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Enter The Void
The trailer is even trippier..
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There's a lesbian scene in a strip club, I'm sold.
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It also mentions the Tibetan Book of the Dead, so I'm expecting it to be a hell lot trippier.
& what's a trip without loads of sex & nudity...
With Gasper Noe directing it, I have some decent expectations.. But I haven't seen any of his films besides Irreversible.. anyone familiar with his other works?
& what's a trip without loads of sex & nudity...
With Gasper Noe directing it, I have some decent expectations.. But I haven't seen any of his films besides Irreversible.. anyone familiar with his other works?
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...anyone familiar with his other works?
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This looks extremely similar to Irreversible stylistically. I don't know, it seems like it's retreading already covered ground. Movies that graphically depict people doing hard drugs for no reason other than to show people doing hard drugs get kind of old fast to me. Movies that take place in strip clubs also get boring after a while if the setting is just an excuse to have nude women dancing in the background of every shot. Movies with extreme violence also get boring for the most part if it is portrayed in a manner in which I think the violence is being shown for violence's sake. And Noe's not going to top the fire extinguisher scene in Irreversible.
There were a lot of cool visuals though, from what I could tell in the trailer--even though it was edited so much I could hardly see anything. It also seems to be getting good reviews, so I'll reserve judgment until I see it... but not in theaters.
There were a lot of cool visuals though, from what I could tell in the trailer--even though it was edited so much I could hardly see anything. It also seems to be getting good reviews, so I'll reserve judgment until I see it... but not in theaters.
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I don't know if this movie will depict hard drug use like Requiem does and how it effects your body, but from the trailer it sure looks like there are at least a few scenes that bring that theme into the picture.
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it seems like it's retreading already covered ground. Movies that graphically depict people doing hard drugs for no reason other than to show people doing hard drugs get kind of old fast to me. Movies that take place in strip clubs also get boring after a while if the setting is just an excuse to have nude women dancing in the background of every shot. Movies with extreme violence also get boring for the most part if it is portrayed in a manner in which I think the violence is being shown for violence's sake..
Rarely is the Tibetan Book of Dead ever used in such films..
& I think this movie seems like it as much about death than drugs..
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I really don't know how you got that from the trailer... I have seen a lot of drug related films... & I have never seen anything like that before..
Rarely is the Tibetan Book of Dead ever used in such films..
& I think this movie seems like it as much about death than drugs..
Rarely is the Tibetan Book of Dead ever used in such films..
& I think this movie seems like it as much about death than drugs..
I'm not really saying specifically that Noe will treat this subject matter in the way these other movies have, I'm just saying from the vague, shocking imagery the trailer gives us, this is my impression. There is not a single shot in the trailer of a scene that I could not see in a combination of movies like Bad Lieutenant, Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans, Party Monster, Killing Zoe, Requiem for a Dream, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, and so many others I could keep listing.
All I'm saying is, I have also seen a lot of drug movies--in fact I can't think of one I haven't seen, as I used to enjoy these particular types of movies--and I have seen things like this before. If nowhere else, than in Irreversible, which has literally the exact same aesthetic qualities as this film.
I'm not saying any of this is bad. It's gotten great early reviews from what I can see, so I'm not judging the movie. I'm just saying this is subject matter that has been covered before, using techniques and tricks that have been used before. And just taking elements from the Tibetan Book of the Dead and making it somehow fit into all of this doesn't really make it completely unique.
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God help anyone with photosensitive epilepsy, thats all I have to say.
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I don't know if this movie will depict hard drug use like Requiem does and how it effects your body, but from the trailer it sure looks like there are at least a few scenes that bring that theme into the picture.
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Enter the Void is 5 minutes of trippy colours from 2001, then 3 hours of a camera floating above people while they do nothing.
Skip it.
Skip it.
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Enter the Void is 5 minutes of trippy colours from 2001, then 3 hours of a camera floating above people while they do nothing.
Don't skip it. Try it. But keep an open mind and don't laugh at Noe just for pulling out all the stops.