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In the meantime, the reasoning behind our nominations can be varied - and that's what creates such an interesting mix of films every time around. If they were just filled with well-known classics every time, I wouldn't like Hall of Fames as much. But I always base my voting on the films themselves. The reasons behind each nomination shouldn't really play any part. You might just like to see how one of your lesser-known but interesting films will fare, or go for the win with a well-liked classic - after all, there are many Olympians in an event that have no chance of winning, but compete to see how they go. Diversity is best - and in my whole time participating in these things, I've never seen a nomination that's just been made in bad faith.
Well said. As for the bolded, I think whoever picked My Dog Skip did it out of spite for all the controversial picks that people were making for a while. That's about it.



Let the night air cool you off
Is there a balance between weird and unwatchable?
I think that participating in a game where other people choose which films you watch comes with the risk of having to watch something you think is "unwatchable." So for me, I'm not worried about said balance. If I nominate something, you can be assured that I think it is worthy of being in a film hall of fame. You may think it's a stinky pile of shite, but I don't. I assume that goes for everyone who participates, so if I hate a film someone nominates, I just chalk it up as difference in tastes and don't complain about it.



Shoplifters



I first watched this movie 3 years ago when it was chosen for me in a personal Recommendation HoF, which by the way will be coming back once the NBA season finishes up.

I feel the opposite of Siddon in that I think something like this is an excellent HoF choice. I was not as into the drama this time around but I was more into the characters. They remind me of addicts, except their addiction is bad choices. Of course shoplifting, although it can be understandable, is not a victimless crime and the father figure would eventually cross the line. I still found them to be sympathetic and likable, obviously having been dealt a bad hand in life. I found the way they lived and what they did to survive believable. The drama of how the "family" came to be is interesting and well done. Glad to have watched it again.




Personal Recommendation HoF... will be coming back once the NBA season finishes up.
Hell yeah!

I watched Shoplifters in a PR HoF too and thought it was pretty great. It's the type of film you can just spend time with as it's not pushing all of your buttons but allows you to soak it in and just see what this 'families' like is like.



I also watched Shoplifters in a PRHoF, the foreign language one. I really liked it but I also had to watch some real heavy hitting films in that HoF so it's placement on my final ballot may have made it look like I didn't care for it but nothing could be further from the truth. I usually don't like re-watches in HoF's but this is one I won't mind at all.



Who's going to help a poor MoFo out? I need me 'free' links for all these noms, preferably with English subs.

Aftersun (Charlotte Wells 2022)
Beau Travail (1999)
L'humanité 'Humanity' (Bruno Dumont 1999)
Macbeth (Roman Polanski 1971)
A Man For All Seasons (Fred Zinnemann 1966)
Mona Lisa (Neil Jordan 1986)
Shoplifters (Kore-eda Hirokazu 2018)
There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson 2007)
The Bank Job (Roger Donaldson 2008)



Who's going to help a poor MoFo out? I need me 'free' links for all these noms, preferably with English subs.

Aftersun (Charlotte Wells 2022)
Beau Travail (1999)
L'humanité 'Humanity' (Bruno Dumont 1999)
Macbeth (Roman Polanski 1971)
A Man For All Seasons (Fred Zinnemann 1966)
Mona Lisa (Neil Jordan 1986)
Shoplifters (Kore-eda Hirokazu 2018)
There Will Be Blood (Paul Thomas Anderson 2007)
The Bank Job (Roger Donaldson 2008)
Half asleep but I know Shoplifters and The Bank Job are on Tubi



L'humanité 'Humanity'

(1999, Dumont)

In a quiet little French town a rape and murder of a young girl calls Pharaon into it's investigation. If Pharaon seems a little out of it, well, it's because he is due to some unfortunate events in his recent past. He spends time with a girl down the street and her boyfriend on their trips together out and on the town. It seems like something to do, but again there is an investigation to be attended to.

This one has all the makings of being a straight point A to B story. It shows us the very simplistic lives of these small town inhabitants where daily events play out as things normally do. But as the simple story moves along in a almost dialogue light pretty image trip, little actions by the main character started to grab my attention as opposite of the simple structure throughout the story. We are made aware of a tragedy in the main characters history which as his story and investigation comes to a finale. When the credits rolled I was left wondering what exactly happened to our main character and his family. I normally go for this as long as it doesn't become overbooked. I dunno, maybe Im on drugs and overthinking a simple thing. Have a feeling this will divide this group.



Shoplifters.

This is one of the films that elevated my interest in modern Japanese cinema and particularly Koreeda. I'd only seen his film 'Like Father, Like Son' before this one. After it, I watched 4 or 5 of his movies in a month or 2. It is heart rendering family drama at it's best. My review on release:

Hirokazu Koreeda is a master of cinema.

I'm still digesting this movie but I'm pretty sure it's one of the best of 2018. It is an absolute gem. A superb tale of love, kinship and what it means to be family. Morals are queried, and formalities are tested. Lily Franky, Sakura Andô and those 2 children are impeccable. The dialogue and characters are perfect.

Beautiful, beautiful cinema.

A truly great nomination. And his new film 'Monster' is one of his best too. Go and check it out.



Speaking of mellodrama....


No I'm not saying this was picked in bad faith, but this movie is really weird. This film starts like Lil Abner and then becomes The Last Picture Show and switches on a dime. I don't really see the appeal in suggesting a film like this but I'm curous about the reasoning
Someone's literally nominated a Jason Statham action film in a Hall of Fame noms! An Anthony Mann drama from the 1950s really isn't a weird choice considering.



Someone's literally nominated a Jason Statham action film in a Hall of Fame noms! An Anthony Mann drama from the 1950s really isn't a weird choice considering.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1189844-the_bank_job
80% on RT
69% Metacritic
7.2 IMDB

God's Little Acre
42% RT
6.5 IMDB

As I said before this isn't like one of those nominations with naked kids, or something like Themroc which is questionably bad. I was curious because the film was weird and average. The thing about the film is that it's not really a drama...or a western...or a comedy...or a romance it just kept switching genres to the point where it was almost unrecognizable. If you were going to nominate a melodrama from the 50's/40's you had a lot of great options. Kings Row, Peyton Place, Bigger Than Life, All That Heaven allows etc. etc. I was more curious about the choice because having to review the films...what can really be discussed about the film.

Now as for the Statham nomination...he's not Steven Segal or Jean Claude Van Damn or Chuck Norris. Statham has a solid top ten films and Roger Donaldson though inconsistent has made some top tier pictures. Now is it s a choice to go with The Bank Job over No Way Out one of the great neo-noirs...it's a choice but I can understand and see the reasoning. You are picking between a good film and a masterpiece versus an experimental melodrama during the heyday of melodramas.





The Treasure of Sierra Madre (1948)

A number of filmmakers who had success in the 30's/40's work hasn't really aged well. When you come across a filmmaker whose work holds up well it seems like it's a good idea to work through his body of work. So I guess after Maltese Falcon the next film up would be Treasure of Sierra Madre. I was actually thinking about nominated Heaven Knows Mr Allison a film that I think is underseen...but I'll hold off because I think someone is going to pick African Queen next.

Bogart and Huston come back together in this one, with Boggie now in the role that the other characters in Maltese were. The characer and performance in this film is so great. We're basically following a guy who isn't smart, isn't noble, isn't really that bad and we are watching him descend over the course of the film. Walter Huston plays an old timey prospector and he's fantastic in this. He got his career ending Oscar with this performance and you get it. The charisma and energy he brings to the roll in unmatched. Tim Holt plays the third man in the group...in a lesser film he would be the lead but here's he the more compass less is more.

The only quibbles I would have with the film is that visually it's not on the level of a classic. The bandits are a little campy and feel like they are wearing costumes and playing to stereotypes. I do wish the final act had a bit more restraint because it gets a little over the top. But still amazing film, fun watch.

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https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1189844-the_bank_job
80% on RT
69% Metacritic
7.2 IMDB

God's Little Acre
42% RT
6.5 IMDB

As I said before this isn't like one of those nominations with naked kids, or something like Themroc which is questionably bad. I was curious because the film was weird and average. The thing about the film is that it's not really a drama...or a western...or a comedy...or a romance it just kept switching genres to the point where it was almost unrecognizable. If you were going to nominate a melodrama from the 50's/40's you had a lot of great options. Kings Row, Peyton Place, Bigger Than Life, All That Heaven allows etc. etc. I was more curious about the choice because having to review the films...what can really be discussed about the film.

Now as for the Statham nomination...he's not Steven Segal or Jean Claude Van Damn or Chuck Norris. Statham has a solid top ten films and Roger Donaldson though inconsistent has made some top tier pictures. Now is it s a choice to go with The Bank Job over No Way Out one of the great neo-noirs...it's a choice but I can understand and see the reasoning. You are picking between a good film and a masterpiece versus an experimental melodrama during the heyday of melodramas.
Why have you quoted ratings sites? Hall of Fame nominations aren't popularity contests, or we'd just have 12 Nolan films / Villeneuve films and The Shawshank Redemption in every time. The idea is to weeedle out good films, not popular films.

I'll watch the Bank Job because someone considers it worthy. Just as I'll watch God's Little acre.

Every one of these nominations means something to the person who nominated it. Questioning why they've been nominated is poor form.




Every one of these nominations means something to the person who nominated it. Questioning why they've been nominated is poor form.

And I wanted to know why...out of curiosity you people are acting like it was an accusation. When someone picks something unusual...and God's Little Acre is unusual I just wanted to know why.

I don't think asking why someone selected a film is worth making a fuss about. I would remind you I picked films that have come last before..I chose My Dog Skip. The film came in last place, but I saw a lot of merit in the film...the idea of the unreliable narrator in a children's film was a topic that I thought was interesting. A selected To Live and Die in LA another film that came in last place I selected that film as a neo-noir mid budget film that illustrated the effectiveness of a pulpy story and a quality car chase...that Hollywood doesn't do anymore. And one of my first selections was Mr Freedom...one of the first super hero films that was also a black satire and indictment on the Vietnam war.

But once again...I was curious about the reasoning that's all.



And I wanted to know why...out of curiosity you people are acting like it was an accusation. When someone picks something unusual...and God's Little Acre is unusual I just wanted to know why.

I don't think asking why someone selected a film is worth making a fuss about. .
Err okay. I expect the answer will be the same answer that anyone in the HoF will give for choosing what they chose.



The Bank Job (2008)




A Statham movie in a Hall of Fame? Whoever nominated this should probably be banned from all future HoF's, don't ya think? I mean what are we even doing here?

Anyway, a woman, Martine (Saffron Burrows) gets busted trying to bring some cocaine into England. Was she set-up? Hmmm, maybe but who cares. It doesn't matter. Knowing her background, the authorities offer her a chance for immunity. See there's this guy that they've been wanting to nab, a kind of revolutionary figure whose been a bit of a thorn in the side of the government. The police (MI5 or 6?) believe he has some rather embarrassing photos of a member of the royal family stashed in a safe deposit box that he will release to the public should anything happen to him. As long as he has them photo's he's untouchable. Martine is tasked with getting together a crew and getting those photographs. She goes to an ex, Statham, who has a history of small time crimes but nothing like this. He's a family man now but things are getting tight for him so he agrees to do it. He recruits his team and they rob the bank's safety deposit boxes and kick one hell of a hornets nest in the process. Seems a lot of people keep a lot of VERY private shit in them little boxes. Things that could ruin lives. They piss off everybody - from high up government officials to a local porn producer - and they want their scalps!

I really liked this one. There isn't anything deep going on here. It's not a masterpiece by any stretch. It's simply entertainment, done well. If you're expecting high octane action this isn't that movie. It's not Crank but what it does have in common with that film is it has absolutely no chance of winning one of these HoF's. But I've watched worse.



And I wanted to know why...out of curiosity you people are acting like it was an accusation. When someone picks something unusual...and God's Little Acre is unusual I just wanted to know why.
Probably because you said you could judge the motivations of the person who nominated God's Little Acre.
God's Little Acre (1958)
I mean part me has no clue why this film was nominated and another part of me well can kinda figure it out...

I'm really curious about the motivations of the person who nominated this because I'm sure how to judge it.
So please go ahead and judge.....feel free to tell us what my real motivations were for choosing God's Little Acres.



Probably because you said you could judge the motivations of the person who nominated God's Little Acre.
So please go ahead and judge.....feel free to tell us what my real motivations were for choosing God's Little Acres.

Well I don't know what you can discuss when you nominated a film like this. A big part of this competition/project is discussion and when you put out a film like God's Little Acre what are you leaving for discussion other than the tonal/genre changes in the film.



I think some people really need to be more open minded towards weird/unconventional nominations and to not assume the worst intentions possible of those who nominated them. The level of drama/dogpiling over some of the prior HoFs were beyond tiring to read through and why I withdrew from participating in them.