How soon will most movies/series be computer generated?

Sora (text to video AI) is getting a lot of press lately. Many movies today already consist of actors putting on costumes and standing in front of blue screens. CGI is creating jaw dropping images. In other words fake video capacity has been around for awhile.

But with Sora, and programs that will compete with it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sora_(text-to-video_model), there will be no need for actors, cameramen, and other production personnel.

We're already seeing studio moguls like Tyler Perry cancel studio expansion because of this new AI capability:
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...ew-sora-model/

I suppose there will be new artificial movie stars as well. Movie or series production will be far cheaper. But will audiences learn to love it???

It will be interesting. Such tech might also spawn it's own opposition, sorta like people who like music from records and turntables and reject digital music.

Most? A very long time, if ever. Tougher question is when a single show, mostly heralded as good, or pretty good, will be created by one.

I'm still waiting for that future we were promised, 15-20 years ago, of roads populated by driverless cars. They got a lot further than I would have guessed back then, but a number of the things that one would think of would give them problems are indeed still problems.


So that example keeps coming to mind when we talk about the acceleration of AI-generated art. One of the big problems it runs into is that currently everything it generates feels bland (or insane, which is probably more likely to generate something to be praised than something bland). Another issue seems to be hands.


Can AI develop to overcome these issues? Conceivably. The issue of blandness seems like something that it might not overcome (granted, it's not like studios churn out lots of formulaic movies, and there's also a lot of cash-grab knock-offs. So there might be a market for those). In terms of specific parts of a movie, with all the talk of AI-generated scripts, I suspect the first viable use (and what I think the guilds were pushing back on during the strike) would be generating a script through AI and then getting a human to go back and punch it up, probably both dialogue and plot, somewhat akin to how Hollywood already runs a script through a lot of different writers. Maybe something good will be created by that, but I'm having a hard time imagining feeling good about it (and practically speaking, with certain genres, it'll be hard for the audience to connect with an emotion being presented on screen when the audience knows what created that presentation doesn't have any emotions).


I'm currently having a hard time imagining the visual equivalent of someone going in to correct visual part of AI generated movies and it being practical labor-wise like it could conceivably be with scripts. There is already a lot of hand editing done on the special effects of movies, but my understanding is that it's a very labor/time intensive, expensive part of the process (or at least it used to be).



Now, porn on the other hand... I foresee an abundance of AI-generated porn 10-15 years from now. Just to fill in the niche of all the weird, kinky shit that people can't currently get.

Agree on basically all counts.

What people don't seem to fully appreciate is that what AI is doing well is aggregating existing content. It achieves what it does by processing things en masse. I suppose some form of accidental creativity can take place through sheer combinatorics, or whatever, but that's not really the same.

It's the same thing with Chat-GPT: the degree to which it can impersonate us is a direct product of how deliberately bland we make ourselves. If a Chat-GPT response is indistinguishable from a human email, it's because the way people communicate in emails has been sanded down into something resembling boilerplate.

All this stuff has its use, but it's kind of a more flexible version of those "here's what it looks like when we average all these human faces together" portraits.

I've used Chat-GPT because I was curious about it, and another issue with it is that it provides pretty surface level responses. If you want to dig deeper, again, it will answer your direct question. However, because it aggregates existing content information, as Yoda has outlined, the depth of analysis is not, to me, at the level as what I would be able to provide on my own. I can see it being useful for research purposes, or to grind out tasks that are pretty formulaic, and which might not differ all that much in their essential terms, such as the drafting of contracts. But, for things that require judgment, making connections, the evaluation of the information to produce options for decision making or the evaluation of what strategy might produce the best result. I think it has a long way to go. Making movie or TV content is partly formulaic, but partly creative, and not just the result of aggregation of existing data or content. It has to go far beyond evoking a surface level emotion or feeling, or character, or plot device to a holistic product that is greater than the sum of its parts. Chat-GPT, the best representation of AI that we currently have, hasn't shown the capacity to do that yet.

Also, Chat-GPT, at least when I used it, was accurate as of a certain point in the past, but couldn't produce answers to questions past that date, so it wasn't always current information. I think there's a lot of complexity to producing media, movies or TV shows, from AI that still has yet to be figured out. So, although I think it will eventually happen, it may not be as ubiquitous as we are contemplating it might be now. I think humans will still be needed for quite a long time, and that this transition will likely happen gradually, rather than all at once. I also agree there may be backlash to AI generated content, but how widespread that may be, and how it might be a disincentive to the bottom line of how much this content could generate, which might influence studios to use it less to produce content, is an unknown. I suspect the backlash may also lessen over time as more of us settle into what becomes a new normal.

Top to bottom, inside out? 2045

The caveat is that they must be Oscar worthy in order to qualify as "making it"

Until then, AI will slowly consume the movie making process, putting folks out of work and reducing the human role in their own celebration of themselves.

This same parallel will be found in all industries.

Each generation of AI is multiple factors ahead of the previous version, much like the doubling of PC powers: 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, etcetera....

The better question is, how quickly the average audience member will accept and even enjoy this computer generated swill they are eventually going to be served up?


I'd say, almost immediately.


And then everyone else who doesn't have a garbage dump in their head, will have to listen to how irrelevant it's always been to have actual humans make things.

AI created movies will happen. Probably at first with some human input such as human written scripts. People all ready watch mindless, fakey superhero movies, and those movies make bucks. It's all about the money and if cost can be cut profits then can be raised.

For a generation now, people have been growing up on playing computer generated games, readily accepting as real & entertaining characters who aren't human.

Will AI movies replace human created movies? Who knows, AI movies might end up a mere fad like the 3D movies of the early-mid 1950s. Back then some believed all movies would be 3D but the fad didn't even last into the 60s. We've even had a revival of 3D technology and still 3D movies aren't that numerous.

Even if AI movies do become the norm someday, there will always be a market for people powered films. It doesn't cost alot to make a film with an inexpensive digital camera and unknown actors, shooting in someone's house and in a nearby park. Me, I don't think I could stomach watching an AI created film, except maybe once for informative reasons.

You've touched upon a good part of the reason that I felt compelled to start a thread. We're in the era of fake.

It's alarming to contemplate the large spectrum of "fake" in evidence today. Green screen and OSVP movies are just an obvious example. Much of the "news" is fake. The younger set spends their whole day staring at fake reality on their iPhones, eschewing personal contact. "Science" has lied to us so often and faked us on such a grand scale that I no longer believe a thing they say until I've thoroughly researched it. We get phone calls and messages from fake people.

So considering the new fascination with AI, and its ubiquitous implementation, it boggles the mind to imagine where all this is going. But it can't be good. And it appears to be picking up speed.

We get fake everything because people like it that way. Not everyone of course but more than enough that fake sells. People today are more connected and have more access to information than ever before and yet they're also more isolated and involved in their own 'little worlds' of fakeness than ever before in history.

Like ActIII said AI is growing exponentially. The advances in AI in just one year might equal what was done with AI in the last 5 years. Just think how many people daily 'talk' to Alexa. Everytime I go to Lowes hardware store I see tons of Google devices that you can put around your home so it can be automated by voice...Yeah people by and far want AI in their lives...but not me.

I can't wait for Sora. I upload AI pictures to Adobe Stock, but haven't found any software that creates short videos well. Hopefully it will be a game-changer.

I read that Apple Music and Spotify are already in a race to produce the first commercially successful AI pop star.
I certainly expect that by the time I sign off a lot if not most major studio productions will be AI generated and there will be major AI movie stars.

Honestly, if you give me Jodorowsky's Tron the way the AI made it look, you can have all my money and I will fully support our new Overlords.