Lord of the Rings: Return of the King

I don't think you know what you are talking about.

But to each his own...

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How can you all watch dribble, fantasy is the lowest form of film and/or book. Anyone can do a fantasy movie/book, you ask your 6-month old to think up some names, then you draw random creatures or my favorite the elf, humans with pointy ears. You have to be serious, no one with self respect can enjoy this crap

You know… I love The Lord of the Rings and I have a lot of respect for myself... I also respect the fact that some people don‘t like it… what I don’t have any respect for though are the people who can’t state their opinions without turning them into personal attacks… learn some manners.

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Ignorance speaks. Tolkien was a philologist, which means many of the people and places in The Lord of the Rings have highly appropriate names, linguistically. Sounds like that insult, rather than the character names, was what came from a 6-month old. What's more, fair amounts of the story of Middle Earth (including its origins) allude to Biblical tales. Tolkien was meticulous and deliberate...virtually nothing in these stories is off the cuff.

"You know how to read, you ignorant f*ck?"

This is possibly the silliest thing I've ever read.

Grow up.

[quote=Yoda]Ignorance speaks. Tolkien was a philologist, which means many of the people and places in The Lord of the Rings have highly appropriate names, linguistically. Sounds like that insult, rather than the character names, was what came from a 6-month old. What's more, fair amounts of the story of Middle Earth (including its origins) allude to Biblical tales. Tolkien was meticulous and deliberate...virtually nothing in these stories is off the cuff.

As far as this and the Matirx being about religion it greatly shows, religion is almost as much of a bull**** lie as these special effect ridden pieces of crap. What next? Neo going to use the Ark to pick up his friends and go kick some ass with some over-used special effects. Or is the ring bearer going to be attacked by lotus. I can almost bet on my life that everyone who enjoys this film is either a 12 yr old without any balls to see a well-done film or a 40 yrs living in his parents basement I can not begin to imagine that the CEO of Ford or a Computer Specialist for Nasa would enjoy such rubish. For shame.

Not only is this needlessly rude and narrow minded, but it has no basis.

Why do you feel the need to insult not only these movies, but the people who watch them? Is your self respect and esteem so low that you do this out of need?

You don't like fantasy. That's perfectly fine. Other people do though. There's no reason you should be so rude about it.

You know, MMoorefan, I consider myself well read, articulate and patient. I do not rub elbows with the CEO of Ford, nor do I have dinner with Computer Specialists from NASA. However, if either of these people engaged me in conversation with regards to movies or books, I would hope that said conversation would be interesting. Unlike your pithy comments which were written to enflame our sensibilities, I enjoy listening to other points of view, when they are presented in a civilized manner. Please, get yourself to your local library and pick up a book on grammar. And then use it. It seems that you are spoiling for a fight. Not going to happen my friend. No shame on us.

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Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons.....for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.

I think you mean "locusts," which is pretty damn funny considering that you just claimed you could write a novel comparable to LOTR. I guess your statement is contingent on today's advanced spell-checking technology, eh? Ironically, though, it wouldn't pick up "lotus," which is also a word...


Given the number of ticket sales and the consensus of film critics, it's almost impossible for this statement to be true.

I’ll be sure to tell a friend of mine, who loves both movies, your thoughts on who likes them… depending on his mood, the next time he's playing around with one of the satellites he programs he might call you up to make sure you say “cheese” …

The only crap I’ve seen is what you’ve written....

First off...a 6-month old can’t even talk yet....so stop it with your pretentiousness and smarmy replies. If you were as smart as you’re trying to act, you wouldn’t have used that as an example. So chill out and get a pair of britches that are more suitable for your size.

Second...as a 42 yr old parent....I’ve enjoyed the LOTR’s series immensely. I can’t wait for "Return of the Kings" to come out.

Just because you don’t care for fantasy movies doesn’t mean they’re bad. Everyone has different tastes and if you think everyone should bow down to only your taste, what a dull world his would be.

If a particular genre was not to my fancy I would not reply to a thread concerning solely said genre unless I had valuable reasoning behind my dislike that did not follow in the, 'it sucks' vain. That is purely juvenile or petulant at best.

I've tried writing fantasy and it is harder then people think it is. There are no set guidelines, no pre-ordained facts to merely look up. It requires the writer to create a reasonable fantasy factuality of a lifestyle, of civilations, and to stick with whatever rules they have perpetrated into their plots.

Following Yoda's vein I would add that Tolkien was a master of literature, not a scribble a page man. There is no way he could have come up with LOTR without educating himself and researching thoroughly of his chosen subject matter before even contemplating writing his epic novel. Tolkien even created his very own language with linguistic parameters. LOTR is no light-weight unthought, unplanned dabble.

Oh and I'm twenty-three years old. Not Twelve not Forty but Twenty-three.

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I don't even know how to respond to that freak.

The LOTR trilogy is not on my list of top books, but it is one of the best, if not the best, story I've ever heard. The reason it is not on the book list is because Tolkein could be a little verbose.

Oh look it has dragons and elves and orcs it must be rubbish. Come on. This is a very meaningful piece of literature. Do you know why Sauron and Saruman were portrayed as people who would sacrifice the environment for more power, efficiency, or whatever? Tolkein witnessed his home town get polluted by industry and he didn't like it.

Then there is the ring, do you know when Tolkein started working on this book, started forming the ideas? When he was fighting in World War II? Do you remember what happened in World War II? The world entered the nuclear age. Now what do you think the ring represents?

If you had ultimate power would you be brave enough to cast it away and destroy it?

The Lord of the Rings is not about elves, orcs, and dwarves. It is about people, it is about sacrifice, it is about friendship, it is about pity, it is about justice. It is an epic like no other.

I feel sorry for you that you can't see that.

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Oh ya... Fantasy is definitely not easy to write.

Normal fiction doesn't require having to make up a world and everything to go along with it. Now some people, like Robert Jordan, aren't very original and just recycle real world cultures (oh look its the people with the feudal Japanese culture, oh look its the Indian looking people who dress like Edwardian brits), but that doesn't mean all Fantasy is like that. And even Robert Jordan has to think up more than the typical realistic fiction author.

I just read in Rolling Stone that this movie is going to have a sex scene! "Viggo Mortensen's Aragorn gets it on with elf girl Liv Tyler"

Does anyone have any feelings or info on this? I'm not too happy about it.....

According to the book, the story of Aragorn and Arwen is a beautiful one. They were truly in love and blessed. If there is a love scene, I would hope it would be done tastefully and with the book in mind, not just for the sake of throwing a little sex our way. If done right, I think it would be a great addition to the movie.

True....I can only hope.....

I want to have Peter Jackson's children.

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[quote=MMooreFan]Fantasy takes alot more then thinking up cool names and drawing pretty pictures. It requires skill and effective writing skills. For one I don't think the books would have been half as successful if they didn't include orcs, elfs, hobbits etc.

In my humble opinion, I think it would be harder to write a fantasy novel then to right a novel based on World War I or Medieval Times because you can research them throughly and have all the facts so that you can include them into your book..

For Tolkein to write a fantasy book he had to create a story plot, create characters, and create his own world known as Middle Earth. What he did was like what the evangelists did when they wrote the gospels. He focused on a main character and followed him through to the end to right an superb novel.

Do you really think that if the pictures and ideas came from a 6 month old, that it would stay on the top 10 book list for so long?

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