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I guess it needs to be stated that that’s merely a make-up test and isn’t likely to be the final Joker look. Remember, the character started out trying to make it in show business.



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I can never get over the period cars in these scenes. I would be enthralled by the logistics of the entire process from start to finish.


I think Phoenix is too much of a talent for this to be anything less than decent and will probably be a lot more.



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I still can't believe Joaquin Phoenix is that same kid from Parenthood (1989)!
And in this clip he's carrying that brown paper bag around again - the one with his porno movies in it!



I guess it needs to be stated that that’s merely a make-up test and isn’t likely to be the final Joker look. Remember, the character started out trying to make it in show business.
It's a camera test w/ sound but obviously a teaser, based on recent examples of sneak peaks I imagine this is the joker we will get.. I like the simplicity of it, more like traditional clown make up but applied roughly.. in keeping with a grittier real life joker story but maybe you are right and his look will evolve.



There's a shuffling in his walk that reminds me of a character in something else – I wish I could place it.
It could be John Malkovich in In the Line of Fire.



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There's a shuffling in his walk that reminds me of a character in something else – I wish I could place it.
It could be John Malkovich in In the Line of Fire.
That's been bugging me too, to figure it out.

Maybe Jim Carry in one of the Man on the Moon tantrums?



That's been bugging me too, to figure it out.

Maybe Jim Carry in one of the Man on the Moon tantrums?
I haven't seen that but it's sort of happy-go-lucky, more like a kid.



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That's been bugging me too, to figure it out.

Maybe Jim Carry in one of the Man on the Moon tantrums?
I haven't seen that but it's sort of happy-go-lucky, more like a kid.

With his stiff shoulders and flailing wrists and lower arms? And almost stomping like he's in a puddle of water? That really caught my attention visually and I can't tell if another actor has done that or if he did in another movie. Its freaking me out but I've seen it before! Maybe from The Master?



I've just seen the latest images from filming, with Phoenix in the make-up and costume, and it's thrilling. One thing that occurs to me is that he has that elongated face shape we usually associate with the Joker, which none of the others had apart from Cesar Romero in the TV series.



New report regarding The Joker.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/joaquin-ph...105216491.html

I just realized that the origin film is being produced by Martin Scorsese and co-stars Robert Deniro. It wasn't until now that this project has peaked my interest.

There's also new footage captured by TMZ showing Joaquin Phoenix in full character (outfit, make-up and all) filming a scene in a New York City subway.

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I got a bad feeling about this movie. Lot of things are red flags for me.
- Todd Philips is not a great director. He knows to make a certain kind of movies. Dark Comedies. None of his movies prove that he can make a compelling movie about a demented character.
- Joaquin Pheonix is a great actor but his box office track record is abysmal. I don't think there is enough anticipation among general movie going community.
- The movie is made for a relatively small budget for a comic book movie. So the production value of the movie will not be mind blowing.
- This movie is not deadpool. As demented as his character is, nothing about deadpool movie is sad and depressing. Audience are never made to feel sad. But this movie is going to be sad and depressing.
BTW Scorsese is not producer. His named was attached to produce but thats gone.
All this make me think this movie is not gonna be received greatly.



The thing with Joker, is that he's a mystery and with the entire history of the character being put to screen, it takes away any strengths the character had.


Ledger's Joker was a mystery, which made him powerful. Leto's Joker has a tiny bit of backstory but his history is kept secret, which makes him a little mysterious as well.


I've also just read, this isn't part of the Nolanverse as I thought it was... which basically means now that this movie is a non-movie.
They could have just made a crime movie about a standup comedian turned psycho, but instead they've attached the Joker's name to it to sell tickets.


Not impressed by this at all atm.


DC have fallen hard recently.
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^Like the Joker himself said at one point, he likes to think of the past as multiple choice.

I got a bad feeling about this movie. Lot of things are red flags for me.
- Todd Philips is not a great director. He knows to make a certain kind of movies. Dark Comedies. None of his movies prove that he can make a compelling movie about a demented character.
- Joaquin Pheonix is a great actor but his box office track record is abysmal. I don't think there is enough anticipation among general movie going community.
- The movie is made for a relatively small budget for a comic book movie. So the production value of the movie will not be mind blowing.
- This movie is not deadpool. As demented as his character is, nothing about deadpool movie is sad and depressing. Audience are never made to feel sad. But this movie is going to be sad and depressing.
BTW Scorsese is not producer. His named was attached to produce but thats gone.
All this make me think this movie is not gonna be received greatly.
- Fair point, I don't think I've ever genuinely liked a movie the guy's made, but I think that's more to do with the subject matter than anything else and him trying something different here could work. You've defended David O. Russell's work so you know that a director can shift gears on their career like this.
- Like Rodent said, he's not the main draw here so who cares?
- That could be for the best, though - one of the most boring things about the superhero genre is that the high production budgets mean that the films get more risk-averse and end up being blandly generic as a result (e.g. however many of them climax with a giant blue beam into the sky) so something like this could always force the talent involved to focus up and deliver something a bit more distinctive.
- I don't know, have you seen either Deadpool movie? There's jokes everywhere and all but they don't exactly shy away from depicting how much of a screwed-up and tragic existence he has either (especially in the second one). Whether they're successful is another matter, but it's not like they don't make the effort.

I'll agree that so much of this sounds absurd on its face, but I can't say I'm not intrigued by the whole situation (especially the idea that this is going to turn out like The King of Comedy, though that's a very high standard to set).
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The thing with Joker, is that he's a mystery and with the entire history of the character being put to screen, it takes away any strengths the character had.


Ledger's Joker was a mystery, which made him powerful. Leto's Joker has a tiny bit of backstory but his history is kept secret, which makes him a little mysterious as well.
Don't you love Batman 1989 were we see who he is before and how he becomes Joker?



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It also appears to be a period piece set in the '70s/'80s so it's quite obviously setting itself apart from previous iterations.



Man these unedited clips make it seem like some elaborate joke, like a sequel to I'm Still Here or something haha.

Pretty excited anyway, Joaquin is the best working actor IMO so even if the films bad/mediocre i expect to get something out of his performance.



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It would be perfect for a standalone Joker movie to actually be some kind of elaborate practical joke on the Joker's most annoying fans, like it ends up being a tribute to old-school Hollywood musicals or something.



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^Like the Joker himself said at one point, he likes to think of the past as multiple choice.



- Fair point, I don't think I've ever genuinely liked a movie the guy's made, but I think that's more to do with the subject matter than anything else and him trying something different here could work. You've defended David O. Russell's work so you know that a director can shift gears on their career like this.
- Like Rodent said, he's not the main draw here so who cares?
- That could be for the best, though - one of the most boring things about the superhero genre is that the high production budgets mean that the films get more risk-averse and end up being blandly generic as a result (e.g. however many of them climax with a giant blue beam into the sky) so something like this could always force the talent involved to focus up and deliver something a bit more distinctive.
- I don't know, have you seen either Deadpool movie? There's jokes everywhere and all but they don't exactly shy away from depicting how much of a screwed-up and tragic existence he has either (especially in the second one). Whether they're successful is another matter, but it's not like they don't make the effort.

I'll agree that so much of this sounds absurd on its face, but I can't say I'm not intrigued by the whole situation (especially the idea that this is going to turn out like The King of Comedy, though that's a very high standard to set).
- Comparing Todd Philips to David o Russell is not ideal. David O Russell had brilliance in his early career. That did not go anywhere. Almost all his movies have similar tone as fighter/hustle/playbook. He was never called a comedic director. All his movies are part drama. Todd Philips movies are more in comedic end. Even war dogs felt like a cheap knock off to wolf of wall street. How many of those american dream based movies are there ?
- A crime fighting guy whose body regenerates itself and still get to have and sleep with a girlfriend despite looking like he does he more upbeat than a "cautionary tale" of joker as it read in official logline. People go into deadpool for laughing. Joker not so much



Meh, not really excited about this at all. Although the choice of music composer is interesting.
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