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@Captain Steel,

To link to a specific post, you have to link to the date/time stamp in the upper right corner of that post. Just right-click on the date/time stamp, and choose "Copy link address". (That address is the URL of that specific post.)
Thanks! It worked! So simply & so easy, yet I NEVER would have figured it out on my own!



....Did you notice Roger C. Carmel (aka Harry Mudd) as one of the villains?
I did! At first I'm like he's familiar, then I realize I've seen him in Star Trek TOS...then I remember Harry Mudd. And there's another Star Trek TOS alumni, Nancy Kovak who's a blonde in the movie, but was a brunette in A Private Little War. She was Nona the witch woman who saved Captain Kirk's live with when he was bit by the poisonous giant white gorilla.



Take at look at Stella Stevens in this clip from The Silencers (at 0:40).
I was amazed that when they show her face how much she resembles Scarlet Johansen today!

I think you misspelled 'face' wrong


Also, Daliah Lavi was my pick to play Zatanna (in my fantasy JLA movie c. 1966)...
AND I had Stella Stevens in it too as my pick for Black Canary!
https://www.movieforums.com/communit...42#post1486042
Good choices I didn't know who Daliah Lavi was until I seen The Silencers.




The Wreck of the Mary Deare (1959)

Director: Michael Anderson
Writers: Eric Ambler (screenplay), Hammond Innes (novel)
Cast: Gary Cooper, Charlton Heston, Michael Redgrave, Richard Harris
Genre: Adventure, Crime, Drama


A small time, ship salvage operator (Charlton Heston) comes across a derelict ship, on fire and adrift at sea. He braves the storm and boards the ship so to lay a claim to salvage rights. There he finds a seemingly deranged man (Gary Cooper) who is intent on sinking his own ship as he believes the former crew and captain sabotage their own ship for insurance money. CR



The Wreck of the Mary Deare is a 1959 MGM, wide screen CinemaScope color film, that was a collaboration between British and American film makers. This is the film that Alfred Hitchcock was going to make along with his screen writer Ernest Lehman. Hitch went as far as finding a ship to film, when his screen writer told him he couldn't come up with a story. So the two made North By Northwest, instead.



One might wonder how different this might have been as a Hitch film. Though I thought it was great just as it was. It works as a mystery with the strange, seemingly abandoned freighter, the Mary Deare, smoldering and adrift on the high sea. The mystery deepens when Gary Cooper a Merchant seaman with a checkered past enters the picture. Where did the crew go? Who started the fire? And who dynamited the side of the sinking ship?

It works as an action film as Charlton Heston is dangling by a rope from the side of the ship and the waves bash him nearly unconscious. The entire first part of the film is an exciting ship rescue, well done too!

And it works as a tense drama with the later court room scenes that are reminiscent of another Gary Cooper film, The Trail of Billy Mitchell.



Gary Cooper and Charlton Heston are in top acting form here. They make a good pairing too. And look out for an evil lout played by Richard Harris....Ohhhh he's so evil!

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You can't make a rainbow without a little rain.
Thanks! It worked! So simply & so easy, yet I NEVER would have figured it out on my own!
You're welcome. It's easy to do, but hard to figure out until someone tells you where to find the link.


I did! At first I'm like he's familiar, then I realize I've seen him in Star Trek TOS...then I remember Harry Mudd. And there's another Star Trek TOS alumni, Nancy Kovak who's a blonde in the movie, but was a brunette in A Private Little War. She was Nona the witch woman who saved Captain Kirk's live with when he was bit by the poisonous giant white gorilla.

Good catch on Nancy Kovack.

That's not one of the better "Star Trek" episodes, so she doesn't stand out in other parts as much as Roger C. Carmel does.

BTW, I went to Dave & Busters yesterday, and they have a Star Trek game that pays off in Star Trek collector cards when you win. (They're similar to baseball cards, but with pictures of Star Trek characters.) They just changed to a new set of cards, and it's Star Trek villains, including Khan, Q, Trelane, the Talosian (from "The Cage"), the Borg Queen, Klingon Commander Kor, Gul Dukat (from DS9), and the Gorn. I was kind of upset that they didn't include a Harry Mudd card in the set, but I guess he's not really a villain. Hopefully he'll be included in a future set.



The Silencers (1966)
Director: Phil Karlson
Writers: Donald Hamilton (novels), Oscar Saul (screenplay)
Cast: Dean Martin, Stella Stevens, Daliah Lavi
Genre: Spy Adventure Comedy


'Retired agent Matt Helm is re-activated in order to stop an evil organization from exploding an atom bomb over the USA and starting WWIII.'
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I'd read a whole bunch of Donald Hamilton's Matt Helm series books, mostly from the '60s and '70s, and loved them. He was considered the best American writer of spy crime fiction during his lifetime.

When I first saw that Dean Martin was starring in a Matt Helm movie, I was delighted, and eager to see it. Unfortunately the movies have almost nothing to do with the novels, except for perhaps some very basic outlines. As you say they were tailored to Martin's persona.

Anyway I thought the movies were idiotic, obviously meant to cash in on the James Bond craze. But come to think of it, it might be worth a re-visit just to experience the films on their own level. They might be pretty good campy comedies...

~Doc







I'd read a whole bunch of Donald Hamilton's Matt Helm series books, mostly from the '60s and '70s, and loved them. He was considered the best American writer of spy crime fiction during his lifetime.

When I first saw that Dean Martin was starring in a Matt Helm movie, I was delighted, and eager to see it. Unfortunately the movies have almost nothing to do with the novels, except for perhaps some very basic outlines....
~Doc
I don't doubt that. That's why I always say don't read books! They'll ruin the movie later Actually all joking aside, rarely do people read the book first then see the movie and love the movie as much as they did the book.



I'd read a whole bunch of Donald Hamilton's Matt Helm series books, mostly from the '60s and '70s, and loved them. He was considered the best American writer of spy crime fiction during his lifetime.

When I first saw that Dean Martin was starring in a Matt Helm movie, I was delighted, and eager to see it. Unfortunately the movies have almost nothing to do with the novels, except for perhaps some very basic outlines. As you say they were tailored to Martin's persona.

Anyway I thought the movies were idiotic, obviously meant to cash in on the James Bond craze. But come to think of it, it might be worth a re-visit just to experience the films on their own level. They might be pretty good campy comedies...

~Doc

For me, Matt Helm were "4:30 Movies" and Deano was Matt Helm.
I never even knew he was a "real" fictional agent with his own series of novels before the Dean Martin movies until long after I saw the movies.

So, were the novels also cashing in on the James Bond craze? (Guess I'll have to look up when they came out and compare them to Ian Fleming's creation.)

The movies are idiotic, but they are funny and you wouldn't find better eye candy in a Bond flick, they have great music and they're just so sixties!




Ten Thousand Bedrooms (1957)

Director: Richard Thorpe
Writers: László Vadnay, Art Cohn
Cast: Dean Martin, Anna Maria Alberghetti, Eva Bartok, Walter Slezak
Genre: Comedy, Musical, Romance

Dean Martin is in Rome and he's a millionaire playboy with his own plane and a string of hotels. Hence the title 10,000 Bedrooms.

Deano is surrounded by four beautiful Italian woman, who are sisters. One of them, Maria (Eva Bartok) has eyes for the millionaire bachelor. Whilst Deano ends up being smitten by the youngest sister Nina (Anna Maria Alberghetti) who's only 18....whooo! be careful Deano. The hitch is, (pun intended) for Deano to marry Nina he has to first get her three older sisters married off. The father played by Walter Slezak is adamant about keeping with tradition. So that's how the story goes...



Ten Thousand Bedrooms
was Dean Martin's first movie after breaking off from the movie making team of him and Jerry Lewis. Thank goodness too, as I never liked those Martin and Lewis films.

This was a big budget film shot in color and CinemaScope. It was shot partially on location and offered something to moviegoers that TV couldn't...a chance to see full color, scenes of exotic locales. I love how the movie opens with Martin flying his airplane into Rome...We see gorgeous shots of St Peters, the Coliseum, the Forum and much more. Later we see many neat shots of Rome and Italy.

This is billed as a musical-comedy-romance, but outside of Deano singing a couple short songs to the girls as he dances with them, there's not much music. But there is romancing and light comedy and it makes for a pleasant way to spend some time.


Eva Bartok left looking at her star struck younger sister played by
Anna Maria Alberghetti.

Will love prevail? And if so with who? You'll just have to watch to find out!


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For me, Matt Helm were "4:30 Movies" and Deano was Matt Helm.
I never even knew he was a "real" fictional agent with his own series of novels before the Dean Martin movies until long after I saw the movies.

So, were the novels also cashing in on the James Bond craze? (Guess I'll have to look up when they came out and compare them to Ian Fleming's creation.)
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The Donald Hamilton novels were serious spy crime fiction, more like LeCarre or Ludlum. I've never read a Flemming Bond novel, but the Matt Helm novels were nothing like either the Bond or Helm movies. I suspect that Cubby & Co. probably camped up the Bond movie scripts in comparison to the novels as well.

But I really like all the Bond movies, and I'd might enjoy the Helm films in a different way than from the novels. I'll have to go back and revisit one.

~Doc



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But I really like all the Bond movies, and I'd might enjoy the Helm films in a different way than from the novels. I'll have to go back and revisit one.

~Doc
Doc, do you like the newer Bond films? I use to love Bond films myself, but lost interest some time ago. I still Sean Connery and Roger Moore as Bond but haven't even seen the last Bond films made.



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Ten Thousand Bedrooms (1957)

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Cast: Dean Martin, Anna Maria Alberghetti, Eva Bartok, Walter Slezak
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This sounds like fun, kind of like Taming of the Shrew....will be adding this one to my watchlist.



This sounds like fun, kind of like Taming of the Shrew....will be adding this one to my watchlist.
It's not nearly as good as Taming of the Shrew. It's more light and entertaining. A big plus is the actual scenery of Rome.



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The Silencers
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I've seen bits and pieces of this movie but never from beginning to the end, I'm going to have to change that...I remember LOVING Cyd Charisse's dance number during the opening credits and Stella Stevens is always worth watching...adding to watchlist.




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Blast from the Past (1999)

Director: Hugh Wilson
Writers: Bill Kelly (story), Bill Kelly (screenplay)
Cast: Brendan Fraser, Alicia Silverstone, Christopher Walken, Sissy Spacek, Dave Foley
Genre: Comedy, Drama, Romance


I liked this movie a lot...I always considered it the third installment of Brendan Fraser's "Fish Out of Water" trilogy, after Encino Man and George of the Jungle. Christopher Walken and Sissy Spacek are wonderful as his parents.



Doc, do you like the newer Bond films? I use to love Bond films myself, but lost interest some time ago. I still Sean Connery and Roger Moore as Bond but haven't even seen the last Bond films made.
Yes, I like the newer ones too. Of course IMO, Sean Connery IS James Bond; the best by far. However Daniel Craig is a strong second place.

His first Bond --Casino Royale-- opened with the most exciting foot chase scene in memory. Craig brought a new athletic and brooding quality to Bond. And of course there's no campiness at all in the films in which he has starred.

I think you'd like some of them, but you really must see the opening sequence in Craig's Casino Royale.

I always look forward to the new one-- whomever it is.

~Doc



Yes, I like the newer ones too. Of course IMO, Sean Connery IS James Bond; the best by far. However Daniel Craig is a strong second place.

His first Bond --Casino Royale-- opened with the most exciting foot chase scene in memory. Craig brought a new athletic and brooding quality to Bond. And of course there's no campiness at all in the films in which he has starred.

I think you'd like some of them, but you really must see the opening sequence in Craig's Casino Royale.

I always look forward to the new one-- whomever it is.

~Doc
Ironically the last new installment in the Bond films that I seen was Casino Royale. It was also one of the last films I seen in a theater, if not they last one. I really liked, I liked the part about him being poisoned an his solution to that. Eva Green was one of the best Bond girls around.

Actually I prefer campy-ness in my spy films. That's why I like the Roger Moore films. And of course a big fan of the original Sean Connery.




Come and Get It (1936)

Directors: Howard Hawks, William Wyler
Writers: Edna Ferber (novel), Jane Murfin (screenplay)
Stars: Edward Arnold, Joel McCrea, Frances Farmer, Walter Brennan
Genre: Drama


A greedy lumber-baron (Edward Arnold) is cutting down forest at an alarming rate and without replanting. He only cares about one thing power and money...OK that's two things. He falls in love with a good heartened saloon girl (Frances Farmer) but ditches her after their engagement, so that he can marry the daughter of the richest lumber man in the state. This way he becomes his partner. The problem is he loves the saloon girl and not his new wife. Years go by and he has a upstart son (Joel McCrea) who wants better longing practices.

Meanwhile dad falls in love with the very young daughter of the saloon girl who married his best friend (Walter Brennan) Wow! talk about a soap opera, but then again this is based on the book by the queen of epic-sprawling novels Edna Ferber. Who also wrote the novel Giant.

This movie had a troubled production. Samuel Goldwyn agreed to shoot the movie as written in Edna Ferber's 1935 novel. That novel harshly criticized modern logging practices that were denuding the land without reseeding the forest. The original director was Howard Hawks, who during Samuel Goldwyn's time in the hospital turned the movie into a love triangle. Goldwyn was so pissed that he fired Hawks and replaced him with William Wyler and they re-shot a third of the movie.

As it turned out the film got a face lift with lots of stock footage of logging operations that have to be seen to believe! Especially the giant old growth trees that slide down a water slide on a huge mountain side and then shoot into the water below. It's pretty cool and the logging stuff was my favorite part.



Original Goldwyn wanted Spencer Tracy to be loaned to them but MGM would have none of that. So instead we get an odd leading man in Edward Arnold, who mostly played character actors. It's kind of hard to see him in a romantic lead with the lovely Frances Farmer. I think a young Spencer Tracy would have been much better in the role.



I mainly watched this to see Frances Farmer and she's prominently featured as both Lotta the saloon girl and Lotta's daughter also named Lotta....odd I know!

This is a public domain movie and available on Youtube and it's a good copy too!



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A Night to Remember (1958)

Director: Roy Baker
Writers: Walter Lord (book), Eric Ambler (screenplay)
Cast: Kenneth More, Ronald Allen, Robert Ayres
Genre: Biography, Drama, History


At 2:20 a.m. on April 15, 1912, the British ocean liner R.M.S. Titanic, billed as an unsinkable ship, sinks on it's maiden voyage in the frigid waters of the North Atlantic Ocean....after striking an iceberg a few hours earlier the ship began taking on water and was doomed. The Titanic carried 2,200 passengers and crew, with only enough life boats to save less than half that number. CR

There's been well over a dozen films made about the Titanic...A Night To Remember is considered by many to be the best of the bunch. The story is based on actual transcripts from the hearings in 1912 about the sinking of the Titanic, as told by those who had survived. The film tells the story from the viewpoint of one of the souls who did survive, 2nd Officer Charles Herbert Lightoller aptly played by Kenneth More. Lightoller is our guide into a movie that plays out like a you-are-there documentary, that then gives us a deep insight into the tragedy.



After watching this and Titanic (1953) what struck me is how real A Night To Remember felt. It captured the initial confusion that resulted from most passengers on the ship not even knowing that they were sinking. And it brought home the sheer panic caused by utter desperation in the loading of the lifeboat scenes.

Another powerful aspect of the film was how by incorporating stock footage of other similar size ships, it seemed as if we saw Titanic being launched and sailing out of the harbor to it's destiny.

The interior sets are fantastic! I've seen many documentaries on the Titanic and the decor in the movie looked very much like the real thing.



I loved the boiler room scenes. You could almost feel the heat from the coal fires and the deadly cold from the sea water pouring in...the drama was very human.



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