I keep saying that the One is not, that only the Multiple is, and that the movement of science...
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Intermission: Miscellaneous Chat
07-05-12
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873
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As I've repeated tried to explain, materialism...
As I've repeated tried to explain, materialism states that all objects are illusions with respect to being. What needs to be accounted for is the One-effect. To say it is an illusion does nothing at...
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Intermission: Miscellaneous Chat
07-05-12
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There is no argument 'against' determinism if you...
There is no argument 'against' determinism if you accept deterministic grounds: cause and effect are exhaustive of the possibilities of being. Soft determinists already accept deterministic grounds,...
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07-05-12
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Yoda, even if you get Will.15 to renounce free will as an 'illusion,' what then generates that illusion as it exists? You will surely substitute God, but why is this necessary? Why not another, as of...
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07-03-12
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873
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what a great thread
what a great thread
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07-03-12
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873
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I'm Gay (I'm Happy)
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Intermission: Miscellaneous Chat
07-02-12
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873
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I'm not sure I get you completely, but something I hope to eventually argue for here that you brought up was the role of the goal in constituting a will. I honestly think that's a brilliant way of...
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Intermission: Miscellaneous Chat
07-02-12
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Finally, just to make sure you know that this actually does relate to my last pm: the difficulty you sense in the emergence of a free, autonomous will from the mechanical process of neurons is...
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Intermission: Miscellaneous Chat
07-02-12
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That makes no sense, because we come up with the idea of free will from introspection and that's precisely what mechanical brain science accounts can't get at.
I don't look at someone else and go...
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Intermission: Miscellaneous Chat
07-02-12
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Neuroscience works largely in the realm of chemistry. But chemistry doesn't really reduce to physics either. And physics itself is stratified from the experimental (the standard model) to the...
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Intermission: Miscellaneous Chat
07-01-12
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873
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MoFo's Religion
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Well, since things have calmed down, I'd just...
Well, since things have calmed down, I'd just like to reflect on the general course that this discussion has taken as a possible bookend.
Everyone seems to like to oppose religion to science --...
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Intermission: Miscellaneous Chat
06-30-12
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873
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MoFo's Religion
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It all comes down to this: in order to fully eradicate God, you must first eradicate objects.
By doing so you destroy all notions of enclosure -- there is no 'outside' from where God can stand....
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Intermission: Miscellaneous Chat
06-29-12
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873
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How did I miss this?
How did I miss this?
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