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The response of yours doesn't even apply to anything else

What's weird is is, I've never even talked to you, which also applies to Yoda in that I haven't really been interested in what he wants to talk about either, so it goes back to the original point


I'll do the MoFo baseball thing next year and haul Yoda down

Donald can be president too


Willing to beat you in baseball too, more fun than your stalking my posts for 8 months

In the words of Tim Allen, I don't like anyone telling me what to do,



Period.




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The response of yours doesn't even apply to anything else

What's weird is is, I've never even talked to you, which also applies to Yoda in that I haven't really been interested in what he wants to talk about either, so it goes back to the original point
then why are you here
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In the words of Tim Allen, I don't like anyone telling me what to do
The last time you said something like this, I asked if you would lie just because someone told you to be honest. You've floated a lot of paranoia about "control," yet here you are, letting yourself be controlled inversely by refusing to do anything anyone says, even if it's the right thing.

Here's a novel idea: have your own principles, speak up for them, and follow them. Don't do something just because someone told you to...and don't not do something because they told you to, either.

Otherwise, you're not taking a stand. You're just throwing a tantrum.



Florida voters sue for recount

TALLAHASSEE — Three central Florida voters are mounting an unlikely bid to overturn the presidential election result in the Sunshine State.

In a lawsuit filed Monday in Leon Circuit Court, they assert that Hillary Clinton, not Donald Trump, actually won Florida. The plaintiffs, who live in Osceola and Volusia counties, say the state’s official election results were off because of hacking, malfunctioning voting machines and other problems.

They're asking for a hand recount of every paper ballot in Florida, at the expense of defendants including Trump, Gov. Rick Scott and the 29 Republican presidential electors from Florida.

But even lawyers for the plaintiffs acknowledge time isn’t on their side. Clint Curtis, an Orlando attorney representing the plaintiffs, said the defendants may not respond by the time the Electoral College meets on Dec. 19.

"They can ignore it entirely,” he said.

Curtis said he hopes Trump, who has blasted recount efforts elsewhere, will get behind one in Florida. Officially, Trump got more than 4.6 million votes in Florida, beating Clinton by more than 112,000 votes.

“He’s mentioned he wants to fix the rigged system,” he said. “This will give the opportunity to do that. If it were a normal politician, I’d say our chances are very slim. But it’s not a normal politician — it’s Donald Trump.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...JKa?li=BBnb7Kz
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So I noticed in the quotes someone is using big lettering in their posts now. They probably got the idea from the books they read.





Amazon’s new grocery store highlights a huge hole in Donald Trump’s promise on jobs

Amazon debuted its new Go store on Monday, and the design of the store hints at a future of shopping with no human interaction.

The grocery store will allow shoppers to check in to the store with their phones, grab what they need, and simply walk out of the store.

The shopper's Amazon account will be billed for the cost of the goods. Customers won't have to stand in line, and critically, they won't have to interact with a cashier.

That's great news for Amazon customers who detest human interaction or waiting, but it's bad news for cashiers, a critical part of the US workforce, and it highlights the challenge Donald Trump will face as he bids to boost the US labor market.

During his campaign, Trump pledged to "bring back the jobs" by cutting taxes and regulation and pulling out of trade deals. Free trade agreements such as the North American Free Trade Agreement or Trans Pacific Partnership allowed companies to shift jobs overseas to places like Mexico and China and decimate the middle class, he said.

The argument struck a chord, particularly with white working class voters, propelling Trump to the White House.

More recently, he has threatened to clamp down on companies moving jobs overseas .

Despite the convincing nature of Trump's anti-offshoring argument, Amazon Go proves the biggest danger isn't jobs going overseas, but rather the march of technological progress.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 856,850 Americans were employed as grocery store cashiers in May 2015, the most recent data available. Theoretically, Amazon Go's model grocery store puts a chunk of these jobs at risk. Include all cashiers (there doesn't seem to be a reason the Amazon Go model couldn't work for say, clothes or books) and that's roughly 3.5 million people in roles that are at risk of being automated away.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compa...cIF?li=BBnb7Kz



All this is really just ganging up on someone who likes Trump

It's what you did through out the election year, and now you're doubling down and making it nastier since he won

You have to stalk Trump supporters so you can control the narrative and create the MoFo liberal safe space

LOL!



Hang on, let me run that post through the ol' Nostromo Translator:

All this is really just ganging up on someone who likes Trump
"Ganging up" = asking questions.

It's what you did through out the election year, and now you're doubling down and making it nastier since he won
"Nastier" = didn't stop having principles just because the election ended.

You have to stalk Trump supporters
"Stalk" = post about news in relevant topic.

so you can control the narrative
"Control the narrative" = ask you what you actually believe.

and create the MoFo liberal
"Liberal" = anyone who criticizes Trump.

"Safe space" = place where Trump supporters are continually invited to make arguments.

"LOL!" = I have no idea what to say, so I'm going to feign indifference.



No one is forcing you to post in this thread or about Trump, Nostromo.
I dunno, man. I'm pretty sure that's how stalking works: the people stalking you keep drawing you into talking to them with their magical stalking powers.

If you decide to then they can respond to whatever you say. It's how forums work.
STOP TRYING TO CONTROL THE NARRATIVE.



@ stalked

Being we are posting opinions, facts, and explanations.....he is the one that pops in then runs away talking personal crap about people, obviously following along but not involved..........like a stalker. Nostro is the one stalking us! Im calling Chris Hansen. jk



And that's not even the craziest thing. Dude just accused people of wanting a "safe space" when they've been begging him to argue with them for a year straight. That's a whole new level of cognitive dissonance.

None of this seems to have any connection to reality any more. It's just excuse vomit.



It's the thought police




Trying to make people you don't know send you their life principles on a movie message board. It's not PoliticalPrinciples Forums. It isn't PoPo, it's MoFo, a goofy movie message board. A message board won't fall apart when its administrator knows what the message board is about- even SexyCelebrity a 15 year member wants to leave the place now

What Yoda actually wants to do is find thoughts to slice apart like he does in his posts and replace them with his own. The thought police, it's about controlling the narrative. Thought-police culture



That's a load of crap. Making an argument isn't policing thought, and neither is expecting people to have reasons for what they say.

And that's what we're talking about: what you decided to say. Nobody started randomly interrogating you. Nobody dragged you away from all the "goofy movie message board" stuff and into a clearly marked political thread. And nobody made you toss a bunch of assertions and arguments into that thread, month after month. You chose that, and it was only after those pesky follow-up questions and mounting evidence that you resorted to this revisionism about being forced to participate.

You wrote a bunch of checks you can't cash, and now you're saying people stole from you.



"Policing thought"? He's the one that used to Post Comment me with blurbs of nonfactoid stuff, and when I called him on it - no response, or something disconnected that avoided the point. Im sure I wasnt the only one that got those blurbs, not everyone responds the same. He doesnt want to leave, he wants to stir it up. He doesnt have a point other then to stir it up with lies (because if hes truly college educated he does know better), gain sympathy with them, and now trying to tarnish Yoda, personal like.

I hope people can see thru him, Yoda/Chris does not deserve that. Me and Yoda differ on our politics (other than the obvious ones like Trump), and hes "grilled" me with questions on Sanders before. My reasons for supporting Bernie was he was simply more trustworthy and competent than Trump or Clinton, no socialist agenda as a motivating factor. I responded directly, to his direct questions. Communication.

Hell if he was trying to "Thought Police" and bully those differing from his views, he would still be arguing the fallacies of Sanders at me ignoring what I said, and not allowing threads to exist that disagree with his views. That is thought police, and this obviously is not that.



Takes a really warped mind to think Yoda of all people would want to create a safe space for liberals. Especially considering, ya know, he's debated liberal principles he disagrees with more than anyone else on the forum.



‘He got up there and lied his a– off': Carrier union leader on Trump’s big deal


President-elect Donald Trump reacts after speaking at Carrier Corp. last week in Indianapolis.

The Secret Service agents told the Carrier workers to stay put, so Chuck Jones sat in the factory conference room for nearly three hours, waiting for president-elect Donald Trump. He’d grown used to this suspense.

Seven months earlier, at a campaign rally in Indianapolis, Trump had pledged to save the plant’s jobs, most of which were slated to move to Mexico. Then the businessman won the election, and the 1,350 workers whose paychecks were on the line wondered if he’d keep his promise.

Jones, president of the United Steelworkers 1999, which represents Carrier employees, felt optimistic when Trump announced last week that he’d reached a deal with the factory’s parent company, United Technologies, to preserve 1,100 of the Indianapolis jobs — u ntil the union leader heard from Carrier that only 730 of the production jobs would stay and 550 of his members would lose their livelihoods, after all.

At the Dec. 1 meeting, where Trump was supposed to lay out the details, Jones hoped he would explain himself.

“But he got up there,” Jones said Tuesday, “and, for whatever reason, lied his a-- off.”

In front of a crowd of about 150 supervisors, production workers and reporters, Trump praised Carrier and its parent company, United Technologies. "Now they’re keeping — actually the number’s over 1,100 people,” he said, “which is so great.”

Jones wondered why the president-elect appeared to be inflating the victory. Trump and Pence, he said, could take credit for rescuing 800 of the Carrier jobs, including non-union positions.

Of the nearly 1,400 workers at the Indianapolis plant, however, 350 in research and development were never scheduled to leave, Jones said. Another 80 jobs, which Trump seemed to include in his figure, were non-union clerical and supervisory positions. (A Carrier spokesperson confirmed the numbers.) And now the president-elect was applauding the company and giving it millions of dollars in tax breaks, even as hundreds of Indianapolis workers prepared to be laid off.

“Trump and Pence, they pulled a dog and pony show on the numbers,” said Jones, who voted for Hillary Clinton but called her "the better of two evils." “I almost threw up in my mouth.”

Spokespeople for Trump did not respond to the Post’s request for comment.

In exchange for downsizing its move south of the border, United Technologies would receive $7 million in tax credits from Indiana, to be paid in $700,000 installments each year for a decade. Carrier, meanwhile, agreed to invest $16 million in its Indiana operation. United Technologies still plans to send 700 factory jobs from Huntington, Ind, to Monterrey, Mexico.

T.J. Bray, 32, one of the workers who will keep his job, sat in the front row during the Dec. 1 meeting as Trump spoke. A corporate employee had guided him specifically to that seat, he said, so he suspected he might be part of Trump’s remarks.

On Carrier's makeshift stage, Trump paraphrased the words of an unnamed Carrier employee who talked to an NBC reporter after the election. Bray was the only Carrier employee who had appeared on television that day. Apparently, he realized, Trump was saying he inspired the deal.

“He said something to the effect, ‘No, we’re not leaving, because Donald Trump promised us that we’re not leaving,’ and I never thought I made that promise,” Trump said. “Not with Carrier. I made it for everybody else. I didn’t make it really for Carrier.”

In fact, Trump did make that commitment, and it's on video. "They're going to call me and they are going to say 'Mr. President, Carrier has decided to stay in Indiana,'” Trump had said at the April rally. "One hundred percent -- that's what is going to happen."

Last week, though, the president-elect told the Carrier crowd he hadn't meant that literally.

“I was talking about Carrier like all other companies from here on in," Trump said. "Because they made the decision a year and a half ago. But he believed that was — and I could understand it. I actually said — I didn’t make it — when they played that, I said, 'I did make it, but I didn’t mean it quite that way.'”

Trump asked if the employee he’d been referencing was in the audience. A woman yelled that her son was, and Trump began to compliment that son, though he hadn't spoken in the television news segment. (Bray said that a United Technologies spokesperson later told him Trump meant to single him out.)

“I was confused when he was like, ‘I wasn’t talking about Carrier,’” Bray said. “You made this whole campaign about Carrier, and we're still losing a lot of jobs.”

Bray clapped that day, anyway, for the 800 that would remain on American soil.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...QLA?li=BBnb7Kz



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"a safe space for liberals"

huh? the Trump supporters on the forum have their own thread for 'light-hearted' Trump stuff, specifically so they wouldn't have to hear or see anything negative about Trump, but we're the ones asking for a safe space?

delusional...
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