Should Marijuana Be Legalized Or Not??

Oh no no no no no. I'm not an anarchist. Heh. Government is a necesary evil always, but I just feel that they should not be able to make personal decisions.


I have met anarchists. They aren't pretty.

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Thanks... Why?

aspen's post lays it all out, ladies & gentlemen.

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I am with Henry on this I to think all drugs should be allowed because this drug war is a losing one if someone wants to use drugs they are going to use them.(I my self don't use drugs)However,so they don't hurt anyone else it should be kept in conceled area that is setup by the government and keep them in there until the effect wares off.

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I voted no, they wouldnt of made it illegal without a reason and although that isnt the complete, long winded or REAL explaination for my decision, its a reason still.

I just love you, Naisy. You are so without gusto, but so with cause. Hip, hip hooray.

The only reason i cant discuss it as fully as i would like is because doing so, may or may not lead to my sacking in life

Oh, I see, so you're a potato.

Erm, they exist already Sutte. they're called prisons (and the affect never wears off - coz they get more in and they don't forget what prison taught them i.e. how to be a btter criminal )

if the drug barons didn't have that trade they'd just move into something else. That's the type of ruthless people they are. This is just one more prob in wholesale legalising.

If we could put the money into rehabilitation progs etc that would be something (tho you always have to find caring people like Nebbit to do the hard bit of course Good on your Neb! I've dealt with crotchety drugged-up old people, but the best they could do was try and scratch your eyes out with a long toe-nail on their good leg. Not so scary, just more pitiful. )

Soz Henry, didn't quite mean to call you an anarchist (i've known a few too, even some pretty ones But total anarchists never have a substitute plan of any sort for what they want to smash, as you're saying (i guess).

Even silly semi-anarchist groups (i.e non skull-smash-to-get-attention ones) like the socialist worker party over here don't give it much thought. (i signed up to the SW youth [i think] once, just to get passed them and into work. It was endless fun winding them up when they came knocking. You just ask them "and then what?" until they turn into irritable children, stamp their foot and move on.

Dammit, i'm going to do a yoda and ask: Where do you draw the line with "personal decisions"? I know what you mean and that, but when the personal decisions are destructive to society or people nearby, then we've got to step in surely? As in, people as a whole agreeing with the law etc (and we can affect things a bit, via civil rights groups etc and any other influential pressure group interested in the issue. So long as people feel the laws affect them [but not overly harshly! i.e. racially-motivated arrests etc] people'll kick up a fuss if the law gets out of hand on a big issue, but also put up with certain restrictions). It's certain rich people who think they're outside the law that cause the most damage in my opinion. A smacked-up guy ****ing others over for a fix just doesn't have that much influence )

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Thanks for that, but I am just an ordinary person doing my job.

I have worked with the children of drug addicted parents, one boy told me that his father used to make him heat a fix of Heroin for him, telling him that he has to learn, because he will be a using one day.

A Ten year old boy begged me to help him get away from his drug addicted mother, he said that He loved her but couldn't stand being dragged all over the place day and night for her to get drugs. I did help him, His Grandparents were made his legal guardians and he grew into a lovely young man. Also His mother died of an overdose when he was 13, at the funeral he said to me "She is at peace now". He was a very wise boy who had seen to much for his age.

If drugs only affected the people who took them then it would be great but they don't. I have many more stories like this.

Say NO to legalisation.

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You have plenty of stories now that it is illegal. Maybe prohibition isn't working, then?

I have just as many relating to Alcohol, so legalisation doesn't work either.

Legalization of alcohol works better than prohibition of acohol. If I wasn't so tired, I'd go deeper in this subject.

I really respect the work you do, though. Addicts and their family's are not easy to deal with. A bleak perspective on life, it would likely give me.

Thank God it hasn't, Yes there are a lot of tragic stories, I have also met, and been able to help some really lovely people.

You mean herioin would stop killing people as soon it was legal? There is a big difference between alcohol and heroin, and between marijuana and heroin too.

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They had temporarily escaped the factories, the warehouses, the slaughterhouses, the car washes - they'd be back in captivity the next day but now they were out - they were wild with freedom. They weren't thinking about the slavery of poverty. Or the slavery of welfare and food stamps. The rest of us would be all right until the poor learned how to make atom bombs in their basements.

I never said that. You're putting words in my mouth.


But think. Is prohibition working currently? Don't answer me, just think about it.

Henry, where would you draw the line for "personal decisions". How anti-social do they have to become before society should step in?

You're right that the current systems aren't working that well - a legalised system with the money ploughed back in to help/rehabilitation-programs makes the most sense. But it would have to be very tightly regulated i think i.e. not over the counter by any means. i.e. no encouragement to those who don't use it [only proven addicts can buy????]

I've gone back and forth on government regulation. On the one hand, it seems like the most sensible alternative. On the other hand, I hate the FDA and think it should be disbanded immediately. If the government could come up with a better system than the corrupt FDA, I wouldn't mind them regulating. However, I hate the idea of private businesses advertising drugs. At this point in time, government regulation with education policies and rehab facilities makes the most sense.

You shouldn't even use the words marijuana and heroine in the same sentence. Do not confuse the two. Heroine is deadly and very very addictive.

When the Dutch legalized marijuana use of hard drugs (cocaine, heroine) actually declined (probably because marijuana users didn't have to get marijuana from drug dealers who were also selling coke and heroine). Something to think about.

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They are both deadly drugs marijuana is getting stronger and stronger, it causes brain damage! it causes family and community problems, there are many people in Jails due to M related crimes.

When I was in Amsterdam 2 years ago I thought it was the most depressing place in the world, men and women off there faces, urinating in the streets, begging for money etc. I was offered Heroine, E'ssss, Crack more than once in a day, I am not convinced that legalization is working there.

One guy sat outside of our hotel all day selling crack, for everyone he sold he would turn his head to the wall and have a hit himself, very sad.

Uh huh. But is it the state's responsibility to regulate what people do with their bodies? I don't see you arguing for an inspector to walk through restaurants to make sure patrons haven't eaten too many carbohydrates.