Ohhh r3...I think your asking for a whole load of trouble here, [and i'm probably about to drop myself in it too], but....
Originally Posted by r3port3r66
I have seen that the woman manager at my job can run her shift flawlessly. However the male managers are often confronted by problems and unforeseen mistakes.
I've no doubt about this [EDIT: as a general/global rule/phenomenon]. If we accept the idea that women are better communicators [and hence viewers and predictors of human reactions and current states etc], and men's skills lie more in the physical arena as a rule (which i do believe), then our societies are favouring women more and more. I.e. lots of the physical/competitive aspects of society have been reduced in many spheres (doesn't mean that many others are still dominated by intimidation, but heigh ho - that's life/power) - therefore more and more interaction and success is based on asssessment and action. Women are superior in these areas it seems. Whether it's coz of the historical and biological imperatives of: keeping the family together and organising the related logistics; or influencing through word and deed but not violence; or being undervalued yet relied upon etc etc i've no idea.
Originally Posted by r3
I've even noticed some of that here at Mofo. Take any post by our wise and wonderful Caitlyn. Sometimes she will put her input into a thread that is well written intelligent and wise. If a male member responds to said post he will sometimes respond with a "nice post", or any number of smilies. But if a man posts something on the same subject, a verbal arm wrestle ensues for three pages.
Not quite sure what you're saying here, other than that men like to go head-to-head with other men (it's such a fascinatingly amusing phenomenon, especially when you find yourself doing it
) - or possibly that women judge the tone and suitability of what they say far better? In the first example, is this women's success or men's failing? In the second it's just coz our Caitlyn is wonderfully wise and informed
Originally Posted by r3
In another thread about gays, The Bible, without any consideration that the Good Book might be a little out-dated, was brought up. In the Bible, women are looked upon as second to men. In many cultures (US included---female president anyone?) women are considered second-class or infurior to men. The point is, women, I think, are smarter than men. They are rational, percieving and concise. Anything they do usually turns out as they have planned.
Oh, don't even start me on the bible. I'm still bouncing heads with Yods (and i think we'll be imitating an executive toy for some time to come
- but this is all in the name of self-discovery o'course
)
In Britain i think we have a slight smug feeling that we're a bit "ahead" of some other Europeans in terms of equality. Southern Spain for example has very very rigid sex roles (which lead to the women acting like spoilt princesses and a lot of homosexuality hidden behind macho posturing amongst the men. Very amusing, unless your trying to pull
). The British way seems to be getting progressively more "equal". [tho i was brought up with the idea of equality reinforced with such frequency that for a long time i even ignored our differences on some "logical" level, which is just daft. We are different. Discovering how, on a generic level, would be a very useful thing to investigate]
Um, I wouldn't accuse all women of being "rational" to be completely honest (tho the other two do bear up). I don't mean by this that men are more rational, just that i've met lots of highly "irrational" women in my time - in the sense of consistancy in un-emotional contexts. This is a very stereotypical bit of phraseology, but i apply it to men too. Where women have a clear advantage is that they don't go into fight-or-flight so readily and resolve problems far better in the practical sphere. I
am doubting "abstract" and "logical"
superiority amongst women. I think it might even be the case that between men and women we share various different skills in these areas [but again, these can cross sex-boundaries - no doubts]
Please note the absolute insanity of Margaret Thatcher (she wanted to re-start the british empire! Now THAT wasn't practical! - and she screwed up loads of aspects of our society - that wasn't very sensitive or wise in my view. You could blame male advisors, but most commentary on her thinking just suggests she was a very driven, prudent/penny-pinching, overly-patriotic nut-bar]
I'm a woman-worshipper - unashamedly so. But i'd still say there appear to be plenty of ebb-and-flow where men have a valid input into social acts and decisions, despite being theorhetically lesser in these spheres.
But is it possible that some of men's skills are more esoteric than we realise?
So, let me put a few teasers before you:
-Of your friends, who are more likely to be funny [in a witty sense possibly?]: the men or the women? Or does it pan out evenly?
-Do you agree with the neurological theories that suggest that male superiority at catching/throwing things etc has actually translated over the millenia into an increased mathmatical ability i.e. the internal ability to judge quickly changing distances/angles etc. Some claim it has. [others even push it as far as improved logical/abstract constructs i believe - tho i find this dubious, or at the very least unsubstantiated]
-Virginia Woolf's exposition "A room of one's own" puts forward the idea, that even as the first great female novels were emerging, they were doing so in the face of adversity (George Eliot - my favourite author of that period! So scientific yet so sensitive and holistic and open-minded. What a human!) Certain biological nescessities/responsibilities and old-fashioned views can make this true to this day. Is it far too soon to judge who has the better/worse [or the same] faculties in all the spheres of human endeavour? Are we seeing a fair comparison at the moment [bear in mind that many men can't get thru the system to arrive in top jobs either - a lot of that is down to old-boy masonic-networking etc etc - still quite a boy-orientated pass-time
]
-Do men have anything valid to teach women? [as we certainly benefit from learning from/observing their social skills]
-Does the fact that girls are doing better in school as a whole reflect:
(a) an increased desire to seize the opportunities of a more accepting world? [and hence they have more drive than the boys]
(b) a simple finding-of-confidence after centuries of belittlement and an expression of intellectual superiority?
(c) a mindset greater suited to educational practices now in use? (i.e. more "mind"/paper-work than play/physical-copying/physical-practice? [plus facilitated by the above mentioned increased confidence/freedom of expression etc]
Okay - bring on the slating for my stereotypes
but B4 i go - i'd like to recommend a book called "(EDIT: SKINNY legs and all". i'm fairly sure it didn't do well (it has a bake-bean tin as a main character - but if you can get passed that, and lots of related silliness, this is a wonderful exploration of pre-millenial fear and a most intriguing theory of what this millenium might bring. it's related, trust me.) Can't remember the author i'm afraid. The book was pink (but i think that was the publisher's choice
)
EDIT: Oops: Summary and clarification:
-I don't think either sex is "smarter" as a whole (but we have varied skills that we should learn to apply better together - as Piddz says sex affects a lot about how we interact as it is - blood rather than brain
)